ROG FLOW Z13 2023 - Performance Review - It's an Absolute Unit...

I'm taking a look at the newly revised Z13 for 2023; and it is a HUGE performance bump over last year's Z13!
00:00 - 00:50 Introduction
00:50 - 01:56 Unboxing
01:56 - 03:09 Hands On with the Device / Features
03:09 - 05:44 Hinge and Exterior
05:44 - 07:20 Display and Ghosting (Nebula)
07:20 - 11:49 Performance Figures
11:49 - 14:40 Performance Modes and Power Scaling
14:40 - Think about This!
Also I did a fun video with the Z13 on TabletPro's Channel:
• Asus Rog Flow Z13 - SH...

[@TSUNAMI17]

Thank you for showing the difference in refresh rate and ghosting! Very few KZbinrs are showing this!

[@RockyRakoon]

Does it overheat a lot? Especially when these new models dont allow undervolting.

[@cbutters]

Nope the cooling solution is very robust.

[@Terreos]

They really seemed to address the performance issues I think a lot of us had with the device last year. Very glad they gave us 130w vs 100w because I could not run mine at turbo without it discharging the battery. So might finally have that performance tablet I’ve been looking for.

[@jasoncliche7250]

Thanks for taking time to do this review. Can see that you are genuinely excited by this laptop. Now I wish they would hurry up and take my money.

[@aaeriam]

Thanks for taking the time to compile all this information! I really wanted to jump on the Z13 +XG Mobile wagon last year, but the performance wasn't as good as I was hoping. This data gives me hope that I might be able to replace my current 3080Ti laptop docking station with this + the new XG Mobile without sacrificing too much, if any, performance.

[@Vegatablez]

Absolutely can't wait to see the x13 and 16 models!

[@klalwani84]

Great detail, thank you for posting your analysis.

[@lawrenceyeung3381]

Thanks. Your review helps me a lot.

[@user-ep1sw6od3u]

thank you so much for the video this is one of the earliest reviews on this unit probably the only one on the internet rn

[@willl4575]

definitely a good video man, please make some more!

[@Shadowwe1]

Amazing review. I'm personally eyeing the Asus Zenbook 14 pro with a 120hz oled screen and a 4070. It seems like the perfect all around thin and light, but I'm concerned about battery life and curious about the gpu wattage since asus doesn't mention it. What do you think of it and will you test it by chance? Thanks.

[@AndrewD50297045]

Exactly what I was looking for for school. Great review

[@likeasir007]

Amazing review with nice comparisons! :D

[@thadboy1022]

Great review, a few charts would be welcome. Also a noise test at idle would be great because my 2021 x13 just won't shut up

[@foxxionair]

Hey there thanks alot for thos review. How loud would you consider this machine in performance and silent mode? Greetings

[@shirokuro73]

Great video as always! How have you found the battery life when not gaming? I have the 2022 i9/3050Ti model, and the battery life was probably my biggest issue with it. The performance was great for such a small machine, and I could notice the screen ghosting on some games - so knowing those 2 things are incredibly better on the 2023 is making me very very tempted. The ACRNM version looks great too (and you did a great video on that too!) but it's just a bit too crazy blingy for me maybe? If the 4050 has decent battery life, I'd angle towards that. If I can sell my 2022...!!

[@smaronboruah]

Finally a detailed review showcasing the performance! Glad Nvidia's claim about the 40 series being so good at lower wattages is true. Quite stoked for the X13 as well

[@najved]

hey @cbutters Tech , how loud is the rog flow? How long does the battery last on a single charge?

[@JCMaldonado13]

Just got the 2022 version for $1300 at Best Buy, might return it and get the 4060 one instead.

[@blackstoneriverworkshop7167]

I just got the 2023 4050 model and I'm also really happy with it, idk if I'd trade it for the 4060 or not, because the 4060 is gonna munch battery even faster which could cross into annoying

[@Alan-19719]

Do you know where can I get the RTX 4060 model? I'm looking all over the Internet but I can only find the RTX 4050 model.

[@Ilikedahrice]

Same. I cant belive they sold the i9 3050ti version for 1300, ill be keeping mine.

[@jimmyli8129]

Open box is less than $1k now but I m still getting the new 4050 one because of the screen

[@RedheadLG]

Just did the same. Getting mine in a few days and can’t wait

[@emudshit]

Could you compare thickness to last years model, its saying its a fair bit thicker but is that maybe just the kick stand thats thicker or the entire device ect ect, thank you, measurements of it without the keyboard would be much appretiated

[@Warlock15th]

Thank you for the recipes, any info on pricing?

[@mikkelkirketerp4884]

I've got a base spec Surface Pro 8 - I can't imagine how much faster this new Z13 is!! :D I'm gonna swap out the surface for this I think - only consideration for me is how good the pen support is?

