23ZERO ROOFTOP TENT REVIEW

[@peterwest267]

Your detail is just honest and has sold me

[@Campingdownunder]

I always try to be as honest as possible in each video 👍

[@Portyhouse]

I know you've moved on from this tent, I bought one based on your video. Right price point for me and awesome quality. I'll just say one thing for anyone who finds your video. When you're packing it up you mention an issue of it getting stuck...this to me is a positive as it allows me to tuck in all the side material prior to getting the front pole down...Makes it SO much easier to get the cover on and not have to shift material around as you're doing the zip up.

[@diggeroldmate8122]

Love that you tested it in the wind. That's my biggest concern with annexes.

[@Campingdownunder]

None of the annexes really like the wind. Especially if it's raining. But saying that they are strong enough to last in wind 👍

[@diggeroldmate8122]

@@Campingdownunder copy that. Yeah I think I'd only get one for the missus - I'd be fine without the annex. Gotta keep the girls happy if they're gonna get out there lols.

[@Campingdownunder]

That's the only reason I Carry a toilet with me 🤣

[@diggeroldmate8122]

@@Campingdownunder hahahahaha😆

[@boarderz8275]

​@@diggeroldmate8122amen mate I'd sleep on the floor if it wasnt for the missus but gotta get a full glamping set up to get them out there hahaha

[@joshuadickinson]

This is a very good review, thorough and concise. I didn't catch what the model of this tent was though...

[@Campingdownunder]

I believe it was the Dakota 1400

[@turorit]

Hi mate, very well presented and thorough review. I purchased a second hand Gordigear RTT earlier in the year, but the 23zero and the Darche were on our short-list. I've since sold it but next time will definitely pay the extra for the 23zero, just for the nicer ladder and that collapsible front pole. Having said that, a hard-shell is next on my list

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate 👍 yeah hard shell would be amazing 😀

[@maelisepelini8180]

So glad I seen you review before purchasing a kings rooftop tent, cheers mate awesome review

[@Campingdownunder]

Someone did comment on my king's rooftop tent review the other day they had fixed a lot of the issues people had been having with an updated version but in my opinion if you can afford the extra $500 then this is far better value 👍

[@mavrick5006]

Awesome honest review mate. Done in the heat n wind too cheers

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate 👍 I was so glad to finish it & get out of the heat lol. Got a dust storm now so I finished just in time 😀

[@sudipshardul]

Thanks, I was about to go for adv kings .

[@brentwall9786]

Mate, new subscriber. I previously owned a kulkyne RTT for 15 years similar. Now I was one of the first to purchase the Drifta Wild Land RTT. Much lighter, 30 seconds to set up, and have a can in under 1 min.

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate 👍 that wildlands rtt looks amazing 😍 I definitely would have gone something like that except it wouldn't have fitted on my canopy with my current setup and out of my budget lol. So I've had to settle for the old style that takes longer to setup. But overall I still love it 😀

[@peterschurr8087]

Champ. Saved me from buying the Adventure Kings. For the better base/floor, better ladder, the sky-window and slightly better height profile when packed, I think the 23Zero is worth the extra money.

[@Jim-tq4gf]

Awesome update , probably saved me money already. Up front and honest love it.

[@footprintsandtyretracks]

