Rode Lavalier II - What's New?

[@thomasfransson]

Do you have a favorite Lavalier?

[@XanderEwald]

Sanken Cos-11D is my favourite so far, but I had good experiences with Rode lav's too.

[@TheLuxuryHomeShow]

Fantastic review, thank you!

[@thomasfransson]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@X99Zero]

0:11, should the "safety ring" be removed for better fit since it has no function on wireless go ii? I've seen some users online remove it but then I'm concerned I might push it inside and something but break without the ring there.

[@thomasfransson]

Great question, I just leave it on. Keeps dirt and dust out of the threads and less chance of losing the little bugger ;)

[@GaryDmedia]

Awesome review Thomas, your video is so cinematic. I really thought your comparison was very well explained. Thanks.

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you Gary, glad it was helpful. And thanks for the compliments on the footage.

[@robertgrounds8725]

Was trying to find a good comparison video, and I found it! I was considering the Lavalier II for my motorcycle rides. After this, I think I will go with the GO version. Makes sense now haha. Thanks!

[@thomasfransson]

Sounds like a great choice

[@mugenph641]

Will the wind protection come off during motorcycle rides?

[@EveryThingTechet]

I have a BOYA-BY M1. Keep up the good work. You're inching closer to 1K :)

[@thomasfransson]

Still one of my favorites!

[@thomasfransson]

Inching away! 😉 Thank you for supporting me.

[@mugenph641]

Will the wind proof foam/fur come off during motorcycle rides?

[@thomasfransson]

That's a good question. While it's on there pretty tight thanks to the little rubber ring on the furry, I may not survive a motorcycle ride. If it was me, I'd probably add a drop of glue, just to be safe.

[@mugenph641]

@@thomasfransson would it record a lot of outside noise during a motorcycle ride if I wont attach a wind furry on it?

[@wayneknetter]

Is there an over-the-ear frame that will place the lav in front or beside my mouth. For commentating a game of lawn bowls I want to talk softer as I'm not far from when speaking and I don't really want the talk on the green to be pick up by the mic (sometimes they curse!)

[@thomasfransson]

I hear you =) Yes, you should check out the Rode HS2 and the Rode Lav Headset depending on your budget, choice of lav and so forth. And don't forget to get a mini furry of some sort if you decide to go with another lav than the Lavalier II that comes with one in the package.

[@RidersUnited]

I record a lot in big empty garage with a lot of echo. Do you think this Lav go 2 would be better for this environment. Unfortunately lav set up is only way I can go.

[@thomasfransson]

If there's echo, there's usually going to be some degree of echo being picked up by the microphone. A lavalier is definitely a great choice for those situations. Your body will act like a shield or acoustic treatment for the microphone and reduce the amount of reflections being picked up by the microphone. Even with the front facing capsule the lavalier II will probably get you pretty good results. You could experiment with the placement and try to wear it fairly high up on your clothing. Another option could be the lavalier Go which might offer a slightly more directional pickup pattern. But in all honesty, it's a fairly small difference between those two in that regard, and the Lavalier II takes the cake when it comes to overall sound quality. Another option would be to find a corner in the garage where you could hang some thick fabric or blankets on the walls and maybe a cheap rug on the floor. These types of dampened V-shaped corners can work surprisingly well if you’re not happy with the results you get from the lavalier. Sorry about the long answer, but it always difficult to know exactly what's going to be the best solution. But a lavalier mounted close to your mouth is a great starting point. And by close maybe 2nd button on a shirt.

[@RidersUnited]

@@thomasfransson thank you so much. I am actually glad for long answer as it provides helpful information. You have one awesome channel sir. Appreciate your time and effort.

[@thomasfransson]

@@RidersUnited Glad if I'm able to help. Thank you for the kind words

[@2010katan]

Thank you for very good review

[@chrit4035]

please answer. good for singing? I have a bandlab in android it is a recording software if the microphone is also for recording singing so I would buy it

[@thomasfransson]

If the goal is to have an ultra compact recording set-up for your Android device it could work (Don't forget the TRRS adapter) The only thing that might be a concern is clipping the microphone depending on what type of music/singing. If it's very loud singing.

[@ericelter3801]

Great explanation, thank you!

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you

[@archer1x257]

What's the name of the Song in the Video?

[@thomasfransson]

Could you give me a time stamp and I'll see if I can find it for you.

[@archer1x257]

@@thomasfransson It starts @ 5:00.

[@nsa5]

Can this be used with DJI Mic 2?

[@thomasfransson]

Yes, it has a 3.5mm trs connector that fits the DJI mic 2

[@nsa5]

@@thomasfransson Awesome, thank you!

[@thomasfransson]

My pleasure

[@defjam3079]

does the quality change when using the lavalier mic directly into the phone vs into the Rode Go II?

