Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro Full Review! BEST OPTICAL SWITCHES?!

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@ya4l688
@ya4l688 4 жыл бұрын
The grind is serious Bro I’m gonna buy the dark hoodie it’s so sick
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Doooo ittttt! I love it maneee
@kurapan779
@kurapan779 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one today and I really like it so far. It would have been great if it was PBT instead of ABS as I can see some stains but the keycaps feel pretty good anyway.
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@dimitrismpouloumpasis8854
@dimitrismpouloumpasis8854 2 жыл бұрын
The white version is very clean so for me white keyboards are good for me
@crisisza4133
@crisisza4133 4 жыл бұрын
Its a dope keyboard bro and good review on it keep up the good work
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LynxEng
@LynxEng 3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine today and I love it. Looks amazing, lighting is awesome especially the intelligent effect which reacts to key presses, keys feel nice and sound nice. The amazing thing though is how responsive it is. I've had blue switches then reds and then found my jam with browns but I really like the linear feel on this keyboard. Genuinely impressed and I've had every keyboard going
@jamesdixon6903
@jamesdixon6903 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have a USB passthrough to plug mouse into?
@LynxEng
@LynxEng 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdixon6903 nope, just the USB C input
@fabiankapp6594
@fabiankapp6594 3 жыл бұрын
Are you already having those problems with the keys aren't responding? Want to get this keyboard but the reviews are still making me humble
@LynxEng
@LynxEng 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabiankapp6594 those problems? What problems? I still love it and have no issues
@fabiankapp6594
@fabiankapp6594 3 жыл бұрын
@@LynxEng There are problems with the non pro version that after some time the keys stop working like they should. But glad that this still didn’t happen to you, hope it won’t start anytime. I think I‘ll buy it too. Thanks for the response
@dealwithblizz5312
@dealwithblizz5312 4 жыл бұрын
roccat should make their own keycaps imo.
@simPL306
@simPL306 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, that would be cool
@nospas5860
@nospas5860 4 жыл бұрын
6:52 he is using his spacebar with his index finger
@Plat19876
@Plat19876 4 жыл бұрын
I saw it too. My keyboarding teacher would faint
@Ben_72
@Ben_72 4 жыл бұрын
@@Plat19876 keyboard teacher lmao?
@BoogieSpiderman
@BoogieSpiderman 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a follow up on this. I keep reading issues and no one is making a video of it. Issues such as fading key caps and oily etc.
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because they are ABS and not PBT like I was saying they *should* be in the video
@codename8942
@codename8942 4 жыл бұрын
Now even though I wanted a very fast keyboard the force for the razer huntsman wasn't comfortable for me and the apex pro felt cheap in my opinion so I decided to get the vulcan because of the speed and feeling
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty nice! I definitely think it's a good option and the easiest to use between the three
@codename8942
@codename8942 4 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech definitely 👍
@rxckyiskuul6829
@rxckyiskuul6829 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people complain about the cable being on the right? If it is and you are using a coiled cable, why don't you just flip the cable since it's a type C connector? I mean isn't it the same as having it on the left then? IMO I think middle is the worst.
@pallet9318
@pallet9318 4 жыл бұрын
already liked i just know this finna be fire
@smokeyjo7420
@smokeyjo7420 4 жыл бұрын
totally finna 🙄
@lucutes2936
@lucutes2936 2 жыл бұрын
Finna hip with the trend yo
@swingsmash
@swingsmash 2 жыл бұрын
wow.. ur sound test its amazing, soo clear
@nanohedron
@nanohedron 2 жыл бұрын
OK. What do you think? Tactile or linear?
@CalebThornton
@CalebThornton 4 жыл бұрын
Merch is looking great Kile!
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Caleb!
@Fwhurst
@Fwhurst 4 жыл бұрын
I’m already content with my huntmen mini with reds so I’m gonna stick to that might get a Vulcan pro eventually great vid
@CriticalPosthumanism
@CriticalPosthumanism 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me why cable on the right would be a big "nono"? Because i have my PC on the right side of the desk and im happy the cable of the keyboard isnt on the left side.