I was going to get a kings rtt. I didn’t because I personally know people who had the kings for a couple of years using it intermittently and they were falling apart and said they wouldn’t buy another & convinced me not to get one. My partner I was with for 10+ years had a Darche panorama 2 which was awesome and was used quite a bit with no issues - I couldnt afford that much being an extra $800+ to the 23Zero. The 23zero offered the quality of the Darche at a way less price and yes I had to save up a bit longer to get the 23Zero compared to the kings. I was in talks with 23Zero for a while before I got the tent as I was unsure if I wanted a rtt or another swag (was using a kings swag for 4yrs before I got the rtt which has been awesome for the price there is still no issues with it however I wanted more ‘living’ space and was sick of mesh hitting me in the face when I slept from the saggy sides). 23Zero answered every question I had thoroughly and never made me feel like I was being pain with all my questions. In the end I ended up ordering the 23Zero Dakota and 2x Bandit 1100 swags for the kids as early Xmas presents & they threw in the boot holders for the rtt. I waited 4 months for the rtt because of supply issues with covid but it was worth the wait. My partner and I have been sleeping in the 23Zero RTT almost every night since September 2020, in my parents back yard as rental houses are so hard to get atm with a 3% vacancy rate where I live - it’s gets setup every afternoon and packed up every single morning before I head off to take the kids to school. So far no issues except the Velcro that holds the sides down when packed up is starting to go fuzzy so is losing its stickiness - probably due to my user error as I got lazy and wasn’t using the d buckles correctly to hold the tent together and would just pass it through around and down instead of threading properly through the d buckles for tension and issue 2 has been the LST has slightly peeled off the canvas where the awning pole folds up in the tent and the black clips have rubbed against it. Living in NQ we have had some torrential downpours and no leaks. Extremely happy with the tent, the price and the customer service from 23Zero. I am with Paul and say the extra $500 is worth it compared to the kings.

[@Campingdownunder]

Glad to hear you have had such a great experience with 23zero 😀👍 I'm not sponsored by them just really love their products & want to share my opinion with everyone 👌

[@jayamos456]

Good tent besides if it rains for any period, the Darche would probably stay dry…love what you said at 15:05

[@Campingdownunder]

I slept in it every weekend and I never had any water come in mine 👍

[@Campingdownunder]

& also every soft top rooftop tent suffers from condensation unfortunately. Nothing to do with brand

[@jayamos456]

@@Campingdownunder no, I didn’t have any condensation issues in my 23zero Byron.

[@SkozzaAU]

i did the roof top tent thing for abit, and while it was comfortable to sleep in and nice to be up off the ground i quickly got sick of setting up and packing up each day. think ima just kings swag it and see how that goes. i cant roof top tent in current 4b just purchased anyways coz the solar panels are under roof rack.

[@Mastora9]

thanks bud also ordered one over the adv kings

[@Campingdownunder]

You'll love it 👍 love the logo by the way. That's my morning coffee every morning 🤣

[@sandyschiff4017]

Great video.. thx for all the details.. can you explain your custom guy lines..? They look so much better than any stock ones.. much appreciated..!!

[@Campingdownunder]

They are from ezyanchor. Great bit of kit 👍

[@sandyschiff4017]

@@Campingdownunder awesome.. thx for the quick reply.. and thx again for all the great info in the vid.

[@sandyschiff4017]

@@Campingdownunder does this also include the more sturdy rope, with the spring..?

[@Campingdownunder]

The ezyanchor does come with the spring & the rope is reflective for night use making sure you don't trip over them

[@markspalding6092]

Great video mate! You’re doing a great job

[@Campingdownunder]

Thank you 😀👍

[@paullobwein1632]

So glad I have come across your channel I am looking for a roof top tent and had originally thought of a kings.. so glad we have KZbin!! I do have a question though can I mount this on my roof racks over the canopy? I see a lot mounted on the back over the tray canopy.

[@Campingdownunder]

Roof racks on your car? Check the load capacity of your particular vehicle with your dealer to make sure your roof racks can handle the weight aswell as the website of the brand roof racks you have to check out their load limits. But it is possible. It makes sense to put the weight in the middle of the car to even out the weight evenly over the vehicle increasing your cars handling. Just run those checks first 👍

[@paullobwein1632]

@@Campingdownunder yes looking to mount the roof top tent on my cars racks. I have an LDV T60 dual cab so yeh next step is a canopy for it so I can then get to find easier spots to set up then launch the boat the next day.

[@healthierlife50]

It will good to see the review in a year and see if it lives up to your expectations

[@Campingdownunder]

I'll definitely do a long term review 👍 hoping it lasts a lot longer than the adventure kings rooftop tent

[@tengallonz]

Great review, thanks for that. How hard is it to pack up? Do you have to get up on the roof at all? Does the bag cover it easily?

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate 👍 it's quite easy to pack up. No the straps are good quality so you can pull them tight without having to sit on it like I had to do with my previous rooftop tent. The bag also covers it very easily. I never have to get up on the roof to pack it up 👍

[@slowshop]

We're buying our first roof top tent tomorrow actually. That is looks very much like this one you have but it has a different name. Looking forward to many good adventures. Great review mate.

