Rock Hudson's ex-wife talked about Marc Christian,Larry King reflected on Phyllis Gates

combination of video clips from: LARRY KING LIVE 25 Anniversary CNN 1/6: • LARRY KING LIVE 25 Ann... and ROCK HUDSON'S EX-WIFE, PHYLLIS GATES - LARRY KING LIVE, 2003 (381): • Video . Thanks to the original uploaders.Only to highlight the contradictory personality of these people.

[@tinarossie7443]

I saw a Showtime documentary called "Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood" recently and I purchase the book called "Full Service" which the Showtime piece was based. Scotty Bowers was the pimp to the stars and in his book, he said Rock was totally gay and that Phyllis was 100% lesbian. Also, Phyllis boss and Rock's agent, Henry Willson was also gay and he arranged for Phyllis and Rock's fake marriage. There are several chapters in the book outlining the steps the studio had taken to fool the public and what lengths everyone took to protect Rock's career. Somebody is lying and I think it is Phyllis because when the showtime piece and the book came out Scotty was put under the microscope. Fortunately for him, he had lots of proof as to the authenticity of his claims. Ask Phyllis if she ever re-married-the answer is NO. Not to another man anyway. Phyllis died in 2006 and I'm convinced she was 100% complicit in Rock's deception.

[@Themanwhocameback2]

Rock married his agent's secretary, Michael Jackson married his plastic surgeon's secretary. Both stars were gay. Phyllis has in this interview a perpetually panic stricken look. There used to be a common phrase in circulation: "gay panic". Phyllis seems to embody that. I'm sure she and Rock were both homosexual.

[@redcloud8444]

I have another take on this. I think the reason why she wasn't able to get some of that Rock stash after their divorce was because their marriage was just an arrangement. She knew from the start that Rock was gay and till today she was trying to weave truth and lies together.

[@1justice2012]

I watched the interview and thought she did really well, what did Larry expected?

[@leczorn]

I agree, I found her very talkative and likable! Larry must have her confused with someone else!

[@thepamela050]

What was Larry expecting from her..Maybe he's the one with the problem.

[@jacquelinelarsen1721]

She seemed like a wonderful and honest lady. I thought she was very interesting and inciteful.

[@gregghanson6095]

she was dumb as a post.

[@heathercrumpler5353]

She was old and bitter. She was tired. She was not young and radiant anymore. She was honest, she loved and adores a handsome actor who would turn even a lesbian straight. He was long dead and she is being asked questions that happened a long time ago for her. She was not a gold digger, she saved a man’s career and fell in love with him. It happens. She was bitter because who to say that being Mrs.Hudson was the beginning of something new and fun. Sure she returned to being a lesbian after the divorce. She gave up hope.

[@wendynichols6946]

@@heathercrumpler5353 What a lot of rubbish - SHE WAS A LESBIAN when she was introduced to RH by Henry Wilson her boss and RH agent. Also, she tried to blackmail RH which failed thanks to RH friend, Lis (can't remember her last name) she was a reporter and she turned the tables on Phyliss gates

[@MINOUTFTABOU]

@@heathercrumpler5353 Miss Nicholos must mean Shirley H. Sorry the Name is Liz Smith.

[@wendynichols6946]

She is a liar - also, she was a lesbian - and married RH by orders from Henry Wilson RH's agent

[@innocentti6274]

As a result of watching Rock HUDSON'S EX-WIFE PHYLLIS GATES - LARRY KING LIVE, 2003,I often wonder about those who defined Marc Christian as a gold digger, a liar, or (and) a blackmailer, how did they think about Rock Hudson's ex-wife Phyllis Gates, as this woman said she liked Marc Christian very much and she once blackmailed Rock Hudson as well. In my opinion those hatred to Marc Christian was unfair only because he won the lawsuit and got the money. I think it was Rock Hudson himself gave Marc Christian the chance to sue and to win.No one could be blamed in this case other than the disease.