@chrismendez7976
@chrismendez7976 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I already bought this keyboard last 4 or 5 times I watched your review on it. I just watched it again because I was thinking about getting a custom keyboard and needed a sound test on video so I could compare. Not only does it sound better than those custom keyboards but I learned how to actually change the rgb by watching this. Keep up the great work!
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad I could help, Roccat did an excellent job with this board!
@davidl8411
@davidl8411 2 жыл бұрын
what is the speed of when you press a key it registers
@hoppebold0237
@hoppebold0237 3 жыл бұрын
How much is the switch force?
@Hellijazz
@Hellijazz 2 жыл бұрын
Roccat Vulcan or razer huntsman V2 Wich one should I get if only want the keyboard for playing Fortnite ? Great video!!!
@ИвенИванов-ъ4я
@ИвенИванов-ъ4я 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. There is still not Vulcan PRO in my country, and i can`t decide either to wait for it or to get Vulcan 121 with linear switches. Is it a big difference between 121 and PRO, in terms of speed? Main difference is the switches, and i don`t know if its even worth it to wait and give + more just for the switches. Whats your take ?
@hypeboy5946
@hypeboy5946 4 жыл бұрын
Is the force needed same with gateron reds like 45g? If so, is this prone to mistyping due to the switch being very light?
@itsanthonyha1410
@itsanthonyha1410 3 жыл бұрын
how do you turn it back on even when it’s plugged in.
@v3lonic713
@v3lonic713 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro aswell but my stabilizers dont sound this good. Can the reason be that i have the german layout?
@Hallow_vrYT
@Hallow_vrYT Жыл бұрын
How did you get the white?
@peakx
@peakx 4 жыл бұрын
Actuation force ? What’s the bottom out distance on apex pro it’s 4mm
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
3.6mm
@oliverfidelman4133
@oliverfidelman4133 3 жыл бұрын
So would you prefer this keyboard, or the steelseries tkl pro?
@malinyamato
@malinyamato 2 жыл бұрын
how to use this for non gaming ... for programming and text editing?
@proguard6458
@proguard6458 6 ай бұрын
Great Tutorial😇 I have Roccat magma rn and it has the Roccat swarm app does that work on this keyboard? btw U just got a new sub👍
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 3 жыл бұрын
How do you pull off the keycaps? I have tried, but just can't get them off. It feels like I am going to break the keyboard if I pull any harder than I do, but I tend to be quite gentle with tech.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get your key caps off without breakage? I tried to remove the right arrow key but I was pulling with fingers and not a key puller. I gave up before I applied way too much pressure.
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Yes, I don't have a keycap puller, but I used a piece of string to make a makeshift one. The keycaps are really hard to get off the first time, but nothing broke as long as I pulled firmly and wiggled a little. Edit: A good tip is to start with a key you never use, like the END key or one close to that.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
@@HenrikMyrhaug Smart!
@josephcayao5760
@josephcayao5760 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, def want to buy this keyboard now! Earned yourself a sub!
@Thomas-fk6ep
@Thomas-fk6ep 4 жыл бұрын
This looks great, but does it have a usb passthrough?
@garethg8226
@garethg8226 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@greensabr200
@greensabr200 4 жыл бұрын
When you talk about the huntsman and how easy it is to miss press, are you referring to the optomechanical purple switches or the linear red switches that come with the keyboard?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
Both
@lucburns6662
@lucburns6662 4 жыл бұрын
great vid ,nice gob, keep up the grind!!!
@vladivanescu4897
@vladivanescu4897 3 жыл бұрын
I just found out your chanel and i wanna say that the review its so well made. Great job. Keep it up !
@nikandjack
@nikandjack 4 жыл бұрын
Good review on the keeb. However, did the swarm software worked well when you used it? I purchased the mechanical version, but had to return it because I could not get the software to work consistently.
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had no issues, but were you sure to install the updates after opening the software? Maybe that was it potentially
@nikandjack
@nikandjack 4 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech Yeah brother I did update. I even uninstall and re-install, but to no avail. Anyways thanks for the response and keep those reviews coming as they are informative and enjoyable to watch.
@gustavsrensen7354
@gustavsrensen7354 3 жыл бұрын
So you can use fx ducky keycaps on it?
@FightinSmurf
@FightinSmurf Жыл бұрын
How do you printscreen on this keyboard?Anybody knows?
