Roland FP-E50 Review

My IN-DEPTH review on the Roland FP-E50 Digital Piano - my favorite Roland piano!
There are SO many features to summarize that this review is quite long, so there are links below to different sections if you want to skip to features that interest you. And I have to thank Long & McQuade for allowing me to rent this piano even though it's not part of their normal rental pool. Check them out at www.long-mcquade.com
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Intro: 0:00
Compared To The FP-Line: 0:58
FP-E50 Feature Summary: 3:18
Update The Firmware!: 4:24
Key Action: 5:35
User Interface & General Functions: 7:33
Sounds: 22:18
Sound Demo: 24:36
Connectivity: 30:16
Rhythms & Accompaniment: 33:52
Chord Sequencer: 42:38
Songs (Audio Files): 59:13
Mic FX: 1:02:58
Scenes (Registration Memory): 1:09:55
Speakers: 1:14:29
Speaker Demo: 1:15:17
Portability: 1:15:50
The Verdict: 1:16:20
Negatives? (Minor): 1:17:15
Competition: 1:18:10
Closing Remarks: 1:19:22
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[@antonivillacreces4245]

Thank you very much! Your documentation for this keyboard is great, the most detailed guide I've found so far🙂👌

[@PianoTone]

Thanks so much glad you found it helpful! And thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@dominiqueguelordingala1935]

Thanks for a thorough run through the machine.

[@PianoTone]

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[@crispindry]

Good review and so very detailed, many thanks.

[@PianoTone]

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[@manu-singh]

Awesome piano and super in depth review as always

[@PianoTone]

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[@manu-singh]

@@PianoTonealready subscribed months ago, remember i have a fp10

[@PianoTone]

@@manu-singh Awesome thanks! (Sorry it's hard to remember!).

[@edrock26]

Your video really helped me! Excellent job. Thank you!

[@PianoTone]

Thanks, glad it was helpful! And thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@suzannegrandma1150]

Thank you so much for explanations. I wish I had a pdf of all the instructions you gave us.❤

[@PianoTone]

Glad you found it helpful! And thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe

[@hodlsapiens3213]

Thank you for the great extensive and indepth review of all the features. I'm totally new to playing piano, i have bought this piano last week, and I have been really enjoying it so far! By the way, you mention that volume from USB IN can not be controlled from the external device, but in my experience it can. I have my Tab S9 connected via USB-C OTG adapter to the USB-B port on the piano, and it lets me control the output volume right from the tablet. Thanks again for all the information in this video!

[@PianoTone]

Thanks for that info, super useful! Maybe that's just an iOS thing then. And glad you're enjoying your E50! If you're new to piano, I also have some reviews for online courses that worked well for me if you want to check them out: kzbin.info/aero/PL_W0EMCT9oNb7OQ7TiB0WHZv7K4k1bScA Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@williamlandry5652]

Hey have you had any issues with some of the keys starting to make a clicking sound after some time? I've only had the piano for a week and several keys have started to make a clicking sound when pressed and you can even feel the dexterity is different, have you had this issue?

[@hodlsapiens3213]

@@williamlandry5652 I have not experienced any clicking sound or changing feeling in the keys so far. If it gets clicky that fast after purchase, is definitely get in touch with the shop you bought it from for a repair/replacement.

[@cinepost]

Still enjoying it? What else were you considering before you bought?

[@hodlsapiens3213]

@@cinepost absolutely 100% ! I considered the FP30X and FP60X. After a lot of research, I concluded that the FP30X is more than enough for me. I almost bought it, but after reading more reviews on it, many people wrote that the controls on the FP30X are a bit of a hassle. Like changing volume is pressing menu button, and some key on the piano. Changing settings or sound, another combination of a menu key and piano key. On top of that, there is no display, so you never really know what you're doing. That sounded very cumbersome to me, and I was afraid I would get frustrated by it and quit playing, just because of that interface. The FPE50 is everything the 30X has, but with dedicated volume sliders, menu buttons and an LCD screen. Plus, a WHOLE lot more, that I currently don't use for 90% but might be in the future. Since the difference with the 30X was only like $100, I decided to go with the FPE50. I'd rather pay a little more, and be done for the next 10 years (hopefully), than pay a little less, and get frustrated by clunky controls, taking away the fun of playing piano. Also, I listened to both of them in the music store, and the 30X just sounded a little 'off' for me, a little dampened/cutoff or something. I love the fpE50 and I'm sure it will be years of fun/practice before I need something else. Excuse me for the wall of text, 🤣

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Really nice instrument. The SN sounds from Roland sound great (got a used Roland Jupiter 50 with SN sounds as regular synth sounds ).

