Rocky Marciano "The Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Discusses His Boxing Career" | Ed Sullivan Show

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Rocky Marciano "The Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Discusses His Boxing Career" on The Ed Sullivan Show, December 16, 1956. Subscribe now to never miss an update: ume.lnk.to/EdSullivanSubscribe
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@mikevignoli6687
@mikevignoli6687 Жыл бұрын
The Rock was typical of people back then. Respectful and genuine. A great era and now it is over.
@greglemieux9809
@greglemieux9809 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Unfortunately the era of respecting your fellow man is loooooong gone.🤔😪😪😪😪
@aoe9015
@aoe9015 Жыл бұрын
People weren’t respectful and genuine back then, such BS
@jmcc8718
@jmcc8718 Жыл бұрын
@@aoe9015 much more honourable than today, ofc many were wicked too but less evil people I'd say
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
@@greglemieux9809 Light-heavy Charles Lost (25) times and was KTFO (7) times Light-heavy Moore Lost (23) times and was KTFO (7) times Cruiser-Walcott Lost (20) times and was KTFO (5) times Cruiser-Savold Lost (43) times and was KTFO (12) times Light-heavy Lowry Lost (68) times and was KTFO (3) times. He took little-rocky the-distance Twice, and actually beat him 1st fight. Cruiser-LaStarza Lost (9) times and was KTFO (2) times. He officially fought little-rocky to a draw 1st fight.
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 Жыл бұрын
@@Studentofsweetscience If Lowry beat him and LaStarza fought him to a draw why is it that every time I look at his record it says 49-0. It doesn't say 47-1-1, it says 49-0. And you can't deal with it.
@Bismarck.1871
@Bismarck.1871 2 ай бұрын
No color line. He just fought what was in front of him. No bad mouthing. Just him. No racism of any kind. God bless Marciano.
@BlueCollar-218
@BlueCollar-218 9 ай бұрын
The real greatest all time.
@RAMROD1847
@RAMROD1847 Жыл бұрын
Rocky marciano probably the most lovable and most respectable man this sport has ever seen. Rip big guy. 🙏
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
--(Acute paranoid psychosis symptoms Marciano suffered)--@ '1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
@xavierlejon1244
@xavierlejon1244 Жыл бұрын
Says who ? Rocky Marciano’s business partner was Frankie Carbo a Mafia Boss who ran the fight game from the early 1940s thru the late 1950s . Marciano never fought more than two legitimate opponents in his entire career. All of Marciano’s opponents were inexperienced with less than 14 fights on their records or were old fighters. And how can a fighter fight 43 fights in 48 months ? Great Invincible Champ with only 6 fights ? Yeah right !
@RAMROD1847
@RAMROD1847 Жыл бұрын
@@xavierlejon1244 what have you ever done with your life?
@xavierlejon1244
@xavierlejon1244 Жыл бұрын
To answer Your asinine question of what I have done with My life ! It’s none of Your Damn business. Now, the issue wasn’t about Me Dumbazz, it was about facts which are all collaborated through historical facts in black & white written words. Now Dimrods STFU.
@dr.doolittle4763
@dr.doolittle4763 Жыл бұрын
@@xavierlejon1244 What a crock. Try and disparage a man who fought 49 times in 8 years, far more than any other fighter of Heavyweight note in the modern era. Fought the top contenders and champions, and was one of the smallest heavyweight champions in history yet when he won he typically left his opponents out cold or nearly so. The man was a marvel and a gentlemen. Of course you resort to the "all Italians are criminals" routine which is old, tired, and stinks of prejudice.
@MrDominex
@MrDominex Жыл бұрын
Rocky was intelligent, articulate and well,spoken unlike many boxers.
@garyhearn2025
@garyhearn2025 Жыл бұрын
All these years have passed......and people are Still jealous of him.
@angryskeleton5359
@angryskeleton5359 Жыл бұрын
Well, it's hard to beat 49-0, this dude won every single fight, that's really really hard.
@franklucas7891
@franklucas7891 Жыл бұрын
@@angryskeleton5359 Floyd is a fake bum
@blainenewton7188
@blainenewton7188 6 ай бұрын
He was the people's champion, always acting like just a regular guy. Never self-aggrandizing, always open and honest, always entertaining, always humble, and always respectful. He had the shortest arms of any fighter of his day but packed an extremely heavy punch with either hand. Then, his heart and conditioning were second to none.
@MrPolymers
@MrPolymers Жыл бұрын
I've never seen Ed Sullivan smile so much. I think this had to be a great time for him to remember.
@joemacinnis1972
@joemacinnis1972 Жыл бұрын
Rocky was such a humble man, a truly great champion
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
Fer two decades the Marciano's have been tryin to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot bcz it's all factual!!! Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. His friends tried to help but he refused.
@joeygavadeels2784
@joeygavadeels2784 Жыл бұрын
Pure CLASS through & through. He NEVER talked bad about an opponent.
@dankinsler1930
@dankinsler1930 Жыл бұрын
The first Walcott fight was brutal. They beat each other to a pulp for 13 rounds. Both had the heart of a champion and both were great gentleman as well as boxers.
@johnrenehan7406
@johnrenehan7406 Жыл бұрын
Now this is a rare thing - an undisputed champian ; Rocky is , in every interview ive seen him in , has been absolutely articulate and showing NO signs of the dreaded punch drunk speech all the other greats display - amazing
@dr.doolittle4763
@dr.doolittle4763 Жыл бұрын
He kept himself in impeccable physical condition which no doubt added to his punch resistance.
@mm2280
@mm2280 3 ай бұрын
Ask his Agent
@LMatters1
@LMatters1 Жыл бұрын
What a class act. Such a total contrast to so many 'trash talking' boxers nowadays.
