Roland RD-2000 V-Piano Expansion 01 German Concert Performance by Yohan Kim

[@MacXpert74]

Sounds great! I think this sounds much more natural and like a real acoustic grand piano than the previous modelled piano sound in the RD-2000.

[@ny10980]

I certainly get tired of comparing this keyboard to that keyboard. Instead, here we have a pianist with great chops giving us how good this keyboard really sounds. Cause my RD 2000 sure doesn't sound this way when I play it. Thanks for keeping me encouraged.

[@dutu000]

if you wish, you could try the new extension..

[@jstyleent]

Yohan! Perfect piano player to represent your keyboard!

[@orlando4166]

Excelente, podría estar toda la tarde escuchando a este muchacho.

[@johnalafis1004]

Got this. Totally different instrument now. Stopped using VSTs...

[@markl1708]

Downloaded Roland Cloud manager then saw the $149 price tag, pressed Command+Q immediately

[@LeoK18]

Perfect.

[@MrAdamWojcik]

It would be ideal if Yohan played some longer phrases on the old Stage timbre and the same phrases on the new 01 German. This would allow you to assess the difference and motivate you to buy.

[@dutu000]

you could try it yourself... would you risk 30$?

[@arielpianoman7]

anyway there is a lot of difference from the old one to these new

[@dutu000]

@@arielpianoman7 yep

[@neoibanez]

Yohan Kim you're the best jazz player ever.

[@BenDavidTriggSongs]

Really want to like this update but currently finding the Roland Cloud page clear as MUD as to how I get this sound.

[@brandoncrenshaw]

Please do a V-Rhodes & V-Wurli

[@filipefonsecaoficial]

Why do we have to pay an update to finally have a very good piano sound on the RD 2000 on the best Roland's keyboard with the great mechanical action of the keys? When rival brands offer not one but 3 high-end sounds in updates!!! What loyalty policy does Roland have at this moment when I feel displeased being that I have been a musician for over 30 years being all of them with Roland too... Why do I have to go on stage and use VST's or take a digital piano from another brand to get the piano sound I want?

[@ablesam]

Physical models are more time consuming and expensive to develop than sampled pianos. All the brands you are talking about offer sampled pianos which are much easier to capture and develop, therefore the prices of those free expansions are paid by the sales of the various instruments they are made for. This case is different.

[@dmcreativedesign3236]

@@ablesam hey man that's fair enough, but I think the point here is that sample based libraries sounds good, while modeling sounds plastic, clickie, not that real.. So now that they have a good one to compete.. Should not be a paid one.. That's our point I think

[@ablesam]

​@@dmcreativedesign3236 Modelling does sound real (when tweaked of course, the presets on Roland's RD-2000 and FANTOM are just plain terrible), trust me I've tried it. I had the RD-2000 for 3-4 gigs (wasn't mine but one of the other keyboardist's in that gig) and spent a good 30 minutes (and more lol) on it tweaking the piano sound. I started out with three presets I really liked (East Coast, Symphony hall and Contemp Concerto) and edited it for a Pop, Ballad and classical setting. Took a lot of time and experimenting to get where I wanted. Got my result, amazing piano sound which I'd say was more impressive than some of the sampled sounds I ever used. Very expressive and lively. But it took more time than I would've wanted to get there. So I get your point regarding the presets which suck at emulating a good piano tone. Totally valid and a fair point my friend. But at the end of the day, Roland is a business, and their business model requires us to pay a price for the new additions to the keyboard we own. Not a lot of people want to accept that and believe Roland is a nice company towards keyboardists/all their product users. But that is not the truth. They will develop good products, for a price of course. The original physical model in the RD-2000 wasn't that great I'll agree, so charging $149 is an excessive amount imo. $79-99 is more of a fair price. So they are getting greedy here with this kind of pricing structure, which is my complaint. Other than that no issues.

[@Ajaykumarr89]

@@ablesam then what stage pianos sound better without any tweaking ? Nord or yamaha ?

[@ablesam]

@@Ajaykumarr89 Preferably Nord (due to their unbelievable samples but you can slightly tweak things such as resonace and damper noise for more realism) more than Yamaha. However, Yamaha with recent updates have come out with some good piano and electric piano sounds for their CP/YC series, so take a good look at that and choose.

[@_trismegistus]

So, was this recorded with default settings and no mastering? If not, you better share what tweaks were made, and what the mastering process was, because that would be false advertising if you don't!

[@Walter9801]

We need more comparison videos of the New German expansions with not only the old Roland VPianos, but other top brands like Nord.

[@dutu000]

better try it yourself, if you have a RD2000

[@rubn052]

no solo basta el rd2000 sino 170 usd extras , que desepcion roland, ya tengo este piano desde que se lanzo y es una tristeza no poder contar con esta actualizacion gratis si el rd costo 3000k en mi pais, realmente lamentable

[@wiggesobk]

That was awesome!

[@DojoOfCool]

Thanks Roland look forward to updating my RD-2000.

[@arielpianoman7]

Si ,Yep. Creo que esta ves ese piano si suena Natural de verdad con las imperfecciones del piano acústico. Bravo Roland!!! hace tiempo esperaba este updated patch porque el RD 800 me sonaba mucho mejor y más natural en vivo que el 2000, pero ahora sí dieron en el punto exacto!!!!! AHORA SI DAN GANAS DE COMPRAR EL RD 2000!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩😋😋😋

[@mattf.3124]

Wonderful......

