Rock 'n' Roll Tragedy - The Will: Family Secrets Revealed - S02 EP07 - Reality TV

[@ralphbenites1312]

Ritchie paved the way for other Chicano artists to follow in the early 60’ and through the 70’s .gone but not forgotten 😞🎸🎙

[@JerryWilson-v2w]

Yes he did paved the way Chicano singers like Selena.

[@corinnerobinson4949]

I don't use the Chicano, that's so 70s label they called us..I use Mexican American is more suitable for the people born here in America,,I'm sure Ritchie was born in America..

[@ralphbenites1312]

@@corinnerobinson4949 that’s what I call it.and that’s the way it’s going to be.regardless.Mexican’s didn’t have roll modes from that era just Mexican singers from thair couture it’s a hole different music.Chicano rock like malo el Chicano and Santana all from the 70’s. Not trying to be racist ok? I grew up in the 70’s all that great music was around.😁👍thank you.just trying to set the record straight.

[@katemaloney4296]

He wasn't Chicano; he was born and raised in California and spoke only English. He considered himself an American of Mexican descent.

[@pedenmk]

Just think how far these three could have gone if the accident had not happened. Life is precious. Thanks for sharing. Great episode.

[@Tarheelsrule]

They always say everything happens for a reason ???????? I only hear stories of this I'm not near that old but it's interesting to Me reading the stories of things that Happened

[@outlawofga]

I'm So glad the family got what they deserved. I always liked his music and the Movie. It brought me to tears when Bob said "."Even after 50 years, when Labomba is played. The dance floor fills up. Ritchie is still in control of his music "..... RIP Ritchie.... you'll never be forgotten 💯

[@deannawiederhold3326]

I saw him live in Reno Nevada and I knew he would be great

[@lharrill7229]

Ofc the owner of the plane would want to put doubt in people's minds about the cause of the crash. But I think it's kinda disgusting to try to change history by saying perhaps there was a disagreement on board and a gun involved. Obviously the pilot wasn't qualified and the maintenance of the plane questionable.

[@donnarupert4926]

My cousin born in February 1959 and myself in October 1959 were named after Ritchie’s song “Donna” It was the most popular name for a girl in 1959💕

[@HoneySuckle123]

❤I remember singing and" Donna was her name....Oh Donna..."

[@donnawheeler6283]

I was loosely named for that song. My mom wanted our initials to be the same, so the name fit for that purpose, also. When introduced to people, I am serenaded by Ritchie's song. I suppose it happens to many of us with my name. Haha

[@ralphbenites1312]

That’s so neat

[@jackiepowell7513]

My cousin and I were named....etc.

[@jackiepowell7513]

You guys our Founders were smarter, read the Federalist papers some time. No wonder we re 37th in the world in education; and spend the most!!????

[@danielupsdell2697]

ritchie i am so glad your family got what they deserved from your music i know for sure you wanted them looked after for the rest of there life rest in peace buddy we all miss you

[@sandym8787]

RIP Richie , Bob and Robert ......

[@kc0lif]

you mean big bopper, Ritchie, buddy,

[@sandym8787]

@@kc0lif No - Bob is Richie's brother , Robert is Bob's son and was father to my child ...

[@4supernatural]

The music never died!!🩵💙💜💓💗💛

[@swampghost72]

Yes Bob Keane helped create and discovered Ritchie Valens but that was his job..He messed over the family until they fought back..He wasnt fair with them..the music industry hasnt changed much today.

[@googalacticgoo]

He was Petty like Norman

[@godislord3377]

They were sacrificed

[@googalacticgoo]

@@godislord3377 have you ever noticed how the winter dance party zig zag route forms a star?

[@godislord3377]

@googalacticgoo no I haven't payed attention to it...I'll go back and look

[@oldermusiclover]

sad but true

[@stevedenton1783]

If the pilot was not instrumental Rating the pilot should not went up

[@jackiepowell7513]

Not went or not have gone?

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

Exactly

[@cruisepaige]

I think the phrase you are grasping for is “should not have gone.”

[@judithmagill1449]

All this is true, but add in the pressure of people wanting to go home and you have a recipe for tragedy 😢

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

@@judithmagill1449 I’d rather be safe and feeling positive about even Making it home.