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
What Marciano did to his family is unforgivable. During his retirement speech, and during his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show he said, "I want to spend more time with my family." *IT WAS ALL A LIE.* He immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands then left them penniless @ *Aug\23\1993 -- THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault*
@donatellosmithson1
@donatellosmithson1 10 ай бұрын
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MDwhere do you get this ‘information’?
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
@@donatellosmithson1 Did u read article???
@watchablecontent9843
@watchablecontent9843 9 ай бұрын
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD what are you on about? he didnt abandon his family idk where they got that from. also the reason his family ended up broke is because he was extremely careful with his money after seeing what happened to joe louis so he hid money in secret places which he never revealed. and after he died, his family didnt know where all the money was, so they went broke. do some research before you start spreading harmful misinformation.
@watchablecontent9843
@watchablecontent9843 9 ай бұрын
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD also why are you replying to every single comment on this video with this exact same drivel? have you got nothing better to do with your time?
@ulisescastrom
@ulisescastrom 2 жыл бұрын
He seems so articulate and down to earth
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Жыл бұрын
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century. Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. Rocky moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters. What I knew about Marciano before I read the book Unbeaten was that he cowardly retired during his prime right before he would have had to fight the likes of Patterson, Liston, and Clay to name just a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked up in jail for 2 years. I did not know of the mob's influence in his career. Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champion were of dubious quality. Joe Louis was far beyond his prime. Journeyman Joe Walcott was 38/39 years old. Former middleweight turned light heavyweight grandfather Archie Moore was 41 and Ezzard Charles best years were behind him at light heavyweight. For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys." Rocky was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents. He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
@Texasmade74
@Texasmade74 11 ай бұрын
​@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez pure bullshit it's well known that the mafia never controlled Rocky but he still paid them even though they respected him and Liston fought for five years before Rocky retired
@Texasmade74
@Texasmade74 11 ай бұрын
​@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Archie Moore was 38 when he fought Rocky not 41 damn you can't even lie right
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
​@@Texasmade74 Fer two decades the Marciano's have been tryin to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot bcz it's all factual!!! Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. His friends tried to help but he refused.
@bobbyd5276
@bobbyd5276 10 ай бұрын
​@@Texasmade74 "I was in my *"40s"* vs. Floyd Patterson." -- *Archie Moore - @ "Rare Archie Moore Interview"* "Michael Spinks would have an *"edge"* over Ezzard Charles." -- *Archie Moore @ "Rare Archie Moore Interview"*
@stephenmartin2737
@stephenmartin2737 Жыл бұрын
The greatest ever, retired undefeated enough said !!!
@nunyabiznez6381
@nunyabiznez6381 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was 7 years old he came to my school. I had no idea who he was until afterwards.
@andrewzaltman6934
@andrewzaltman6934 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you!!!!
@whiitepee
@whiitepee Жыл бұрын
There’s something about the way he talked about his opponent that just fills you with respect & love for the man.
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
Fer two decades the Marciano's have been tryin to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot bcz it's all factual!!! Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. His friends tried to help but he refused.
@electrolytics
@electrolytics 2 жыл бұрын
The Best Heavyweight of All Time!
@ravenaussie3760
@ravenaussie3760 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about that one, but he's certainly up there.
@ravenaussie3760
@ravenaussie3760 Жыл бұрын
@Alien Observer Nah, he's not correct.
@Paulco67
@Paulco67 Жыл бұрын
Probably the classiest
@xavierlejon1244
@xavierlejon1244 Жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano shouldn’t even be considered a half decent clown in terms of boxing. Marciano’s opponents records stink to high heaven. Frankie Carbo the MAFIA BOSS sure could pick the set ups for his business partner Rocco Francis Marchegiano. Great invincibility 48 months 43 fights, perfect dream Frankie had more than likely cleaned up on those bets of set ups. Marciano’s records should be wiped clean off the Annals of Boxing History. Marciano is a disgrace, a lousy joke.
@AlwaysDazed
@AlwaysDazed 2 жыл бұрын
It's insane how well he speaks and how sharp he is when you look at the way he fought. Though his defense is underrated, he ate punches for his career. Hardest man to ever fight in the ring.
@blackDavidFrost-n-desmoines685
@blackDavidFrost-n-desmoines685 Жыл бұрын
You white Marciano lovers 💕 adore little Rocky's high-work-rate, but 6'2" 237 lb Ike "The President" Ibeabuchi threw a record breaking 975 punches vs David Tua in their 12 round fight, more than tiny penguin🐧arms was capable of. Authentic Heavyweight Ibeabuchi would've manhandled small Rocco and smashed him like a 🍇 grape.
@blackDavidFrost-n-desmoines685
@blackDavidFrost-n-desmoines685 Жыл бұрын
If racial bigotry was not the order of the day. If white privilege was not the priority, if Rocky Marciano, did not have the complexion for the connection, especially given the fact he never fought ONE SINGLE Black fighter in his Prime, Rocky Marciano WOULD NOT have been heavyweight champion. And consider this: Deontay Wilder, with a 93% KO Record, is doing WAAAAY BETTER as a heavyweight, than Marciano in his day could ever hope to do. AND YET, the racist, most white people call him “a bum.” Imagine that! Rocky Marciano was a mediocre fight knocking out cherry picked mediocre bums to pad his record and satisfy the wishes of white supremacy. Since his retirement 62 years ago, NOT ONE SINGLE white American has won the heavy title...NONE!!! Gee, I wonder why????!
@jamesmonteverde5538
@jamesmonteverde5538 Жыл бұрын
@@blackDavidFrost-n-desmoines685 Give it up dude, you really are funny on embarrassing yourself.