[@babsyboone4482]

I think both of the parasites living off the money Rock worked for are just as bad. But Marc used hysteria over AIDS to get more money and that is damaging to those really suffering from the disease. He never got it and what Hudson told him or didn't is something we don't know for sure. I find it hard to believe Marc's claims he had unprotected sex for years while Rock had it. Regardless, he never got it. It was an age of wordless sex in baths, etc. Anyway, all three are gone

[@thatgirl9759]

I agree Innocenti. I don't agree with the way Marc Christian was looked upon either.

[@s.g.scheerer5781]

I think Larry wanted her to just make up a lot of fake news about him. So then that way it would juice up the interview. I believe she was like Elizabeth Taylor she wasn't going to let everything out.

[@adrianotero7963]

I think Mrs Gates came through very honestly.....Rock was bisexual....after a while with Mr Gates he wanted men......she could not tolerate the time alone and the coldness and divorced him.....never saw him again.....very simple really.....

[@wendynichols6946]

SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO BE HONEST SHE ONLY WANTED WOMEN AND MARRIED HIM FOR THE MONEY

[@heathercrumpler5353]

She loves him and he was so handsome, he could turn around lesbian and make her straight. Only a woman that is married to a man that will not kiss her enough or sleep with her like a normal lover, can understand the pain of being neglected. So what she saved his career and in that time she fell in love with him. I can understand it. Maybe she thought she can change him. Also, many people marry answer hope to marry a financially successful spouse. So what. She got a $1,000 a month for ten years. I got nothing in my divorce. I still feel the pain of not being kissed, the sex was weird because he did not want me. I don’t know what he wanted. He wanted my rear and not to kiss me much. I also had an arranged marriage. He said he loved me so much and turns out I will love him forever. He married another woman. She made more money than me. I wander if I had lots of money, would he has stayed. He told me he married his second wife because she had money. At some point he learned to love her. Money is what marriage is to some people, love is second because the world is greedy. So maybe Phyllis wanted him because he had it all.

[@leczorn]

If anyone has Marc Christian's complete interview on the Larry King show back in 2001, please post it!

[@dora1980]

I came here for this interview, I guess I was wrong.

[@beverleywebster-herrera7811]

So we have people coming out saying, “rock liked women “ and still have people posting what they” think “. Get over it. Those close to him said, “he was bi sexual”. Mami van Doreen, Marilyn maxwell among many had relations with him and all agree to 1 thing. What you “think” don’t matter. It’s actually null and void. Stop discrediting people that knew him, whether it hurts your ego or not! 😆 he had a preference but EVERYONE close to him says the exact same thing. He had relations with many men and women and admitted to a boy, in winnetka as being his son. A woman sued his estate ans done paternity testing with his cousins, as being his daughter. These aren’t miraculous pregnancies. He consummated his marriage or it would’ve been annulled and she would’ve got nothing. Right before his death he told people he loved Phyllis and she was his true love. So there’s that. I’ve read every book on him. He liked sex who with wasn’t important

[@markallen8226]

I'll always remember his fine performances on the silver screen: Giant, the Undefeated, A Gathering of Eagles, Hornets' Nest, Ice Station Zebra, and Seconds, to name a few. Not much of a pillow talk guy, but hey, if that's your thing. Regardless of what they say, I liked him, and I still enjoy his films today. Vale Rock.

[@doctoryes3396]

hmm - phyllis gates - one of my fave interviews - sweet and authentic - no forced anything - - un-Hollywood

[@wendynichols6946]

This woman was nothing but a liar - she married him only to have the good life he could provide financially - she didn't like men women was her choice

[@howstunningly]

@@wendynichols6946 What an intelligent comment.

[@wendynichols6946]

What a load of crap

[@rosasaucedo7271]

WELL LARRY WHAT KIND OF INTERVIEW DID YOU WANT SHE WAS BEING TRUTHFUL OR ARE YOU USE TO DISHING OUT LIES

[@aprilgosa5779]

Rosa Saucedo Larry wanted Trash

[@lin_mrachek]

Rosa Salcedo He was giving his POV that she was a,hard interview. He had to pull info out of her. I get it!! I worked in TV . I understand what he was saying.

