Rogue PvE Guide - Talents, Consumables, Rotation - Phase 2 Gnomeregan Season of Discovery

[@SimonizeShow]

Rogue Gearing Guide video is out now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2LVdmqpm7WnZtk

[@csdangerfield]

Thank you!! really helped me make some AH choices :D

[@412iii3]

My rogue master for PvE for a while now, learnt so many little sneaky tricks from you over the time I’ve followed! Big love Simonize

[@bookbookbook1]

I think simonize out of all these channels is the absolute best, his videos I genuinely always learn from. I've been playing some other classes (we all know how hard finding groups is as a rogue) and there isn't nearly as much information content out there that is actually helpful and isn't just blatantly ripped information from those sites like icy veins

[@laurenceoliva4988]

Even though I'm watching this during phase 4, it's really insightful. So many different guides and information out there talk about what you want to do, but don't go into how things actually work. 10 out of 10

[@sonsofodin6143]

You are amazing. So glad I found this channel.

[@matt9618]

Simonize deserves so much more love, he gets straight to the point and tells us what we want to know. Thanks man!

[@martinmana6157]

thanks for addressing opportunity talent because there was no research done on web at least last month on this and I had to test myself :D

[@AdamKurzen]

Dude is a legend. I just wait for his stuff before I do anything.

[@Dzylynyky]

Me too I can't wait until he puts out the toilet paper guide so I can finally wipe my ass in P2, I'm running around with my tank rogue and shitting myself constantly.

[@Hasgore]

he just read. he know nothing

[@jeppedahlguldager3945]

Banger video, thanks for clearing up the fact that the Brew rune uses the highest learned poisons

[@BestestLOL]

Wait so If I don't skill up my poisons it just uses the lowest ones?

[@EntertheFray1]

@@BestestLOL Yes, it will use Instant Poison R1 or Deadly R1 if you haven't bothered to learn R2, R3 etc. It won't automatically Jump to the highest rank it can until you personally have learned it. Just spend 5 minutes at the poison vendor crafting to skill up to learn them and it's np.

[@njemccann]

Hi Simon, thanks very much for the fantastic content (as always). I had a quick question around SnD as part of the rotation. If there is not a meaningful difference for the sustained rotation, would it be more beneficial to swap out of imp SnD to gain 2/2 Murder + extra point in Lethality, or some variation (noting mechanical mobs not affected by Murder)? Happy to hear your views.~N

[@Mike399za]

Also wondering this

[@infinite_worm_fear]

That's by far the best hat!

[@kellenswain2049]

If we arent really running slice and dice, is the 3rd point in imp snd necessary? Maybe better in lethality?

[@SlaithFTW]

Thank you, Simonize ! You are our true class leader !

[@J4Guvnah]

You are so concise and informative. Thank you so much! Keep up the great work!

[@truemiltonic]

Another kick ass vid, always appreciate you and your shared work Simonize.

[@Rezman-WoW]

Really great breakdown. Definitely helpful as a rogue entering into Gnomer!

[@glocktopus888]

Thanks buddy! Been waiting weeks for this post lol

[@alaia_worldwide]

As always, an amazing video. Many thanks for the quick and very helpful overview. Keep up the good work!

[@BaPeSuP]

Wouldnt a vanish before 5CP envenom with cold blood be a better use of vanish for 10% extra dmg on big finisher?

[@JL-qo3ld]

interesting to know about the poison snapshotting

[@eatberries3173]

Awesome video mister Simonize, everytime you teach me something new

[@cadeb11]

Does this mean even if we have 4 points we mut again to get 5 before we use envenom? Seems like alot of lost uptime of envenom rather than just dumping with 4 and not wasting a combo point.

[@carlongo]

This is what i wanna know aswell. Feels like it would be better to dump them on 4 and obvously on 5 when you get 5 from the talent?

[@thefunkyman6407]

Very useful, Ive been lacking in dps lately

[@wavysinatra]

I'm actually really proud of myself for know most of this info but really great guide as always simone

[@danielray5511]

great video, straight to the point and accurate info. ty!

[@Nishinga.]

Dude thank you so much for all the help you provide us with, I appreciate it a lot

[@redRAID3R]

WE LOVE SIMONIZE LETSA GO

[@fuzzydimpelz9985]

Very much appreciated advice. You are the best, my dude.

[@SkyzorzSB]

I learned so much from this. Thank you so much for this video man. You gave me a lot to investigate and improve on.