@louisvaccaro5865
@louisvaccaro5865 Жыл бұрын
wudda, kudda,shudda, no one really knows, rocky never ducked anyone, and took on all commers, there will always be better boxers to come around. so what!, what exactly are you trying to say? sounds like your just trying to say rocky wasnt the best!. well he was the best during that era. and he proved it.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 Жыл бұрын
@@Boots_on_the_ground well that's impossible, since he passed away at age 45. he shows no signs of dementia in any of his post retirement interviews
@meltedjax3619
@meltedjax3619 Жыл бұрын
How this man could be so articulate after what he has been through is mind blowing
@okrkyokrky
@okrkyokrky Жыл бұрын
I love watching him speak. So humble and gentlemanly. He was absolutely the greatest. How can anything be better than a perfect record with no losses. I was 9 years old when he died on Aug 31st 1969. I remember reading the headlines that he had died in a plane crash. It saddened me. Rest in peace Rocky, the greatest ever.
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD
@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD 10 ай бұрын
Fer two decades the Marciano's have been tryin to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot bcz it's all factual!!! Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. *He was seriously messed up.* His friends tried to help but he refused. He caused his own demise through his insatiable desire for sex and money.
@t4texastom587
@t4texastom587 Жыл бұрын
ROCKY MARCIANO MR. 49 - 0 THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF ALL-TIME 🥊🏆🥊
@hectorlopez1069
@hectorlopez1069 Жыл бұрын
Undefeated in his boxing career
@matthewsisk
@matthewsisk Жыл бұрын
So humble and classy
@stuartclements9290
@stuartclements9290 Жыл бұрын
A great fighter. Great heart. Donated most of his winnings to orphanage. Died in a plane crash. Sad.
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater Жыл бұрын
Any heavyweight champion under 200 pounds should be immediately removed from all record books or an asterisk (*) placed before their name meaning *Cruiserweight. Eventually it's gonna happen, mark my words.
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater Жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano will always be one of my favorites but I'm realist that understands his limitations. To think he could beat 6' 9" 277 lb 85" reach Tyson Fury or 6' 7.5" 250 lb 80" reach Vitali Klitschko is not practical. It's possible but not logical since the law of physics would be against him. I remember the old saying, "The bigger they are the harder they fall" and "TIMBER." But against proven professional Super Heavyweights it's very rare.
@Boots_on_the_ground
@Boots_on_the_ground Жыл бұрын
I'M WINNING I'M WINNING I'M WINNING 😂
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 Жыл бұрын
@@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater I hate this kind of talk. Because of nutrition and a general better standard of living ALL Athletes are bigger, faster, stronger than previous generations. A boxer can ONLY fight the people that are put in front of him. Nothing more can be asked of them.
@Leroy-qh9wx
@Leroy-qh9wx 2 ай бұрын
​@shirleymental418He didn't fight the ones right in front of him. Liston Patterson marshall all tried to get a shot. Racist promoters and mob ties denied those boxers their shot. What a big LIE!!
@adielstephenson2929
@adielstephenson2929 Жыл бұрын
I just love this guy. He's so intelligent, so articulate, so respectful. Huge contribution.
@VimBuscarFurico
@VimBuscarFurico 7 ай бұрын
I LOVE THIS MAN...GENUINE
@muxz
@muxz Жыл бұрын
I love that he said Jersey Joe Walcott was his toughest opponent. What a fight that was. Even better finish.
@kevinkruse7992
@kevinkruse7992 Жыл бұрын
Forever p Rocky Marciano Ring of fire the greatest of all time
@andrewzaltman6934
@andrewzaltman6934 Жыл бұрын
Love you Rocky ! R.I.P. 😢
@max2u21
@max2u21 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic man. Greatest fighter, iron man. Those muscles are just WOW!
@hectorlopez1069
@hectorlopez1069 Жыл бұрын
First, there was Rocky Marciano, and then, there was Rocky Balboa. The greatest boxers of italian descent.
@johnouellet4099
@johnouellet4099 9 ай бұрын
A class act and good man
@furtherdefinitions1
@furtherdefinitions1 8 ай бұрын
Back in the days when the fighters had class
@mikeyates7931
@mikeyates7931 2 жыл бұрын
I think , Joe Louis put it Best : "God got Himself a Beautiful Man"
@bulterriersanromangomez2152
@bulterriersanromangomez2152 Жыл бұрын
Un Fenómeno Marciano Rocky .... Además tenía un semblante de bonachón , El mejor de la Historia
@manleykevin6969
@manleykevin6969 6 ай бұрын
you know, i have watched boxing fights of old for probably 30 years. and you have to say, what a man and what a fighter. look at the men he fought. Walcott and the rest- he was the top of his game and the best ever. no question. the best. and so humble and respectful. found his punching power when he was in wales in the US army in WW2 did he not? just watch the 52 yankee stadium fight with Walcott. Wow. Just the very best ever. period. what a champion.
@surrealistidealist
@surrealistidealist 6 ай бұрын
John Cameron has a great biography of Marciano. Volume 1 is already out. Volume 2 is coming soon.
@lordburlap4514
@lordburlap4514 Жыл бұрын
Down to earth...THE ROCK!
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
AFTER FURTHER REVIEW 'THE ROCK' WAS ACTUALLY "HORSESHIT"
@maraluciaduclosduclos7496
@maraluciaduclosduclos7496 9 ай бұрын
Ele tinha um jeito de ser pessoa muito boa. Boxeador de primeira categoria e fez grande sucesso.
@aldonelson5757
@aldonelson5757 Жыл бұрын
The Rock had some guns
@LoveLife-wy8gt
@LoveLife-wy8gt Жыл бұрын
Sullivan sounds like he loved boxing .
