Robot wars | Fault Lines

[@aljazeeraenglish]

Hello from the Al Jazeera Fault Lines team - let's keep the comments here pertinent to the episode and please no off-topic or offensive comments or personal attacks.

[@armourdaddy805]

@AlJazeeraEnglish great job aljazeera.please include more coverage of pakistan and afghanistan.this issue is so important to most of us

[@mick7sp]

We are doing great job at creating intelligent machines to fight our battles, now if we could just create some intelligent politicians to run our countries.. We would not need to spend all the effort and money on the tech toys.

[@thejuicemedia]

great report - thanks AJ. (PS. Who is the female interviewee? She should be heading the robot programme)

[@6417893265q784256128]

Glitches or bugs in artificial intelligence are really difficult to predict , so this is really a dilemma of the autonomous systems when get very complex , self awareness is one possibility , because nobody knows what self awareness is or how is developed . So this glitch you talking about is called terminator for me the chance exists .

[@thejuicemedia]

9:10 "the barriers to war in our society are already being lowered. Now we have a technology that literally take those barriers to the ground" - good times ahead!?

[@Uhmu]

There is no doubt in my mind that there will be a Data, a Lore and even a Borg, the question is only when not whether. It boils down to adapting to the new reality not trying to stop it. Law and rules will follow as the number of precedents goes up.

[@mirageiii3176]

It's a sad world we live in,bro.

[@cedricruffin7154]

Facts!!

[@ChristopherScottCampbell]

Excellent presentation... I was hopping it would have a second part...

[@Beavereaver]

just think in the 50s things like this were only dreams and in such a short time they have become reall. i think that a human element should always be required to use drones to attack, make everything else automatic just not that part. i think that is the best safety feature that we can put on drones.

[@Urhoboman5]

23:28 That is a very true statement. But how would we as human beings go about shutting down those two institutions? Especially considering the fact so many people not only benefit from both but they have their behavior so ingrained into War and Capitalism.

[@fukgovernment]

I missed the good old days like Achilles vs Hector

[@nito105]

I agree with you whole heartedly, however courage has a price; casualties

[@richiexp2]

If humanity continue to walk this path of spend all it's money in building weapons rather than solving problems like poverty; one day this world will eat itself up.

[@SchlimmShadySmash]

amazing words in the end...

[@Nino_J]

@AlJazeeraEnglish Thanks for the vid, I like military stuff

[@Lizhong093]

I am sure that robot shall dominate the world in the future.

[@IIIFrenchyIII]

What an appallingly simple hypothesis, "The robots are gonna be smarter than us!" It requires the right roots, the right knowledge to grow into something great. Robots are clearly another medium of Human thought and we ALWAYS loose information through mediums.

[@TahaNasser]

This report was fine until the 'experts' started telling us that robots will be smarter than us. Its true that in terms of pure processing power and data access, machines may be able to out perform most people, but in reality this isn't intelligence. Intelligence is based upon problem solving, and fundamentally self consciousness. The notion that we can create a robotic brain that excels our own when we don't even understand how our own works is absurd. Robots will never be smarter than us.

[@TheRustAdmin]

what was the white walking robot they featured in this short film?

[@VioletDeliriums]

casualties deter wars...perhaps we need more of them so people will figure out that violence sucks

[@OMorningStar]

How do I get training to be one of the people using these things?

[@yankeegohome4418]

Killing others from a safe distance is always cowardly ,imagine a boxing match where one stood in the ring and the other only pressed buttons controlling a robot

[@sigmaoctantis_nz]

Nek minute, Terminator.

[@mailhoax]

I wrote my comment before seeing the video, but it is awsome that they are telling the same as me...

[@tekkenfan01]

yeah we'll get right on that

[@TheLolthazun]

Terminators by 2050 :D Does this mean that robots should then be given equal rights to humans, tried under an equal rule of law if they eventually do possess individual autonomy and intelligence? Technology solves problems but seems to create so much more.

[@mbirrell100]

We should keep progressing with robotic technology. When artificial intelligence is superior to human intelligence it will be able to work out a solution to human cultural differences other than using violence. Although we are smart creatures, we seem to deny the fact we will ultimately descend to our primitive impulses to resolve a problem... which is violence. Lacking these primitive survival impulses that override reason, artificial intelligence will provide us with ethical answers.