[@thatgirl9759]

I know! She seemed like a real sweetheart!

[@AnahataMaryjane]

i don't think he was mad she didn't lie, i think for an interviewer it's difficult to talk to people who give short simple answers. then it sounds like you are interrogating them. it's best to answer with a light little anecdote or short funny story, even if it could be answered with a yes or no. she should have been prepped to elaborate a bit more on her answers, no lies, just good memories.

[@Irishjay_94]

she obviously didn't like Larry, plain and simple. The way he directed the questions as well of a dear friend and partner (whether settled agreement or not) shouldn't be made a mockery of. I wouldn't want to entertain him either! Sounds to me like she played dumb there because she simply didn't like Larry, but she would probably be more open and sincere with those that genuinely cared to know.

[@elissaschornstein5747]

Sorry I meant to state that IT IS NOT A GAY PERSONS DISEASE.

[@aprilgosa5779]

you are right its not and Nobody deserves to die like that all these homophobes who say that can shove it people are just people we all deserve to be loved and Marc is lying I believe I believe Rock did not tell him but its because he was threatening yet again to out Rock to the press and that Marc was in no danger because they were over and this is also another motive Marc was a jilted ex who was left out of the will

[@Kassy_1234]

BeyondEnchantment - you are an idiot. Africa? Prove it. Show me facts!!!!

[@liverbird_55]

Pet_Love hi i found this for you but all the info is out there for research www.theaidsinstitute.org/education/aids-101/where-did-hiv-come-0

[@mrmvpvip]

For people who say Rock Hudson is bisexual because he "loved" women and had sex with them, you have to be reminded that the era Rock was in was 1950s when Rock was playing his role to be the"bachelor" and a ladies' man. Rock was gay but had to say the "right" things to discourage suspicions and do everything he could to fit his role. He flirted with women and appeared interested because that's what his macho image required of him. A lot of gay men (even nowadays) have had sex with women but that doesn't make them bisexual. For example, Elton John got engaged with a woman and married another, then later even came out as bisexual just to stem the rumors of him being gay. For Rock, he was always going to be with a man. If he was bisexual, then I'm sure he would be a lot happier and even start a family with women which wouldn't be difficult with his fame and good look. He couldn't, because he just couldn't be with a woman if he was allowed to choose.

[@Boospoochie]

Well... in fairness--he could love women without it being sexual. He had lots of very close women friends.

[@beverleywebster-herrera7811]

Marc Christian just said he liked women, as have many people who knew him. People think they know it all. Previous partners, sexual, said he had sex with both. They know what he liked. Someone he continued a sexual relationship with until her death, was Marilyn maxwell. His house keeper and her publicist both said you could hear them. His best friend from the 1950s who is gay said, “I’m gay but rock was not”. These are people who knew him so who are we to discredit everyone? Also rock does have children. 1 he claimed, but never met and another that sued his estate. He dropped his date of at home and had sex with her mother. His best friend also backed this claim. Up until his death he said, “I’ve only ever loved 2 people and Phyllis gates is 1 of them and I should’ve fought harder for my marriage and went back for MY SON”. You have no right to discredit anything all these people say, people who knew him, lived with. Might hurt ego’s but rock likes sex. Men and women.

[@SpiderWireless]

@@beverleywebster-herrera7811 Rock has children? LOL

[@brucee6123]

Larry King got the timeline completely wrong - Hudson hadn't "just died of AIDS"; he died in 1985, the interview with Phyllis was in 2004. So of course she wasn't giving a "shocked" reaction that he seemed to be seeking. In fact, Phyllis makes for an interesting interview. His failure to get what he wanted may reflect more on his interviewing techniques and failure to follow-up on what Phyllis had to say.

[@levertige1]

Well she was aged at the moment of the interview. Old people acting by their own Sacred way. But surely she wasn’t so naive as she said. She guessed or knew about his homosexuality. There was a tape recording a talk between them both.

