RoboCOPY: How "Ghost In The Shell" rips off Robocop

[@underthemayo]

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[@sleepy_killer]

€umming with me

[@4_bex]

don't forget about valfaris

[@eleven2435]

"Come quietly, or there will be trouble!"

[@nickblack2006]

Mr Mayo, sir, when will we have the first part of the review/retrospective on Ghost in the Shell standalone complex?

[@underthemayo]

@nickblack2006 oh, im sad to say that will never happen. But I do have a tv series video coming in February.

[@El_Reddaio]

The biggest difference between these two movies is that I (a massive GitS fan) did not fall asleep while watching Robocop.

[@ashgonza92]

It's cool I fall asleep during both blade runners all the time and they're great

[@DJ-Krimson-Steele]

​@@ashgonza92That's not the endorsement you think it is.

[@ashgonza92]

@@DJ-Krimson-Steele well no but the best way to describe them is dreamlike or surreal so I fall asleep to them very easily

[@tylernol1566]

Bro, I do this too! Why do I fall asleep to GitS!!!

[@decayedparadigm]

Question is? Do we dream awhile asleep after watching blade runner.

[@HordeModeGaming]

So it's a... RoboCopy

[@underthemayo]

More than anything that's even existed.

[@jase8975]

The video may not be out yet, but Masamune Shirow's other cyberpunk publications like Black Magic (1983), Dominion and Appleseed (both 1985) were long before Robocop (1987). The original manga publication for Ghost in the Shell was 1989 but I think you see the origins of Shirow's work. Now if the video is talking about the inferior (but still fun) Hollywood version of Ghost in the Shell, I can see some arguments being made. I still have three hours before Mayo's video debuts.

[@th3lonef0x4]

Based on the thumbnail, I'm leaning strongly towards the American adaptation of GITS he's taking about.

[@igodreamer7096]

Good info. And yes, its about the inferior Hollywood adaptation.

[@jase8975]

Just a followup, I agree with Mayo. Major ScarJo stole all of Murphy's story beats. Thank you for being super respectful to all the other great Ghost in the Shell media!

[@Artesian_mirage]

RoboCopy Machine

[@grindkerensky]

I had the same misgivings/fears before, but well all gone. He did his homework and yeah ... I can see the similarities.

[@hob976]

Give the thumbnail guy a raise. That sh*t is top-tier.

[@underthemayo]

Thanks! I did it all myself. I typically struggle with thumbnail design because I'm not a visual artist at all. But this one just came together for me.

[@hob976]

@@underthemayo That thumbnail jumped right out in front of the other seven on my screen. The video wasn't even viewable yet and I clicked just to see that thumb! Really sharp work.

[@sophia_comicart]

I can tell you one thing. Robocop covers its bases so thoroughly as a character led plot of human augmentation and corruption, it makes writing anything else in that area seem derivative almost automatically. I figured this out as I’m currently writing a graphic novel with human augmentation also as a central theme and I am REALLY having to make the utmost of my specific themes and subtextual content to make the character driven plotting and tone etc, feel unique. If someone asked you to write a movie about a time traveler chased by a cyborg, that could go almost anywhere but you’re still left dealing with the most basic core aspects of humanity in common to deal with, let alone necessary moments that both have to use. Making that feel unique is hard work, but it means you can go from Terminator to Frankenstein. Same action, wildly different in execution.

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Read Metal and Memory by Evil Dolly

[@OutspokenWeeb]

I thought the thumbnail was a stretch at first, but holy shit that is BLATANT.

[@underthemayo]

Yeah I knew people would come in skeptical. That's why I really lay it out almost like a court case, with the big closing statement at the end listing all 20 points. It's case closed guilty at that point. I think this video is putting out something unique, I'm hoping it gets some attention. We'll see.

[@kibayaiba3893]

The original anime and manga of ghost in the shell is too complex to be a movie. The story is too deep and extremely complex and complicated when it’s come to politics and cybernetic engine. Ghost in the shell is a pure classic of cyberpunk the queen of nostalgia.

An Anime is a movie, ain't it?

[@kibayaiba3893]

Not only the movie but there are a lot of different series in ghost in the shell and all of It are Just to Beautiful✨

@@kibayaiba3893 Alas, no. The one that's set in California was pretty awful.