[@Suzi64grad]

I am 78 this year,,,so lucky to have been there when Ritchie made his music! Donna was my favorite! Today Ritchie and his girlfriend Donna could have dated without anyone batting an eye! He really cared for her, and she adored him! Things were so different! 😊. I remember the front page of the paper telling of the crash…headlines!

[@swampghost72]

Ive seen people comment that Valens and Holly still having an influence is overstated..I dont think some people understand what influence encompasses..your thinking only in terms of popularity..Not in terms of musicians and the music on a deeper level..Vallens , and Buddy influenced whole genres and many musicians over the years..And still do.

[@Meine.Postma]

But not as much as the documentary states was the point

[@swampghost72]

@@Meine.Postma I disagree..People like him and Buddy paved the way..

[@79tazman]

Buddy Influenced the Beatles if you listen to their recordings before they were famous they sang lot's of Buddy Tunes and Waylon Jennings would of never been a country star if it was not for Buddy

[@swampghost72]

@@79tazman Thats facts!!

[@dcricket1]

Waylon Jennings was a radio DJ here in Lubbock before he even had a musical artist career. He and Buddy were friends. They are both installed into the Lubbock, Texas Walk of Fame with a giant status of Buddy Holly in the center of the round walls with all the plaques mounted. Most people have no idea the artists out of this area. There is no bronze of Waylon because he was not a Lubbock native but was from Littlefield, Tx about 40 miles west but moved to Lubbock.

[@peternewman1179]

It’s no surprise or secret the history of corruption , unfair royalties, and outright theft of musicians artistic authorship, and absolute tragically low percentages of unit sales by greedy record corporations who took advantage of the recording artists. History of reparations forced on them by court actions to pay back royalties continues to this day. The famous MCA decision was the largest class action in the history of the recording business. It’s so prevalent that music schools and colleges include the business end of the industry in their curriculums. For more insight to this issue read books like “ Hit Men”

[@79tazman]

I was born in 1979 but knew of Buddy, Ritchie and JP at a young age and then when the Movie La Bamba came out in 1987 I was 8 years old and was sad over how Ritchie was still a kid in high school and that whole deal made me afraid to fly especially in single engine planes. I still rock Ritchie's music all the time and always wonder what could of been if the crash never happened that night in 1959.

[@RosieYogi40]

I was 4 when it came out but my parents would take me to ANYTHING and it’s still one of my favorite movies!

[@lindacormier4613]

I just love this channel so much ❤️, HELLO FROM CANADA 🇨🇦

[@bethmcright9731]

So Very Sad😢😢😢

[@79tazman]

What i don't understand is why Jerry did not fly them instead of getting someone with very little experience at night while it was snowing out. Jerry had more experience and it was 3 famous guys he should of been the pilot if not told the guys that no flights out because of the weather conditions. I don't think something like that would happen today or if it did there would be big problems for the flight business.

[@laurenurban3942]

Why couldn’t they rent a few cars? At least they would have heat in them. Hertz car rental was in business back then. I would have rented a few cars or station wagons. In that weather, a small private plane would never be an option. I understand their need to get to their next gig and to get Richie to a warmer place, being that he was sick with the Flu. It’s just a very sad story. Sorry they had such a tragic end.

[@oldermusiclover]

@@laurenurban3942 may be they did not have the money

[@helenmallory3002]

With all due respect I was a teenager during this time all three of these young men were popular but i do have to say Buddy Holly was the most well known of the three all were VERY talented performers I also seen all three in concert...

[@julietcapulet5292]

That is sooo cool! How were the concerts? Were they down to earth people? Meaning would they talk to fans and sign autographs.

[@jackiepowell7513]

I seen or I saw all 3.

[@jackiepowell7513]

La Bamba was huge tho

[@julietcapulet5292]

Thank you for replying 💕

[@hqztonners]

@@jackiepowell7513 Give her a break mate. She is not a young woman. Very small spelling mistake and that's all you are worried about? Are you an english teacher? Have a nice day.

[@carolinegoss856]

It was a huge influence for years to come as it was the first & only Spanish song to hit the rock and roll charts. And as for the Beatles topping them had they lived, they wouldn’t have been in the same time frame. Their music has passed the test of time as have the Beatle’s. The Beatles, btw, were influenced by Buddy Holly.