[@shakeyraware1563]

Rip beautiful angel

[@ClassPresidentAlejandro1999]

What month did this aire?

[@claudianorman258]

what the hell is donald trump doing here

[@jimscribner8314]

Totally my first thought watching it.

[@user-mj8nf2vp7q]

...Looking and sounding crazy as hell.

[@cbracamonte]

He was funny at the end !

[@gregghanson6095]

Trump was out of his league then to say nothing of now.

[@chaycesmom1212]

Donald actually did good in there

[@3506Dodge]

Sure, some were coming out in 1985. Not many, but some did.

[@italiaanto]

Rock Hudson era bisexual, que tanto rollo no es el unico actor , bisexual en Hollywood. Fue mejor que muchos actores : fue buen hijo, buen amigo daba donativos a obras de caridad. Porque no hablan de las cosas buenas.🐴El aportó mucho al cine aunque nadie lo reconozca.

[@musliselmani3994]

👍👍

[@susanmagnuson9174]

She tried to blackmail Rock if he tried to divorce her. Yet she was a lesbian.

[@babsyboone4482]

You can't believe anything Phil Gates or the other huckster says. When Rock was sick, Tom Clarke moved back in with him to provide care....not Marc Christian

[@aprilgosa5779]

Babsy Boone Exactly

[@wendynichols6946]

I AGREE

[@ShutupAndDrinkYourGinOliver]

Thanks for posting this, innocentii. The "Bunting" interview is the Holy Grail🏆of the Larry King library. As I worked as an admin in boring-degenerate-Hollyweird for 5 years in my distant past, I can understand why Ms. Gates was so quick to marry for money as an escape route. Larry King did not realize that Rock Hudson/Roy refused to inform Phyllis about the many years of physical abuse that his mother and stepdad inflicted on him. That's why Phyllis seemed so clueless about her ex-husband's Arrested-Development issues. However, Phyllis said that she forced Roy to visit her therapist, and that mental health assessment was very cathartic, as it was the first time Roy could reflect on his pain in a safe environment. Years later, in the 1970's Anti-Hero-Era zeitgeist, Roy would not shut up about how disturbing his abusive parents were, publicly shaming his dead mother on the Dinah Shore Christmas TV Special (talk about Grinchtastic!). Roy's abuse complaint was radical back then. Conversely, Tony Perkins' mom sexually abused him for years but Tony always told the media how protective he was over her, and how much he longed for her private affection. Phyllis Gates (unbeknownst) became the most iconic catalyst in Hollyweird history when she dumped Roy! *Kudos to Ms. Phyllis Gates for her courage to live an authentic life!* R.I.P. Lavender-Lady💐

[@lgempet2869]

Phyllis has passed away now but from what I can tell from this interview, was in major denial in a variety of different areas & chose to stay that way- I think a generational thing too. Always thought that the reason why Doris Day & Rock Hudson were such close friends was their affinity for denial- a similar psychology. Sadly, Phyllis was used badly by Rock & may have allowed herself to be....that she thought so little of herself to be left w/so little means after the divorce despite Rock being a very wealthy guy. She deserved better than that....shame on him.

[@gregghanson6095]

she was not the brightest bulb on the tree.

[@wendynichols6946]

No, shame on her - she was a lesbian - she tried to blackmail him what a moron

[@tuttifrutti5300]

What do you think was Doris Day in denial about?

[@beverleywebster-herrera7811]

She left him, he didn’t want a divorce. And she said she Intentionally took birth control as to not get pregnant by him. She could’ve had his kids and money. She’s a genuine person. People close to them, her best friend and rocks to said “it was not a sham marriage, That he loved her and catered to whatever she wanted” however she was unhappy”. Right before he died he said she 1 of 2 that he loved.

[@wendynichols6946]

No way, she had a good life with RH she was a lesbian but knew she would have a good life with RH she is a liar and low life.

[@kellygreen5556]

Sadly, Rock Hudson couldn't tell his side of the story. His rent boy later died...but not from AIDS as he didn't get it....but from the effects of drug addiction (nicotine).