[@kolinmartz]

I prefer my war with people dying. It emphasizes the cost of victory more and pushes for better leadership in the battlefield. It's one thing to play chess with your robot toys it's more prestigious to send in flesh and blood mortals. A sweeter victory indeed.

[@searcher619]

This technology has profound implications for our unmanned space program as well.

[@ChangingPak]

Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan will also have access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well-being as well as military clout

[@Nazzdaq]

Diaz likes this!!! WAR DIAZ

[@SRW65]

Smith n Wesson Drones - the new point and click ...

[@sethzky77]

2012, the year of the terminator. Hopefully it'll turn on it's creators and leave the general population alone.

[@treetooone]

This shows how important WikiLeaks is!

[@armourdaddy805]

@timigaguy you have such a beautiful country new zealand

[@NPJGlobal]

I , Robot ? For REAL? You MUST be kidding me.... (ಠ.ಠ)

[@pedrolopes4792]

This is SPACE FORCE !!

[@Morocco_Mo]

Holy crap, there is actually a company named iRobot. I thought it was just a movie.

[@ricci1007]

''We have more in common with the Iraqi people than we do the billionaires who send us to war'' - Mike Prysner

[@OscarOliverah]

@xjehadix Your comment makes me realize that just maybe this oparation is aiming to increase the taliban numbers, not the oposite, just think about it, If the increase, well we will have more confrontation, hence more war, hence more money for the military. Do you agree?

[@CFCID]

at 16:09, is that girl assuming that in the future when people view this video people will think those earrings are fashionable?

[@laurencedemello]

What is the music theme at the opening please?

[@BLAKizLurKin]

I was going to comment about that. The theme song sounds good

[@obieelibya77]

I luv aje

[@Jazzaconda]

I forgot the "'D*mb Fu*k! at the end of that", Good luck, ya's need it!

[@callofdutyMW250]

As anyone that knows programing will tell you computers will never think they will never be smart. That's not how they work.

[@YourCritic]

Will all these robots be 'un-hackable'? Is it even possible to build a system that can't be compromised? What happens if the enemy takes control of these systems and either captures them or even turns them against their original controllers? It looks like it's already been done - case in point is highly credible claims that the Iranians captured a US drone.

[@sidhu66]

Rita J King is hot!!!!

[@ShadowFlipsy]

until Judgement day when the machines rise

[@MrPuiulamiba]

Yeah, not so sweet when you are the pawn and not so good when you, flesh and blood, are playing chess against a very very good computer.

[@ohnzee]

175 children... that alone will not justify all of these.

[@xjehadix]

At least 80% of those killed in tribal areas of Pakistan are innocent civilians, whose relatives then turn into militants. For every civilian killed by a drone strike, 10 more sign up for the Taliban. When the drone strikes started back in 2004 there were less than 5000 Taliban in the region. Now after the death of thousands of people in drone attacks, there are over 20,000 Taliban in the region.

[@DoodiGoogi]

What is the name of sound track starting @ 3:56 ..?

[@Craig123Glover]

the new era will look like terminator 2 lol

[@juanbaca81]

Here's an idea: What if we had a war in which robots fought eachother, total number of robots lost in the battle field tallied, then real humans put in gas chambers and killed to simulate the loss? Great idea if ask me !

[@Fuggl]

@Gormanmod I wouldn't call a robot that simply follows routines "intelligent", but that may be a question of definition..

[@TahaNasser]

@alfredaskeljung I see your point, but personally I still disagree with the premise that robots will ever be smarter than us. Despite the fact that we can image the brain better than before, at a fundamental level we don't really know how a billion to the billion binary connections can produce consciousness. And I suspect that we never will, simply because of the sheer complexity of the issue. I'm a med student and the thing that strikes me when studying neurology is how little we know.

[@Versus1984]

@Djecho1109 Should men engage in warfare is a philosophical question. My point is, that military robots wont make warfare any more barbaric or murderous that it already is, and that there are true horrors of war that jourlanist should shed light upon. Instead, they try to catch the viewer's attention by some fancy sci-fi topic such as "Military robots". Its pretty much a hype. The theme is far LESS deserving attention than the media try to stirr about it.

[@qwasd0r]

How many more Apple product shots can you fit in a docu?

[@ECMONEYBOYZ561]

truth!