[@Campingdownunder]

Thank you I hope you enjoy your rooftop tent 😀👍

[@billyhammertime]

That Dark layer inside is a game changer.

[@Campingdownunder]

Definitely 👍 such a huge change from our previous rooftop tent. We still love it 😀

[@scottbrown946]

Great review. I've had my 23zero 6 years, still going strong. Could you do a video on how to manage camping when it's windy? Tips and tricks please. My tent is loud and flaps, making it hard to sleep. Cheers

[@Campingdownunder]

Unfortunately when it's windy there's not a lot you can do at night to get more sleep. But I prepare by packing anything away that will keep me up all night wondering if it will survive the wind. I fold up my awning, pack anything loose away and close all the windows on the rooftop tent. I also use ezyanchors to hold everything down so I don't need to worry about pegs lifting & not holding during the night. You still hear the wind flapping the rooftop tent but at least you have peace of mind which makes it easier to zone out & forget the noises

[@tom_nqld]

Pack the ear plugs and you're set

[@scottbrown946]

On our last windy trip, I removed the rain fly. Made a huge difference, even if I did it at midnight.. Lol

[@tombreen5685]

Hey dude, any chance we could get a long term update on how this is holding up?

[@Campingdownunder]

Sure I can do it in the next couple weeks 👍

[@siegfriedwagner186]

The canvas seems a little bit flappy in the Wind..doesn't it make a lot of noice?

[@Campingdownunder]

Yes unfortunately all soft top rooftop tent's flap in the wind. But at this price point there are limitations. My new camp king industries rooftop tent makes absolutely no noise at all but it cost $9,000. So depends on your budget as to what features you'll get out of a rooftop tent

[@siegfriedwagner186]

@@Campingdownunder yes..but this is a hardshell..I had a softshell, lots of issues with the condensation in the morning to continue travelling, now I have a hardshell, but it is heavier and occupies all the space on the roof..but one death you have to die... ;-)

[@Campingdownunder]

This 23zero is still a soft top rooftop tent. The main advantage to this rooftop tent is the layer of lst on the inside making it slightly cooler inside and pitch black. Every soft top on the market flaps in the wind unfortunately. But yes although only camp king truly stops all flapping it is quite large on the roof. But in saying that I can fit 100% of my bedding inside at all times. It's the only rooftop tent that I'm aware of that uses solid poles to tension the awning rather than just the typical spring poles everyone else uses which still causes flapping

[@siegfriedwagner186]

@@Campingdownunderyes it is a great tent.. unfortunately I think it is not available in Europe...

[@Campingdownunder]

Unfortunately I believe it's only available in Australia and America at the moment

[@Alifelessordinary1975]

Great video - i've bought one based on this (2nd hand - not rich enough for a new one). When i get in and out my head hits the top of the tent. Have you found a way to slightly lift this so it doesn't happen.

[@Campingdownunder]

No sorry there's no way of raising the roof that I'm aware of. I never had any issues getting in or out

[@Alifelessordinary1975]

@@Campingdownunder It's not an issue to get in and out, it's just a bit annoying when my head drags on it.. I might need to see if i can rig something up. Hope you're well dude. Love your honest content.

[@Hayls78]

How has the floor/base compared. In the kings broken video you went over that but haven’t covered the difference with this one. Cheers mate

[@Campingdownunder]

It's 100% better I can't complain about anything at all so far with this new rooftop tent 👍

[@tristans5042]

Awesome review...seems much better than the AK tent even for a first roof top tent. How much can you keep inside once its folded up? Like can you fit a blanket inside and a pillow or just the blanket ect??

[@Campingdownunder]

People have managed to fit a blanket and pillows but we just keep one really thick sleeping bag in it

[@jixal]

Thanks for the review. After checking almost every RTT out there this one seems like the best value for money and the LST tech is epic. I like how well the tent is made but isn't $5k. How do you find the width? is 1.4m wide enough for two people or do you find that it's just a bit too tight?

