This $30 DSLR Takes Better Pictures Than Smartphone!

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Robin Wong

Robin Wong

Күн бұрын

The recent flagship smartphones are getting ridiculously expensive, with promise of better camera features and capabilities. For newcomers to photography I strongly believe there are better options out there to up your shooting game. There are plenty of older yet more capable dedicated camera systems that can do more than any smartphones and at the same time remain very affordable.
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0:00 Intro
0:24 Disclaimers
1:50 Images Reel 1
2:15 Real Bokeh
3:08 Responsiveness
4:45 Images Reel 2
4:50 Real Viewfinder
5:47 Handling
6:24 Images Reel 3
6:49 Change Lenses
7:39 Manual Controls
8:42 Images Reel 4
9:06 Natural Look
10:12 Shutter Sound
10:53 Not Against Smartphones
11:48 Conclusion/END
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@pratipkarmakar01
@pratipkarmakar01 Жыл бұрын
A picture from a proper camera always look real to life than any bullshit 1000 megapixel smartphone.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Pratip!
@AffordablePhotography
@AffordablePhotography Жыл бұрын
Robin, this is the best video I've seen on smart phone cameras vs real cameras. One additional advantage of a real camera you didn't mention is that the real camera you used has an incredible CCD sensor in it. The colors it produces are not only much better than those captured by a smart phone camera; but to my eye are even better than the colors produced by the current flagship mirrorless cameras (all of which have CMOS sensors).
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. To me it does not matter between CCD or CMOS, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. The point is real camera is still superior when it comes to photography growth, and can cost less than crazy expensive smartphones!
@scrptwic
@scrptwic Жыл бұрын
Love my CCD sensor cameras I have two one from2005 a Pentax *istDL and a Pentax K100D from 2006 and both work flawlessly and use rechargeable AA batteries. The best part is Pentax legacy lenses are cheap and work great n the camera as it gives me focus confirmation when the camera is I focus.
@jamesmlodynia8757
@jamesmlodynia8757 Жыл бұрын
I have some older Pentax cameras with CCD Sensors, the colors are great but the ISO settings were much like film on my K100D super and k10D ,TOPS 1600.
@thefreefilmschool7709
@thefreefilmschool7709 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Older Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Minolta Digital cameras I’ve picked up for as low as $3 point & shoot, 35mm Film, and DSLRs for $19, a Nikon D50. All great choices. With CCD Sensors & Real Camera feel, I buying all the cameras I couldn’t afford when younger. My favorite places to pick them up Mercari, MPB, KEH, last in the cheapest deals Ebay
@lucapasqualedapollo6120
@lucapasqualedapollo6120 Жыл бұрын
All true! God save DSLR
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
DSLR lives
@afifahmad832
@afifahmad832 Жыл бұрын
And with dslr or mirrorless, you look like a pro photographer
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats handling a real camera.
@jamesmlodynia8757
@jamesmlodynia8757 Жыл бұрын
One of the things photographers talk about is how their fits in hand,the grip, how the buttons and dials work, the tilting screens, resolution And view finder and so on, when i look at a cellphone, it looks like nothing, not a phone or camera or anything else. There is nothing in a phone camera that inspires me to drive hours to a location to photograph anything. I own cameras from Panasonic, Pentax , Olympus and Fujifilm, these cover full frame, APSC and 4/3's. Each camera has a unique personality and this makes photography much more interesting. These cameras have been with me to so many different environments allowing me to photograph weddings, baptisms, birthdays, travel, wildlife ,seascapes and landscapes, photos that i could not take or have the opportunity to take had a cellphone camera. If you want to get serious about photography get a real camera, not a phone with a camera function.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
I just got an advert in the middle of this video: "Introducing Google Pixel 7 Pro with macro focus!"🤣😅😂
@manuelricardoperezperez1843
@manuelricardoperezperez1843 Жыл бұрын
Excelente perfecto muy bien explicado felicitaciones venezolano en USA
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sophiiia218
@sophiiia218 Жыл бұрын
Robin, you are so right!!! I LOVE all your Videos 🥰 So natural and so true.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sophiiia, appreciate that!