@skyjuke2006
@skyjuke2006 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous 🤩 Love and greetings from Italy 🇮🇹♥️
@joemaraioboston4596
@joemaraioboston4596 Жыл бұрын
I’m blown away at how humble and genuine this man is. When he says he would turn down $1 million in that time do you understand what that kind of money was back then? And the thing is I believe him he’s an honest lovable guy who was a vicious ferocious beast as well. God bless you Guy. And God bless your family
@xavierlejon1244
@xavierlejon1244 Жыл бұрын
Honest, really ! Marciano’s business partner was Frankie Carbo a Mafia Boss and enforcer in the Fight game. Yup Frankie Carbo ran the fight game from the early 1940s thru the late 1950s the very periods of Rocco Francis Marchegiano’s entire Boxing career. You can bet, and Frankie did bet on all Rocco’s fights he set up/fixed. Yeah as honest as Dirty Donnie Trumpturd.
@dr.doolittle4763
@dr.doolittle4763 Жыл бұрын
One of the strongest Heavyweight Champions of all time. His stamina was legendary.
@Leroy-qh9wx
@Leroy-qh9wx 2 ай бұрын
​@@dr.doolittle4763Please!! Liston Patterson would have put him in ICU. Marty Marshall would have done the same. Charles was already sick Walcott and Moore should have been sitting in rocking chairs. A big fraud and mobbed up.
@ronniecozzi8385
@ronniecozzi8385 Жыл бұрын
A man of class when in the United States class and character were important.
@dr.doolittle4763
@dr.doolittle4763 Жыл бұрын
It was a great time in American culture.
@maciekjoker9095
@maciekjoker9095 11 ай бұрын
8 years of professional career and fighting with the best. Not like today, when Tyson Fury chooses the easiest opponents. Respect for Rocky.
@Boots_on_the_ground
@Boots_on_the_ground 6 ай бұрын
Little Rocky had the easiest opposition. All middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights. At least Fury is fighting genuine topnotch Super Heavyweights not tiny middleweights.
@Boots_on_the_ground
@Boots_on_the_ground 6 ай бұрын
Marciano opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they were. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using grades A, B, C, D, and F which has been used in boxing for decades:* Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL* Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL* Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less. Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less. Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less. Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less. Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less. Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents. Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the overwhelming majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-LEVEL resume @ welterweight and middleweight. Matthews was a-natural lightweight, welterweight, middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible "Heavyweight" opponents to be respected as a legitimate "Heavyweight" champion?* *Even little 184lb cruiserweight Rocky's 5 best opponents: 3 light heavyweights and 2 cruiserweights -- Charles Moore LaStarza Layne Walcott -- LOST ((94)) times and were KO'D ((28)) times!!!* IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0: D AND F-LEVEL AMATEUR WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE *In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine* Name one, just one *"prime"* ATG fighter little 184lb-cruiser Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Charles Moore Walcott Louis were in their prime when they fought Marciano?
@Boots_on_the_ground
@Boots_on_the_ground 6 ай бұрын
*(287)* lb Zhang, *(277)* lb Fury, *(272)* lb Ngannou, *(260)* lb Makhmudov vs. little *(184)* lb Rocky. Little *184lb* cruiser Rocky's 49-0 came against *middleweights* and *light heavyweights* moonlighting as Heavyweights. Little Rocky's little era was 3 generations ago and it's *Gone Finished History.*
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 6 ай бұрын
@@Boots_on_the_ground "One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston "Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis "The one fighter who might have beaten me." Muhammed Ali My manager waited for Rocky to Retire before he dare let me fight as a heavyweight Floyd Patterson "The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." Don Turner trainer for Evander Holyfield "Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." -Joe Frazier "Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles "Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott "Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore "Trained harder than anyone ever." -Don Turner, trainer "Hit you so so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa. - Muhammed Ali "Broke blood vessels in my arms. Took weeks for my arm to recover." -Roland LaStarza
@user-oi7ve7js6s
@user-oi7ve7js6s Ай бұрын
Wow what a class act we could use more like him today 💪☝️
@greglemieux9809
@greglemieux9809 Жыл бұрын
God bless your Rocky.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@williammorton3359
@williammorton3359 Жыл бұрын
All my respect to Marciano. The very last man I would want to fight. I’ve seen Tyson get the shit kicked outof him. Never seen any man move Marciano. The man was cut out of granite. He was a cornerstone. The only man in this era that may have beaten Marciano was Lennox Lewis. Just because he was so much bigger. But it’s still 50/50. Joe Lewis was much bigger to and look what Marciano did to him.
@RichardKuklinsky
@RichardKuklinsky Жыл бұрын
Such a great man: a tiger in the ring and lamb and example for everybody, in everyday life. Happy 100 years Birthday Rock , you are not forgotten.
@rokmin8550
@rokmin8550 9 ай бұрын
I'm 35 so my only contact with older fighters are film (you tube) its just amazing how different the people were back then, I think I was born too late.
@MostlyBrenda
@MostlyBrenda 2 жыл бұрын
Retired at 32, undefeated at 49-0. Died at age 45 in a small plane crash in Iowa in 1969. The Safety Board investigation said the pilot was too inexperienced to be flying in bad weather at night. Sounds like the Buddy Holly crash. 😢
@karlhungus8841
@karlhungus8841 2 жыл бұрын
True story: He broke my grandfather’s nose. He was a training partner when he trained in my state and the workouts he did were inhuman. He could collapse your lung with a 4” punch. They were horsing around after sparring and Rocky popped him which gave him his signature feature the rest of his life. My 4’9” Italian grandmother then proceed to give Rocky a beating (that he laughed thru) with one of her wooden spoons, in her kitchen when he had to go explain it to her. Then he ate about 2lbs of her cavatelli (with trimmings). Yea, that plane crash.. Another ridiculous-based tragedy that never should of happened. God bless him.
@tonysearightinvestmenteduc2566
@tonysearightinvestmenteduc2566 2 жыл бұрын
And only fought 1947-1955....
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysearightinvestmenteduc2566 Retired on April 27, 1956 at 49-0 43 KO's...
