Rohde & Schwarz RTM3004 oscilloscope first look.

[@MoritzvonSchweinitz]

Imagine how nervous the engineers that made this scope must feel when they hear that Mike's going to publically review it!

[@nikkopt]

That is indeed an HDMI "B" Dual-link connector. They were never used, hdmi spec 1.3 came and increased the speed without needing more diff pairs.

[@gordonlawrence4749]

When getting a Rhode&Swartz the first thing to do is recover from the price tag.

[@DOGMA1138]

Nah you just get the base model and hack the firmware for free upgrades.

[@philippeannet]

R&S is not precisely known for their 'hackability'... so far, nothing known for recent scopes...

[@DOGMA1138]

all the upgrades are done via software licenses only on the same base model, you don't even really need to reflash the firmware you just need to know the serial number of the scope to generate a license key.

[@philippeannet]

Oh yeah ??? With what algorithm, please ?????? This is the case for many, many brands and models, but the generation scheme is far from being 'public', and while some brands/models are cracked, some (and R&S is one of them !) remain unharmed so far ! If you've got hot news, I'd glad to hear it !!!

[@DOGMA1138]

Check the firmware, it's a pretty simple algo derived with a luhn checksum ;)

[@gsuberland]

Looked at the pricing... about twenty grand of kit there with the options and bandwidth upgrade if I'm not reckoning it incorrectly.

[@DmitriIvanov]

Clicked just to check it out, ended up watching the whole thing. Really nice overview and great that you take a look inside of it! Subbed...

[@supyrow]

WOW what a hell of a nice scope!

[@TechGorilla1987]

It should be for the price of a cheap used car!

[@AverageJoe2020]

Um, the last cheap car I bought was £20.00, and it was a beut, Ford Granada 2.0 twin cam, nice, but rusty.. J.

[@AverageJoe2020]

And, Hi! Bobby.

[@TechGorilla1987]

+Average Joe - Do we know each other?

[@AverageJoe2020]

I doubt it, I was just hijacking a comment stream, You okay?

[@AverageJoe2020]

That is a shitting good scope, I am impressed by CRT scopes still. J.

[@0xbenedikt]

4:20 I find this surprising, as my RTC1K COM2 clearly does have this feature while the 2000 series does not

[@timeltdme4355]

which feature exactly?

[@PlasmaHH]

Does it have fft filters as math functions? I kind like those in the rigol and would love to see it properly implemented in good quality somewhere

[@tHaH4x0r]

Looks pretty fancy, but I still dont get the glaring screen. Having finally played with a new R&S scope at uni I do really like the intuitive user interface they put on it with the touch screen. Worked a lot better than I thought.

[@simontay4851]

As you would expect from R&S.

[@mikeselectricstuff]

Shiny screen is only an issue if there are lights reflecting off it when in normal position - in this case an antiglare screen protector is a reasonable fix ( and protects against scratches) , though the Keysight glass antiglare screen is a lot better.

[@MaximilianRehkopf]

I own an RTB2004 and I'm wondering if it's worth upgrading to an RTM3004. One thing that I find a bit annoying about the RTB2004 is that the UI feels a bit sluggish when switching modes, navigating menus and such. I wonder if the RTM3004 is more snappy, that would be a big plus for me.

[@afroninjadeluxe]

I am sorry about the bluescreen, you tried your best. next time, try to have the unnecessary screws taken out.

[@slip0n0fall]

Any current firmware/option unlocks in the wild?

[@Eric-ss5ip]

MIL-STD-1553 is still used in aerospace but modern systems uses SpaceWire or ARINC which you will find in every modern airplane.

[@gordonlawrence4749]

MIL-STD-1773 is the military standard used for fly by light. There are still plenty of military aircraft being developed with MIL-STD-1553B though.

[@Factory400]

The FFT is a pretty nice upgrade for a scope. Probably the best one in this class.

[@inductorbackemf7204]

Hi,does anyone know if you can upgrade the scope at a later point?,Thanks in advance,Alex.

[@inductorbackemf7204]

And if you can upgrade the Bandwith,thanks.

[@mikeselectricstuff]

yes, it is software upgradeable up to 1GHz

[@inductorbackemf7204]

Ah thanks will be buying it today.

[@iamdarkyoshi]

Fantastic idea with the USB communication choice on the active probes. Why go to the length of designing your own protocol when USB can already do what you need? Does make me wonder what happens if you conect the USB interface on the probe to a PC... I'm sure windows would just be like wtf is this, but linux may actually have some interesting things to play with

[@mikeselectricstuff]

The USB ports would be host, not device.

[@timeltdme4355]

i think he meant connecting probes pins to your computers host

[@dos541]

RTM (read the manual) its hinting that we all should do something

[@palaceofhatee]

math on math channels is a unique feature? my 20 year old lecroy spoils me

[@andrewnambudripad762]

That power analyzing functionality would be so so great to wipe out the Fluke 17xx. Getting 3 phases with full power analysis ability at 10 bit then being able to correlate it against vibration analysis tooling = a process engineers wet dream. I'm guessing their power measurement functionality is more for single phase applications (seeing how clean your SMPS is, etc) and IoT/MIMO stuff. That scope basically seems absolutely perfect as for you as a dev (rather than a field) instrument though considering what you do (lots of power problems for CC with LEDs and then tons of uc stuff so UART/i2c).