@evgenipoptoshev4112
@evgenipoptoshev4112 11 ай бұрын
Great video Robin! D50 was my first DSLR, and my first serious digital body I bought back in 2005. Completely agree with everything you say in the video. I'd still chose it over my S22 smart phone for photography any day.
@kartoffelstranger9187
@kartoffelstranger9187 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and the message
@acrummey85
@acrummey85 Жыл бұрын
Spot on, as usual, keep it up.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ira
@dougcooper4917
@dougcooper4917 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, and Great Information. Thank You Robin.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug!
@mikephillips7500
@mikephillips7500 Жыл бұрын
Robin, I love to watch your content. You always create a good mood and your contant is well done. Keep going on! The colors of your photos are very nice. Do they come straight out of the camera? Greetings from Germany, Mike
@irresponsiblepictures7451
@irresponsiblepictures7451 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, Robin! Always makes me smile with your energy. You inspired me to try one (made a video with a mention of you) got mine for 22 pounds!
@DamianKleiman
@DamianKleiman Жыл бұрын
I still use a Canon 30D from 2006. Old cameras can produce great images.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Canon 30D is fantastic!
@DamianKleiman
@DamianKleiman Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong it really is!
@FlappySock
@FlappySock Жыл бұрын
Bought a Nikon D700 earlier this year, still delivers top image quality 14 years later! Although it was 10x more expensive than the one in this video :D
@caltari
@caltari Жыл бұрын
I have a Nikon D850 and the Nikon D700. I'll never sell the Nikon D700; the image quality is awesome for a 12MP camera.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Hah, can't compare the D700, it is full frame after all, and built like a tank!
@fthprodphoto-video5357
@fthprodphoto-video5357 Жыл бұрын
The D700 has a cmos sensor which is great too but need more post production than the CCD sensors that nails all the tonal differences very well in the same shot. ( I have both)
@konradkoeppe2840
@konradkoeppe2840 Жыл бұрын
Robin, great video as always! Nikon has some great values on the used market. Plus they're free nx studio software that supports all their models. A great value for beginners and others on a budget.
@MarcusRow
@MarcusRow Жыл бұрын
Great video Robin! Had a Nikon D40 about 17 years ago, which produced some of my most loved shots ever, and could print A4 (or even A3 at a push) despite only having 6MP sensor.
@Alienform51
@Alienform51 Ай бұрын
Robin thanks for your amazing video! I picked up a D70, D50 and D200 after watching your videos. I love it! You have a new subscriber here forever
@TheRoadrunner11
@TheRoadrunner11 Жыл бұрын
One of the few photographers who never disappoints! thank you for making this video. You read my mind! I was annoyed at Tony Northrop's video 2 days ago, where he was saying that only expensive cameras can compete with smartphones, which is a peculiar statement to make. Not to mention his older click bait shameless video (in my opinion) trashing cameras against smartphones. I honestly don't know how he managed to pull images that bad from a real modern camera, must have been all shot on auto settings to make it fair to the phone. So it feels good to have someone make the same point I was thinking! any real camera will get you a vastly different feel from a smartphone! I have been a smartphone shooter all my life till a year ago. Finally owning real cameras has opened my eyes to the difference I always thought was there. Larger sensors and especially the lenses make all the difference in the world! Can you make amazing photos with a smartphone? sure. Can you make even more amazing photos of the same scene and subject with a real camera (if you know what you are doing, read previous sentence regarding auto settings)? absolutely. Btw, I don't have experience with super old and cheap DSLRs, but I did use my gfs Nikon APSC DSLR and it definitely is still a great camera even though it came out in 2010 or so and was a budget model back then. My own Lumix GX80 cost only 300 bucks used with 2 kit lenses, and I still use that ridiculously overpowered thing despite having bought a Sony A7M3 half a year ago. that's how good even old small sensor cameras really are. and I am still a learning hobbyist! imagine what a pro could do with these tools!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I do respect the Northrups and acknowledge some amazing content that they do, but I also find myself disagreeing with them from time to time. I guess, we are free to express our opinion, and what we say is all subjective any way! I won't go as far as to say what they claim is wrong, but I still think cameras are far superior as an imaging device.
@jamesmlodynia8757
@jamesmlodynia8757 Жыл бұрын
I can photograph a wedding with almost any camera I own, no one would have hired me to photograph an event if I only had a cellphone nor would I attempt to.