@Jabbing_Jack
@Jabbing_Jack 2 жыл бұрын
🤢 U can tell Rocky's lying about his family. It's just a PR image. Because the honest Truth is he immediately abandoned his kids and wife too sleep with thousands then left them penniless.
@Jabbing_Jack
@Jabbing_Jack 2 жыл бұрын
🗣️Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century. Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. Rocky moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters. What I knew about Marciano before I read the book Unbeaten was that he cowardly retired during his prime right before he would have had to fight the lik' of Patterson, Liston, and Clay to name just a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked up in jail for 2 years. I did not know of the mob's influence in his career. Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champion were of dubious quality. Joe Louis was far beyond his prime. Journeyman Joe Walcott was 38/39 years old. Former middleweight turned light heavyweight grandfather Archie Moore was 41 and Ezzard Charles best years were behind him at light heavyweight. For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys." Rocky was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents. He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
@whitneywilliams317
@whitneywilliams317 4 ай бұрын
Can't lie Marciano's a pretty big guy compared to the average man
@patrickhealy3075
@patrickhealy3075 2 ай бұрын
From Brockton mass, city of champs 💪🏼
@Grizzlied555
@Grizzlied555 3 ай бұрын
G.O.A.T.
@RoRo-kc8zv
@RoRo-kc8zv Ай бұрын
He makes me want to be a better man
@johnmurrin9734
@johnmurrin9734 Жыл бұрын
awesome and thankyou!
@guirosasilva
@guirosasilva 9 ай бұрын
A humble guy, so distinct than Ali and his arrogance!
@donbenson2099
@donbenson2099 8 ай бұрын
Most of his challengers Had a longer reach up to 11 inches longer, and weighted a lot more. How he won it is easy he just beat them into submission fighters complained that their arms were numb months after a fight with Rocky
@christopherbako
@christopherbako 5 ай бұрын
1956. My Mom wasn't even born yet. May 13, 1958 I was born December 11, 1978.😊
@kevintrace5396
@kevintrace5396 2 жыл бұрын
Great man ol rocco wa a gent too 👍
@donbenson2099
@donbenson2099 8 ай бұрын
You compete against the people of your era not the people born 40 years later.
@3rdStoneObliterum
@3rdStoneObliterum 2 жыл бұрын
amazing clip
@jamespercival5371
@jamespercival5371 2 жыл бұрын
Had mohamid ale in the fiftys he would have beaten him
@CallumConnor-zx2rg
@CallumConnor-zx2rg 8 ай бұрын
Outside of the ring has a contribution to who is the greatest fighter ever. That's why people like Mayweather and so forth will never be granted that title. Rocky Marciano, the greatest ever.
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 3 ай бұрын
He retired in April 1956...about 8 months here.
@Dottor_J
@Dottor_J Жыл бұрын
all class
@n.y.c.freddy
@n.y.c.freddy Жыл бұрын
**ED Sullivan! (Sunday's = SHOW!) *America's SHOW then! ***ROCKY.,,**MARCIANO! ., Sorely missed! *PEACE!
@turoatarai2971
@turoatarai2971 10 ай бұрын
Humble but ready to rumble
@bob7615
@bob7615 7 ай бұрын
He was knocked down in the first round by Jersey Joe Walcott with a left hook. It was a tough fight for him to come back in the 11th but did it .
@giorgiomarena6347
@giorgiomarena6347 10 ай бұрын
A Great boxer,but A Greater as a man.
@wallaceb9120
@wallaceb9120 Жыл бұрын
A class act...like the klitchko brothgers
@timothytremblay7763
@timothytremblay7763 Жыл бұрын
The only One of his Kind.
@roybeckerman7843
@roybeckerman7843 Жыл бұрын
A Sonny Liston, Rocky Marciano fight would have been interesting. A few years apart, unfortunately..
@chriswerner5791
@chriswerner5791 Жыл бұрын
I'll take the Rock in any Era against anyone.
@user-bk9fk2tq2z
@user-bk9fk2tq2z 6 ай бұрын
Rocky Marciano may have been the GOAT.
@chriswerner5791
@chriswerner5791 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-bk9fk2tq2z I believe the Rock would systematically destroy heavyweights in any Era. I consider him the G.O.A.T. most certainly.
@SPOOKSTR
@SPOOKSTR Жыл бұрын
Google up a photo of his hands. It will blow your mind.
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
Facts proving how small the 50s heavyweight era actually was: -(Archie Moore is the only boxer in history to be ranked as #1 contender in 3 of the original 8 weight classes: middleweight in 1942, light heavyweight in 1950, heavyweight in 1955. Archie fought as a middleweight from 1935 to 1945, compiling a record of 70-9-5. Moore in his best years at light heavyweight went 79-10-3 from 1945 to his clash with Marciano in 1955. Case closed. The 50s heavyweight division was all about the light heavyweights (Moore, Charles, Maxim, Bivins, Johnson, Pastrano, Marshall, Matthews, etcetera) fightin back and forth 40 times amongst each other. The other dominant person was cruiserweight Walcott who lost to light heavyweights Charles twice, Fox twice, Maxim, Brothers, Taylor, AND middleweights Mays, Palmer, and Ketchell. Journeyman Walcott lost all throughout his entire career, beginning, middle, and end. In summary Rocky's best 3 opponents were 2 light heavyweights and 1 cruiserweight. And to make matters worse, Moore was factually 41 years of age and Walcott was 38 and 39. End of. (And for those several bigger opponents that Rocky fought who weighed up to 250 lbs were TERRIBLE boxers, otherwise we would constantly hear about them)
@t4texastom587
@t4texastom587 Жыл бұрын
@jimcushman Apparently you are related to one of Marciano's victims. Don't be embarrassed......he battered the hell out of ALL of them. Just out of curiosity, which one are you kin to?
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 Жыл бұрын
So when, in their respective careers were Moore and Walcott at their best? What were their prime years?