[@kibayaiba3893]

Yeah, I was thinking about it, but I didn’t mention. I know the show got up and down in the past but in general. I think it’s a good show. but sadly Atsuko Tanaka Passed away 😭 I don’t know how they can change that iconic Japanese voice actress because I don’t watch ghost in the shell in English

[@loaduscoolclipz5505]

As someone who loves Mamoru Oshii’s films including GiTS (1995), this was the first time i’ve ever seen anything about the Holywood remake. I am in total shock. What a dumbed down bastardisation. And if you hadn’t known mayo, there’s a new GiTS anime adaptation coming out next year, done by Science Saru, who’s worked on fantastic movies and series before. I’m hoping it’ll be more faithful to the manga’s tone, because it deserves to be adapted that way too!

[@zeframmann1641]

[2hrs before premier] I'll give you a chance to cook because it looks like you're talking about the live-action movie, but if this is about the manga you're just going to be that dad who uses too much starter fluid at the bbq and sets the back yard on fire. Edit: He cooked.

[@everybodythinkstheywantfreedom]

I think Kusanagi is just doing her job BUT Murphy got a strong sense of duty

[@ryanmcamis7419]

While true, Kusanagi goes above and beyond to "just do her job." Once she becomes curious or interested, she doesn't stop. She'd totally work with Murphy and try a date.

[@Impalingthorn]

I always felt like this movie failed for the reasons listed at the beginning but all anyone paid attention to was the weakest argument which was "The Major isn't asian". Um.. she was a cyborg body based on a Russian model and god knows how many different foreign cyborg bodies before that. It's literally called "Ghost in the Shell" referencing the fact that a human consciousness is in another vessel. Meanwhile everything else in the film and its lack of focus on what the actual original story was about is just staring you in the face. It was a Hollywood interpretation of Ghost in the Shell. They took a story about what it even means to be human and turned it into Robocop. I love Robocop, but that's NOT why I loved Ghost in the Shell.

[@patchouli3422]

>My name is Major No, it isn't.

[@B1SCOOP]

The fact the remake has the "Bring up the spider tank!" line in, it sums pretty much how the producers had little regard to both the original story and intelligence of movie audience.

[@erickvonengelwalten8568]

i was a great fan of Masamune when i was young, because gals, guns and bots, why not? And his work was a total cyberpunk since the beginning, with mangas like Black Magic, Dominion, Appleseed, his work has always the same trend, GITS is no difference. I like the animated movie a lot, still does, but i agree its kinda of Oshii personal take on it, but no doubt one of the best movies ever made in Japan. The american version of this is the "everything wrong" with western artists, you see, most of the influences of Ghost in the Shell came from the West, cyberpunk, detective novels, full technocracy, decadent mega cities, corporation ruling over governments, dog eat dog cops routine, and the japanese artist could filter and syphon all these themes and convert the concept and ideas to a Eastern/Oriental masterwork in a sense. If you guys desagree, you can at least say it has its own style. Its the same thing with movies and games, one good example is Resident Evil, its a zombie apocalypse game in the USA imagined by japanese people, everything has a unique flavor because it borders one diferent kinda of reality that we all loved. Now when western trying to reimagined the thing they created and inspired previously, with a bit of spice coming from Rising Sun nation, they do the most poor adaptation they could imagine, its not only making safe choices for overbudget production, its not understand their culture, their work, and even the public they want to trying to produce, sell and profit from. And if you do not understand these things, just dont do the thingy. By the way i dont think the movie is bad, i just think its dumb... Make for lazy people by lazy people, it does not have the "artsy" and profound line of thinking of the original material.

[@nightlydata2181]

Agreed tho I haven't seen the LA myself & don't know when/if I will tbh

[@francocentrone197]

LMAO I've never watched the live action remake of Ghost in The Shell, never even heard anyone say this before Amazing work, now I want to watch the tv-anime version because I never finished it. Thanks MayoMan

[@stardust_2339]

Shame they wasted the movie for a bad copypaste of a plot from a much better movie. Visuals, music and aesthetics were all there for GiTS 2017, even ScarJo was a good casting for the Major. Good video Mayo.

[@Fenris30]

@@stardust_2339 All those set pieces are FROM the Manga. Why wouldn't they use them?

[@EatWave]

In the manga, the only thing known about the protagonists is that they are not actually named Motoko Kusanagi. It is just a codename. Even the character's original race and gender is unknown. One would think that it would be hard to mess up an adaptation when the source has that much wiggle room but they found a way.

[@futurepig]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the blatant Robocop ripoff. I hate when a movie adaptation discards the entire premise of the original material. The main theme of GITS was a society where almost everyone is cyborg, to the point that the only guy who has no cybernetic implants in the department was seen as a curiosity. At some point in the comic it's discussed that the protagonist was over 70 years old, showing how long the practice of putting human brains in robot bodies has been goin on.