@gillescourtemanche8665
@gillescourtemanche8665 Жыл бұрын
Hi Robin,Yes I believe you,I bought myself a Nikon D200 for 100$/can in the box with all the original papers, 2 months ago, I always buy my cameras used because I dont have money for new one since I am on pension.
@nickramundi8378
@nickramundi8378 Жыл бұрын
I would also add the large print quality , i have owned a D50 and made prints up to A1 and the results where stunning.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
The viewfinder is a great aid to steadiness. With my trembly hands, I used to find it stressful if people asked me to take photos with a smartphone, especially before they had big shot image stabilisation, which they didn't have in the past. I would take half a dozen pictures and maybe one wasn't blurred! Holding a real camera against your face is a great way to stabilise it.
@patrickmcfadden1689
@patrickmcfadden1689 Жыл бұрын
Robin, Years ago I wanted a D40 or D50 but could not afford. Now, I have a little bit of everything from M43, APSc and Full Frame. My best purchase for about this price was a used EPL1. I have Nikon full frame and APSc as well as Sony APSC and Lumix M43. My favorite EDC cameras today are a used OM10Mii and an OM10Miiis both purchased from Pawn Shops for great deals. Always great videos, thanks.
@ezekielkok1848
@ezekielkok1848 Жыл бұрын
Hey Robin, I actually bought a d50 for my son to shoot (secretly for me too) coz of the ccd sensor. Threw on a 50mm and the total is less than 90sgd. Love it still despite its dslr size. The images out from that camera is still lovely. Thanks for sharing
@johnherzel718
@johnherzel718 Жыл бұрын
I have a Canon 5D classic. Still fun to use. And the colors are so good without much need for editing. Jpegs are so easy. The only negative is the CF card. And that's easy too.
@d3xmeister
@d3xmeister Жыл бұрын
Awesome video !!!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mihai!
@photobyTaps
@photobyTaps Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video! D50 accepts AFD lenses such as the fantastic 35-70mm. I'm getting the 18-200mm for mine as a do it all walk around rig. I recently shot over 2,000 pictures on Veterans Day. My friends are shocked that a camera older than KZbin performs so well
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Technically KZbin is older! KZbin was launched in 2005, and Nikon D50 in 2006, but man that was a great line. I may even use it.
@photobyTaps
@photobyTaps Жыл бұрын
How about older than IPhone? :-)
@JimRandolph
@JimRandolph Жыл бұрын
I love this, thanks! It makes me appreciate my 2 or 3 year old Nikon D3500 with its 35mm 1.8 (50mm equivalent) so much more. I was thinking I should upgrade but now I'm like, "Wow, this is still perfect for what I do." And your love of the "click" was delightful, thanks again.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Nikon D3500 is an excellent all around camera. Produces professional quality in a compact form factor!
@siddestroyer
@siddestroyer Жыл бұрын
Am 'stuck' with a D3200 since late 2013 lol. It kinda fulfills my needs for the most part
@siofna9709
@siofna9709 Жыл бұрын
I totaly agree with you. This year I bought two Nikon D50 with together four lenses. It is realy a great old beast and the 6MP are good enough in nearly all situations. The best arguments are viewfinder and manuel controls. Have a nice time :-).
@ridealongwithrandy
@ridealongwithrandy Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Robin, I still use my good ol Olympus E500 and love it. However, my good ol smart phone is always with me for emergencies. Cheers!
@ammadoux
@ammadoux Жыл бұрын
very true, all your points are excellent. not only old dslr, ever a desiccated compact camera like the Ricoh gr series give way better photography experience. agree 100% robin, thanks so much.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah for now, real camera still wins
@Apollolabsphoto
@Apollolabsphoto Жыл бұрын
This is so true. Currently teaching my fiancé with a £40 canon 350 and stock lens, she is already producing fantastic images compared to smart phone attempts. Already on aperture priority so they really allow you to learn
@wd5jlr
@wd5jlr Жыл бұрын
I have a D50. Bought it when it first came out. Still going strong.