[@maxusboostus]

No spare screws after re-assembly.. Shame ! :-)

[@zvpunry1971]

When a coworker disassembled a laptop, I got a few spare screws and put them on his desk. It was great fun, watching him searching the empty screw holes. ;)

[@MrWaalkman]

Mmmm, no thanks. I think that I'll hang on to my Rigol DS1054Z (which "fell" on its head, and now thinks that it is a DS1104Z). $349 USD, and it does everything a home enthusiast could hope for. It's also my work scope, and at 350 bucks, it isn't the end of the world if it walks off on the job.

[@uzaiyaro]

MrWaalkman it’s a completely different part of the market, though. The rigol is an awesome scope and nobody says otherwise, it’s just that mixed signal scopes can get pricey real quick. $350 for an oscilloscope is about as cheap as they will ever get, there’s no room to move on that sort of price. And you sure as hell are not getting *any* mixed signal scope for much change from a grand.

[@terrorista-666-]

16:30

[@RemcoStoutjesdijk]

From 4k usd with a 2k usd FPGA inside. Surely R&S are getting better prices...

[@supyrow]

right?!

[@GeorgeTsiros]

more stuff i will never afford :(

[@Barnekkid]

Rohde & Schwarz never sends me anything...

[@ZONNEKAT]

😥

[@MrDubje]

ooh, I'm early it seems, lol. It's not in my price range but always fun to watch, and it might, just might, come in handy someday...

[@DonkeyLearningIT]

I would never measure anything above 100KHz, so I could not even use its 1GHz bandwidth. I think these scopes are for companies who are developing fancy high frequency boards using DDR3 RAM and such.

[@MrDubje]

Exactly. What I meant was: the info might come in handy for the day I even get near such an expensive device... Oh wait. I had the "delight" to operate an Infiniium with 17" touchscreen (or so) at work (forgot which model, we rent it!). Unusable for day to day measurements, but fun nonetheless.

[@DonkeyLearningIT]

Yeah, renting is not a bad option. At the end of the day the bandwidth/features these high end scopes will be rarely used. For a hobbyist or for a repair shop it is way too much of a gear. Though, what I hate is that they try to make even more money on you by asking you to pay for serial decoding or for any decoding, which is a standard feature on a cheapo digital analyzer.

[@Landrew0]

Never a lie in here late, have I seen in here "mate,"

[@kaimac1]

That is a very nicely labelled board.

[@JackZimmermann]

Holy moly! I need to win the lottery...

[@DonkeyLearningIT]

Mike, can you actually keep this scope, or you have to send them back? In Germany the rules are clear: you must send back the device, otherwise you would need to add its manufacturers recommended price to your income, and pay lots of taxes on it.

[@jonhdoe1395]

This is absolutely retarded. I assume they make you also pay income tax on birthday gifts?

[@DonkeyLearningIT]

You must pay extra tax *if you receive a donation* I joke you not. Practically they are desperate to raise money, and they will do anything to get the cash out of your pocket. These socialists are worse than bankers.

[@Nermash]

Only if you report it :)

[@DonkeyLearningIT]

They will bend you over (and not just) backwards if you do not report all cents you made/got donated. Otherwise they will give you HUGE fines, or even time behind bars. Interestingly if you hurt somebody, you can easily get away with that, as long as it is not about money, or against the state.

[@simontay4851]

What if friends/family gave you money for xmas/birthday? Do you need to declare that? Does it depend how much?

[@JAKOB1977]

that doesnt sound like good rotary encoders... sounds cheap as f.. 1:13 likely not as bad as Siglent that as I understand don't even have indents. are this Rohde & Schwarz lubricating social media influencers with this R&S gear, as I notice both you and this other fellow mjlorton ended up with this, but he never explains if it paid pr0m0tion on any of his videos - and something it obviously will be if a vendor lubricates you with an item in exchange for promotion/advertising/displaying. so kudos for keeping this transparent. and follow our rules here in YT and inform it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fojXgHSNjL5jZ5I as a shareholder in alphabet inc.. I really would prioritise that YT took actions on channels that don't as Techmoan also explain above.. as its gone berserk the last 5 years not least from CN companies trying to lubricate with goodies left and right, in exchange for pr0m0tion and its one slippery slope, where the lowest common value will become the norm and any aspect of transparency will be out with the bathwater..

[@FlexxVision]

Ein Träumchen .. but 10 bit, ....

[@0xbenedikt]

So what is the problem with 10 bits? It's better than a lot of other scopes that only do 8 bit.

[@basspig]

4 grand for a scope that displays ragged looking sinewaves. Why isn't the display at least 300ppi at this price?

[@bfx8185]

Looks nice! hmmm

[@yoramstein]

Hello Mike. Please no eating potatos while shuting a videos ;-) . We non native English speakers are having difficulties understanding your English (you swallow at lot of words). PLS Go " Escape to the country" (BBC1 daily 15:00) Yorkshir accent which will be more understandable. 2nd coment: You wave too much in front of the camera. Pointing is ok. Further nice videos (Subscribed). Keep in touch with the Dutch.

[@vitormhenrique]

Let me keep dreaming....

[@PodeCoet]

...Oh my

[@Hexor1211]

Why they put that fancy shiny reflective screen!? This is shit. If I wanted iPhone or Samsung piece of shit phone I would buy one. Scope is for work. Work means I have lights somewhere around the table. Now, I need to find that special angle to view signal trace instead reflection of light fixture behind me! Not gonna pass for the price tag.

[@AureliusR]

Agreed

[@daverhodes382]

Grow up.

[@Anvilshock]

This costs a lot of money. I won't be buying one. Also, I can't drive.

[@NewLevelAuto]

Second to first

[@gotj]

First!

[@Okurka.]

Idiot.

[@gotj]

@Okurka: you know what