[@GeeseH]

Interesting regarding the conversation between Togusa & Kusanagi about his revolver, I didn't realise until maybe a couple of years ago that Mateba are an actual company. It's still interesting to me he wasn't using a Deagle or similar western piece.

[@a.f.watcher8888]

I remember losing all interest in this film the moment I saw that the Snow White and The Huntsman guy was attached to Write/Direct.

[@MayumiTakezoC-chan9377]

she has no business playing my favorite character Major Motoko Kusanagi

[@Locruceus]

Major question is: "do this is better than doom 2016?"

[@Exerillo]

Robocop and Ghost In The Shell would be one hell of a crossover.

[@underthemayo]

or couple

[@Exerillo]

@underthemayo 😶

[@Ming1975]

Didn't her parents died in an accident and the insurance was left use to save her by cyborging her then when the funds ran out they sold her to the military and that's how she grew up trying to recover ownership of her cyborg body eversince?

[@underthemayo]

Maybe that's the story according to other canon something but that's not in the manga or the anime.

[@AltCutTV]

There is a sequence in the original comic that is quite tangent to the Hollywood version and could possibly have been adapted as that origin story. It's the thing about the brainwashed refugees. (later adapted into a plotline for SAC if I remember correctly) It is also clear MK has a very strong out of character (and somewhat odd at that) reaction to this incident, which may mean it hints at something deeper. The Robocop thing probably still would be the actual inspiration due to all the other minor pattern similarities.

[@nagyandras8857]

Spot on.

[@xandermijares342]

I’m glad you’re the “RoboCop Guy”! Your videos on RoboCop have reignited so much love for the series again, not just for me but for millions of people. Can’t wait to see what you have next in store for RoboCop! Subscribed!

[@monkeyhighlord4412]

Key takeaway: MEEKABLOOD!

[@Vineadb]

Always love the structure of your videos and just how you articulate things.

[@N33k5]

I was already mad that the live action remake existed because I knew they were going to fuck it up and could smell it on the promos. Seeing that they fucked it up by ripping off RoboCop instead of just giving us an already really solid story that GitS already had.

[@DebraLynche]

In original 1995 version openning with section 9's first appearance is doing black ops on section 6's request Motoko's cool action's a part of the plan While hollywood's major jump into action due section 9's incompatency That's a bad start 1995's section 9's interogation know about garbage man's brain hacked and care for his well being since he's a victim While hollywood's know nothing, pointless interogation, let the man killed himself 1995's end with motoko's officially died and everything got covered up, the world keep going nothing in the whole film will get public noone outside will know about government's shinanigan like a dystopian story While hollywood end with major went back to do her old jobs like nothing happenned Also 1995's Togusa handpicked by motoko because he isn't a cyborg so he have a difference world view that the whole team lag And he prove that in notice the intruder first, and his oldschool revolver prove the place in this world like him when it can load unconventional round and still function reliably like tracker round and less lethal round While hollywood's didn't even have actual interesting point about old generation in the newer world

[@theouterarrowhead]

Hated that fucking movie (GitS) I had compared it to Jason Borne, which is NOT who Kusanagi is.

[@lazyhominid]

One of the points of the anime is that Motoko has a subdued personality, little backstory and comes across as cold, while the Puppeteer is flamboyant, aggressive, and has an appetite for life. If Motoko had a more colorful personality, there wouldn't be much of a conflict in the connection between them. It's a deliberate, and important, decision to switch from the manga style Motoko to focus the story on this one element - which drives the whole story, apart from the opening scene. The intent of Motoko being cold is to maximize the climax of the story, and it works very well. Adding backstory to Motoko in the anime will not add anything to the climax - and may well derail audience attention when things get deep at the movie climax. It would be distraction. And there isn't really much to add to the movie by adding backstory. The only option which would add to the movie would be to increase tension by building a backstory which makes Motoko reluctant to accept the proposal at the climax, but again, that would detract from the purely philosophical perspective offered. There is a lot more depth and thought to the choices made in how the anime is built than I see you give credit for. I'm a bit disappointed by that, from a channel which supposedly has analysis which is worth spending time on.

[@PeneloWings]

After seing your previous analysis I understood Robocop is the best movie in human history

[@MK384]

The American remake does not exist in my head canon. Pure garbage.