@jacquesgiard6943
@jacquesgiard6943 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jacques! Appreciate that a lot
@matthewlove4876
@matthewlove4876 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the argument you give. The one thing a smartphone will always have over my lovely Nikon DSLR is ease of transportation. I don't need to carry around my camera bag to take photos when I travel. But I love my D90.
@WhoIsSerafin
@WhoIsSerafin Жыл бұрын
I hate cell phone cameras so much these videos make me happy!😂
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and glad you liked the video!
@3DOM65
@3DOM65 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video as many youtube talk about the newest camera,they forgot how many old camera outside,all my cameras are almost 10 years old....planning to buy a T 3i soon.😁
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah if the camera was great 10 years ago, it is still great today!
@3DOM65
@3DOM65 Жыл бұрын
do you think a t5i is good in 2022.
@heimvegen5295
@heimvegen5295 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Great points! 🙂I still enjoy using my 12 yr old Nikon D3100 as a backup camera. I only upgraded (Em5MK3) to get better IS for wildlife and sharper video footage. The smartphone is handy for practical archive/record photos; accident, unexpected happenings, text record etc.. but, for me, the photos seem too artificial. 🙂
@25palex
@25palex Жыл бұрын
always true
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431 Жыл бұрын
as long as phones rely on software and ai, it won't catch up to the rendition of real cameras. I can even appreciate of old CCD sensors than CMOS.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the only way to push forward is to upgrade hardware. Software is good, but has limitations too.
@39zack
@39zack Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong There is a limit on how much you can put into a phone and still keep it small. Phones will rely on software improvements and not much improvement in the hardware, at least not its size, unless a thicker phone gets trendy. And I don't think that wont happen any time soon, phones has replaced the digital compact camera and if you compare them they are much alike, at least in hardware. -fixed lens -fixed aperture -fits in your pocket (most of the time) By putting more lenses on a phone they are more or less just putting more compact cameras into one device. Phones are and will be the goto camera for the masses and mirrorless and dslrs will be for the enthusiasts and pros
@ridealongwithrandy
@ridealongwithrandy Жыл бұрын
HAH! we use the same wrist strap, however ... green is for film cameras, black for Nikon digital, tan for Olympus digital, G.A.S. at it's worst ...
@leckywoznicki5393
@leckywoznicki5393 Жыл бұрын
Thank you & i've always said that about mobile phones.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yes camera all the way
@GeorgeSapkin
@GeorgeSapkin Жыл бұрын
I still have a D80 I got when it was new that I consider reviving with exactly the same lens. It does have that warm early digital CCD vibe.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I almost bought a D80 too! But someone else snagged it first.
@diemes5463
@diemes5463 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so infectiously happy
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
10:20 The shutter sound on an SLR or that D50 DSLR is actually to me more satisfying than the mirrorless camera sound and much nicer than a smartphone. Needs that mirror slap!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I agree I love shutter sound too, but I also admit the advantage of having quieter shutter or silent shutter, in some situations the shutter can be too loud and intrusive!
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong Yes. Actually I do lik the shutter sound of my EM10 Mark ii. The old Olympus film SLRs were designed to be quieter than most other SLRs (or DSLRs). I notice that the EM5 Mark iii shutter is significantly quieter than the EM10 Mark ii. You cam almost feel it more than hear it. I'm guessing the weather sealing insulates the shutter sound, like double glazing shuts out the traffic noise in the city! It does make the EM5iii very unobtrusive among people.
@jupiterman7
@jupiterman7 Жыл бұрын
I started with my smartphone went to my go pro and now have gone Panasonic mft. I do wish camera manufacturers would open up to more creative apps on their cameras!!! if they want to compete with smartphones of the near future that in my opinion is the future and they need to step up their game!
@rakeshnambiar1897
@rakeshnambiar1897 Жыл бұрын
Awosome video 👌
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rakesh!
@praveenmallar
@praveenmallar Жыл бұрын
I think you should add field of view too. To compensate for the small lens, smart phones give wide angle field of view.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are just too many compromises!