[@vikramaddanki8083]

Thank you for prioritizing and showing the product instead of yourself like most of the other video makers do.

[@tsunarun]

Thanks for this comparison. One question : can we by thirdparty charger with 130w

[@gregskuza7166]

Hi, I got my 2023 Z13 a couple of months ago and my question is how to get the best black on the Nebula panel. There are some presets for FPS etc in Armoury Crate but I hope there is some other way to adjust contrast and brightness etc? Any suggestions? Great video!

[@yuhyiyuhhh3746]

Hi, can you compare the flow z13 2022 vs 2023, especially the keyboard problem. I rad many articles that many of the z13 2022 owner is facing faulty keyboard, they cant bend in certain angle,(the cause probably: 1. flex cables snaps easyl 2. Pin base is damage) I wanted to buy this 2023 version but if the keyboard facing the same problem maybe i’ll reconsider, really appreciate if reply, thank you, very usefull video..

[@silverpro8356]

Hey Cbutters what sort of battery times are you getting and lets hope the screen has no PWM (Pulse width modulation).

[@ragaadin9408]

i think it's free from PWM because the screen is use standart IPS panel, not an miniled or oled which usually had that PWM thing.

[@leonardk7455]

great video

[@user-kw2fe4nd3h]

Use 60% more power and get 60% to 80% more performance, quite good. Last year model cpu power limit throttling at 22w, that will be the main problem I want to know if it has been fixed. Or the machine will still be lack of power, it will stutter like glitch when number of npc increase.

[@darkside9544]

Battery life in comparison to last year?

[@mre1909]

Does this years model comes with a better solution with the keyboard problem not working while in typing angle, but when I put down completely it works?

[@valentino.rostami]

I’m interested but the screen size scares me, I need it for coding and machine learning, the config is good but the screen! what’s your recommendation?

[@Goalier95]

Do you find the 16GB of RAM limiting?

[@Artak091]

How’s battery life?

[@madyunique2785]

Flow x 13 2023 is coming 28 th match. Excited for it. I've ordered galaxy book 3 360 though so I'm confused.

[@jdelossantosart2582]

Did the pen performance improve in any way?

[@alcinoos4013]

thanks u so much

[@DragonMasterJon]

What do you do when it comes down to having to repaste this?

[@dalejail]

how does it preform with a non-xg egpu with the thunderbolt?

[@skyzsolstice]

I can't wait for the flow x13

[@ltl9009]

I got last year's i9 version. Even 10 months after I got it, it's still my favorite impulse buy ever. The XG Mobile would be more worthwhile if it was a swappable desktop GPU.

[@biggie_smells1858]

there are versions you could get or make that use a normal desktop gpu.

[@shadowgaminghd1115]

@@biggie_smells1858any links?

[@omarno.9470]

Hello, your review made me buy this product and it is as good as you said! but mine did not come with a pen, is it because of the US market?

[@cbutters]

Yes, US doesn't come with it, grab a surface pen or a cheap one off amazon. It just needs to support MPP (Microsoft Pen Protocol)

[@ew9n]

did it come with a stylus? some videos show it coming with one and some dont. aaa

[@telchor7931]

How does the Pen performance compare to last year and does it come close to the Surface Pro?

[@cbutters]

Unfortunately, the pen feels exactly the same as last years, which is to say its a lot less smooth than Surface Pro. It's passable, and has pressure sensitivity; but if inking / drawing is your primary concern... this might not be your device.

[@NatalieRath]

I have one too! Love it but holy hell the battery life.

[@50bmg10]

is it good or bad?

[@ctsperformance1755]

yeah honestly never thought I would say this, but efficiency wise, NVIDIA NAILED it this year, allowing Ultra Books to get on a level never before. Those things are now viable gaming rigs! like wtf! What a time to be alive :D except for pricing ^^

[@TheDavidson505]

When will these be in stock!? Unavailable everywhere!

[@KTamas27]

So compared to 3050 ti theb4050 is about 110 percent performsnce increase and the 4070 is 190 percent?

[@mohamedimadh9886]

I'm waiting for flow x 16 as a mechanical engineering student.

[@rsinha2700]

Hi, can you please share the link to excel where you have benchmarked data for laptops

[@enriqueac7641]

Just the future in front of our eyes

[@tonybrynolf9980]

I was thinking of getting it and using it with a 4k oled monitor. Will it be able to handle it and can I expect it to handle it for a while into the future?

[@cbutters]

It can handle that resolution just fine for most things, however for gaming... you should plan on dropping the resolution of newer games to 1080p or 1440p or plan on using FSR or DLSS. It should do okay, especially the 4060 and 4070 version. However, if you really want to play at 4k resolution in games, You'd need likely at least a 4080 graphics solution to hit that in the newest titles.