@itsgleneaton4883
@itsgleneaton4883 Жыл бұрын
I think if people make the effort to try to behave more respectfully to others I think that will cause a ripple effect as time goes on. So we in this generation can make that change but it’s going to have to start with you.
@Greyskyz55
@Greyskyz55 Жыл бұрын
👍😁
@gent_swag
@gent_swag Жыл бұрын
Men were tougher back then
@christopherbako
@christopherbako 5 ай бұрын
I did fight. 13-2 As amateur. I honestly got tired of getting hit.😊
@gabepettiford2493
@gabepettiford2493 2 жыл бұрын
The information that I read on the great Rocky, I feel hard to believe he'll turn down that kinda money.
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez 2 жыл бұрын
He was much too scared of Sonny Liston from 1958 thru 1964. He also knew Patterson was younger and faster. Remember that Rocky only fought old men and bums.
@TheTruthTalker_
@TheTruthTalker_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez He had retired 3 years prior to 1958, so your comment doesn't make any sense
@MiguelBaptista1981
@MiguelBaptista1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Hey keyboard bum, I know with an attitude like that, you'll catch a few in this life. Enjoy them, suck it up.
@2020Mastro
@2020Mastro 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez BULL * Shit
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez floyd Patterson was light heavyweight while marciano was active.Patterson only became heavyweight after rocky retired.And that wasn’t just bad timing.floyd Patterson was purposely kept away from heavyweight till marciano retired.Floyd manager cus dematto didn’t want Patterson nowhere near marciano as he couldn’t see floyd winning that fight.And Patterson agreed
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Жыл бұрын
How many losses did the Best Heavyweight Champions of all time have: Ali 5,, Foreman 5,, Holmes 6,, Lewis 2,, Louis 3,, Tyson 6,, Frazier 4,, Holyfield 10,, Vitali 2,, Wladimir 5,, Liston 4,, Bowe 1,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES -- Lennox Lewis
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
Had little rocky had a normal duration boxing career like "Everyone" else did, he woulda had to face the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Folley, Liston, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Cleveland, and Chuvalo just to name a few. Instead he only had to deal with Light-heavyweights similar to Matthews, Lowry, Charles, Moore, etc. Little rocky is damned lucky he quit when he did.
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater Жыл бұрын
Y'all fail to ever mention Marciano's Forced retirement. Why? Because Marciano couldn't take the pain anymore from two confirmed nose surgeries, hand surgery, hundreds of stitches, chronic back pain and constant migraines cause his head was used as a Pinata constantly gettin smacked around,, here,, you hit me five times,, and I'll hit you back one time,, Duh. And all that talk about retiring for his family nonsense was simply a bull•••• publicity stunt because he immediately abandoned his family and left them penniless when he perished.
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater
@blackDavidFrost-Rockyhater Жыл бұрын
Gypsy King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and bewilder him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and smash out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. He ain't getting the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins. Anyway he chooses.
@idx1941
@idx1941 Жыл бұрын
Rocky retired in 1956, Ali fought Liston in 1964....so you expect Rocky to have fought for 8 more years? Shows you know nothing of the sport.
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
@@idx1941 why not? EVERYONE ELSE DID !!!! not are you only clueless about boxing but casual as well
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
@@idx1941 why is it okay for Louis, Walcott, Moore, and Charles to fight 15 years??? But not Marciano??? Because you don't want yer little hero to lose which he DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE!!! Shows you know nothing of the sport.
@BBQFanNo1
@BBQFanNo1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big Marciano fan more than Ali, Foreman, Frazier or Holmes fan but I humbly and seriously do not think Marciano would have as successfully been able to handle Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Frazier or even Liston as well as he handled the fighters he faced during his 49-0 career. There is a continuing argument about who is the greatest and which will never be known because all are long ago deceased now most never having actually faced each other in their prime. Foreman fought Lyle and Young after he was defeated against Ali and after he went the longest time in his career without a fight. The only year in Foreman's first run 1969 to 1977 that he didn't fight a bout was in 1975. Plus Foreman pounded Lyle against the ropes and might have scored a KO, but due to a timekeeping error, the bell rang with a minute still remaining in the round and Lyle survived dragging the fight on more dramatically longer than under the rules it should have. Louis fought Marciano when he was a sad shadow of what he actually used to be. Ali fought Holmes when he was a sad shadow of what he actually use to be. Holmes also never faced the Foreman before his 1974 defeat against Ali. The unbeaten prime Foreman who quickly destroyed the Norton without breaking a sweat that gave Holmes the most trouble in Holmes unbeaten run.
@gregoryphillips3969
@gregoryphillips3969 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@jerrylanglois7892
@jerrylanglois7892 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he gets credit for his perfect record but he certainly didn't face the level of talent of those 70's heavyweights.
@gregoryphillips3969
@gregoryphillips3969 Жыл бұрын
@@jerrylanglois7892 Thank you
@TheTruthTalker_
@TheTruthTalker_ Жыл бұрын
@@jerrylanglois7892 Of course he didnt and you know why? Because he fought in the 50's, not the 70's. Stop with the dumb comparisons. By that logic there's no way Holmes could beat Tyson Fury. Pointless comparisons.
@jerrylanglois7892
@jerrylanglois7892 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTruthTalker_ The issue is how marciano stands compared to heavy weight champs and contenders of the 70's so how is it a dumb comparison ? You just don't like him being put in his proper place, right ?
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 Жыл бұрын
Facts proving how small the 50s heavyweight era actually was: -(Archie Moore is the only boxer in history to be ranked as #1 contender in 3 of the original 8 weight classes: middleweight in 1942, light heavyweight in 1950, heavyweight in 1955. Archie fought as a middleweight from 1935 to 1945, compiling a record of 70-9-5. Moore in his best years at light heavyweight went 79-10-3 from 1945 to his clash with Marciano in 1955. Case closed.