@cmartin_ok
@cmartin_ok Жыл бұрын
For 30 dollars you got an absolute bargain there. Time for you to be called to take part in DigitalRev's series on Prophotographer, Cheap Camera challenge
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Christopher! Not sure if they want to work with someone so far away haha
@marcp.1752
@marcp.1752 Жыл бұрын
Video is so true, Robin ! I *can't* work without a viewfinder! Touchscreen fake shutter button via display onto the phone is really lame, also taking images at armlength. I always prefer a DSLR over an DSLM, very delicate, light sensitive eyes here. Can't work with grainy, flickering EVFs, also CAs, and all kinds of optical distortions at the very edges. Thankfully, EVFs are better since the at least 3.68mp generation...but still, no comparsion vs. an 100% all glass, bright pentaprism OVF (not speaken of a dimlit, small pentamirror OVF, like the D50 here has, with ca. 92 to 95% frame coverage)
@97nelsn
@97nelsn Жыл бұрын
I use a Sony A7III but you’re making me nostalgic for my Nikon D7000 and Nikkor AF-S 50mm f/1.8 setup. Maybe I should bring out again just for fun, or try some other Nikon DSLR bodies to use my 50mm 1.8
@exploringwithrotternfish7717
@exploringwithrotternfish7717 Жыл бұрын
Robin i'm really agreed the facts you mention here, cheaper old camera are better than new Phone camera even more expensive nowadays. I'm still using Lumix g6 16mp with olympus 75mm 1.8f lens and better photo than my iphone 14 . Thank you for sharing at least for new comer photographer understand why should be use real camera for photography.
@LEGOTROLL1
@LEGOTROLL1 2 ай бұрын
I have the D50 and i still use it. 👍✌️
@scrptwic
@scrptwic Жыл бұрын
Robin I leave my old Pentax *istDL from 2005 that sells for $20,00 on Ebay in my car I prefer using it compared to my smartphone i use it for street and general photography for exactly all the reasons that you listed I have a old Tamron 28-200 & a 75 -300, 18-55 kit zoom lens I carry with me my primes I carry are a Rokinon 14mm 2.8 , 28mm2.8 and a 50mm2.0
@naarangeeadventures
@naarangeeadventures Жыл бұрын
Even better I have a finepix S6500fd bridge camera it has 28 to 300mm optical zoom and is 6.1 mp too plus view finder it's excellent does everything I need if q little old had it from new
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
Old film SLRs are like vinyl records, the DSLRs are like Compact Discs and the smartphone cameras are like downloaded music. There is a lessening of the experience of the art for my tastes. It's a fairly sad trip into the virtual world from the physical.
@averymcdaniel423
@averymcdaniel423 Ай бұрын
I paid $8 for one a few years ago. Great buy
@toromaru0912
@toromaru0912 Жыл бұрын
very nice
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ssthapit
@ssthapit Жыл бұрын
I don't enjoy the photo taking experience on a smartphone. So I use my money on older DSLRs and M4/3 cameras that are so much more fun to use. I inherited the D50 from my grandfather-in-law and it is so much fun to use. Only gripe is that it does not accept cards bigger than 1GB, which limits me to 120 raw photos at a time.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, it accepts small cards, which was interesting, but good fun to work with too in its own way!
@monztunes6850
@monztunes6850 6 ай бұрын
Mine accepts 2gb. Not much but still
@PatrickDuquoc
@PatrickDuquoc Жыл бұрын
i love these old DSLR with CCD. Have you ever had and tested an old Pentax like the very little *ISTDs from 2004 ? i have it and i love it yet.
@jonaldenbabaan
@jonaldenbabaan Ай бұрын
I have this camera and I still using it. It us a great camera
@anthonyocarroll5630
@anthonyocarroll5630 3 ай бұрын
A food for thought its really the handeler not Camera whether it be the best or the old
@karipekkayletyinen1893
@karipekkayletyinen1893 Жыл бұрын
Great, inspiring, and passionate! Loved it!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kari!
@stuarthirsch
@stuarthirsch Жыл бұрын
I had one, then I got the D7000, OLY Pen EP-L1, & my OLY OMD. Even my P&S cameras are better than the best smartphone camera.