[@Dottiecurran]

Yes. Marc was half Rock's age. Is there any question the attraction was only MONEY. I mean, lets get real.

[@elissaschornstein5747]

I think Rock liked women probably only as friends and not as lovers. That means he was a man's man. He was a very nice actor and he brought pleasure to many cinema goers. Just unfortunate to be Gay at a time when Aids was death sentence. Being gay in the days before Aids was around was obviously safer. At least now the medicine keeps people alive for quite some time. The world lost so many beautiful and talented people who were not Gay. Aids can happen to anyone. Very sad.

[@bloboshitful]

He aged badly. Must be all the hate and drugs. I would never sue anyone I loved especially if they were ill

[@blanchejennette6262]

so was Rock married more than once because I remember reading that he slapped his wife because she called someone he knew a fruit. Was it Phyllis?

[@nathelondon3719]

What the hell is Larry King criticising Phyllis for? What their arrangement was is not his business nor anybody’s. Let them rest in peace.

[@sexobscura]

is that *Dr Ruth* .....

[@user-mj8nf2vp7q]

...LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tinkie]

maybe she was the reason that added to rock loosing interest in her,

[@Whatt787]

Marc Christian looks bad here

[@mscarolynnigro]

I thought she was a good interview - Larry was too hard on Phylis

[@charmainedwards4278]

Phyllis was full of shit! She could remember every party...every celebrity she hung out with..n every piece of jewelry rock brought her..but asked if she knew or suspected he was gay... he claimed to not know I think she married him for his money like it's been reported n she lied n claimed she got no alimony but actually got $250 a week for 10 years from rock!

[@wendynichols6946]

Glad he was

[@bdavis8397]

A lot could be said about Marc Christian but a jury believed that he was lied to and they awarded more than he was seeking. It was to be paid by the insurance company that turned down a nine hundred thousand dollar settlement. Most importantly it demonstrated that a person with whom you have a sexual encounter MUST disclose that they are HIV positive.

[@aprilgosa5779]

B Davis from what i heard they were broken up so Marc was in no danger he only sued because he was dumped and left out of the will

[@heathercrumpler5353]

Well, if he lived with Rod Hudson today for 7 years, it would be a common law marriage. Marriage was not acceptable for gay people back then and Rod did not have 7 years to be with him. He was a 57 year old man screwing a 30 year old. Rod liked them half his age.

[@letmetellyousomething123]

What a lovely Man Marc Christian was.

[@Whatt787]

He looks really bad here, he aged poorly since the 1989 interview, smoking killed him just a few years later

[@hawiiancanetoad]

Larry liked the boys. This one is waaaaay too old, though.

[@liverbird_55]

*She was very naive or she just didnt want to go there to a place that was full of deceit, and i think if Rock Hudson did love her as much as hollywood celebs had mentioned in interviews saying he only loved 2 people and he had said one was her then why didnt he make sure her life was comfortable and not make it such a struggle for her, he was a loser cheating husband and everyone knew it, and Larry King at the end with Trump was disgusting she was nothing but pleasant and charming to Larry King on his interview show then he goes and stabs her in the back as if she has done something wrong when she answered every question with the upmost honest truth unlike celebs that make storys up, i think Larry King looks like a fool at the end to behave like that with Trump and Trump saying he wasnt kissing her alot and then Larry laughing at his immature joke was just pathetic, who new it that Larry King was such a sleeze just like Trump and knowing Trumps objectification of women and his childish tendency to criticise women with sexist remarks then Larry himself decides to criticise her the way this amazing woman spoke the truth about her life and having a joke about it with the worlds biggest douche bag, How Disgusting! and immature these fools look👎🏼*

[@constancedenchy9801]

Agreed

[@susanmagnuson9174]

Phyllis Gates was a total Lesbian!

[@tombovitale2597]

Wow I can't believe Mark Christian was bisexual he said he likes women too but I didn't know he had a thing with Rock Hudson make sense because they're both very attractive actors

[@heathercrumpler5353]

Yet, he never has children. He must of wore condoms with his women lovers.