@JeffPenaify
@JeffPenaify Жыл бұрын
you gonna ignore Archie being undefeated as a heavyweight and dominating much larger opponents such as Nino Valdes and Bob Baker?
@diamondblue5327
@diamondblue5327 9 ай бұрын
Marciano was every thing Ali wasn't.
@sebastianmalte7894
@sebastianmalte7894 2 ай бұрын
Boxers back then were gentleman, sportsmen! You couldn’t ask for better in Joe Louis and Rocky! It took Cassius Clay to bring his loudmouth in and ruin the gentleman sportsmanship that was once represented so well in the boxing arena.
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Жыл бұрын
Foreman probably the most formidable puncher in boxing history said that Liston is the only man he ever faced that made him back up and revert to boxing. Watch the footage of Foreman destroying Frazier twice and of Liston destroying Patterson twice. That’s what would happen to little Rocky if he met Foreman or Liston. Sonny had an-albatross 84 inch reach. Rocky had a-stubby 67 inch reach. A 17 inch reach advantage is a tall order to overcome, but when the man with the reach advantage is the most fearsome puncher in history it’s insurmountable. Marciano’s style was tailor made for Liston. Rocky would get knocked into tomorrow before he could get close enough to land any damaging shots of his own. Liston’s power and reach would have been too much for the plodding face first style of Marciano.
@tabibnialawfirm
@tabibnialawfirm Жыл бұрын
You can't really pit fighters from different eras against each other. How would Liston fare against today's HWs, for instance? Consider that Marciano intentionally kept his weight low for stamina purposes. After retirement, he easily gained 50 lbs. So, he could have gained 15-20 pounds to fight Liston, who was only about 210 lbs., himself. Liston was also somewhat slow and never really faced a devastating inside puncher with stamina like Marciano. It would be an interesting fight. How would Marciano respond to Liston's great jab? How would Liston deal with Marciano's stamina, relentlessness and inside punching?
@DreDaDon16
@DreDaDon16 10 ай бұрын
They don't even have boxers on late night shows anymore just Kardashians and popstars
@paulthompkins4150
@paulthompkins4150 11 ай бұрын
49 fights in 8 years?! The wimps today like Mayweather and the other self proclaimed "GOATS" are nothing compared to fighters back then.
@foxmacnamara8809
@foxmacnamara8809 Ай бұрын
Class act. Anyone cut from that cloth nowadays??
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
Any heavyweight champion under 200 pounds should be immediately removed from all record books or an asterisk (*) placed before their name meaning *Cruiserweight. Eventually it's gonna happen, mark my words.
@bobbyd1478
@bobbyd1478 Жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano will always be one of my favorites but I'm realist that understands his limitations. To think he could beat 6' 9" 277 lb 85" reach Tyson Fury or 6' 7.5" 250 lb 80" reach Vitali Klitschko is not practical. It's possible but not logical since the law of physics would be against him. I remember the old saying, "The bigger they are the harder they fall" and "TIMBER." But against proven professional Super Heavyweights it's very rare.
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy 6 ай бұрын
It was a good decision for rocky Marciano did not tried to fight Cassius clay. His stamina will be questionable clay can dance and can avoid his fatal punches clay can float like a butterfly for 15 rounds
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
See what BoxRec, The RING, Professionals and Historians factually said about light-heavyweights Charles/Moore and cruiser Walcott: Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times Walcott Lost (20) times and was KOd (5) times Savold Lost (43) times and was KO'd (12) times Lowry Lost (68) times yet took little rocky the distance Twice Louis Bravely fought (69) times.............little Rocky quit at 49 Walcott Bravely fought (70) times.........little Rocky quit at 49 Charles Bravely fought (121) times.......little Rocky quit at 49 Moore Bravely fought (220) times.........little Rocky quit at 49 Savold Bravely fought (142) times........little Rocky quit at 49 Matthews Bravely fought (103) times...little Rocky quit at 49 LaStarza Bravely fought (66) times.......little Rocky quit at 49 Cockell Bravely fought (81) times.........little Rocky quit at 49 Lowry Bravely fought (150) times.........little Rocky quit at 49 Louis Bravely fought (17) years...........little Rocky only 8 years Walcott Bravely fought (23) years.......little Rocky only 8 years Charles Bravely fought (20) years.......little Rocky only 8 years Moore Bravely fought (27) years.........little Rocky only 8 years Savold Bravely fought (19) years........little Rocky only 8 years Matthews Bravely fought (19) years...little Rocky only 8 years LaStarza Bravely fought (14) years.....little Rocky only 8 years Cockell Bravely fought (10) years.......little Rocky only 8 years Lowry Bravely fought (16) years.........little Rocky only 8 years Shocking isn't it. We never see these statistics because they are always suppressed. Imagine if today's Heavyweights Fury and Usyk had losing records like that? They would be NOBODIES!!!! Does this mean Canelo Alvarez can lose his next 20 fights and still become an ATG just like cruiserweight Journeyman Walcott and Journeymen light-heavyweights Charles and Moore?