[@TheFly212]

American's can't adapt mature, dark, highly thematic anime like Ghost in the Shell. Hell they couldn't even adapt Cowboy Bebop which is just a neo noir action space adventure lol. Let alone something like Ghost in the Shell, imagine if Hollywood tried to adapt something like Psycho Pass or Eva... Holy shit. Hollywood is to dumb for mature anime like GITS.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

Man I was so dissapointed with the live action GITS, especially because it had some* potential! I remember liking the music, and some of the action scenes and effects were pretty well done. It just felt so lifeless and boring for most of it. No real memorable characters or acting, story. Its a shame because I think a lot of these live action adaptations could work if done right by people who care about the IP.

[@ethernoh]

Agreed on the dumpster fire Hollywood adaptation, not on the original source material.

[@direct278]

No matter how faint you make it, Mayo, I'll always recognize music from Streets of Rage. Excellent work, as always.

[@bobpeterson7182]

The Major doesn't need a back story, you can make that up yourself. All the over explanation in everything is so tiresome.

[@boneszero01]

I completely agree. I’ve been thinking of this for years. Making her special just because her cybernetic body missed the point. She was special because of who she was on the inside…one could say because of her soul…ghost.😄 I was expecting the 2017 movie to be a hybrid of the manga, and anime movie, and heavily influenced by 2nd GIG with a dash of the later missions impossible movies. I hope someone gets another chance and learns from 2017 mistakes.

[@AltCutTV]

It's the Hollywood way. They did the exakt same thing for Alita. Film: "Your heart is the most special and powerful thing in the world!" Comic: It's basically a bloody pump. ;D

[@kingjiffycoats]

When are we getting Mario Brothers is a blade runner ripoff

[@GeahkBurchill]

I just LOVE that this is a RoboCop channel now 😊

[@yeahboyz9314]

Bout to he doom channel again

[@DJ-Krimson-Steele]

Watching the Ghost In The Shell movie made me want to watch the anime, and re-read the manga. Watching this video just makes me want to watch Robocop again.

[@moomoodeadcow]

One of the main reasons why the movie wasn't popular in Asia. Otherwise Scarlett Johansson was perfect.

[@stargazerlaurent6780]

They tried to make it Robocop. Robocop is meant to be the American Jesus. The GITS source material makes the Major the cyberpunk Buddha. It doesn’t matter who she was or will be. But Hollywood wanted her to have this whole ass backstory and missed the point

[@underthemayo]

What's hilarious is that they actually named the villain Hideo Kuze. That's the name of the villains for the series in season 2. And he's the guy that was the child next to Major in the hospital after the plane crash in her backstory. They had a great way to tell her backstory AND connect it to the central plot. In the remake they just take his name.

[@nightlydata2181]

That's a hilariously good way to describe each lol

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@underthemayo Speaking of, the plot of Makoto being a Japanese woman stuck in a mass produced shell that in universe is in this case based off a white woman? Coulda done some cool identity shit with that, but nope

[@stargazerlaurent6780]

@ A lot of these hollywood suits are like "Eh my son Hershel he likes these chinese cartoons. Have Deidre downstairs watch a couple and write down the names. Then we'll just make it like robocop. Super sad. Because the soundtrack was on point

[@hollerncraft]

The movie directed by the same guy who directed The Crow reboot. Once I saw his name I knew it was going to be a horrible adaption, because I saw this crap day one in theater.

[@protogenxl]

Ghost In The Shell (2017) is a copy of ROBOCOP FIFY

[@caio_mancinigtr]

GiS standalone complex might be the best anime of all time

[@underthemayo]

I found it very uneven, but I loved a lot of the individual stories they did.

[@btchiaintkidding7837]

I really like it but you are delusional bro cmon

[@shushyshushy6762]

Manga Major > Both Anime versions of Major > Hollywood live action Major.

[@civilwarfare101]

Its easily one of the best mainstream anime you can find.

[@MikoYotsuya292]

Its legendary. Such complex show probably never be replicated again

[@darthalba3785]

I grew up on anime thanks to vacationing in Mexico as a kid. But my first English language animes were Ghost in the Shell, Akira, and Ninja Scroll.

[@plasticflower]

Uhm, hello?! Robocop: Wears a helmet. Major Kusanagi: No helmet. I rest my case.

[@conradseeto7506]

You hit the nail on the head. I've been saying this in online arguments for years.

[@damianstarks3338]

Great video analysis and comparisons

[@beyondthegravebrandon]

Well there is a series called Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex that kind of gives us glimpse into her backstory bits. Amd they were really good and also sets up Motoko's dynamic with one of the major antagonist in 2nd GiG named Hideo Kuze. It was interesting no doubt about it. Idk why the director of the live action couldn't try to replicate the magic of SAC (Possibly my favourite anime of all time) but still use one character from that particular series I was about to throw hands after seeing the thumbnail

[@underthemayo]

Yup! This video talks about that specific episode.