[@jackiepowell7513]

Long before Selena or Gloria estefan!!

[@googalacticgoo]

Wait til the morning and have Jerry fly them. Share a nearby bed n breakfast or if Mr. Dwyer, Mr. Carol Anderson could have even accommodated them in his own home or even camp out in an office space in the airport would have been way better than freezing bus

[@RosieYogi40]

I feel the same about this as I do about Kobe & Gianna Bryant dying in a helicopter crash… The pilot went against their instincts due to the fame of the passengers.

[@paulsantana6045]

In the book,a lady finishing up chores noticed outside her kitchen window the plane making a beeline to her home,she managed to run outside and had turned on the outside light of her home,she saw the plane go upright and missed her home,they must have seen the light come on and raised the yoke up to avoid the light

[@plymouthduster225]

Did the family get back Ritchie Valens car after he passed? He had a blue 1958 Ford Thunderbird that he bought or was given by Bob Keane, i had read once that it was at Bob's house while Ritchie Valens was on tour and after he passed away Bob Keane wouldn't let Ritchie's family have it.

[@lizarrrdbeth]

I read this on a FB post: Brother Bob explained to me a few years ago the car was intended to be Ritchie's. Yes, Bob Keane bought it but Ritchie fell in love with it. Ritchie begged Bob to sell it to him and eventually, Bob Keane may or may not have promised to give the car to Ritchie when he came back from tour. Of course, as we all know.... Ritchie never came back.

[@Julie-ne3sx]

Well that’s not right. Ritchie earned that, his family should have got it I think

[@plymouthduster225]

@Julie-ne3sx Bob Keane was a shady guy he might have mob ties or so I read, Sam Cooke was an artist on his label, Sam was shot and killed at hotel in Los Angeles in 1964 he supposedly had a large amount of money on him but they only found 20 dollars on him, and Bobby Fuller another musician signed to Del Fi records under Bob Keene was found dead in the front seat of his mother's car at the age of 23 years old in 1966

[@lindiehammond7921]

I am born and raised in Iowa not far from where this happened. So I noticed the mistake made around 20:25 when the narrator called Clear Lake “Clearwater”!

[@jbrobertson6052]

I am impressed this was well done Thanks

[@susanmcclellan1773]

So sad.. sounds like pilot error.

[@jackiebaptiste6319]

Bob k had no right to rob that Ricky val family

[@WE3LSC1937]

Waylon Jennings and Tim Allsop I’m sure thanked the Lord(RIP Buddy, Ritchie and Big Bopper) that they weren’t on that plane.. By bye Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry(in honor of Buddy Holly)..

[@mangrove]

That, said, Jennings felt survivor's guilt for thr rest of his life, as well. He regretted his joke with Holly about the plane crashing.

[@GreySkyLady]

The Waylon Jennings-Buddy Holly situation is *literally* the first example in Wikipedia under “Survivor’s Guilt”. It haunted him for his entire life.

[@Sydroo1969]

I've been to the crash site. It's a very somber place. Life was probably hard, especially if all your children are by different men. I'm glad his family finally got what they deserved. RIP to Buddy, Ritchie, and JP

[@ritagriffin747]

I love a woman who says 'NO' to abortion. You are trying to shame this woman for her COURAGE.

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

​@@ritagriffin747Cmon now,that behaviour bk then was really bad

[@JoeyFlyBoy]

RIP Bob Morales

[@ericponce8740]

In 1975, Led Zeppelin released their classic album Physical Graffiti. One of the songs on the album was "Boogie with Stu". The song was based on Richie Valens's " Ooh My Head". The song credited Richie's mother, Ms. Reyes because Jimmy Page learned that she never received any royalties from Richie's hit songs. Well, Bob Keane sued LZ for royalties. (Ms. Reyes was not part of the lawsuit. And some of the royalties did go to Ms. Reyes.)

[@williamchappell9858]

They should've just waited until the next morning to get on the plane if the weather had improved spend the night at the arena where they played earlier that night could've slept in the dressing rooms

[@Robert-nu4vc]

That was the whole reason they flew when they did. Buddy Holly wanted to get to the destination quickly and get some rest.