@jimbrown341
@jimbrown341 Жыл бұрын
Hold down the FN key and press the Insert button it looks like. It says Print screen on the insert button.
@FightinSmurf
@FightinSmurf Жыл бұрын
@@jimbrown341 neah.i found out.actually is windows key + FN and Ins(prt scr)
@mexicocityracing4180
@mexicocityracing4180 4 жыл бұрын
So is the bottom out a shorter distance or longer ?
@aidanolman3734
@aidanolman3734 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m either going to buy the new ducky keyboard coming out soon (mecha ocean sf) or this. Which is better? Are there any others at this price point or below that are better?
@TheKapuzina
@TheKapuzina 3 жыл бұрын
I saw so many reviews saying ,that the foil will tear apart pretty soon - can anyone confirm that?
@imcoolman8611
@imcoolman8611 4 жыл бұрын
Can't find another pbt keycap for this product?
@don9731
@don9731 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Mom I want a Lamar Mom: we have a Lamar at home The Lamar at home:
@ameerkhattar2821
@ameerkhattar2821 4 жыл бұрын
What should i pick the asus vg279qm or vg259qm ? Please answer
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference the screen size? I mean that’s up to you if you prefer 25 or 27 inch
@shanus11
@shanus11 3 жыл бұрын
awesome, just ordered this. £110 in the UK right now. my Razer Black WidowTournament Chroma was nice for a couple years but the keys kept popping off, then the W key had to be replaced, then my space bar broke. I look after it but these razor keys/switches are really bad.
@spike178
@spike178 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for Amazon discount too not paying £150.
@itzderin1387
@itzderin1387 4 жыл бұрын
where is your mousepad from?
@notcake8745
@notcake8745 3 жыл бұрын
What do you reccomend? I'm lookinf for a keybaortd and deciding between razer huntsman mini with reds or this roccat. Huntsman is on sale for $139 AUD and t5he Roccat is on sale for $1169 AUD? What is your opinion. (Leaning towards the Roccat tho because of them stabs!)
@notcake8745
@notcake8745 3 жыл бұрын
OOPs i meant 169 AUD
@flamey8270
@flamey8270 Жыл бұрын
How to turn on and of light
@malinyamato
@malinyamato 2 жыл бұрын
difference between this and MX brown? which one do u like the most??
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not MX Browns haha, and to your other comment, it’s a keyboard so it works fine. Just depends on if you need the arrow keys or not
@WallStreet749
@WallStreet749 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible? Can the optical switches be swapped out later on for mechanical switches or are you stuck with the optical?
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Optical, all the way, They are soldered onto the base board.
@xhurq7654
@xhurq7654 4 жыл бұрын
What is that mouse pad?
@arth7166
@arth7166 4 жыл бұрын
Which Keycaps I Should Go For These Keyboard?
@majorassault5074
@majorassault5074 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, what flagship optical keyboard would you choose? The k100, this, or the huntsman elite/ mini, or the gk61? Personally, I like the k100 and the gk 61, but this may replace the k100 if it is good enough.
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Well I wouldn't pick the K100 because it's too big. But... I'm not sure . I like them all for different reasons. The Apex Pro I like the novelties but I hate the keycaps, the Huntsman just feels kinda cheap. And I think the Vulcan is the most balanced of the three and it has detachable usb-C so.... Imma say the Vulcan😀
@majorassault5074
@majorassault5074 4 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech for me size isn’t a issue, and I heard the apex pro feels like crap. I like this keyboard, I just really want white peripherals which makes it hard. If only ducky had optical boards lol....
3 жыл бұрын
@@majorassault5074 The Vulcan TKL Pro is also avaliable in white. ;)
@RattlyLace
@RattlyLace 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the mouse pad that looks like topography map from?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Randomfrank P x NovelKeys mousepad
@SwrdFn
@SwrdFn 4 жыл бұрын
Is it faster than apex?
@Crab.Ragoon
@Crab.Ragoon 3 жыл бұрын
This vs the G915, what would you rather use?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer this over the G915
@nlingrel
@nlingrel 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Roccat Vulccan AIMO 100 about 2 years ago. The W key started intermittently failing and now the ALT key doesn't work at all. There's no possible way I pushed ALT over 50 million times so buyer beware for the long term with these keyboards. I love them when they are brand new, but the durability just isn't there.