[@PianoTone]

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[@piano_premium]

so sad to hear you're not going to get a FP-E50 but.... what a great tutorial you did!! Thanks a lot, I'll try to create a simple app for Chord Sequencer you shared on minute 42:00. You've inspired me to go in deep with my FPE50. Thanks a lot!!!!

[@PianoTone]

Thanks so much, glad you found the video useful. And thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@williamlandry5652]

Hey have you had any issues with some of the keys starting to make a clicking sound after some time? I've only had the piano for a week and several keys have started to make a clicking sound when pressed and you can even feel the dexterity is different, have you had this issue?

[@piano_premium]

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[@mfurman]

@@williamlandry5652Did you check my comments under this video and perhaps my video about Roland FP-10 (PHA-4) Action Noise

[@natalialmaz1989]

Hello.A very informative video.ThanksPlease tell me, I formatted the USB I got 4 folders on a flash drive, which one should I throw the file into ?And this file, as I understand it, is already being unpacked, right?

[@PianoTone]

Sorry I just rented this piano so I don't have access to it anymore

[@kadamin]

ThankU :)

[@PianoTone]

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[@Daniel.jac11]

Hey! Great video this, really detailed and thank you a lot for this. Also i wanted to know can we use the FP E50 without the sustain pedal and get some Release like hiw Yamaha has an function named M. Release where one can adjust the amount of sustain for the keys even without a pedal? Thanks in advance. 👍

[@PianoTone]

Hi there; to be honest I'm not sure! You'd need to check through the manual online. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@williamlandry5652]

No you cannot, no pedal, no sustain release.

[@MusicDive-ex7mi]

Thank you very much for the detailed review. I am total beginner, so any purchase is way ahead of me, but the thing with response/return time of the keys is worrisome. It is for sure not given unit issue, because I've heard it already from various sources. Pity Roland didn't fix it when creating FP-E50 out of 30X but then probably E50 would cost more.

[@PianoTone]

Thanks so much glad you enjoyed the review. To me the key action of the FP-E50 is identical to the FP-30X (some people love the PHA4, some don't). Whether you like the action is totally personal - if you can, you should try out the PHA4 and Yamaha and Casio actions in a store to compare. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@MusicDive-ex7mi]

@@PianoTone As for Casio, in my private ranking they are banned for the black keys blunder in 1100 and the way they handled it. Comparing keyboards live would be the best, at the right time (maybe finally Korg will update its D1, it would be my choice) I'll see around. I am of course subscriber, once I found your channel I wouldn't miss any new content 🙂

[@PianoTone]

@@MusicDive-ex7mi That's awesome thanks for subscribing! Review coming soon on the Yamaha P-225 :)

[@mfurman]

Thank you for the review. Interestingly, I tested FP-10 and FP-30X again today. I just wanted to (again) conclude if PHA-4 is closer to the grand piano action than actions of similar priced digital pianos (I should mention that I had three digital pianos with PHA-4 action, between Oct 2020 and Oct 2021). Comparing with the action of Yamaha C7 that I play regularly, PHA-4 is heavier and has a harder “bottom”. My biggest problem with PHA-4 is how noisy and clicky it is (especially when white keys are coming to the resting position). I recorded a video of the PHA-4 action noise. I am hoping that Roland improved the way the action is cushioned. I will check this piano to check it. Once again, thank you for the video and inspiring me. Michael Furmaniak Ps. I currently have P-225 and am considering either P-525 or may just spend more time playing C7. I am not interested in any other sounds than acoustic piano but FP-E50 deserves to be checked.

[@PianoTone]

The action feels exactly the same as FP-30X and FP-10. L&M finally has P-225's in my area so that will be my next review; after that probably the new Piagerros.

[@mfurman]

@@PianoTone Thank you very much Tony. I am very much looking forward to your thoughts about GHC action.