[@davethemagnificent2576]

I don't know any of the words to Labamba but when I hear it, I crank it up and get down.

[@rayfabris2512]

sad day for Rock n Roll

[@jbyesterday3959]

Very informative & very touching documentary surrounding not only legendary Richard Valenzuela, but also his loving, caring & resilient family. Que en paz descanses ❤🙏

[@ElChupahuahua]

Richie's mom seems like a genuine strong saint. RIP 🙏

[@PartyOf8Please]

13:38 The date on the quarter is 1969 - pretty amazing since the plane crash occurred in 1959

[@shariburger97]

Tommy Alsup told me when I met him in 06 it was a silver dollar

[@kcn7826]

If the artist was 17 years old when wouldn’t be legal because he was under age like David Cassidy?

[@lizarrrdbeth]

Is it not possible that the Big Bopper survived and tried to walk and find help and succumbed to his injuries? Maybe that is why he was found so far away. Snow fall could have covered his tracks. So bazaar the whole incident.

[@aequoria2949]

The Big Bopper was exhumed several years ago and his remains were x-rayed. His injuries were extreme. Nearly every bone in his body was broken. It’s highly unlikely that he walked away from the crash, or even crawled away.

[@godislord3377]

Well we have to know that holy wood is full of cults and they knew it was time...royalties and assets...that is alot of money...they owned everything

[@laurenurban3942]

No. The Big Bopper did not walk or crawl anywhere after that crash. He died on impact with the cold ground and, as someone already stated, pretty much every bone in his body was broken/fractured. He was exhumed several years ago and it was confirmed that he did not have any bullet wounds but his bones were mostly broken. It was rumored that Holly, who always carried a gun, shot and killed people as the plane went down. That rumor was put to rest. Holly carried a gun when on tour because he usually had large wads of cash on him from the gigs they played. A rumor was started years ago that Holly started shooting people as the plane was going down. The gun was found by a farmer, I believe, in the field later on with a bullet missing from the chamber and that’s what started the rumor. It turns out that the farmer who found the gun had fired a round off to see if it still worked.

[@godislord3377]

@laurenurban3942 I am a freemason I assure you there is so much more to.whst goes on while celebrities are involved....

[@gailtravagiakis8632]

This is crazy this video says Clear Water instead on Clear Lake for the crash site investigation ?

[@alcyone9361]

Yes, should have said Clear Lake.

[@simonelima8585]

Ritchie Valens ❤️ eternity beloved os três tinham algo belo em comum, seu amor a sua família... Não estavam ali somente por fama e dinheiro mas cada um por sua família. Algo honravel que infelizmente tirou suas jovens vidas... Sonho com Ritchie e sempre estas em minhas orações

[@jilltagmorris]

I'm really liking these

[@anitarussell9382]

It was the end of the BEST! I love this❤️

[@jackiepowell7513]

Crop duster most likely.treacherous. i lived in iowa in 77, 78, horrid, deadly weather

[@BrentBare-cw6gz]

Richie Did Not Look Like He Was 17. He Looked Like He Was In His Mid To Late 20s.

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

I thought he looked in his 30s 😅

[@williamellis-xd1rm]

In case anyone is buying into that nonsense about shots fired on the plane, know that Buddy was being paid cash for those shows so he had it for protection on the road.

[@BeckyGutierrez-qj2he]

Yes, but the gun had been fired. Accidentally discharged or the impact of the crash?😮

[@godislord3377]

It's called the illuminate...they sacrificed him

[@shaynelord8286]

100%. Thats exactly what Buddy told Dion DiMucci when Dion asked him about it

[@clarissadouglas324]

Mr. Jackie Wilson knew him. How interesting

[@melodylove1893]

I was 11 years old when their plane crashed. I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I heard the news. I was devastated.

[@Tarheelsrule]

Sometimes as people we make bad decisions on that night a very bad decision was made it's history now

[@organicaffiliatehub]

Dwyer didn’t go alone searching for the plane. Someone was with him. He said that himself.

[@caryriggs5719]

Bob Keane. So many times when they talked about him they would show a picture of Bob Crane from Hogan's Heroes. Strange.