[@thomasfransson]

I guess it depends on how good of a job the input on the device does. Some phones will probably sound same/better and some worse despite loss due to the wireless transmission. The absolute best quality will be obtained with the GO II if you utilize it's internal recording feature and bypass the camera or phone completely. There's also the added advantage of having the safety track feature if you're using the GO II - incase you clip the main channel. But for most online use, recording on your phone will probably be good enough. It depends on what works best for you and the level of quality your projects need.

[@defjam3079]

@@thomasfransson ok thanks this helps alot. And ur saying that that the GO II has works as an independent recording device and i can add that audio to the project file after?

[@thomasfransson]

@@defjam3079 Yes, that's right. You can set it to start recording as soon as turn the unit on or to only start recording when it detects the receiver. So it can be used as a stand alone field recorder basically. Freeing up your phone for other things.

[@defjam3079]

@@thomasfransson just followed u on instagram

[@suionyou]

Thanks!

[@thomasfransson]

No problem!

[@hosnospslygap]

Woww that's is nice video!! I'd love to get it. But I also want to know about Synco G2A2. How about it?

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you, I haven't tried the Synco G2A2 so I couldn't tell you what would be the better option. I hope you figure it out. Cheers!

[@creativenords]

Super bra Tomas! Snyggt!

[@thomasfransson]

Tack!

[@BerantalvVlogs]

Sending my support from the Philippines

[@DR19X]

bro this video is good.

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you, so glad you liked it.

[@thefilmbrothers20]

Thanks for the review, my main complaint with the LAV 1 GO is that it has very little shielding & therefore RF interferences has been an issue on jobs I’ve done. The LAV II is touted as having full shielding & therefore superior RF interference rejection. Have you been able to do any test along these lines? Thanks again

[@thomasfransson]

Interesting! I've not done any tests, but if I get the time I will. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[@thefilmbrothers20]

@@thomasfransson Fantastic, well I record a podcast bi-weekly in an old museum & its one of the jobs where RF is a real issue with my Wireless GOII system, bearing in mind it’s ok with just the transmitters, but as soon as I plug the LAVs in I have real RF issues and so for the next one which is on the 31st I should have 2 Lav IIs by then & if you haven’t had time I’ll no doubt be able to do a proper A-B & I can provide you with feedback on how it went:). Yea, I’ve taken a bit of a plunge in that I’m buying the 2 without knowing if they’ll handle the RF issue, but unlike the Lav I these actually do say “Full shielding for RF interference reflection”, where the Lav I says nothing of shielding, etc.

[@dopaminehouse4359]

who is better? rode lavalier ii vs sennheiser me2

[@thomasfransson]

They are both great options and will do a great job on most types of voices in my opinion. I've used the Rode far more than the ME-2 II so my opinion might be colored. One of the things I like with the RODE is the cable lenght - it's easier to deal with and hide if you're using a wireless system. One of the strenghts with the ME-2 is that it's easier to find spare parts like clips and wind guards if you need to replace these.

[@LolitaRibeiro]

How does the mic quality compare to the one from Sony’s uwp d11?

[@thomasfransson]

If we compare the specs it's an even pull. The Rode have a better frequency response as well being more sensitive and having a better signal to noise ratio. While the Sony ecm v1bmp is a bit more unlikely to clip if you’re screaming really loud. Giving it a bigger dynamic range. But unless you're really loud and scream a lot, this might not be a deciding factor.

[@LolitaRibeiro]

@@thomasfransson thanks for the detailed feedback! ;)

[@plutomarket]

Thanks a lot.

[@thomasfransson]

No problem, thank you for stopping by

[@syedarmaghanhassan4652]

thanks for sharing. no difference in sound. at least not easily distinguishable

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you

[@bhupindersinghosahan1763]

U deserve more

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks

[@GoatlikePersonality]

Hej. Jag filmar ofta utomhus tilsammans med mina getter. Jag vrider och vänder på huvudet och behöver ett headset. Helst med directional mikrofon så att min röst hörs över getterna. Jeg leker med tanken att denna kan monteras i Rødes headset och att själva microfondelen vrids mot mig. Vad tror du? I så fall ville det vara den billigaste headsettet med (de facto) directional mikrofon. Vad tror du? Jag har letat efter informasjon om en budget directional headsett utan att hitta något. Jag tror du ville få många ny abonenter om du gjorde den videon som youtube verkligen behöver. Om du skulle behøva bilder av en førtvivlad norsk getbonte/youtuber som letar efter en bra mikrofon så får du gärna använda någonting från min kanal eller så kan jag filma någonting åt dig. Hoppas du kan svara på min fråga... du har en mycket bra kanal

[@thomasfransson]

Intressant kanal. Jag skulle rekommendera att du investerar i ett trådlöst lavalier system ex. Rode Wireless Go II Du skulle kunna klara dig med den inbyggda mikrofonen på ett sådant system om du inte vill krångla med en lavalier. Med ett trådlöst system hamnar mikrofonen närmre dig. Det gör att den inte tar upp lika mycket av omgivningen Inklusive getterna då du är närmsta ljudkällan. Fördelen med Rode wireless Go II är att man har två sändare. Om man spelar in under en hel dag kan man alltid ha en sändare på laddning/laddad och klar för att byta om batterierna skulle ta slut. Normalt sett kan man räkna med ca 7h om man inte spelar in backup på sändaren. Men ca 4h om man använder inspelningsfunktionen. De har även inbyggd inspelning om det skulle bli något fel med kameraförbindelsen.

