Rogue Best in Slot Gearing Guide - Phase 2 Season of Discovery

[@SimonizeShow]

PvE Guide for Talents, Rotation, Consumables: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp7GiaSNrs2fbpI

[@WolfiPlays]

How does the slow speed of the bloodharvest blade as an offhand option affect our poisons? wouldnt it be better to play coldrage dagger instead for our envenom?

[@mjd3879]

Its getting real when Simon is wearing a normal hat!

[@bigshirley8658]

That’s no normal hat. I’ve only seen train ticket collectors from 1801 and George RR Martin wearing that

[@Wandeezimo]

This is that peaky blinders drip. Definitely don’t see anyone wear that

[@KpxRagDoll]

finallly been waiting for this

[@Rave.-]

Salmonize back at it again

[@csdangerfield]

Thanks for these guides! best one out there for SoD Rogues

[@aeo-gard]

Hell yeah just the content i needed as i get ready to hit 40

[@burnafew]

Great videos as always, look forward to future content!

[@morgunsfreeman]

Great video man, really appreciate your work for us rogues.

[@Lepatats]

Great video as always

[@WingTzu343]

Wew, got here quick!

[@aaroncopple6198]

Love your video's and have been following you sinse classic landed. With P2 in SoD i've been have a really hard time getting into groups as a dps rogue (even tho I top the dps charts 95% of the time) with the changes coming up with tanking id really love to see more on this if its a thing you have time to put into this topic!

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

Since*

[@DoinkFPS]

Thank you for quality videos :)

[@SlaithFTW]

Thank you, Simon !

[@TheNicopy]

Excellent guide ...and hat!

[@ronnyemterborn8536]

Bro, you just deserve my follow. good videos and very easy to understand! amazing work ddude, thanks 😊

[@messaroundhandleit]

One note to add for the forest bracers you can do ash pvp event for the turn in drop off the bosses/adds, you can do it once a week and get1k rep, and you it'll take you 21 weeks, or you can suffer through wsg lol.

[@dustytreasure8002]

Great insight on the OH dagger. Wasn’t sure if I needed to go for the oh blood dagger. Also bracers from high inquisitor in cathedral good option as well

[@86Kacey]

great video as always to the point, thanks

[@MystLs]

i didnt know this until i got it but the domesticated attack chicken gives you a 5% attack speed buff for 10min when you use it

[@metamorfik]

Can you unequip it and maintain the buff?

[@MystLs]

@@metamorfik That's a great question but the buff is kind of rare it doesn't always happen which is a bummer. Next time I get it I'll have to vanish and switch trinkets to check.

[@michaelac7320]

Nice guide nice hat. Love you Simonizer

[@axylotl8168]

I love your hats ^^

[@DoCKathos]

Fuck, finally, a decent gearing video. Right to the point with bis and alternatives for lazy/broke bitches like myself.

[@MrDehBoss]

I’m taking it easy just hit 35. Nice I can work towards these

[@Kab00m420]

My raid team blew up today (not because of gnomer) but I'm all pre-bis! If anybody needs a solid rogue on Lonewolf US let me know! Informative as always Simon

[@H1LTO]

Thanks Simon

[@SubutaiProduction]

Kind of annoying that our BIS is a BoE world epic and they didn't even give a us a blue dagger in Gnomeregan

[@Witelol]

If u push the experiment further with the trinket you start spinning same as with herod axe :D pretty cool, happened to me once from like 8 tries so far :)

[@fizzer3550]

Hi Simonize. Found your channel thanks to Zockify, who have oddly quoted that the BFD Ritual Dagger is one of the BiS offhands according to yourself, which is missing from this video. Please see link below to the page - are they correct or is this a mistake? Thanks

[@driponme3484]

Such a nice video, thank you very much!!!

[@marcusbengtsson501]

Heyy! Thanks for the guide, just one question though. I have Toxic Revenger in main hand and its 1.8 speed, is blood harvester really a good off hand when it has 1.9 speed? :o

[@asclepeus-games]

Appreciate your videos. I'd love to see some rogue tank info from you too

[@TomGotGanked]

THE GOAT

[@vasseell]

Simon, what about Gloves of Holy Might and Wolfclaw Gloves?