@demarestk
@demarestk Жыл бұрын
Of course it does..... ;)
@firefly4112
@firefly4112 Жыл бұрын
I am all for taking photos with a real camera and owns Olympus EM-1 with many pro lenses for many years, but the vast majority of people prefer the portability of a smartphone, the simplicity of UI, the instant share or upload capability, the bigger screen to view and edit right on the spot, the image quality or technical advantage of a DSLR is not even in their thought process. On a few occasion, i shown a guy the image difference taken between the DSLR and a smartphone, he just shrug and so what, so for the masses, a DSLR just can't compete with smartphone, no matter how we try to convince them, it's the reality.
@arrow501
@arrow501 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video Robin. Do you leave metering up to the camera or shoot manual? I'm thinking of getting a cheap DSLR to compliment my bridge camera but worry I may miss the what you see is what you get and live histogram of an Electronic Viewfinder.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
For the DSLR I shoot with Aperture Priority. For my own OM-D I will change the modes depending on situations. I only shoot manual if I have to.
@arrow501
@arrow501 Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong Thank you.
@marcp.1752
@marcp.1752 Жыл бұрын
Robin, i've had the D50 - biggest Issue, SD Cards only up to 2GB, no more ! Or if i could remember correctly, 4GB SD Cards could being accessed, but not being formatted inside the D50, even with latest Firmware. I love the CCD Sensor colors, and also it shines clearly hereby. Not comparable with any shitty phone camera, APS-C/DX Sensor size, not extraordinary tiny phone sensor...albeit my phone (Note 9 Pro) is with gcam mod good enough as occasional snapshot, for what it is.. :) the D60 & up don't have this issue... I've had and bought the D100, D50, D70s, D60, D80, D90 & D7000 Bodies, then no more - because there was never been a 23/24mm prime from Nikon for DX, always lame duck 18-xx(x) zooms only, since 1999. Still have the D60, D80, D90 & D7000.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
Robin, what do you think about the computational photography creeping into the enthusiast and pro camera world? I think it has advantages and disadvantages. I can see its uses for special situations but it can go too far in my view. It gets to be like it isn't your own picture any more. Another example of the "You will own nothing and be happy" mantra of the WEF.🤮
@wd5jlr
@wd5jlr Жыл бұрын
D50 has a built in flash.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
4:59 I hate looking at the back sceen of bridge cameras and the screen of a smartphone. If you need spectacles you can't see the subject and the image properly at the same time. Also the viewfinder is a great aid to steadiness. With my trembly hands, I find it stressful if people ask me to take photos with a smartphone, especially before they had big shot image stabilisation. smartphone
@joee6506
@joee6506 Жыл бұрын
I agree that phones are extremely useful, but… Replaceable batteries! Phone batteries are sometimes limited in capacity. I guess you can carry a “power brick” to charge your phone, but usually a second camera battery is going to be more convenient. Ability to bring your own light source with a camera by using a speed light, etc. You can easily use a tripod for long exposures, etc. with a camera.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah for serious photography, a dedicated camera is definitely more versatile and will go the extra mile to get that shot. The smartphone is convenient for quick snaps, but can't be used for anything serious.
@ikonseesmrno7300
@ikonseesmrno7300 Жыл бұрын
Using that camera compared to a smartyphone is almost cheating.🤣 The D50 is still a great camera & I would be hard pressed to find a phone that could keep up to it. My issue with phone vs camera is the fact that you can't get technical with a smartphone. I can take my old Kodak MFT camera, put it on a bellows with a reversed lens & zoom in to around 10 grooves on a record & they will be crisp & clear. Not doing that with a phone. Also not going to zoom in on a deer at 300 yards & have it look like it's standing at the end of the lens barrel. Color rendering is about the same between my camera & phone.... the phone only being a little better with colors using HDR. Then add a Singh Ray clip on CC filter to really knock it out of the park. But that's if there's no filter on the camera.😁 Regards!!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yes, that was the exact point I wanted to make, an old camera such as D50 can still beat a smartphone today!
@marike1100
@marike1100 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased a Canon 40D near mint for 85 usd, and a Tamron 17-50 f2.8 for 135 usd. 🤣 Long time Nikon user but the made in Japan magnesium alloy DSLR body from Canon are works of art. Tank build, 10mp CCD (likely Sony) sensor. Hate smartphone photography.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, 40D is a legend too, I used to have a friend to take great photos with it.