[@GoatlikePersonality]

@@thomasfransson Tack för svar. Jag har Røde Wireless Go, men den inbygda microfonen fungerar dåligt. Vi har mycket vind i Norge, men den döda katten trillar altid ned i getskiten. Och ljuden försvinner altid när jag tittar åt höger eller venster. (vi bønder följer altid med i naturen, specielt är vi rädda för örnar) Jag funderar nu på en HS2 Lightweight Headset Microphone Eller om jag skal ta en Lavalier II och montera med headset. Begge kan kopplas til min Wireless Go. Vad tror du om Lavalier II som headset? Om den vill vara riktad mot min munn borde det ju bli mycket tyst på gettena?

[@thomasfransson]

Ofasen, jag har aldrig haft problem med att katten ramlar av iom den nya låsmekanismen på Wireless Go II. Vinden och andra ljud från miljön är alltid ett problem när man tar upp ljud. Det bästa är att undvika utsatta platser. Eller vara beredd på en viss mängd vind, get, trafik eller andra typer av störande eleme t. Att placera en lavalier under ett lager av kläder kan fungera mot vind. Ju närmare munnen mikrofonen kan placeras desto lägre volym kan användas vilket minimerar upptagning av annat. Den nära placeringen gör samtidigt mikrofonen mer känslig för riktning vilket du redan märkt. Ett headset kommer vara väldigt utsatt för vind. Den dead cat som följer med Lavalier II är långt från diskret. I synnerhet om den monteras på ett headset. Jag vet inte riktigt vad jag skulle rekommendera. Men tills vidare, försök hitta lä när du spelar in ljud och använd ngn typ av dead cat om du spelar in utomhus. Testa ett headset om du känner att du behöver den nivån av rörlighet. Tyvärr vågar jag inte rekommendera något headset utan skulle råda dig att ta kontakt med någon återförsäljare som förhoppningsvis kan rekommendera ett headset för utomhusbruk.

[@davidblenkinsopp9597]

Just picked up a rode lav 2, delivered by amazon today, and it sounds terrible compared to the internal stereo mic on my GH5! Really not impressed.

[@thomasfransson]

Haha Wow!

[@davidblenkinsopp9597]

@@thomasfransson i thought this was plug and play. It obviously isn't. Any suggestions so i can use it gratefully appreciated

[@thomasfransson]

I've never needed to do anything fancy with it. Just made sure the mic is facing the right direction and placed on a good position on you or your talent. After that it's just dialing in the levels to make sure it’s not clipping. That and making sure you have the dialog as a mono track on your timeline.

[@davidblenkinsopp9597]

Thanks I realise now it was clipping. Doh! Thank for that So much better now. Thanks for the help

[@thomasfransson]

My pleasure, i hope you'll get much use out of your new microphone

[@АлександровичОлег-ш1е]

Разницы не какой не заметил во время его теста... Только после теста , когда он говорит обработанным голосом, (конечно уже после пост обработки), низких частот больше. Говорят разница действительно есть, но я не услышал.. А слушаю я на акустике трёх полосной , с низкочастотным драйвером 22см, высота корпуса 87см глубина 25см ,ширина 37см, чуствительность 93d. Симфония 002, дополнительно с сабвуфером...И если разница действительно существует, значит автор в тесте что то на выравнивал, (накрутил) на выходе и сам не понял, как уровнял микрофоны!

[@thomasfransson]

If you can't hear the difference you can probably go for the Lav go as it’s the more affordable option of the two.

[@АлександровичОлег-ш1е]

@@thomasfransson Вчера купил уже Rode Lavalier II, жду когда привезут на другой край страны, Привезут послушаю лично.

[@thomasfransson]

​@@АлександровичОлег-ш1еIt's a great lave, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I use the lav II a lot. Sounds good on most voice.

[@DandyDoesIt]

Funny. I have a 20 year old audio Technica lav with a side element design. Rode's acting like this design is something new. No offense to the reviewer

[@thomasfransson]

I agree, it's a quite common design for none consumer level lavaliers. But it's their first and I think for a lot of beginner creators/target market it's a rather new idea ;)

[@ifn_media]

If you are going to review a microphone, you really shouldn't add background music!

[@thomasfransson]

Did you watch the video? Just curious since yes, there is a couple of seconds of music bridging gaps between segments here and there. But it fades out as soon as the dialog picks up again. There's also a dedicated A vs. B section providing samples whitout any post processing or any background music near it. If that wasn't enough to get a perception on the differences between the two I'm sorry for disappointing you and wasting your time. My apologies.

[@BTMovieSecondChannel]

@@thomasfransson And adding music even allows to hear how a specific microphone cuts through the beats. Different frequency responses might cut through specific music better.