[@Campingdownunder]

Nah 1.4m if fine. We each have plenty of room. But if you've got a wagon & more of a budget then nothing wrong with going bigger 👍 I would have if I could fit

[@michaelnugara1]

Hi Thanks for the informative vid. How long does it take to pack up. Is it easy to use on a daily basis when touring? I also noticed how noisy it is in the wind, can you reduce that noise with further adjustment of the fly and window awnings? Cheers Mick

[@Campingdownunder]

It takes about 5 minutes to pack up and setup. It does get annoying settings it up each day when travelling but unless you want to spend around $4,000 minimum on a hard lid rooftop tent every rooftop tent with a soft top takes the same amount of time to pack up. Not much you can do about the wind. We use the included window tie down points when it gets too windy but your in a tent so your always going to hear a bit of flapping around unfortunately. Every brand will have this same issue

[@michaelnugara1]

@@Campingdownunder thanks for the feedback mate. Much appreciated 👍

[@NathanHegwer-px3us]

What’s your input on unpacking and packing up the tent in the rain?

[@Campingdownunder]

I've never had to pack up in the rain so far. I always hang around camp until the rooftop tent is dry enough to pack up

[@mitchellcream1339]

G'day mate, not sure if you've had much time to go camping but how's the Dakota tent going for you? Tossing up between this, and a darche intrepidor just not sure on what to go for

[@Campingdownunder]

We've used it quite a few times already and I can't fault it. It's brilliant. I love finally being able to sleep in past 6am lol

[@philsrandomstuff2392]

The old saying a poor man pays twice comes to mind . Sometimes you’re better off not buying something until you can actually afford what you really want hay , I’ve done what you done many times before, thinking I’m gonna save big on buying something that looks good but it’s disappointing and crap

[@georgesdesk]

Good review, enjoyed watching, what’s the tent weight approximately

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate it's 57.6kg's 👍

[@jasonglascott9549]

Great review mate 👍 Looking at grabbing 1, after looking at many. Q: you mentioned seasoning, what method do you use ? Cheers

[@Campingdownunder]

Exactly the same as a swag. Absolutely drench it so all the seams expand & seal it from water. But I've never had an issue so far & I never seasoned mine

[@MynameisGeoff82]

still running this RTT Paul? any long term review to come? cheers

[@Campingdownunder]

Hey mate I did actually do another video on the rooftop tent. I found it great. I have sold it now but only because I'm upgrading to a camp King industries hardshell rooftop tent

[@MynameisGeoff82]

@@Campingdownunder oh look at you working your way up the RTT pole 😂 best I go watch this other video then 🍻

[@lachlankren4231]

hey mate, great vid. I'm doing a small trip up to Moreton early next year (from nsw). Have been eyeing the kings one but reviews are mixed and was just wondering, that in ur opinion paying the extra $800 is worth it? personally l wouldn't be using the tent too much and it would just be brought out maybe a few times a year for a few days/week trip cheers :)

[@Campingdownunder]

Honestly mate if your not going to use it that much you won't get any value paying more money. The 23zero is far superior but quality isn't really a factor if you don't use it much. You'll still have warranty with the king's if something goes wrong

[@lachlankren4231]

@@Campingdownunder was thinking this might be the better way to do it but just through to see what you thought, cheers

[@anguscarter6274]

hey man, how do i season a roof top tent? love the vids

[@Campingdownunder]

Take the mattress out just in case, close all the windows and hose every bit of canvas and all the seams. Try not to get any water inside on the floor if you can help it. Allow it to dry and repeat. Although with the tropical layer on top of the rooftop tent's I've owned I've never actually had any water come in. It does a great job 👍

[@anguscarter6274]

@@Campingdownunder thanks man keep up the vids

[@justintrute5563]

Great review of the 23 zero I'm glad I found it. I'm just checking and this might be a silly question but the fittings for the Dakota 1400 annex look very similar to the kings 4-man annex. Does your kings 4-man annex attach to your Dakota 1400? I will probably buy the Dakota 1400 rooftop tent but was going to hold off for a bit off the annex to save some money if my kings one will fit it.

[@Campingdownunder]

Thank you 👍 I actually haven't tried that but it might be possible. That's if the zips match up

[@footprintsandtyretracks]

I’ve been wondering the same thing

[@kierensmith5853]

@@Campingdownunder did you try this mate?