[@mourik-janschoemaker8076]

Thankz for ALL your guids! 👍 Just a quick question: does my +3 weapon dammage enchant on both my daggers stack up with the +3 weapon dammage from the Glowing Gneuro- Linked Cowl ? I don't see it in my character sheet (only +3 in green once, not +6 or +3 +3). Or should I take a differnt enchant on my weapons?

[@zerogravity9746]

Awesome guide. One thing I've been going trough in my mind is: How does full 3/3 BFD leather set compare to prebis list?

[@epidermiuss]

i really like your videos!

[@tavakoliinternationalllc1755]

Hi, I have a question on the cloaks, isn’t a + 10 agility cloak better than the hawk’s eye cloak?

[@ogremair803]

It would’ve been nice if Rogues get invited for Gnomer 😌

[@RideRM1313]

Im noticing that I lose AP and crit when i use the artemis cowl and excelsior boots over the bfd 2 set so this might be worth noting

[@MrJontheStallion]

do you think you could do a vid covering AP vs agility/str? from what i understand, agility scales to AP1/1, plus a little crit. wouldnt a large amount of AP be better than a small amount of agility? like nigthscape tunic has 15 agi, but the current chest piece i have has 38 AP, wouldnt 38 AP be better than 15 ap plus alittle crit?

[@Demic25]

Does this take take in account the BFD set items/bonus

[@CheezitNinja]

I heard some rumbling about the attack chicken providing a stacking 5% haste buff similar to some shenanigans from TBC and the gnomish battle chicken. Is there any merit in that?

[@Dewwwwvwvwvw]

yes,it does procc this,but its VERY low chance to procc. even when the chicken enrages,it is not guranteed. so far i have had it procc 1 out of 4 times,and when it procced it was after half of its duration.

[@bobbobson3045]

Thank you for the guide, very useful! Question about weapons: you write that weapon speed is not particularly important for offhand, and that a fast offhand is preferable but not a big deal - the most important is dps and stats. Then howcome a Sacrificial Kris with 8 agi and 25 dps is better than the Bloodharvest Blade with 9 agi and 31 dps? The only upside to the Kris as far as I can tell is the faster speed, but I thought something marginal like that would be outweighed by the other things?

[@SimonizeShow]

well you thought wrong i dont know what to tell you, you explained it in your own post. you thought speed would be outweighed by 6 offhand dps? well its not

[@bobbobson3045]

Thanks for clarifying. Seems like you do know what to tell me. The reason I thought so was your guide on wowhead, which reads that OH dagger can be fast or slow, and while fast is preferred, the more important quality is that it has good secondary stats. And that the Sacrificial Kris daggers are better primarily due to their superior secondary stats compared to the other options@@SimonizeShow

[@KrheaKap]

Why aren't you considering the Bracer with 5stam +14 ap from SM Cathedral over the crafted bracers?

[@SimonizeShow]

this isnt a "here is every item you can equip" list, its a BIS list with some alternatives.

[@Nyt250]

Simonize, do we want a slow or fast oh with mutilate?

[@koalakakes]

how far behind is striking from dismantle?

[@aqua123456q]

Are the dusky bracers better than the Branded Leather Bracers with +14 AP?

[@Ciftyfent]

I guess yes, because the dusky bracers got 8 Agi so you get 16AP?

[@SimonizeShow]

about the same

[@dakkoreaan]

@@Ciftyfent 8 agi = 8 ap/16 ranged ap Just gotta take the 0.5% crit into account

[@SkaldCG]

What about the 1% Crit Cloak form STV Event? it is BIS for me... ALso got more Armor which indicated a higher level. Or is the Agu/Str/AP so much more efficient with Poisons?

[@SimonizeShow]

this is not a "everything you can equip" list, it is a BIS list with a few alternatives

[@SimonizeShow]

that cloak is worse than the listed options

[@SkaldCG]

@@SimonizeShow I see, now using +10 AP, 8 Stamina cloak I got from a quest.

[@tavakoliinternationalllc1755]

@@SkaldCGwhat is the name of that cloak? Or the name of the quest?

[@SkaldCG]

@@tavakoliinternationalllc1755 Battlehard Cape :)

[@guillaumeloriault4074]

Would you use the blood spattered stiletto on trash on cd to help aoe pulls or its just not worth switching to here and there?