[@malhaar707]

Everything seems good except the RAM factor. Not sure why the 2023 model still has the same 16 GB RAM. My current laptop drains out of memory when I open too many apps and browser tabs, and some App dev-related apps. Can someone confirm that this machine is good and all-rounder i.e. development + gaming and Video editing with tablet form factor?

[@zergslayer69]

Are you able to find out how much vram the 4050 has? I believe last years 3050ti only has 4gb

[@cbutters]

6gb

[@user-kh1ro6wv3t]

When does it come out?

[@minklein]

Ahhh man you convinced me lol 😆

[@-eternal]

Hey man, do you plan on reviewing the 2023 x16?

[@design926]

Please whatbis difference battery drain ? Thanks

[@tinop414]

Any news on x16 2023 international model?

[@tomaszrudyk5718]

what you think... is it better to buy 2022 4k i9 3050ti model with xg mobile 3080 or 2023 model 4050?

[@cbutters]

If money is no object.... the mobile 3080 is going to be faster, but I think the 2023 is still what I would pick, then if you need more performance, save up for an xg mobile later.

[@RyanEllerbe]

I’m torn between this and a surface. I need to be able to store the pen away and the surface provides for that. I really wish they had designed the z13 to have a spot to put the pen.

[@DiogoAmaroONE]

Between this model and a surface pro 9 i7 16 GB RAM which one do you think is better? I currently have a discount and the Asus costs 1600$ and the Surface with keyboard cover costs 1500$ Edit: It's more for work than anything else, but using some programs that are a bit heavy and the graphics would help a lot until

[@Aedxn]

Hi, which device did you choose?

[@DiogoAmaroONE]

@@AedxnAsus i9

[@EJ-oz2nm]

Is this good for daytrading? 🤔 Torn between those 13inch laptops. Which is which 😅

[@cbutters]

screen might be a bit small for something like day-trading, but with an additional monitor; would be just fine.

[@H3LLMAU5]

I really don’t need something like this for the type of work I’m gonna be using it for, and neither I need it for gaming since I already have a 3070 ti Zephyrus and a 3070 gaming PC… but god the asthmatics on that tablet looks so good I feel like just driving to my local Best Buy and get it

[@KTamas27]

Why the x16 only still got 100w pd charging?

[@foxyluxyy]

Will there be a x13 review

[@marcosruiz9016]

Do u suggest 4050 or 4060 ? For future proof and battery life

[@beckinbinderin]

4060. The battery life all depends on the model you buy.

[@Sonic-ez9xz]

How's the battery life?

[@davidlane1248]

No reviewer mentions this. I'm assuming a lot of them are paid to review this thing and aren't allowed to talk about it's objectively bad feature According to Reddit and other online users, you may get up to 4-5 hours under the best circumstances possible... On non-gaming or GPU intensive tasks. If you want to game, you plug it in, seems to be the story

[@maxipaxi6338]

Tried the pen?

[@munneysreviews]

Bro, WHERE DID YOU FIND ONE FOR SALE?!

[@cbutters]

ASUS web store... had a very small quantity drop end of last week.

[@user-vx7jz9iu4v]

Is it cellular?

[@dicksonZero]

please use an external mic for your commentary. it is annoying having your volume fluctuating all the time throughout the video because you keep moving around the camera

[@vonpester]

Release date?

[@under90seconds]

How's the battery life? Last year models had awfull battery life...

[@cbutters]

It's also pretty bad, unless you take drastic measures to control power consumption

[@audioramplify]

I love the tablet but wished the exposed was made of metal. Looks weird when both sides are different in materials.

[@waeelaldoo]

when will the 2023 x13 come out?

[@cbutters]

I'm guessing within the next 1-6 weeks.. but I can't find any real information yet.

[@bobthebuilder101ism]

Where do you purchase the 4050 series over the 3050

[@cbutters]

I got this unit on asus's USA webstore. it comes into stock occassionally, especially around 8am

[@beckinbinderin]

eBay or Amazon. (UK)

[@hodr1000]

I just bought the acrynm version 32gb and 4070. Crazy.

[@zergslayer69]

I thought they’re all 16gb ram?

[@hodr1000]

@@zergslayer69 this one is 32GB according to asus website

[@zergslayer69]

@@hodr1000 oh nice, I guess gotta give you more if dropping 3 grand on it

[@mikaielgnvi5470]

👌👌

[@PadeJuan]

Where’d you buy it??

[@cbutters]

ASUS web store USA, it comes in and out of stock recently pretty often.

[@malsh5608]

More game tests live plz

[@Kobifans]

Dude, Honestly, I have no idea on what you're saying. All I can say is, this might be the first laptop I'll buy in 9 years. I wanna go back to gaming since Counterstrike 2 is released.