[@Campingdownunder]

No I didn't sorry

[@DYLLS77]

Hey mate, love the video! I was just wondering about the condensation vents by the roof, I was wondering if you can close them off or if they let too much heat out. i camp in freezing temperatures all winter and have been screwed over with vents that don't close before.

[@Campingdownunder]

No these don't close sorry. They are designed to try and reduce the condensation in cold weather but they are tiny so not an issue

[@rhinusbreedt9772]

At the moment the adv kings is half the price of the 23zero. Is it realy worth double the price?

[@Campingdownunder]

This video was made quite a few years ago. I did much prefer the 23zero but it comes down to your budget. The cheaper one still comes with a warranty so it's a personal choice

[@bodgieprice6180]

just a quick question mate how does it go not being supported on the side does it flex i am 6.3 and 120 kgs

[@Campingdownunder]

The ladder supports all the weight. I had myself & my partner up in it and it held us fine

[@Moisty2010]

Been doing a lot of research and have been wanting to know exactly this; is it worth the additional 500 clams to go with the 23Zero Dakota 1400 (or Darche Intrepidor 1400) over the Adventure Kings RTT? Terrific video. Cheers.

[@Campingdownunder]

After using it for quite a few months now I'm still absolutely loving it. Without even mentioning the difference in quality I believe it's worth the extra money for the lst black internal layer alone. I believe this is the best rooftop tent in this price range 👍

[@nivek944]

Question: I would like to attach a Kings 6 man annex to a 1400 23 zero . Do you think this is compatible? Do the zips match by any stretch of the imagination?

[@Campingdownunder]

A lot of people have asked this question. Sorry I'm not sure. I've owned both products but not at the same time so I'm not sure if they are compatible

[@greatsouthlandmike7260]

Well done. Good review. I'm interested after that explanation. 👍🤠

[@Campingdownunder]

I've upgraded since then to a hardshell but I still rate the 23zero 👍

[@greatsouthlandmike7260]

Yeah I wondered if they might be better. I have a trailer I want to mount it onto. Thanks. I'll keep all this in mind

[@Australian_Outdoor_man]

Mate, I love how dark it is in there. Heaps better than the Kings RTT.🍺🇦🇺🍺🇦🇺🍺

[@Campingdownunder]

I really wish I'd heard of this rooftop tent before buying the kings rooftop tent. I genuinely love it 😍

[@nickstormonth3237]

What is the size of this RTT? I’m looking at getting one soon! Any tips on maintenance of it and things to look out for when setting up? Awesome vid mate! Look forward to seeing more of your content 👍

[@Campingdownunder]

23zero.com.au/product/dakota-1400-roof-top-tent/ not much to do with maintaining it at all. Just make sure it's always completely dry before you pack it up or air it out as soon as you get home to stop mould. But any more questions just ask 👍

[@nickstormonth3237]

Sooo.. I bit the bullet and bought one! I was absolutely sold with your review aha scored it for $1399. But hopefully it’s a better investment than spending $900 on the Kings crap 💩

[@Campingdownunder]

Well done mate you'll absolutely love it 😀

[@nickstormonth3237]

Could you send me a link to the hex pegs you use as well as supapegs and rope. Thanks 😊

[@Campingdownunder]

I use ezyanchor products and the review & link are on another one of my videos. The link will give you a discount as well as help support my channel 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2exhoSGhJ2teck

[@KOTW.Adventures]

What a great review! I know what I’ll be buying in the future.

[@jackdoherty7507]

Hey bud, is that the Dakota 1400?

[@Campingdownunder]

Yes it is 👍 sorry I forgot to mention that

[@madgibbo44]

12 months later... do you still like it or not? Cheers bro!

[@Campingdownunder]

I actually upgraded to a hardshell rooftop tent a few months ago but I still rate the 23zero as the best soft top rooftop tent

[@madgibbo44]

@@Campingdownunder how does it compare to your hard top as we are in the market. Cheers Mad Aussie Adventures

[@Campingdownunder]

If you can afford & fit a hardshell rooftop tent on your roof then that's definitely the best way to go. You can fit all your bedding in it and setting it up takes less than a minute. I've got the camp king industries rooftop tent which is top of the range. Very expensive but worth the investment if you go camping regularly

[@coqulation]

is this the 1.4 or 1.6m?