[@tjm7768]

Very good video. I'm just surprised and also curious as to why the 'Gloves of Holy Might' aren't on the top 4 gloves list? 1% crit and 20 AP seem like a big deal.

[@SimonizeShow]

seems like a big deal to you, does not seem like a big deal to DPS estimation spreadsheet. slightly better than void touched gloves WITHOUT activation, only 4 slots, needed to include something easy to get and not another BOE epic for people to complain about the gold cost

[@imakeitrein8301]

Is the blood drenched cloak from STV event no good?

[@Lobsterr0]

Isn't the leather wrist Ornate Dark Iron Bangles (+9 spd +1% hit) actual bis??

[@SimonizeShow]

no??

[@adamgrabowski938]

For Bracers I feel like Branded Leather Bracers that give 14 AP are better than Dusky bracers. they drop from Fairbanks in SM

[@AzureYume]

Hey Simon, love your videos. Do you maybe have an infographic or something along those lines with all the info in this video at a glance? Would be nice that way you don't need to click through the different time stamps looking for specific info. Keep up the great work!

[@philmarshall6231]

Just go on wow head it’s the exact same gear he took it from there lol

[@Steve8864]

he wrote the wow head guide @@philmarshall6231

[@BarineterIII]

Nice video as always! I'm surprised Swiftwind wasn't mentioned in the ranged weapon slots. +7 agi crossbow BOE that goes for ~10g on my server.

[@SimonizeShow]

this isn't a "every item you can possibly equip" list, its a BIS list and just a few alternatives

[@russellbazigos5871]

Simonize, are you sure that the gloves and head attack speed are not stacking? It does seem to be working properly for me...

[@SimonizeShow]

activate helm, observe attack speed in character pane. activate glove (so glove and helm are now active), observe attack speed in character pane. it doesn't change. having both buffs active at the same time is not the same as benefiting from both buffs.

[@russellbazigos5871]

Thanks I hadn't noticed that because my macro was using the gloves first and then the helm, which reduced my attack speed, but no more than it would had I just used the helm straight away. @@SimonizeShow

[@alzahelb6053]

what about the 1% crit chance cloak from the event ?

[@xavion15]

I would love to have LW and Eng but it’s just so expensive to do both unless you want to dedicate an alt I guess farming mobs for both main professions and mailing all the mats. Might be something I look into doing

[@Fitter4life]

Weird I have shoulders from ulduman with 12 agility 11 stamina and you don’t post those?

[@SimonizeShow]

this is not a "everything you can equip" list, it is a BIS list with a few alternatives

[@ndb1aydc]

Is insulated chest piece better than blazewind without the set bonus?

[@NotchFly]

can someone explain why sacrificial kris is the best for Off- Hand when it comes to dps? because there are other daggers with a lot better stats even in speed. Is it rly because of the +16ap? i don't get it

[@metamorfik]

16 attack power is good + fast speed for poison proc is good

[@GoatVindicator]

How are you calculating the specific dps numbers for these items?

[@SimonizeShow]

dps estimation spreadsheet found on discord, linked in description

[@Kurtler10]

yay simon time, but also, what is the best gear for rouge?

[@SimonizeShow]

kangaroo leather hat made only by australian specialization leatherworkers. its a secret spec not many people know about, way better than dragonscale leatherworking

[@89padames]

My Master, Agility or Atk power, which should be the main thing @SimonizeShow

[@spappy34]

Would you prefer the cloak with +1% from stv above the sergeants cloak ?

[@SimonizeShow]

this is not a "everything you can equip" list, it is a BIS list with a few alternatives. that cloak is worse than what is listed

[@xMissMaveNx]

Great content! Thank you, Sir! 🫡

[@Shearsss]

thanks for helping out us crap factory rogues

[@antonbaybuldin6736]

Nice video

[@mattlender2127]

Shouldn't the back from STV event be on the bis back list?

[@SimonizeShow]

worse than every option listed

[@trevorrice141]

W

[@georgemartin4259]

The first time I pressed the Experiment 420b trinket after I got it was in orgrimmar to just see what it did, I procced the "push the experiment further" literally on the first try and my char just started spinning round in a circle sort of like the Ravager's weapon effect. As I was just in orgrimmar I'm unsure what kind of damage this does, or if there are any further effects.