[@rotwang2000]

Hollywood has made a ton of complex movies that twist your mind, like the Matrix series, Apocalypse Now, American Psycho, Donnie Darko, Being John Malkovich, the Sixth Sense, Shutter Island, most of Nolan, Cronenberg and Lynch's films etc. But GITS was a straightforward vanilla blockbuster adaptation and they rely on set tropes and truisms endlessly repeated. One of those tropes is that mixing biological and mechanical parts is a bad thing (how dare you evil hip replacements !!!) In Shirow's world adding tech to your body is commonly accepted. You have people who exist as a brain in a semi mobile box who can swap to humanoid bodies if needed. So translating it to the big screen in a vanilla blockbuster you're undoing decades of the same message being told over and over that cybernetics is the road to losing your soul. So they have to change the story to fit the established narrative. Look at Shirow's work, the Anime adaptation and subsequent takes. Shirow's work is filled with weird humoristic moments and cartoonish (sic) elements, the Anime goes for dead serious and goes very deep into some of the topics Shirow established and culled others. The US adaptation was a copy of the Anime, but with the ending altered to fix the expectations of blockbuster audiences. Take another Manga/Anime who touches on the subject : Gunnm or Battle Angel Alita. It would have been a very similar take if this was yet another vanilla adaptation (Oh no, you stole my humanity !) but it's helmed by James Cameron who has a wider vision than just piling up tropes and wrap them into a movie skin. (Yes there is Avatar ...) So having somebody going against the grain like a Nolan would is important to sell a high concept like GITS and not having it bastardized because of possible negative audience reactions.

[@YuniorGamboa]

I still remember the 1995 film Ghost in the Shell. I was incredibly intrigued by its dialogue, action, story, and voice acting, which were all excellent and engaging. I wish we would have gotten A Robocop anime just like that

[@BubblegumCrash332]

I remember how excited I was when I heard they are making a Ghost in the Shell movie. After I saw it I prayed they would never make an Akira movie.

[@scolioreset]

Plagiarism is often said to be the most sincere form of flattery. Plagiarism is part of art history. All the paintings represent that aspect. The artist that is next in line can only hope to understand what came before and eventually put its own twist. In a way, it can show how good the original work was… aka Robocop. But the 2017’s film capturing almost none if nothing from the original manga, animated feature or the Stand-Alone Complex series make the plagiarism just a copy.

[@MakBot]

Stand Alone Complex was such a good show. The Major is one of my favorite characters in all of fiction.

[@robmar1014]

I've been saying this for years!!! So glad you took the dive in.

[@underthemayo]

Yeah. And it's so much worse (as you can see) once you actually reexamine it specifically looking.

[@ryanmcamis7419]

Ghost in the Shell tackles a world where we accept turning people into Robocop as a life-saving medical practice, complete with rights and regulations.

[@mitchellgillon2583]

The reason there is not a character narrative for the major. Is that would distract you from the way she feels and cut away from the story. One of the themes is she is unsure if her memory is hers or something implanted. She has a life without a past or a future purpose beyond her mission. Therefore how does she know she is actually human or a construct of humanity to be a slave?

[@andres_borghi]

well, the climax is not the same. robocop fights and kills the guys that killed him, but you make it look like the ed209 fight was the climatic one, even though that scene comes before the swat scene. and it's Robo who kills dick jones at the end, not some other guy like in ghost in the shell. kinda a stretch there.

[@underthemayo]

Well the ED209 fight happens going into the final act of the film and then wraps up in the ending. It doesn't matter that robocop's fight is broken up with a showdown with other villains before the finishing the job. Both these things happen in the later part of the films and are both finished in the final moments. I don't think this is the big point you think it is. And it doesn't matter who kills the corporate boss personally. What matters is that he is killed. Shot the same way, falling back the same way. Robo shot him, and the major gives permission over a call for her boss to shoot him. So she gave the order. Shes complicit in his killing. I knew there would be ONE person saying 'ummm but she didn't shoot him, it was her boss, so it's not the same" lol

[@plasticflower]

Hey wasn’t there a later anime adaptation that also made Kusanagi into some sort of super special cyborg, because she was cyberized basically straight out of the womb or something?