[@matthewcherrington2634]

I'm worried about the vram speed

[@asmrnaturecat984]

Please do similar with x13

[@cbutters]

I'm dying to get my hands on the 2023 X13... I'll definitely be doing the X13 :)

[@JohnnyinCLE]

Nice review. That said, I really wanted to like the Flow Z13, of this year's model (as well as last years). My problem? The NvME size is a DEAL BREAKER for me. There are UMPCs (like GPD, AYA, One-Netbook, among others) that enable 2280 in a smaller board, without a hitch. ROG is going to have to figure out that some of us do NOT care about the RGB glass on the back, and care more about storage options, like 2280 NvME (without having to tack on a ROG Arion NvME enclosure). I pay good money for ROG products, but the inky-dinky NvME remains a no-go for me.

[@adolwu7602]

There is also RTX2050 model for 2023 Z13. I might consider buy that one to save some cost and then get a 4090 XG MOBILE cuz I need a powerfull pad for bringing outside for work and have a more powerfull gaming PC at home.

[@soa2444]

Gaming? How old are you?

[@adolwu7602]

@@soa2444 Any problem of seeking a gaming PC here? The brand name ROG stands for what?

[@khalifa6413]

​@@adolwu7602fr 2050? Don't see it tho

[@Frigobar_Ranamelonico]

​@@soa2444bro is so stupid that I doesn't even know what Rog stand for💀

[@ReyRey277]

The Surface Pro in shambles right now. Time for them to wake up

[@ph1ni422]

Oh, I enjoyed this video, I just need to see you PLAY STAR CITIZEN, AND I'm convinced. Plz, thank you. Im subbing!!❤❤😊

[@stefangalben5638]

Compare it to surface pro 9

[@8bitrepeg340]

How much? I can't get a computer that I don't want to increase the price to buy a profiteer

[@pitbull3803]

Dude good video, but clearly you are new to this or you look like it . Next time you could consider making some graphs or smth rather then just showing on the excell. Also please look at the camera it will be more appealing videos. Besides all that great content:)

[@user-kw2fe4nd3h]

I hope there will be a fan noise test

[@cbutters]

If you put it into silent mode and GPU on eco... The fans stay off; 0db. even doing pretty intensive things... Turbo mode when taxing the dGPU can be pretty loud though. Performance mode is a good compromise.

[@user-kw2fe4nd3h]

@@cbutters Thank you. But I really want to know the dB value when loading, so that can compare it to last year model more easily. My z13 is about 40 dB at full load.

[@KTamas27]

Az 12:15 why you didn't get 130w?

[@cbutters]

13:28

[@KTamas27]

@@cbutters i still don't get it. You said u charge up to 100 percent to get full performance. You cant go over 110 even if the batter is 100 percent?

[@cbutters]

@Kotakomba nope. 110w... the 20w overhead is for if you need the battery to be charging. So if running at full speed and charging battery, then yes.. you'd pull 130w from the charger. Since battery was full the cpu+gpu+display don't pull more than 110w.

[@KTamas27]

@@cbutters isn't there a way in the bios to get out 130w at 100 percent battery or a bit colder 120 125?

[@cbutters]

@Kotakomba nope. The gpu pulling 65 max + 35w on cpu + overhead brings you to 100w, then 10 more for system and screen. It's already very fast at these levels.

[@woowoo3133]

Waiting for X13 anyway..

[@beckinbinderin]

I really want this machine... but that PRICE! :/

[@CptAloevera]

The new one also has face id

[@daniloeburneo1259]

Wainting for x13...

[@agostinoabbatecola4289]

If they make a 14-inch OLED version (the current panel sucks, I've seen it live, it's pitiful, let's face it). With a bigger battery (since then the space is there), 56Wh not even 2 hours do you do with Google Chrome/Opera/Edge.... eating up all the resources with its awesome CEF or whatever, like GPU with DLSS/RTX eating watts like they are chips. Then damn these mini trackpads, it's so much space, why make a square. This tablet/laptop has always been a dream, however on 2000-3000 I expect quality. Another thing on a gaming PC 1TB is nothing, why put a chipset that supports max 1TB, so you can't expand...bhoo. Before they put a solution, they reflect or not.... If they play the saving game on 3000 euros people think 1000 times....

[@CptAloevera]

Buy this one or new x13

[@cbutters]

I'll most likely get the 2023 x13... but the z13 is still great if you like the form factor.

[@cultserpent4501]

Im an audio engineer, im interested in the noise levels of this. In general audio wont stress the gpu and the cpu so much like in gaming. So, i'd much appreciate if you give info about the noise levels in idle, medium and high performance of this machine, because if that thing is quiet ima consider buying it! Thanks in advance

[@blackstoneriverworkshop7167]

I have a fan running in my studio most of the time, I never hear the tablet at all. Haven't tried it in silent conditions yet, but its not gonna make half a sound if you're already wearing studio headphones