[@Fuggl]

robots as smart as humans? I don't think they know how complicated the human brain is.. We're far from that.

[@searcher619]

@datworkers : This is the price of war. War is supposed to be ugly.

[@Jazzaconda]

Thats a Strange comment. do u work for Alex Jones?

[@23ord]

War is a Racket General Smedely Butler

[@Beavereaver]

the brits have robots too buddy, infact u have the same exact kind we do lol.

[@Beavereaver]

just think without 9/11 we wouldnt have this much technology rite now and we wouldnt have to worie about robots that could kill us in our sleep.

[@randygardener]

until the EMP barrier wars begin.

[@searcher619]

@djorkid : Actually the Fed holds the majority of US debt. China is just the largest foreign holders of US debt.

[@wildcatnip]

Cylons! 2012

[@Valium762]

@searcher619 We need to have a space program first.

[@logicboy99]

Where you at robots?

[@mrclarkson3812]

Uncle Sam's tech will dominate all.........................

[@mrhenry7775]

Fault lines proudly sponsored by apple...ridiculous...

[@xjehadix]

Figures of Civilian deaths are distorted, drones cannot differentiate between militants and civilians, all armed men are not necessarily Taliban. It is a culture in the wazirstan region to carry weapons at all times, can a drone differentiate between a Taliban armed with an ak-47 and a local tribesman armed with an ak-47? The answer is no.

[@blackhawk42x]

Sounds like the IRobot move... : /

[@pixelspring]

Coming to American Homeland in 2012. So F'd Up.

[@rtCirkus]

And then man created Geth.

[@tekkenfan01]

change takes time, you want quick fixes and easy answers, we'll there aren't any

[@armourdaddy805]

we are trying to build robots who can hurt us and we want them to be smarter than us.tell me what makes us smarter then computers,even birds are wiser then us.they make nests high on trees so as to save their young.lets all get togather and put an end to this madness .lets include more people in decisions of life dont tack people out of equation.and give it to piece of metal n wires.

[@importinsider]

I say we spend all of the military based money instead on Rita J. King love bot.

[@Morocco_Mo]

@1976Bukkits Drones for Peace, Scary Charts, Morality Pills - New World Next Week. Ya, look at the new drones in the beginning of this vid. Search for Drones for Peace, Scary Charts, Morality Pills - New World Next Week on this site.

[@sahandn9]

Really? Putting a slow, low pitch, scary background music?

[@KOKZ95]

wow I always thought Al Jazeera was some Propaganda Stuff... but this report is pretty awesome!

[@ElectroCannibal]

The future is here....

[@Luvinist]

Skynet is coming!!!

[@callofdutyMW250]

If our brains were so simple we could understand them we would be so simple we wouldn't be able to. Something simler may aply to computers.

[@MosinManiac76254]

Probably wouldn't be a glitch... Most likely a video game nerd on a power trip.

[@Jazzaconda]

Only if your a Nieve! And Slow! (thats a given).

[@armourdaddy805]

@DivineMoleculeDMT when we try our time machine

[@Microslipp]

911 = Drones

[@IjustWorkHere3]

Ohhh please

[@timigaguy]

@armourdaddy805 thank you. and i am sure under and behind the media picture your country is much more buietiful than my own

[@Jabekun]

hmm,. so what happens when man becomes machine? because some scientists believe that man's next evolution is for us to upgrade our physical body. to transfer our consciousness into some sort of avatar,. as to emove man's ultimate problem,. aging/death. dunno if you have heard about the 2045 movement. so if we become machines ourselves then the whole concept of man being in the loop as to control or decide wether machine can or what not is irrelevant. because man and machine would be one?

[@kahlschlag17]

And Americans claim zyclon b is despicable.

[@dell1940]

No one can Beat the Afgans keep trying just look @ History

[@yankeegohome4418]

Ok picture this scenario ,a drone attack on NY ??? different thing now isnt it ,no difference at all in my book ,in fact more deserved

[@haroldvonhelms8304]

remember war all lose, the only way to win is not to fight a war, let the rich do it

[@timigaguy]

@willythewildwino i don't think you know what it is to live behind a shield.

[@timigaguy]

oh and they should at least replace the taliban with something that might even just work pls?...to keep aje happy drones should stop at surveillance

[@derisme1987]

16:00 robots are fucking awesome