[@mfurman]

@@PianoToneHave you really checked the heaviness and key noise of PHA-4 in this digital piano, Tony? Stu Harrison, claims that the action is quieter. I am referring to his main review of FP-E50 (at ~11:20). I will check the action with weights and record the sound of keys. This will be my last attempt to test PHA-4. Michael

[@PianoTone]

@@mfurman To be honest I didn't really check the noise of the action and I've never actually weighed keys before - it just felt the same as the prior PHA4's I've played. After I watched your video on the FP-10 noise I did quickly compare it to my CK88 out of curiosity and it was louder than my CK88 but I can't say if it's quieter than the other FPs

[@mfurman]

@@PianoTone I started to check the noise of the actions after I realized that this is what usually bothers me about a piano action when playing very quiet (p or pp) passages. When I tested FP-10 recently and played J.S. Bach Prelude No.1 in C Major BWV846, I was distracted by the noise of lower octave key sounds and once again realized that I need quiet action. When playing an acoustic piano (C7 in my case), it is different because of dispersion of the sound but the keys do not click much when coming up to resting position. What is noisy are the sounds of moving pedal mechanism. GHC action of P-225 is light, quite fast and relatively very quiet but I like the escapement feel of PHA-4 and the fact that the keys move easily after the initial resistance. This is why I am still coming back to PHA-4 which is an interesting but compromised (by its clickiness) action.

[@realstreetuk]

Hi Does anyone who has this keyboard know if you can save your chord detection settings and when restart the keyboard they are there ready to use? Every time I power up.to play I have to go and alter chord detection again for my liking

[@pushpakpawar]

Thanks a lot for the detailed review. Okay now I am really confused between Roland FP-E50 and Yamaga DGX 670. I tried both pieces in a store and I prefer the touch sensitivity of Yamaha better. Couple of questions from my side - 1. Does DGX 670 have anything similar to the Roland chord sequencer? It sounds like a big deal 2. The Intelligent mode for chords accompaniment on FP-E50 is a handy tool. Is there anything like that again in DGX 670? Thanks in advance!

[@PianoTone]

They're both great pianos; if you like the touch on the Yamaha better (I do too; lots of people don't - everyone has their own preference) that's a big point in the DGX favor. My general recommendation is: if you want to gig/need portability get the Roland (the Yamaha is a beast), if it's mostly staying put (and especially if you like the Yamaha action better) get the Yamaha. 1. The DGX doesn't have something where you can input a chord chart and then pick a style to play it; instead you could record a "chord chart" yourself by recording a MIDI song (where you're just playing the chords for the entire song and controlling the accompaniment) then once you've got that recorded it's a nice homemade backing track. Did a video on MIDI recording here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-6lJqFabGXZtk 2. The DGX has a number of chord detection modes (I don't play "arranger" style, I like playing (and hearing) my left hand so I like the DGX having 2 options for full keyboard chord detection ; went over all of them in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4jcq6Okl8yVaqM Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@pushpakpawar]

Thanks a lot for your response. I'll go through the videos. :)

[@billsalkin1147]

How readable is the LCD display on the FP-E50 ? (On the video it appears to be significantly bleached out and hard to read)

[@PianoTone]

It's easy enough to read when you're sitting at the piano (typical black white LCD screen); it can be surprisingly challenging to film keyboard screens well (especially with my iPhone :) Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@claytonlemieux4090]

Do Roland make a cabinet for this electronic panio to goalong with the 3 pedals

[@PianoTone]

There is a custom stand and pedal unit on Roland's website: www.roland.com/us/products/fp-e50/accessories/ Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@noelinecahill3630]

Hi Piano Tone, my question is I am wondering, would you be able to save commercial GS midi files onto a USB stick and if so just plug it into the USB port in the keyboard and would the list of midi files would show in the LCD display for selection, I have been using the Roland G 1000 that had floppy drive for this purpose, hopefully you can help very much appreciated await your reply kind regards Noeline

[@PianoTone]

To be honest I'm not sure sorry! I only rented the piano for a couple of weeks a few months back so I can't test anything out for you. Maybe take a look through the various manuals on Roland's site? Sorry I couldn't help!

[@davidmulcahy4864]

No it doesnt play midi files. I found that out after purchasing. It isnt a multi timberal midi instrument so cant play midi of more than one sound at a time. I have an old Casio keyboard rigged up with its audio connected into my FP-E50 in order to play midi backing tracks. Great piano spoilt by stupid midi implementation.

[@noelinecahill3630]

Hello David thank you for your advice very much appreciated kind regards Noeline

[@natalialmaz1989]

Maybe you can make an additional video on the topic of software updates. Thanks

[@PianoTone]

I only rented this piano, so I don't have access to it anymore; but thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@blueeyedsoulman]

Do you have to pay for the add on ZenCore sounds? If so, how much?