[@Campingdownunder]

1.4

[@migomoTV]

Do you have you old kings rooftop tent?

[@Campingdownunder]

No sorry I got rid of that years ago

[@migomoTV]

Thanks , You have a nice tent.

[@Campingdownunder]

I've actually upgraded again since this video to a camp King industries rooftop tent 👍

[@chrisgraham1179]

Great video mate thanks

[@Campingdownunder]

Thanks mate 👍

[@rudvs]

Mate of mine had one from 23 zero and had nothing but problems with it ! He turned to darche rtt for better quality and customer service

[@mattdavies3023]

If the tent is waterproof why bother putting on the rain cover which just makes it so much noisier etc

[@Campingdownunder]

It's not a rain cover 🤣 it's a tropical layer designed to give an extra thermal layer absorbing some of the heat before it hits the rooftop tent actually cooling the tent slightly. The tropical layer shouldn't be noisy if you've got the poles inserted correctly and if it is very windy you are supposed to close them

[@AdOYOO]

You should have named the video 23zero vs adventure kings.

[@Campingdownunder]

I'm not going to compare it to any other brands as they are the only brands I've owned so far. No point making claims about products I've never even owned

[@jayamos456]

You are wrong, it will not handle the rain.

[@shane5156]

Paul first up if you are going to do a review video then review the product. DO NOT do a comparison video. All you did was try to rubbish the kings RTT to try make the 23zero look better for the price. Remember for some people the $500 difference is a lot of fuel and food to go have a good time. Anyone who is getting out there for the first time and with limited finance that want's to get a RTT, kings is a great option, we just spent the weekend out in the VIC high country in ours no problems at all. Remember you are trying to be an influencer so save the BS. I look forward to your long term review

[@Campingdownunder]

Check out my first review of the adventure kings rooftop tent and also my long term review where I listed all the issues I had with it. Then also read through all the comments and see how many people have had the same issues with that product. There's nothing wrong with starting with something cheap. I actually tell people to do that in most of my videos. But I was trying to make people aware of the differences between the only 2 rooftop tents I have been using. Then people can make up their mind on what features they want out of a product and also what ever their budget allows

[@shane5156]

@@Campingdownunder I'm not getting into this again with you, go back and look at the comments on your other video. Nothing is built to last anymore, so work out how much fun you had with a product then let everyone know if its value for money. Kings RTT used every weekend for 2 years is good value. if you only used if for 100 weekends and you paid $700 say that's again $70 accommodation costs per weekend. Where would you be able to go and stay for that price. !!!! No one picked up my mistake in maths. Its actually $7 per weekend for accommodation, how could you complain about that

[@jixal]

@@shane5156 Some people don't like shit products mate. And Kings are the Kings of lowgrade products. Yeah they're cheap. But they won't last. The world doesn't need more crap in it. Of course he rubbish's the Kings stuff because it is bottom of the barrel and a good thing to compare to.... because they are so cheap they are tempting to buy. On the flip side, I think it's great that there are cheap products for camping that people can use.... but I prefer my stuff to last 6-10 years, not 2, because you'll just want to buy it again when it's wrecked and then you've spent more money.

[@Campingdownunder]

I have heard that 4wdsupercentre have recently updated the rooftop tent addressing most of the issues people have had. Took them long enough but at least they have made the effort. I'm in talks with them at the moment to find out what they have changed and I'll do an updated video. Kings rooftop tent might be worth getting again for that price range 👍

[@bmulipola]

Nothing wrong with this video. It helps us as consumers make a good decision. I've got a Kings RTT and second hand at that. Came with the canopy i bought and i can't complain. Has all the problems and blessings too. This video is for people wanting to move on from a previous product that they've had fun/trouble with. I like that you compared and gave us something to think about before spending the hard earned cash. If you like kings and have a great product then sweet. If you're looking to upgrade than this is why we watch these vids. For people taking time out of their lives so that we can share their experience without feeling the pinch in the back pocket.