[@underthemayo]

Yeah that's the most recent one

[@erickienitz1490]

There's a lot to deconstruct concerning what went wrong with the live action GitS but the main thing is to remember everyone was feeding off of everything available back then in the '80s and early to mid '90s because there was so little in the way of actual cyberpunk. So.. the live action gets some slack cut for it in that regard - even though it was made 3 decades after the primary burgeoning of the genre - because it's trying to be a throwback to an era that had little for it to throwback too. Also... a copy can be fun if done right. No, what the real problem here is that the movie is just mediocre. It's not even really bad. and it's not good. It's just.. drying paint. And that's a cold hard way for GitS to be treated, it didn't deserve that.

[@DavidGreen_au]

Interesting depth to the analysis. I saw live GitS as closer to Robocop, just on the basis of an organic brain in a cyborg body. In the original, the Kusanagi only has a Cyber brain, which is quite obvious as in the original Anime and Manga, she is able to be transferred to a new brain as required. Can't do that with organics. I was also amused by the presence of the dachshunds in the live version. Those dogs were only part of the Anime because Oshii always adds them to his Anime, it's like a signature, like Hitchcock doing cameos in this own films, or rain in a Ridley Scott film. I suspect that they had visions of this being an origin story for a franchise kick-start. But as it bombed badly, that is not going to happen. Or at least I hope not…

[@zameme383]

I was like WHAT? then I saw the thumbnail with the live action movie

[@deathcold_longplaysua4846]

I'm not a fan of Ghost in the Shell but I'm a BIG fan of RoboCop. I watched all of the live action movies, including TV shows, excluding cartoons. I played almost all video games about RoboCop, excluding the latest one and saying all that, seen how much that Ghost in the Shell movie is copying RoboCop makes me feel bad. Like, they could have made a manga based movie but instead, hollywood been hollywood, they decided to just copy RoboCop. Sure, the basics is taken from Ghost in the Shell source material, but the structure is straight up from RoboCop. Again, I'm not a fan of Ghost in the Shell but they could have done a better movie instead of copying someone's work.

[@91MoonKnight]

I enjoyed the 2017 movie and I am a GiTS fan I especially love the Stand Alone Complex. The changes never bothered me especially with fans of the manga disliking the animated movie and the TV series. I am also used to Americans making changes when adapting foreign IP's or various forms of media like for example the American Office being different to the UK Office or The Ring being different to Ringu I also love Robocop and would love to see a Robocop anime.

[@JamesScholes]

Regardless, RoboCop did it better.

[@Rou_Zza]

people's response prediction list: - this is racist - Mayo has zero media literacy - Mayo is the king of bad takes - someone bringing up The Magnificent Seven and The Seven Samurai as a counter example - Ultrakill - actually Robocop is a copy of *insert some random manga from 1983*

[@underthemayo]

Yeah we'll see 😜

[@DebraLynche]

Nah nobody gonna defense hollywood for this one Even the fans hate it

[@eleven2435]

@@DebraLynche Yep!

[@Niloklives]

So the Movie was bad and everything you said was spot on. I will say that the live action movie seemed to draw more from the Anime "Standalone Complex" which did give Major Kusanagi more of a backstory, particularly in season 2. A lot of the major characters in the movie drew directly from season 2. As a result, I didn't even notice the Robocop parallels until you pointed them out.

[@vincentangel3791]

It is said that Masamune Shirow was a fanatic of Robocop, which is why he drew some inspiration from it.

[@pianotm]

As a long time GitS fan, I didn't hate it. I was surprised I didn't hate it. At first, it bothered me that I didn't hate it. Because, you know, I like to think I'm not an idiot, and I could see everything wrong with this movie. I'm not sure why I don't hate it. Don't get me wrong, I'd never watch again...well, I might if I was changing channels, it was on, and I wasn't finding anything interesting, but that's because I don't hate it. Fun fact: this is one of the movies that if you criticized it, people on social media would swarm you calling you a racist.

[@smguy7]

I've always felt the same. GITS live action is merely a 'girl's own RoboCop'. I'd like to see a real live action GITS with Rinko Kikuchi as the Major.