[@zanttu23]

oh it does dmg, my tank pulled the adds sadly away

[@russellbazigos5871]

Good video as always mate! Too bad people don't want rogues in the raid...

[@KTwist]

Need to test SND vs Envenom with the new buff to the Dismantle enchant

[@PheonixT-ki8rx]

Is artemis cowl still better than 2 piece helm/boots form BfD? seems like i lose more stats unless i got better boots to swap out bfd tier boots.

[@formatomi]

I use three piece from bfd till i get my blazewing or honored with ab since the hit is useful too with CB build

[@MYOLIT]

Why we should wearing an offhand dagger with low dmg/high speed? I thought that mutilate scales with both weapon dmg?

[@SimonizeShow]

well, mutilate is not the only way your character can deal damage. faster weapon gives more poison damage

[@Premanturan]

What about the Fistweapons sir?

[@phernuttychris7298]

love ur vids man wish you did all classes

[@NuzRäf]

does any trinket or hand attack speed increasement, stack with slice and dice?

[@SimonizeShow]

all stacks with slice and dice

[@NuzRäf]

appreciate it legend

[@SamthePlayer]

I got Sacrificial Kris of the Tiger while farming Ogres for the OOX-22/FE Distress Beacon drop. I thought to myself "Huh. What are the odds I can also farm gut ripper with its less than 0 % drop chance?" 10 hours later, I hate myself for asking.

[@projectundrfire]

Seems like LW and rogue is good enough for raid pre bis. This seems very good.

[@xx-gm6bt]

Good stuff! 🫡

[@3jont]

enchant on weapons?

[@justusmatteson9855]

I thought you couldn't wear both blood harvest weapons?

[@geofft7664]

that goldwrap has hit %. that is huge, i didnt notice that before

[@formatomi]

Amd not much else

[@KirbyTheKirby]

Wouldn't masons frat ring be BIS, or is just expected no one will be able to clear ZF

[@SimonizeShow]

no one can clear ZF because you can't zone in to ZF, it is blocked.

[@Torbomonk]

So the hard question is: considering the gold cost of the epic eng belt, is it worth to get it?

[@SimonizeShow]

only you can decide whats "worth it" for you to get

[@Qwertyfied18]

are gloves of holy might bad?

[@Moistcookie626]

Yes

[@markoskaskaneas1948]

is kris of power +14 much different than +16?

[@yScribblezHD]

No it's marginal.

[@dobban3949]

It's 2 AP difference.

[@dakkoreaan]

Branded Leather Bracers from SM cathredal are alright.. in SoD they have 4 sta 14 AP.

[@SimonizeShow]

about the same as dusky for offensive power, comes from a dungeon = more difficult than 40s crafted item

[@Jayykob]

good vid as always, slightly too loud music tho!

[@TheFuchao]

i thought we go two slow daggers for mutilate, no?

[@SonJouten]

Research shows that the Sacricial blade of power isn't out performing toxic revenger 2 + bloodthirsty blade.

[@SimonizeShow]

ok cool any citation for that research?

[@Eskoxo]

Eh BFD gear felt like actually big upgrades in ph1 but this stuff in ph2 is under whelming when you have full bfd gear does not feel as good.

[@yongedufferin8319]

really hard for rogues to get into pug gnomeregan groups simon :(

[@Fadekiller1]

forgot the swiftwind xbow for 7agi on the ranged slot

[@SimonizeShow]

did not "forget" it, this isn't a "every item you can possibly equip" list, its a BIS list and just a few alternatives

[@smurfaka]

revelosh spauleders from mauraudon is a better alternative to nightscape at least

[@coatesjoseph]

move speed as an enchant is dead because we have shadowstep now. As long as you time it to not global yourself you don't ever need the move speed enchant(Except for pvp)

[@coatesjoseph]

why would sacrificial kris of power be better than the same dagger but with 8 agility. 8 agil = 16 AP and crit. So you gain crit.

[@SimonizeShow]

well its very simple. agility doesn't give 2 attack power per point, only 1.

[@ryanvance1767]

I'm surprise that Alchemy didn't out do engineering

[@mikegtl]

Ngl it’s hard to find a guild or pug that wants a rogue, everyone want range and ferals