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 Жыл бұрын
And lets see what they have to say about Rocky was named the fourth greatest heavyweight of all-time by The Ring in 1994. Marciano was named the seventh greatest puncher of all-time by The Ring in 1997. Marciano was named the ninth greatest fighter of the 20th century by The Ring in 1999. Marciano was named the third greatest heavyweight of the 20th century by the Associated Press in 1999. Looks pretty good to me
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyd1776 Consider that in the December 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Marciano finishing a distant 7th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 7th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’ 5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Marciano? This is a key point. Nat Fleischer rated Marciano at # 10, Charley Rose rated him at # 9, McCallum's survey of old-timers had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Maricano in their lifetime thought he was a top 7 all time heavyweight and 67 years have passed since Rocky retired. I understand the formula ranking bodies use. Problem is they never use WEIGHT as criteria. For example: THE RING GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHTS OF ALL TIME has '185' lb Marciano 4th and '165' lb Bob Fitzsimmons 20th (nonsense). THE RING acknowledges 18 different weight classes but they don't acknowledge WEIGHT to determine THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHTS OF ALL TIME. So middleweight Fitzsimmons should be ranked higher than giant Riddick Bowe?? And to make matters worse THE RING has '165' lb Fitzsimmons ranked No. 8 as the Most Powerful Puncher of all time -- Wiki. Anybody that takes these rankings with more than a grain of salt are not only casual but desperate. Rocky fanboys are the only ones that cling to these rankings, quotes, and stats as if it were life and death. You'll never see Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Tyson or Klitschko brothers being defended with quotes and/or rankings. But with Rocky fans it's always Don Turner said this or Ali said that, or little Rocky was voted the greatest heavyweight fighter of the 20th century and the greatest puncher of all-time. Sportswriters get paid good money for their vivid imaginations.
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyd1776 Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles only weighed 181 pounds when he won his 'vacant' Super Heavyweight title against cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott in 1949. Exactly two years later Charles weighed a massive 182 pounds when he lost his Super Heavyweight title to you guessed it, 194 pound Journeyman Joe again. The fact that Walcott was granted 6 title attempts in a 6 year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time. Five of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott Loss!!! So how the hell did Walcott get 6 attempts? Because the so-called 'Heavyweight' division was nonexistent, and he was the closest to being genuine Heavyweight. The 200+lb Heavyweights that did exist (Wilson Shkor Jackson) were horseshit. 230lb undercard B-level Bill Wilson lost 50% of all his fights. 220lb C-level Johnny Shkor lost 62% of all his fights. 254lb amateur Humphrey "The-Bum" Jackson had 4 wins 3 losses. Journeyman Joe was B-level undercard fighter at best. Overall he Lost (20) times and was KOd (6) times. Walcott's most notable victories include wins over Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles, Light heavyweight Joey Maxim and Light heavyweight Harold Johnson. Light heavyweight Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times. Light heavyweight Maxim Lost (29) times. Light heavyweight Johnson Lost (11) times and was KO'd (5) times. Light heavyweight Archie Moore Lost (23) times was and KOd (7) times. Would it have been ok if Marciano Lost (25) times and was KTFO (7) times? Of course not. If little Marciano had so much as a 'Draw', he wouldn't even be ranked top 20. Lennox Lewis constantly catches hell for being KO'd (2) times. Sonny Liston constantly catches hell for losing to Light heavyweight Marty Marshall. Yet it's always acceptable for Charles, Walcott and Moore to lose a combined (68) times. Why? Answer the question. Why?
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyd1776 that nonsense never did work with me. I'm not Grand Duke!!!! I don't waste my time with those nonsensical conversations
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 Жыл бұрын
@@Studentofsweetscience Hey Freak Boy. When are you going to show me the geometry and trigonometry you used to calculate Walcotts winning percentage. It has been over a month and you are still silent on the matter. Why is that? Could it be because you don't know what you are talking about? Why yes, I think so
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 Жыл бұрын
Imagine little 185 lb Rocky with his exceptionally short 67" flyweight reach tryin to fight top-notch Super Heavyweights with 80" to 85" albatross wingspans and 40 to 90 lb weight advantages. Never in the history of boxing has a 185 lb champion beat a Super Heavyweight champion. That tiny old-school 1950s cruiserweight era is Gone. Finished. Histor
@alexanderangelo7284
@alexanderangelo7284 9 ай бұрын
If only it could have been 50-0
@Section5_CdnIntelService
@Section5_CdnIntelService Жыл бұрын
Gave everyone his manager thought deserved a chance. He ducked Earl Walls and Nino Valdez. There is some question still about a few of his early opponents.
@TheThemattyo1
@TheThemattyo1 Жыл бұрын
Archie Moore gave him hell also " Rocky would not beat any of the giants today. at his time a heavyweight was anyone over 180lbs so he beat alot of cruiser weights. How ever Rocky could bash them up real good. He would never fight a non boxer and give himself (50-0 ) the way Floyd did. All of Rocky's fights were governed by a sanctioning body of boxing.
@Studentofsweetscience
@Studentofsweetscience Жыл бұрын
Imagine little 185 lb Rocky with his exceptionally short 67" flyweight reach tryin to fight top-notch Super Heavyweights with 80" to 85" albatross wingspans and 40 to 90 lb weight advantages. Never in the history of boxing has a 185 lb champion beat a Super Heavyweight champion. That tiny old-school 1950s cruiserweight era is Gone. Finished. History.
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 Жыл бұрын
Facts proving how small the 50s heavyweight era actually was: -(Archie Moore is the only boxer in history to be ranked as #1 contender in 3 of the original 8 weight classes: middleweight in 1942, light heavyweight in 1950, heavyweight in 1955. Archie fought as a middleweight from 1935 to 1945, compiling a record of 70-9-5. Moore in his best years at light heavyweight went 79-10-3 from 1945 to his clash with Marciano in 1955. Case closed.
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727
@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 Жыл бұрын
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century. Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. Rocky moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters.
@bobbyd1776
@bobbyd1776 Жыл бұрын
@@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 Look at Freak Boy using his black David account to respond to a post from his Lord Burlap account. That is not normal. Do you talk to yourself often? That nickname you have, Freak Boy, is well deserved
@jim2376
@jim2376 2 жыл бұрын
After he retired, Marciano became known as "America's Guest". Never bought anyone a drink. Want him to make an appearance? Substantial cash, always in $100's, and a blonde. "America's Guest".
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez
@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez 2 жыл бұрын
Fact's. He was demon behind closed doors.
@richardmilliken8705
@richardmilliken8705 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad "Gig" if you can get it. All cash under the table. Gotta luv it.
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