[@Butcherbg]

Thank you very much for this video. Honestly this does not quite "cut it" and I will share some of why is that. But first things first... I "underestimated you", meaning that my initial thought of comment, outside of overall gratitude, to which I will come to later, is that "Bleeding some of the other media surrounding and mostly following the Original Gits into the Scarlett Johansson movie was inevitable. And I did mean exactly Gits Stand Alone complex where her "growing up" was thoroughly explained. But you did sort of "covered that up" soon after. I think there was a "second", but I forgot it atm, so let`s "cut to the chase". Why am I so grateful? Just yesterday I were attempting to think of which one of which one of those 2 movies to rewatch... the Full Motion Picture Ghost in the Shell (the SJ one) or ~"the latest" Robocop. I just one of those movies. Thing is... I couldn`t decide... Gits is more fresh and I have re watch it at least once and I more or less remember it, even thou there certainly are a few details here and there that will still "do good" to my mind on rewatch. If anything I really do like Scarlett as an actress. My possibly top 3 with her are "The Perfect Score", "Lost in Translation" (that one is overall an incredibly up there movie according to me, not because of her only, but because of Bill Murray as well and what the film presents and depicts as well, timeless it may not be, that particular showcase, but certainly "a foot hold" in the "state of things" it was and in that sense ~is.), Also by having to "research" exactly what the name of "The Perfect Score" was I remembered "Lucy" which I cannot deny also I do like a lot as a movie and it have SJ in it. (name too long to re type every time, in case you wonder). Also one of my "fondest" memories (in case you wonder, which you don`t) is this one time when I randomly saw this girl younger than me that I somewhat know ~at least one I have had "a talk" with her in her "mature stage" (a.k.a. when she was what I acknowledge an adult), walk out of her home (seen from a large distance for my not so good eyes and wondering mind) in what I could only assume was "SJ" roleplay... in terms of (again from a very much distance and with freshly influenced by the movie mind) makeup, hair, clothing. It was like I saw Kusanagi Motoko walk out of there :P. Anyways... The latest Robocop I have seen only once (I have re watched the old ones ~a few times in VHS era and later), what I can "share" about it... is that even thou I saw it in that already "adult" stages of "development" of ~ "myself"... the scene with him being only brain and lungs was one of the top few scariest thing I have seen "on screen" :P Not that it frightens me that much visually, but the overall "concept of it". (however that is not the reason to not re see it). Overall the movie is not bad, but it really isn`t that good (according to me) and I wanted something good. I ended up with a completely no name, random anime movie (not series, movie) Which was very weird and I were distracting myself near the end too much, so it practically was a completely "wasted time"... I saw nothing of the "resolution" in terms of "why the entirety of it was". It was something about I think "mass hypnosis", but I did not quite catch "the purpose" of it if it was explained. I just understood it was the reason of why things up to that point have happened the way they did. But this clip... this clip... is like someone "read my mind"... It more or less "re reviewed" both movies on me and talked on a topic that no one can deny they "arouse" (the movies), by being themselves. That is close to all I've got... I can "peddle in" a bit more Gits trivia... There is at least a few more animated series and I am pretty sure in one of them (if it isn`t actually Stand Alone Complex) which introduces the concept of "Motoko`s main body" "packing too much heat"... Meaning too many organizations were into and ~her being destroyed. So it had some sort of tracking system set to "trigger an alarm" if it ~"boots", so she were walking around in a "slot holder" child`s body... Or I could have just imagined that... But I am pretty sure it`s both... I just do not know which one was first... (probably the animation, most of what we even thinks "we think" is a "remux" of something "imprinted" on us by something ~previous in a different form, or just highlighted enough for it to have been an actual conscious memory, so it "re emerges" as a "day dream" and we think is something that is "out original", but it`s in fact just a continuation in the "grand scheme of things". At least so I think.

[@faridkemyakov2645]

When I saw Ghost in the Shell movie, I was angry too. Because it supposed to explain the merge of Major and AI into single entity. Something similar to Matrix. Instead we got another bad copy of Robocop movie.

[@georgekostaras]

thank you for reminding me that this abysmal movie existed.

[@underthemayo]

Rewatching it for the first time since the premiere, I'd forgotten how boring it mostly is.

[@koojaba5911]

the point of GITS original manga that start in 8.1989 is both Electronic and Physical brain is the same .. that you can edit or delete memory in side it or move from Electronic to Physical brain and vice versa.. that why it is also name : Stand Alone Complex , the end of the GITS show original end at Motoko merge with the New Artificial life forms on the Internet (at that time , if you read SAC 2.0 you get and idea she and that Artificial life forms is not the only one .. we got another thing)... but you need a mini version that want People to get the story in 2 hours , so .. copy RoboCOP is a good idea, hahaha.

[@RetroRanter]

I do like the live action GitS but yeah..with all the cool ideas the manga and 2nd had they went with RoboCopy...damn it 😂😢 Also..MechaBlood looks awesome wtfffff? 😅 Well done Mayo for getting awesome sponsors.