[@countrydawn418]

Excellent.

[@Mamadukee1]

Excellent video, you have should the human aspects to the sad event 🙏 🇬🇧

[@abayless3816]

LA Bomba is still one of my favs.

[@anitarussell9382]

This precious angel was the BEST!! Love him😇

[@Perfectpearl]

0:13 Oh wow! Only 17?!😮😮

[@WE3LSC1937]

I know it was 1959, and a small private plane, but didn’t they use black boxes back then? Just curious..

[@FRLN500]

@WE3LSC1937 No. Small private planes still do not use black boxes.

[@DavidMolina-jq7im]

What great documentary Rip Richie

[@stephenrafter1980]

Who signed the contract. I think the pilot of the plane was looking at the planes instruments upside.

[@jackiepowell7513]

Iowa weather hidden from us but treacherous!

[@cocoaorange1]

That was silly the musicians did not bring winter clothes on their tour. Thank goodness we have heated buses now. Air conditioning as well.

[@rossdrysdale7875]

I was a teenager at the time but I can remember the very place that I heard the news and the friend of mine that brought it to me and I just stood in the street shocked

[@scotkelly9880]

the owner of the aircraft and flight service was not "Bob" Dwyer" his name was Jerry Dwyer

[@harrietcraig6716]

I only ever heard them say “Jerry.”

[@Perfectpearl]

42:55 Perfect! 👍

[@2DclanSnipingTeam]

LOL. They show the farmer dialing 911. The 911 system didn't exist till a decade later in 1968.

[@simonelima8585]

Por favor legenda em português por favor....... Brasil

[@WilliamJones-wn9ln]

I had the chance to visit Ritchie Valens gravesite and his last address it was nice

[@cindysettles3743]

Absolutely disgusting that they took advantage of that family

[@margiehelberg4594]

Excellently portrayed. ❤ Thank you

[@tarariden9211]

They went out in a snowstorm. There was no foul play. Just bad luck and worst timing.That's all it was

[@wenthulk8439]

This was a beautiful video

[@peterpetersen4619]

The channel "Pilot Debrief" shows many times, how flying in VFR can lead to a complete disorientation about the attitude of the plane. When you can't see anything to orient yourself you are lost, if you not have learned Instrument flight. Petersen flies directly into the snowstorm. What is not told in this film are the traces on the ground. They showed, that the plane touched the ground at a shallow angle with the tip of the left wing. Of course petersen would have had to cancel the flight. He suffered from the "get-there-ritis", wich is well known in aviation. It is also possible that he overestimated his abillities or did not want to admit to this prominent persons, that he could not do it. 😢

[@maggiefitzgerald1276]

I love la bamba. It would definitely be in my top 10. In fact i must compile my top 10. This will not be easy.

[@jeanmyers1787]

What a tragedy. Otis Redding also was killed in a plane crash just as he achieved success.

[@Perfectpearl]

48:25 Your income and livelihood is supported by your seventeen year old little brother. I would be ashamed to say that.😂

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

Well they're in their 50s now so why not

[@OUTTA-TYME88]

Nothing controversial. The pilot didn't have enough experience and the weather didn't help. It was proven to be pilot error.

[@Perfectpearl]

47:47 “Bob Keene the most important role in Richie’s career.” Bob Keene didn’t ding one note….nor write a song!

[@donaldfaircloth1676]

Why would a 17 year old make out a will

[@kathyway8426]

He was scared to death of flying.

[@jewels3895]

Automatic goes to Mother

[@gregorylyon1004]

Most celebrities, no matter their age are advised to make out a will

[@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg]

There is NO mystery folks, The guy flying didn't know who to read the gauges and they were taking in weather they shoudl not have been flying in. NO MYSTERY. more fake drama

[@shaynelord8286]

Agreed, very cut and dry

[@theresagargett-lyons6173]

What became of Donna?

[@piscesempress1978]

Donna is alive and kicking and is currently 82 years old.