@socksonfeet8125
@socksonfeet8125 Жыл бұрын
Smartphones look like they are trying to paint the image sometimes, its really strange looking, looks like blobs of paint lol. Especially night time photos.
@TelmanRaoofi
@TelmanRaoofi Жыл бұрын
Hi Robin. I have a totally unrelated question. On my OM-D E-M 5 mark III, when I choose a 5×5 for focus point selection, an "HP" sign appears on top of the screen. I couldn't find any explanation. Can you explain what that is? Thanks
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 10 ай бұрын
There is no denying the best camera is the one with you. Smartphone wins. Plus you are paying over time with a Smartphone unless paying for it all at once is your bag. The CCD ability of the D50 is a sweetheart. I had a D200. My Brother enjoys it to this day. Formerly mine. My Canon 1DX and 1D mk.4 still impresses me what it can do. I enjoy both standard optical or EVF, they both work. I also have Sony cameras too. My iPhone 12 Pro Max is fine given it's use case. I will never disagree that the dedicated camera will win. Proven that for over 50 years. Will computing photography beat a dedicated camera? Color science will be an interesting bag. It will come down to what you like. It may/may not be what you like. The shutter sound is nice, but silent shutter is nice when you are not wanting to draw attention to themselves. It comes down to what is your goal and use case. Buy used, and let everyone else have the latest and greatest. I shoot the mental battery life a7ii, and a7Rii along with an a6400, and the Canons. But what is in my pocket ready to go? Not a 1DX! Or any of my Sonys. My iPhone 12 Pro Max. When the unexpected arises, that Smartphone will be there. Your DSLR, or Mirrorless? Not so much. You have to make a conscious effort to bring your kit whatever it may be. A stretch for many. Me? Not really. I will bring the kit for my planned events, but my Smartphone is there all the time. Simple!
@mipmipmipmipmip
@mipmipmipmipmip Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting a new smartphone with OIS at black friday, but I looked up the reviews and they are still underperforming. A Samsung S22 for example has disappointing battery life. In the meantime the smartphone cameras get 100 or more megapixels on a tiny sensor, which makes no sense at all.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah for now, camera is still a superior solution.
@milodermick2981
@milodermick2981 10 ай бұрын
I totally agréé with you
@fthprodphoto-video5357
@fthprodphoto-video5357 Жыл бұрын
Make yourself a favor and listen to this Robins video : buy yourself a Nikon D200 or any d80, D60, D40, D50, D70 or even D3000 camera with a glorious CCD sensor and shoot at max 400 ISO with good 1.4-2.8 glass : these CCD cameras look like Kodachrome cameras
@RWROW
@RWROW Жыл бұрын
About time all the "real camera" manufacturers clubbed together and paid Robin to do an ad campaign for them worldwide.
@osmancoskun1946
@osmancoskun1946 Жыл бұрын
👍
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@dickybirdcch
@dickybirdcch 9 ай бұрын
Where do you buy such cheap cameras? I see old used 4 thirds cameras at 100 usd locally.
@kawarps
@kawarps Жыл бұрын
At last some one offers common sense advice on photography on KZbin
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Common sense is so rare these days
@mugilandag
@mugilandag Жыл бұрын
Hey that's me and my imaginary mistress at 8:56
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Good imagination you have man
@cheongit
@cheongit Жыл бұрын
Who can share the link for the $30??? I wanna buy 2!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
It was in Carousell. Happy hunting.
@hum2020
@hum2020 Жыл бұрын
my old d800e still costs less than top smart phone.
@RedmiNotepro-sm9si
@RedmiNotepro-sm9si Жыл бұрын
If you're not DSLR shooter or SLR it is hard to know the deference between image quality. No side by side comparison oin the video. So this video for DSLR/SLR owner's.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I am a photographer. Comparisons are meaningless. I'd rather take photos in real life. That means, using ONE camera at a time. For comparisons, there are many non-photographers (gadget/tech review sites) that can help you.
@RedmiNotepro-sm9si
@RedmiNotepro-sm9si Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong but you do compare image quality oral in the video. But there no proofs. You should show comparison in the video and talk on the radio even if you're are plumber. Have a nice day.