[@PianoTone]

To be honest I have no idea sorry! Thanks for checking out the channel

[@mfurman]

Hello Tony. I am getting RD-08 and I am wondering if you ever tested RD-88. Thank you, Michael I would have possibly got FP-E50 but it is too heavy for me. There are other aspects of RD-08 that I prefer when comparing with FP-E50 (such as three pedal option).

[@PianoTone]

I've never heard of the RD-08 lol; I played the RD-88 in store many times when looking for a stage piano, but never bought it because of the PHA4 action, so can't really say too much about it sorry!

[@mfurman]

@@PianoTone RD-08 was announced last week and is already available in Canada. I am getting it because of PHA-4 🙂. GHC started to annoy me with its "springiness". Michael

[@PianoTone]

@@mfurman Cool let me know how it is - I'll try to get to that one (eventually lol)

[@PianoTone]

@mfurman Did you order it yet? Saw a used RD88 at L&M for $1295. Having to pay extra for the audio interface = ugh. And the 88 is on sale at L&M now as it is for only $300 more than the 08

[@mfurman]

@@PianoTone I did and should be getting it soon. I thought about RD-88 quite a bit but I decided that with my Focusrite Scarlett (newest version) I do not really need internal Digital Audio Interface. I never use any external rhythms or songs and RD-08 speakers are not good enough to listen to my piano VSTs through them (I always practice with headphones and record directly to my iPhone using the second Focusrite Scarlett). Getting a studio monitor would be less than a difference in price between RD-88 and RD-08. In reality, I intend to use RD-08 as a MIDI controller for my piano VSTs and only use electric piano, organ and synthesizer sounds of RD-08. I can always pay $300 to get the functionality of internal Digital Audio Interface in the future. I like simpler layout of RD-08 controls and output options, especially three pedal option. I also hope that PHA-4 action will have newer, better lubrication. I never considered getting a used digital piano. RD-08 is light but has all the output options of FP-90X that I had. By the way, RD-88 is C$350 more expensive than RD-08 Thank you for your suggestions, Tony. Michael Ps. Roland A-88 mkII is more expensive and heavier than RD-08. 13.5 kg is my weight limit for a digital piano so even FP-30X is too heavy for me.

[@claytonlemieux4090]

Thank you the KSF- 50+KDP-70 WILLWORK FOR ME

[@PianoTone]

Cool! No stores where I am carry Kawai, I'd love to review one some day. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@x2mars]

Gteat review. Is it possible to have just drums and bass accompaniment?

[@PianoTone]

Hmm to be honest I don't remember for sure . . .but I don't THINK so. I THINK it's drums or drums and all accompaniment . . . Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@seyli04]

I am beginner looking for a good acoustic piano sound and i’m hesitating between taking the fp 10 or the fpe 50. I don’t know if it’s worth the upgrade for someone of my level

[@PianoTone]

If you are looking to just play classical music I would save the money and buy the FP-10; but if you are interested in modern pop, rock etc then the FP-E50 is 10x better for that, and totally worth the extra $. Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@seyli04]

Thanks for the help I really appreciate it! Suscribed

[@charlesworton4020]

The FP-E50 is a great instrument, but it has a real flaw in the MIDI. Instead of using 16 midi channels like most midi devices do, the E50 is limited to one MIDI channel. This means that any layered tones are not transmitted over midi, making it impossible to record the unit to a personal computer running DAW software. In addition, nothing in the rhythm/accompaniment section is sent over MIDI. Not a good solution for anyone recording to a home computer.

[@PianoTone]

Wow thanks for sharing that! I always record in audio never MIDI so I tend to miss those details! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@user-br6vy2nc1r]

Hi, there is a severe issue with piano sounds, at least on my machine. I had the FP-E50 for few weeks now. This is very frustrating. In your video the piano sounds normally and very very good, while on my machine it sounds very muffled and deaf, far beyond any reasonable measure. I addressed this issue on other reviews of the FP-E50 and hope someone can shed some light on what's going on. I like very much everything else about this keyboard, furthermore all other sounds (like brass, strings, guitar, drums etc) sound correctly and really nice. The problem is only with piano sounds. On my machine it sounds like high frequencies were completely cut off. Impossible to play this way. Tried with different quite good speakers and the result is always the same: pianos sound very bad; all other instruments sound very nice. Could it be it has something to do with the engine that produces the sound, just guessing, like SuperNatural vs Zen? Could it be that only my machine is somehow faulty? How would this be even possible? Please, any advice would be really appreciated. Thank you very much

[@PianoTone]

Hi there! Sorry to hear that! It's impossible to tell without hearing anything, but I would recommend looking up how to do a factory reset, and also make sure you update the firmware after the factory reset (I mention updating the firmware in the video). If that doesn't work you'd either need to contact a service centre or return it for a new one. Good luck!