[@underthemayo]

Yeah Im fortunate to land 4 or 5 awesome gaming sponsors per year.

[@RyllenKriel]

I'm a fan of Masamune Shirou, the Ghost in the Shell manga, enjoyed the anime film and series but I still have not seen the live action Hollywood "thing." I also really like the first Robocop. Great video, Hollywood talentless hack writers sure know how to screw up a good story these past 15+ years.

[@horseradishpower9947]

I have always regarded the 2017 film as a Prequel story to Alita Battle Angel.

[@TheJereld]

Makes sense to me. Great video!

[@BRAINALERT]

i am approaching....

[@bearmandev]

I appreciate that you actually went and watched all the GiTS stuff for the video. Do you have a favorite SAC episode?

[@underthemayo]

Hands down The Major's backstory episode. One of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen.

[@bearmandev]

@@underthemayo Good choice.

[@ΓρηγόρηςΡάλλης-ψ3ι]

Robocop is heavily inspired by 8th Man (same origin story) and Japanese tokusatsu (Uchû Keiji Gyaban). Still Robo is one my favorite movies.

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Robot Man by Jerry Siegel predate 8th man by more than two decades

[@TokyoXtreme]

…but what if I were to purchase Ghost in the Shell and disguise it as my own Robocop? Ho ho ho, delightfully devilish, four guys who wrote this movie.

[@ab_shootin]

incredible work mayo....how many hats is that. doom guy. mk when it was good guy. robocop guy. survial horror guy. now i got some rewatchin to do

[@underthemayo]

Thanks so much. Don't forget god of war!

[@Blind_Hawk]

Huh... Now I know why I was so confused watching the GiTS "Remake"

[@SIRDINKADERPA]

And the 80s classic fist of thenorthstar inspired street fighter and mortal kombat

[@mr.sapristi3148]

At least someone adresses this. The reason why fans of both Ghost in the shell (the movie) and Robocop hated this movie.

[@AlbiDartanan]

1:37 "if your only fan of the anime or 1989 manga .... you essentially know nothing about her backstory " Le me : wait a moment , i watched GIS series ... there is a "lot" about her backstorie in the series (how she did get her first cyberbodie Ep11 S2) ... Ok you mentioned it ....

[@underthemayo]

I did! I knew I had to make sure to look at everything before making this.

[@98Lubo]

Basically every classic hardcore anime from the mid 80s through late 90s is "inspired" by something American or European. I don"t say it with any venom either, the Japanese made unbelievable stuff, but it"s mostly all taken from Blade Runner, Judge Dredd/2000AD, Mœbius/Heavy Metal magazine, Elric of Melniboné, John Carpenter and beyond

[@underthemayo]

This goes FAR beyond inspiration. The GITS manga is "inspired". The 2017 movie is blatantly ripping off and copy scene after scene.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

i think everyone can agree the show has the perfect major who is a mix of the manga and the movie

[@relhimp]

Finally! Someone who cares enough (unlike me) to make a video notices that GITS movie is Robocop in a skirt basically.

[@mobinauwu]

Im definitely gonna watch that series. And This is one of your funniest videos 😂

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Ghost in the shell 95 is one of my favorite moviee of all time. Gits american movie however, misses a huge amoint of the point, if not all of the point. The robocop cribbing is just too blatant.

[@vulcanraven7013]

Great video! I personally didn't like the live-action adaptation/remake of Ghost in the Shell at all. I felt like it was very shallow compared to the original and it's sequel. Aside from the fact that this movie's setting looks and feels like a generic sci-fi, while the originals were retro-futuristic ("Innocence" was even more retro-futuristic on purpose), this "remake" has no philosophical depth, no thought provoking themes, no interesting world-building... All in all, this movie feels like it "steals" all the most creative and striking imagery from the originals, without ever eraning it.

[@foxdie1001]

I cut my knuckles on my coffee table while watching the American adaptation. 💀

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

watching the GTS movie was okay but man Scarlet Johansson makes anything worth watching

[@DJRaverTeddy]

Even their police uniforms are the same with the high collar look and vest front.

[@benoxiid]

Must say: It's soo nice to see a sponsorship that's not a crappy f2p, but an actually real game xD (Which looks nice !)

[@underthemayo]

Yeah I had it as an offer for a full review and while I thought it was cool, I didn't have enough to say for it to be a full 8-20 minute breakdown. It's just a cool little game shooting mechs. So I pitched them the idea of the opening spot of my Ghost In The Shell video since it's got the futuristic robot theme and they agreed. Worked out nicely and the ad was pretty fun to make.