@bloomylicious
@bloomylicious Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit torn on this one. I love dedicated cameras, and am a big fan of good cheap cameras. I also think smartphone photography has a great place in photography. I feel some of your claims are a bit disingenuous about things old cameras like that always do better at. A few examples would be bokeh. Sure you can get some fantastic bokeh on a proper camera, but if your subject is close you can still get ok real bokeh on a phone, especially on some of the newer phones with larger sensors, like the Pixel 6/7, the latest iPhones, phones like the Xperia Pro-i and Xiaomi 12s ultra. There's a number of phones these days with 1 inch type sensors and fairly bright lenses too, and 2023 looks set to be full of flagship phones with 1 inch type sensors. Also on a proper camera the bokeh is very dependent on the additional lens you buy, it's maximum aperture and focal length, and this comes at an extra cost. Moving on to autofocus, some older cameras are notorious for slower autofocus, especially if paired with a lens with poor autofocus/slow autofocus motor, whereas focus is pretty much instant on most modern phones, using a combination of dual pixel PDAF and laser autofocus for accuracy and speed, instead of just contrast based autofocus on some older cameras. Likewise phone cameras have had the about to shoot raw for years now, including jpeg and raw, either in the primary camera app and/or a third party app like Open Camera on android. There are also loads of cameras that have a manual mode or again can use one via a third party app, giving you control over at least iso and shutter speed. Being able to edit that raw that you took with manual settings in something like lightroom mobile on the phone is a huge plus, and dodges all that over processing baked into phone jpegs. There's also phones like the Xperia Pro-i with a variable aperture, and I get the feeling with more 1 inch type sensors coming up you'll see this happen more too. I agree the ergonomics of a proper camera are much better, and can provide good battery life if not used on any kind of love view mode. On the other hand the old adage of the best camera is the one you have with you is very important I think, and trying out some of these manual features on a camera you already own, before buying an extra camera with multiple lenses for different focal lengths is a good idea. Anyway I know that was a huge ramble, not meaning to have a go, just felt like you were perhaps slightly over the top on some of your comparisons between the two categories of device, and didn't provide much evidence to back up what you were saying, for example showing a phone and a camera trying to focus on the same object and seeing what the autofocus speed was like, or taking the same raw photo on each device and editing them both to look at how close or far apart they are in final image quality.
@joestrahl6980
@joestrahl6980 Жыл бұрын
Sure I think everything you said could be added to what Robin said. However: he was taking up the average modern cellphone vs a "dinosaur" dslr and in that way it is hard to see him sort of cheating as you said. Yes there are very exprnsive smartphones that have more advanced features than the average phone....and that was his point right? Instead of spending 2000+ usd for a smartphone if you want to get into photography, consider buying an ancient digital camera to learn and experience photography instead of snapping on your phone and let the AI do the rest. Ergonomics including the lack of a viewfinder on smartphones are rubbish: if you are serious about photography that should be a good reason to question the viability of smartphone photography if you are going to be out all day.
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
You said "I also think smartphone photography has a great place in photography". I said the same thing, did you not see that part? I said smartphone is the future, and I acknowledge the importance of smartphone photography. My point in this video is for those who may not have unlimited funds (II think I speak for the majority of us, normal humans) and will feel strained when forking out thousands for that new spanking flagship smartphone camera. Instead, you can have cheaper alternative. I disagree with older camera with slower AF. Look at D50. How much older are we talking about? The D50 (17 years old now) is still blazing fast, and I dare challenge latest iphone or samsung phones with the D50 to capture action shots. You sound like you love smartphone photography, and that is great. I am not taking anything away from that, feel free to use the tool that suits you. But you also cannot deny the true experience of shooting with a real camera - handling grip, real veiwfinder, actual shutter sound, ability to change lens to do more, having real bokeh (what the Pixel is doing is a joke) and professional looking images, all these at the moment, the smartphones fail to deliver.
@houssamreg9360
@houssamreg9360 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👌
@VenomIIID
@VenomIIID Жыл бұрын
Nothing can beat a good glass, it's just physics. Fake bokeh is the worst artificial processing function in smartphones. It's horrendous. My old D60 has better quality than any modern smartphone.
@markyteo
@markyteo Жыл бұрын
You haven't even gone into low light photography!
@robinwong
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
You are obviously very new to this channel. I discuss low light shooting a lot.
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