[@jonos138]

One thing I've heard moaned about is the e50 sits taller meaning your hands are higher on the keyboard. If you lower your stand to make it the height of say an fp60x or such like, its been said you cannot then get your knees under the unit. For anyone used to playing pianos at a certain height, this maybe off-putting to suddenly be stretching your hands at a different height. Having not tried this model myself I cannot personaly comment on how true this is. How did it feel to you? Did you notice the height difference?

[@PianoTone]

To be honest I didn't notice anything (didn't really look though . . . ). My usual keyboard is a Yamaha CK88 and I didn't feel any need to adjust the height of my stand for the review, but unless you have a cheaper stand with only a couple height adjustments available I don't see why it would be an issue. My old Yamaha P-125 was insanely thick at (if I remember) almost 6 inches and I did have to move any stand I used with it lower, but it never hit my knees . . . I guess it also depends what options your bench has for height (if your bench is a fixed height I could see that being an issue). Btw my stand (and bench) are from Liquid Stands, and their products are amazing; reviewed the stand here if you want to check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4XYp6SAaquKY5I Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@thomasyeomans1774]

I’ve noticed this as well. Pillows plus piano=normal?

[@diogoqueiroz4726]

Olá. Qual acha melhor: dgx 670 ou fpe50? Abraços do Brasil

[@PianoTone]

For portability and gigging the FP-E50, for home and recording I would lean to the DGX-670. Also depends what type of action you like; heavier go Roland, lighter and faster Yamaha. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe

[@diogoqueiroz4726]

@@PianoTone obrigado

[@muhtesemyuzil9233]

Hello I'm from german and I found this piano for 779€ did you think that I can catch it Cheaper than this price in christmas period because my budget is only 600 650€

[@PianoTone]

To be honest I'm not sure, just try Amazon, other online retailers as well as local retailers and look for specials. It is a new piano and pretty popular so it might be hard to find a discounted one. The new Yamaha P-225 (review coming soon) was just released it is awesome and might be closer to your price range. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@muhtesemyuzil9233]

@@PianoTone tysm already subscribed

[@theelusivememe1772]

Would the keys be too heavy to press for a 7 year old? My buddy is thinking about getting this as a gift for him? Idk if yamaha's p225 and p525 have the same key action, but would those be lighter than rolands fp e 50 and a better choice?

[@PianoTone]

Weighted keys will definitely be harder for a young person to play; but they will also strengthen their fingers so there's definitely 2 sides to that. The Yamaha (and Casio further still) piano key actions are definitely lighter to play than the Roland, maybe that is a good compromise? Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe

[@theelusivememe1772]

@@PianoTone thx for the input

[@williamlandry5652]

Hey I just bought this piano and in the span of just 1 week several keys have started making this clicking sound, after some research it seems to be some displacement of the lube under the keys doing this, I have already ordered a new piano to replace this one as this defect is unnacceptable for a 1400$ CAD keyboard but im starting to wonder if the new one will have the same issue since it seems to progressively get worse the more I play (more keys start making the clicking sound over time) I checked with my store and they have sold just under 300 but across all branches so couldnt tell me if they had a number of complaints about this or not and I also have to assume that some people probably just didnt notice or play enough yet to have the problem surface. It's a shame because after trying out several keyboards even some over 10 000$, the sounds on the FP-E50 are absolutely incredible and blow everything else out of the water I just really hope I got a dud and that the next piano I receive will be free of this defect.

[@PianoTone]

Yikes! I hope the replacement is fine! I didn’t buy it, just rented it so only had it for a couple weeks but had no issues.