[@Izevkov]

God of all rogues! Thank you very much for that you are doing! Keep going and good luck! We will prove rogues can crush dps metters once again!

[@universpresent9845]

Thanks a lot ! Your informations helped me being best dd during phase 1.

[@montanamuse3617]

Can you do a video for tanking? and talk about maybe using epic fist weapons vs. muti build?

[@idhunxx]

thanks for your guides and efforts as always!

[@tatedoh]

So you only use slice if you are opening , or don’t have 5 stacks ? Other than that just envenom only ?

[@zolko1986-m9z]

No. Slice must be active all the time.

[@gytisu2425]

@@zolko1986-m9z Thats not true, he said in the video, you look for those windows where you don't get an extra combo point from Ruthlessness and then use SnD with 4 Combo Points if it is down. If it procced and you have 5 CPs after 2 Mutilates, you Envenom even if SnD is not active. Plus, you have to make sure the boss does not die before SnD timer runs out, or else its a waste.

[@Dim3s]

So one more time, those ten talent points for the poisons in the assassination tree are better than improved backstab crits more frequently? What about the extra hit too you can grab? My current build I only go up to lethality in assassination, the regen 1 talent point, imp backstab to modify mute, hit % and opportunity

[@connorhonor]

I had no idea about a lot of these tricks, gg

[@forsbergwijnaldumfries2573]

You make my life so much easier as a rogue, love your content

[@beeeezeaezez7488]

Great video as always ! Thanks Simon

[@Earltotoro]

You can also pair cold blood with vanish to boost envenom crit

[@PNRobo]

Nice video. I have q. What poison u recomend use on offhand? If i have deadly poison or insta poison and deadly rune proc it more?

[@jacklarsen4]

I was confused at first if cold blood affected envenom thx for confirming.

[@Pickles69696]

my goat

[@jattmonsoongaming]

took out the part about the engineering bombs?

[@Rave.-]

Quality as always. +1 comment for the algorithm overlords.

[@dflowers6771]

thanks Simon i been waiting for this one one thing for rogues who also want to pvp with the raid build l, only take 2/5 imp poisons and 2/3 imp slice which lets you take 5/5 lethality and 2/2 murder not many people can survive the stunlock

[@ChefPharmD]

Has anyone ever thought about dropping improved slice and dice for more crit since we don't really use SnD after the opener anymore?

[@Papriqa]

When should you use your Void-Touched Leather Gloves?

[@Vazarius]

Awesome, as always!

[@spodley]

So if you 2x mutilate, and only have 4combo points (and 5 stacks of deadly poison) would you mutilate again, or envenom at 4combopoints?

[@AndersMJustesen]

Whats your take on garrote atm? Just a waste or decent opener?

[@michaelcoleman9158]

excellent as always

[@phernuttychris7298]

Great video man love all ur stuff

[@FS-mv7bx]

Great video! Thanks

[@djMaki]

pve goat , ty

[@matthewcoon8019]

You’re the man thanks for your work.

[@Sloozan59]

Hey I was wondering when do you think its best to pop gloves/belt/hat? I assume it would be right off the rip and after vanish with the 10% dmg buff but I don't see many top logs doing that. Is there something I'm missing? I would assume making the most out of the 10% dmg buff with extra crit and attack speed to be the best time.

[@mikepeterson4061]

You got rid of the bombs part. How do i use these

[@fro0d]

Why are you going slice and dice talents if you don't use slice and dice in the rotation?

[@Cpt_Chirp]

Thanks for the info!

[@michaelac7320]

So good. Go-to rogue

[@pete.w27306]

I question the wildtstrikes and shadow oil as when i was running instant poisons both MH/OH and the tool tip would say "Do you wish to replace wildstrikes with instant poison", i still showed as having the wildstrikes buff despite wildstrikes not appearing on the weapon? I am guessing it only shows as a buff because i am in the wildstrike group but not actually benefitting from it? Is that correct otherwise there is no harm running 2x shadow oil both mh/oh still getting wildstrike buff

[@pete.w27306]

In addition to this, from the raid i've done tonight, Shadow Oil is a complete waste of time. On a Thermaplugg fight it did 700/800 dmg overall across a fight where I was north of 100k total dmg. I swapped to instant poison III on my OH which did circa 11k dmg overall and an increase of 50dps between the two fights. For the love of god do not run Shadow Oil OH over Instant Poison III

[@austinstar1100]

Great guide

[@ElemorOG]

Question, since mutilate is stacking 2 combo points, do we always want to use it 3 times and "waste" 1 combo point?