[@rosasaucedo7271]

Oh I forgot if she would of lied about their life the ratings would of sky rocket I get

[@KountryStateOfMind]

Truth is Larry is the worst interviewer ever so glad he's off the air Phyllis told the truth something Larry isn't use to hearing. And he couldn;t trip her up!

[@wendynichols6946]

Truth that woman didn't know what truth was

[@namaiyacunningham688]

She was a beard

[@seisha7392]

This poor lady Phyllis Gates she seemed so happy and hopeful and unsuspecting. What a shame and a raw deal for her glad she lived a long life :)

[@wendynichols6946]

SHE IS A LIAR - SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS GETTING INTO AND BNESIDES THAT SHE LIKED WOMEN

[@wendynichols6946]

That poor lady knew exactly what she was getting into - she had a great 2years with Rock who provided her with a great life financially.

[@wendynichols6946]

ITS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT SHE PREFERRED WOMEN

[@katjakittenland9689]

She was a lesbian herself!

[@wendynichols6946]

@Wandering In The Woods She was well known back in New York - she was looking for very rich lesbians.

[@myahollandia3552]

I dont understand he was gay but loved women ? I think he was bisexual

[@innocentti6274]

+Mya Hollandia you mean Rock Hudson,I think he was gay

[@hexum7]

+Mya Hollandia He asked the wrong question- being too circimspect about it, he asked "did he like women" not, was he sexually attrated to women. two very different ideas

[@babsyboone4482]

Men and boys?

[@babsyboone4482]

I am totally for coming out of the closet but anyone who expected Rock Hudson in his day to be truthful about gay sex doesn't understand the era.

[@insaneone4369]

He didn't like women. He liked dick.

[@ehsanmunir9450]

Is that a real trump in the video?????? Lol

[@marinawilliams7477]

So Rock was bi?

[@katjakittenland9689]

No, Phyllis was a lesbian and that's also the reason she was the right one for Rock to marry (keeping each other's secret). But she stayed in the closet and kept lying about not knowing Rock was gay.

[@katjakittenland9689]

Uuuuh, everybody who's so positive about Phyllis Gates; look up some documentaries! The reason Rock married her , was because she was a lesbian. They both were having homosexual relationships during their marriage, without having to fear the other would talk. She's a liar saying she didn't know Rock was gay and never came out of the closet herself.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

Larry’s a deuce. Phyllis gate is a great person. She wasted countless years of her life with a man who was just using her to cover up his gay status so why would you expect her to want to brag about her ex husband? Rock was a great guy but he was also shady. Only reason I believe Phyllis when she said she didn’t know he was gay because look at what he did it Marc. He never mentioned his aid status and I can assure you Marc would have not even banged him if he knew. Nobody would have sex with some one with a deadly virus that was just introduced into society. In the end tho you know Phyllis never fell out of love with Rock because if she did she would have been remarried with children. She was beautiful at a young age she deff didn’t have any guy troubles. When you love someone you can’t have you tend to avoid talking about them.

[@beverleywebster-herrera7811]

He might’ve married her for that but months before he died he said she was his true love so apparently he never stopped either. She said it was a great, very intimate marriage…at first.

[@bdavis8397]

Phyllis Gates was not an actress.

[@mauriciocorona5485]

nop, she was a lesbian waitress

[@bdavis8397]

Did you work with her.

[@mauriciocorona5485]

No, but I know because of the Rock Hudson's Biography

[@bdavis8397]

Don't know what you read. She was a secretary for Rock Hudson's manager.

[@lunacar454]

Aww I love my president. I didn't know he was going to be in this video lol.

[@ragemodels]

DONALD SHADY AS EVER !!!!!

[@adrianbecker6853]

This is about Rock Hudson’s lovers, including Trumpski !!! 😝

[@constancedenchy9801]

Rock Hidson was a narcissist who used and discarded people. He was a fantastic actor which made him an amazing manipulator

[@gavinnewscum]

Marc loved to eat Rock’ Hershey Highway