[@jamesa375]

hi there.Ive been following your channel for some time now,im subscribed so dont worry about that!!,and i think youre doing agreat job.But id like to point out something you keep saying in all your posts which is not exactly correct.In fact its amyth perpetuating in the you tube video piano world and obviously you believed it because as you said many times you dont have much experience with acoustic pianos.Well,i learned the piano on the famous Yamaha U1 because thats what my teacher had.That infamous piano has a very light responsive action,which i think has to do a lot with itts enormous popularity especially with schools but also professionals.In fact when i was looking for adigital,i was trying to find something that resembles the action of the U1 and actually i couldnt find anything.You ll be surprised to know that IMHO the closest thing i found was the GHS,which in itself is hugely popular but generaly considered anewbie action and not a REALacoustic piano imitation.In fact the multi heralded Roland PHA-4 doesnt feel anything like the U1 its severely heavier as most other digitals.So,its a myth that the PHA-4 closely resembles acoustic pianos,it may resemble some GRand piano but several Grand pianos i played are less heavy than the PHA-4 let alone some other heavier actions.In fact i think digital piano manufacturers are trying to make heavy actions because they think people will believe they are more REAL compared to acoustic.The truth is acoustics VARY greatly,and uprights vary between themselves and also vary with Grands which in turn dont have the same actions either.So,this myth i believe is harmful to people who have no experience with acoustics and think they have to buy a heavy action to be more realistic.Thanks ,take care.

[@PianoTone]

Thanks so much for sharing all of that detailed info, that's super helpful and informative! It totally makes sense that all acoustic pianos are going to have actions that vary pretty wildly, especially uprights vs grands I imagine. It also makes sense a lighter Yamaha digital action might more closely replicate a lighter Yamaha acoustic. I also probably talk too much just about the weight of the PHA4 being what makes it "more realistic", so thanks for pointing that out (I think because the weight is what is most noticeable to me). The fact that the PHA4 is triple sensor vs. Yamaha's dual sensor is probably something I should be talking about more so than the weight, since it is definitely going to result in a "more realistic" action, simply because an extra sensor will pick up more detail in playing dynamics. As far as the "escapement" feature goes, I only notice that on a digital if I'm slowly pressing the key trying to "find" it (the notch sensation); at my level I would never notice it playing. Thanks again for supporting the channel and sharing all of this!

[@jamesa375]

@@PianoTone you are wellcome.Actually ,yesterday i had the chance to try out the PHA-4 once again at my local store ,next to the GHS they had a YDP145 next to some Rolands, and these were next to the Yamaha U acoustics,a U3 ,a U1 and the baby Grand GB 1.Actually the Roland seemed even worse this time i tried it out next to the acoustics,totaly unrealistic and out of place.The GHs was better but it is somewhat closer to the U1,not really close though, but neither have anything to do with the baby Grand that is a dream ,lighter in touch and beautiful response even compared to the uprights.Unfortunately i dont have the budget for it.When i went home i tried my Casio Pxs 1000 and i was super pleasantly surprised to see that it is still like i thought when i bought it, closer to the acoustics than either Roland or Yamaha.

[@mfurman]

I agree with that PHA-4 is heavier than the actions of most acoustic pianos. What is even worse is that some PHA-4 are heavier than the other (I had Roland digital piano with PHA-4 that needed 75g to move C4). I regularly play Yamaha C7 and its C4 key moves with 49g downweight. GHS and GHC are closer to acoustic piano actions in this respect. On the other hand, the feel of PHA-4 is closer to what the action of C7 represents. In addition the pivot length of PHA-4 is longer than GHS, let alone GHC) and it is easier to play. GHS is “mushy” and I do not really like it. Michael

[@chrishalle1982]

What? I bought the fp10 Last week for 379€ whats about 330 USD before Tax. Are you Sure its still 600 USD?

[@PianoTone]

Yes it's currently $600USD at major US retailers. Roland's prices are all over the map in different countries, it makes no sense; where I live the FP-30X is 25% MORE expensive than the Yamaha P-225, yet in the USA, the FP-30X is the same or cheaper than the Yamaha (and the P-225 blows away the FP-30X). Yamaha's prices seem much more consistent from country to country. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe

[@chrishalle1982]

@@PianoTone what should i say youtube blocks comments. look online for thomannmusic they send worldwide from germany there you get the roland fp10 for under 400 us dollars right now.

[@AbsitInvidea]

? is looking down (or up) and smiling. Some will get this and some won't. If you do, congratulations. You probably have grand kids.

[@PianoTone]

Thanks for checking out the channel

[@vicmartinez4532]

Excuse me I have the curiosity of knowing if you are the brother of the 8 biit guy because you have exactly the same facets facial features

[@PianoTone]

No I'm not related; we both have glasses though lol. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@vicmartinez4532]

@@PianoTone thanks so much for the help