[@bonemealx]

I believe you always wanna do 5 point Envenom bc it’s a big difference in damage between 4-5 combo points

[@ElemorOG]

@@bonemealx but envenom's DMG is affected only by amount causes according to the tooltip. Combo points add only extra seconds to the poison proc chance (?)

[@xiner1337]

Also lost on this tbh

[@bonemealx]

@@ElemorOGAccording to tooltip, 1 dose is activated per combo point. so at 4 doses (4cp) it’s [( * 100 / 100) * 4 + Attack power * 0.36] damage and for 5 it’s [( * 100 / 100) * 5 + Attack power * 0.45] damage

[@trevorrice141]

Yes 5 is better than 4 because of damage,the buff duration, and 100% chance of proccing relentless strikes. Its just better

[@sirlionheart4614]

Awesome guide.

[@XXIXIIXXXXI]

been parsing 96-100s while only using S&D on the first 2 point opener, maybe taking 1 point out of S&D might be worth it

[@Muranight]

Very nice guide :)

[@Hivedingo]

Great tips!!

[@danilovsy]

hi! if u r talking about max ur dmg - than u should drink fire spell dmg pot too, coz it buffs ur dragonchill food

[@amberleaf4740]

Why spec into SnD then if we arent going to use it

[@edouardfault3669]

great content as usual 👍

[@TheUmper]

Good afternoon. When will there be a leveling guide for the rogue tank?

[@icecold4o]

Great video keep it up G

[@ryan6881]

HI, Which poisons do we apply?

[@Resth-rg3el]

i wonder what about a tank rogue style insted?

[@bentobul5932]

How much of a difference instant offhand loses to shadow oil? Does any one know? It’s a whole lot cheaper for just a minor dps loss

[@13th_hero]

Brother, the melee hunters just overshadow me by 65-110%. This is just savage to watch my dps drop down the meter from top 1-2 to 5-6... :|

[@KeyGk1]

What is the multitarget rotation when mobs die quickl? Like in dungeons.

[@RennieWalnuts]

forever the goat

[@austinstar1100]

So u dont open backstab ? U jusy mutilate out of stealth?

[@batuhankaratas1440]

Can we apply sharpening stones/oils to both weapons if there are no dudus or shamans? Do we get the benefit from both stones/oils? Thanks!

[@jackblack5907]

Would seal fate be an option to get more envenoms in?

[@isaacmawson84]

Di u think this spec is still best if you have 0% + hit?

[@BringMeTheSandwich]

If you have a decent duration of s&d up, and full stack of deadly poison but only 4 combo points, would you do envenom next or mutilate? Considering you will waste a combo point by doing mutilate?

[@buzz101115]

Also thank you for all the videos

[@nigelrichens3938]

Just a. It burnt out after level my Hunter and got pre bis really need to get back to the rogue !

[@HelgeM1407]

Nice Video! What do you think about using garrote in the Opener? Worth or Not?

[@EternalInfusion]

not worth

[@60SecTimeAttack]

What about enchants for weapons, does dismantle stack?

[@llMcSH4DYll]

any tips for a little rogue doing stv event ?

[@TimeForTrim]

Best addons for rogue for gnomer ?

[@darkwingmot]

Is Orc the best horde race for rogue? And how much better if so?

[@notforwardslash]

Good video, good hat

[@scottgibson474]

If cold blood works with envenom does this mean imp eviscerate would also work with envenom?

[@scottgibson474]

@@FrostyComes damn thanks for the reply, saved me a couple gold respeccing to find out 😂

[@xMissMaveNx]

THE GOAT

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

Eyy Vallah Bey

[@immortal1337]

why no more slice and dice? everybody say use slice and dice. I should not use slice and dice? is bad?

[@BungholeScape]

tyvm!

[@pompeylado]

Good one is cold blood, vanish, 5point evenom, crit with master of sub rune. Get about 1.5-1.6 evenom

[@Justwoo]

another great video from the hat man 💯💯

[@Jonasgp123]

Our Rogue Lord and Savior 🔪🔪

[@Nightcorefan00]

would you play combat for tanking?

[@pickupsticks3942]

quality of life book reducing thistle tea to 2 min CD when? good vid as always my man