@spike178
@spike178 2 жыл бұрын
Just like any other brand not built to last others can be a lot worse though.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
This is not a mechanical keyboard like the Vulcan 100. Optical has double the keypress life, although any keyboard can have issues. It's not indicative of the brand.
@xharborx
@xharborx 3 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time deciding between this or the apex pro(+PDT caps) mostly interested in performance. I mainly play csgo.
@xxx-xp5ge
@xxx-xp5ge 3 жыл бұрын
I’d go for apex pro tkl, I did and everything added together with what I want from gaming it sways more towards the apex, and you have the same performance on it ie actuation & feel when you customise the stock key caps with puddings or the new Phantom keycaps from razor, which makes this keyboard so fucking nice man, you won’t be disappointed
@cristiant6566
@cristiant6566 4 жыл бұрын
They keep moving the dates back. Was oct now nov now one retailer is saying dec. Sigh. Did nvidia buy roccat
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@lukenuke4757
@lukenuke4757 3 жыл бұрын
hes a who from grinch isnt he??
@xiraijuakara5988
@xiraijuakara5988 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone with the tkl pro here? i got the standard vulcan 122 atm but having some keying issues such as some keys are skipping or not registering or sometimes double keying. I belive this is down to swarm or windows however but idk for sure. was wandering if its worth getting this sincei was looking at a tkl anyway
@JR-to8sn
@JR-to8sn 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue and contacted Roccat and they told me "unfortunately, this indicates a malfunction of the switches under the affected buttons" so unfortunately I was past the 1 year warranty so the keyboard ended up in the trash. THAT is why they need to make these and all gaming keyboards have hot swappable buttons.
@xiraijuakara5988
@xiraijuakara5988 2 жыл бұрын
@@JR-to8sn Yeah. Im actually now associated with roccat and we have a discord server if your interested.
@JoshTechgamer
@JoshTechgamer 4 жыл бұрын
great review gave a like wow Merch hmmm very nice love the desk pad. :)😃
@Saloscapter
@Saloscapter 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you had tried to switch out all the keys. I am currently typing on the roccat vulcan tkl pro and I wanted to know if i switched to a different keycap set, just how different it would feel and if it is worth it
@jacksonperrin7077
@jacksonperrin7077 4 жыл бұрын
Can regular keycaps work on the vulcan pro tkl
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda, but rewatch the keycap part and you can see the difference between different caps because it changes the bottom out
@jacksonperrin7077
@jacksonperrin7077 4 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech so can it still be a great gaming experience with other keycaps?
@RyanM-gc4og
@RyanM-gc4og 3 жыл бұрын
when my machine wakes from sleep with this keyboard it registers a bunch of keypresses at the pin screen.
@koldfire1917
@koldfire1917 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Too Much Tech > JayzTwoCents
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly - I feel like me and him are mostly on the same page, I’ve been watching him for years 🤣
@spike178
@spike178 2 жыл бұрын
Great thanks waiting on a good discount on this keyboard.
@instinct7390
@instinct7390 4 жыл бұрын
Hi friend I like very much your videos I am from Mexico and I would like you to give your opinion on the mouse vazee zygen np-01
@iexoticdemon2079
@iexoticdemon2079 4 жыл бұрын
Is review for the new steelseries mouse coming or nah
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you KNOW it is, I gotta see if imma main it or not lol
@iexoticdemon2079
@iexoticdemon2079 4 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech model o competitor
@stvn2silly
@stvn2silly 3 жыл бұрын
Does any one know if you can change out the key caps
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
yes, you can change out the key caps to any Cherry MX type.