[@googalacticgoo]

Coincidentally lives in Sacramento where Peggy Sue was sent to all girls Catholic high school after childhood in Lubbock

[@deannawiederhold3326]

My Mom name was Donna 😂RIP

[@corriemiller3297]

This must've been filmed before bob died

[@godislord3377]

They made him fly ...they knew he would die

[@noahh9472]

Could it be that Patterson was flying correctly and buddy taking lessons said hey ur going down when he flying up the odemeter was opposite ??? We will never know

[@mrsseasea]

I cannot spell his mom’s name….but wow what a beautiful name.

[@jasonjgr8580]

I didn't know the record producer held Money from the family.

[@Meine.Postma]

La Bamba is a nice song and all but to say he was a big influence for years to come is very much overstated. And I think The Beatles would have conquered the USA even if he and Buddy Holly were still alive

[@mizzmolly7649]

I absolutely agree.

[@robertafierro5592]

It was a lively song! Great beat!

[@swampghost72]

I dont think yall understand what influence encompasses..your thinking only in terms of popularity..Not in terms of musicians and the music on a deeper level..Vallens , and Buddy influenced whole genres and many musicians over the years..And still do.

[@Meine.Postma]

@@swampghost72 They had some influence on other musicians, sure. But for example The Velvet Underground had a lot more influence on other musicians without being that popular when they existed as a band.

[@samanthab1923]

Yes, Buddy was the genius. There’s a reason Paul McCartney bought the rights to Buddy Holly’s songs & had some of his guitars

[@Anna-Rose-]

Duff McKagan (Guns N' Roses bassist) went to school to learn about the business, who he should be paying, and how much he should be paying them.

[@terrylogan442]

Ridiculous, the pilot is responsible, not the owner

[@Shazzadut1]

No. Is the answer. No shots fired. No argument. The Big Bopper didn’t walk away. None of that happened. He had over 200 fractures in his body. He didn’t walk or crawl anywhere.

[@nreynolds75243]

Halfway thru this it appears that the pilot wasn't qualified to fly the plane, the conditions were too bad to fly and the plane was over its weight capacity. Also the issues they were having prior to this flight were preeminent as to what was to come. That was a warning to not continue but it wasn't heeded.

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

What was a warning

[@Cornbread-gi6kt]

It’s said Richie earned more than $12 million dollars world wide for his music and he and his family only saw less than a fraction.🤷🏼🤔

[@carolyngray2847]

Bob Keen, terrible contract and he knew it was not to Richie's advantage. Guess he'll get what owed on the other side.

[@jennifursun3303]

have heard several times that Buddys manager made him go on this trip he didn't want to be had no money

[@birdmanrobertlabodajr.3416]

Personally, the guy that founded Ritchie Valens I think you should’ve paid out more money to her to their family instead of withholding all the money should’ve went back to their family. Bob should be his. He should be paying out more money back to them and Bob should be paying out more money to that because, you know I think that should’ve been there before sign that contract but it did personally think that Ritchie Valens if he was alive today, he would’ve been a lot more he would’ve been. I think he would probably been about $10-$90 million and this I think he would’ve been an older man. I think he would’ve been rocking straight through.

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

You are barely literate 😅that's like reading a 5 year olds script

[@axer3515]

You have to wonder if they would have kept making hits. I don't think the Big Bopper would have done much more, Buddy was making a large mark, bit Richie was a wild card. He may have hit his peek.

[@brooklynbutter5357]

There is more to the business than simply making hits. Each of them had a plan b and plan c. From Buddy Holly who wanted to start his own record label to the Big Bopper who I believe was interested in buying a radio station. Ritchie was only 17, basically an infant. He definitely had the talent to create whatever second act he wanted. Besides, we all know the big money is in song writing and music production, so he just as easily could have pivoted towards producing

[@ixlr8677]

i bet they dident know they were fixin to hit the ground till it happened. sad.

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

Nope, Richie went screaming to his death

[@TwoWeekCowboy]

@@BruceLee-fd7uw Just how would you know that?

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

@TwoWeekCowboy There was a amazing psychic medium who was given his jacket to hold while she was blindfolded and not told who owned it .She said it

[@francescarando7884]

I was born the day the music died, five years later

[@treasure2behold282]

Does anyone find it odd that certain popular artists die in a plane crash? Is it a sacrifice for their dark agenda ? Is this a plan to get rid of the competition?

[@DavidEm-zd9fg]

The infamous death claus.