@dadeltanik2782
@dadeltanik2782 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ...and great keyboard 👌
@diannesmith3015
@diannesmith3015 4 жыл бұрын
Get this or apex pro tkl?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
I personally think this is a better deal, but the Apex pro is just as good, I would decide based on what you think looks more comfortable to type and game on
@kevinpaterson6052
@kevinpaterson6052 3 жыл бұрын
Like your review , cheers
@gradym7750
@gradym7750 3 жыл бұрын
can you try the hyperx alloy orgins core
@SpikyEaredPichu911
@SpikyEaredPichu911 4 жыл бұрын
Does it have any case ping?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
A tiny little bit, but with a desk mat, it's not even noticable at all and in regular use, I didn't notice it either
@bion2884
@bion2884 3 жыл бұрын
level on keyboard tierlist?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
I would put it in like.... the B+ tier. Not quite A, but at the top level of the B tier, just because the keycaps aren’t PBT and kinda weird to attempt to replace
@bion2884
@bion2884 3 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech okay, thank you for the quick answer!
@Shaxx0_0458
@Shaxx0_0458 4 жыл бұрын
I came for the keyboard, but gosh dang it that merch is actually 🔥
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
👀
@isaakcortes3915
@isaakcortes3915 4 жыл бұрын
Sick board man those stabs surprised me tbh and it sounds pretty good too btw tkl is a 80% not a 75% great vid anyways !
@r25an
@r25an 4 жыл бұрын
This keyboard looks sick! I moght cop one you know what im sayin'
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
It ain’t badddd
@unrealzebra3662
@unrealzebra3662 3 жыл бұрын
I did
@edi4457
@edi4457 4 жыл бұрын
Mans grows beard faster than the people who pre-ordered PS5 and the 30 series 💀
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@mexicocityracing4180
@mexicocityracing4180 4 жыл бұрын
What is the bottom out distance compared to the fnatic streak65 ? Im trying to decide between fnatic or roccat
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Activation at 1.4mm, distance to bottom 3.6mm.
@_noTroll
@_noTroll 2 жыл бұрын
good review. you‘re really nice
@JonWhitfield5150
@JonWhitfield5150 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
Thats Bruva, see you in the AM!
@gl2swe789
@gl2swe789 4 жыл бұрын
I want this becuase it looks really easy to clean
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
This keyboard in black is now $99 and the white version is $97.
@natehammondtrio
@natehammondtrio 3 жыл бұрын
Making the rounds to all the video reviews of this product to tell people they do not ship[ replacement keys to the USA. Paint chipped after 7 months of light use on the J key and I am left with no way to get a new one according to the customer support. They were rude as well.
@MoltenValo
@MoltenValo 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content Kile!
@cyan_bot3152
@cyan_bot3152 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the keyboards were wireless
@codeski_
@codeski_ 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing putting off are the shiny keycaps😪
@sadbully9656
@sadbully9656 3 жыл бұрын
The dark hoodie is cool😎😎
@cyzte105
@cyzte105 3 жыл бұрын
finally, someone who types like me, i thought i was the only one
@Proxymated
@Proxymated 3 жыл бұрын
You missed something very important. Spill water on it. Tell me how good it does at not breaking.
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. No. Lol
@alfiqhar
@alfiqhar 3 жыл бұрын
Where is numpad?
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
“TKL” Tenkeyless - there is a full sized version tho.
@alfiqhar
@alfiqhar 3 жыл бұрын
why there is a non-full size tho, it ain't for a notebook
@sauravsubramanian1413
@sauravsubramanian1413 4 жыл бұрын
Are the stabs on varmillo boards better in your opinion
@pattar0621
@pattar0621 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck it gonna get the fbatic keyboard 65% with 1mm silent red seitsches
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the fnatic one? I have that too hahaaaa
@pattar0621
@pattar0621 4 жыл бұрын
The bew one?
@iWinki
@iWinki 2 жыл бұрын
got one today and it is pretty good but the stabs on the shift key are super rattly and mushy way harder to press than other stab keys w
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Might have received a lemon. The shift isn't rattly, nor mushy, nor way harder to press. Again, you might have received a bad one.
@StopaskingformynameYouTube
@StopaskingformynameYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
row-cat?
@stvn2silly
@stvn2silly 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m going to buy this good review
@TooMuchTech
@TooMuchTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m sure you’ll like it!
@stvn2silly
@stvn2silly 3 жыл бұрын
@@TooMuchTech your welcome keep up the good work 🙏🙏
@amverypro831
@amverypro831 4 жыл бұрын
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@knocks420
@knocks420 4 жыл бұрын
how is it?
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@user7kebvfj 4 жыл бұрын
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