[@michaelmckenna9022]

My RD2000 sounds great with headphones. When I connect it to the Roland amp it sounds cheap. Am I missing something?

[@MstarNurien]

so great!

[@jeongragjeon]

영상 잘 보고 있습니다 간혹 특정 건반을 약하게 눌러도 벨로시티 무시하고 크게 소리가 나는 경우가 있는데 초기화 시켜봐도 그러네요 해결 방법이 없을까요? 제경우는 C5음색이 한번씩 자동차 급발진처럼 크게 소리가 난답니다

[@karimsousse5500]

Great Sound 😀 please Roland make an Alpha Juno boutique 😀 just one more ... I have TB03 and SH01A ... Come on 👍 thank you 🖐️

[@blackmambafan24]

Is this available for the Fantom 08?

[@ablesam]

No. Not enough compute power to run V.Piano and another engine properly.

[@cosmoscorporation]

wow

[@hayjaybeejay]

Pls how can I get the ROLAND PM-200 CONTROL PANEL

[@abdielvelazquez773]

The original V-Pianos on the RD2000 really suck. This one does not. Roland should give us this to repalace for free. Yamaha gave us 5 great ac pianos for the CP88 for free on the lastest updates.

[@ablesam]

Physical models are more time consuming and expensive to develop than sampled pianos. Yamaha, Nord and Korg offer sampled pianos (with fixed sample sets and settings) which are much easier to capture and develop, therefore the prices of those free expansions are paid by the sales of the various instruments they are made for. This case is different.

[@Хотятлирусскиевойны-н2г]

Что такое джаз? Это когда берут известную мелодию и начинают её корёжить? Или (и) при этом лепить одновременно ещё туда парочку? Или это когда пишут свою оригинальную, но по законам джаза? В основном слышу первое.

[@WildWinslow]

Is he playing an improv?!

[@slowcatto]

While $149 sounds a lot - in the UK it's even more - £162.73 at the checkout...! The RD-2000 is a great keyboard in most respects, but the sounds are nothing to write home about. To make up for that, I already have access to some great pianos through various sampled VST/AU plugins and modelled pianos from Pianoteq. Of course it would be great if Roland has finally included a built-in piano that can hold up against the competition... but that really should have been part of the update. Before forking out this considerable sum, I'd like to know if I can get a refund if it's not up to expectations. Can't find T&C anywhere in the buying process and I won't buy at this price if it's no better than what's already in the machine. Sadly, although Yohan Kim's performance is great, and it all sounds lovely - there's no comparison with existing sounds, no explanation of what's been added in production (or not)... just not enough to go on. One other thing - while it was a nice surprise to find there was an update available, what exactly is in the update other than the opportunity to part with some cash? Can't find anything about bugs that have been fixed, features that have been added, etc. Anyone know?

[@slowcatto]

Ok, so this is my new favourite (internal) piano for the RD-2000. Warmer and less electronic sounding than the stock pianos, and a fair selection of useable variations. UK users should buy direct from the US (Sweetwater sells it, for example, then you just add the activation code in Roland Cloud Manager)... works out around £125. Still surprised at the dearth of reviews on youtube and elsewhere.

[@ablesam]

@@slowcatto Wow, I didn't know you could buy the piano expansion from Sweetwater and save around £40. Thanks for the tip! And yes, there has only been Anthony Maplethrone's review on KZbin. I believe this is because it is a paid expansion and not a free one.

[@think2go]

Not sure about the rd2000 or the Kurzweil k2700? Any thoughts?

[@jamessantos1102]

Rd2000❤

[@park171]

❤ sounds Amazing

[@phsycopiano]

My question is how do I update it?

[@qazwert007]

Go to the Roland support website for the RD2000 and download the 2.0 firmware file and then follow this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJyakHuvm9FnpsU I upgraded today and it worked fine. The firmware is free but if you want the V Piano expansion, it's $149. Hope this helps!

[@Ultimate_Wasabi]

Kind of hard to use this demo as an example of what the actual expansion sounds like considering it is being routed through that mixing desk in the background and who knows what else that is adding color. Then add KZbin compression, etc.

[@ChrisP3000x]

All keyboard demos are typically run through a mixer of some sort, and "who knows what else". And ultimately you don't know if you are even hearing the actual product.

[@Ultimate_Wasabi]

@@ChrisP3000x I understand what you're saying. What I meant is that the stuff you have there definitely makes it sound the best it possibly can be.

[@dutu000]

theoretically speaking... would you guys risk 30$ to try it?

[@Ultimate_Wasabi]

@@dutu000 Personally no. I was here looking into the general features (hoping for a new RD to come out). I use VSTs, so the local sounds aren't of a major consideration.

[@ChrisP3000x]

@@dutu000 It's $150. And no.

[@jordanabel1955]

Yohan Kim faz chover em teclado de neném tbm kkkkk

[@dougmarkham]

Wonder what this is a model of? Is it a Berlin Steinway, an update of the Bosendorfer, a C. Bechstein?? I think there is a question of whether this a really good piano model... 1) Yohan is a great player---any keyboard he plays on will sound great.. 2) We have no comparison against the market leader in modelled piano (Pianoteq) 3) No side by side against some of the newest sampled pianos: Kurzweil Bristol piano, Casio Berlin Steinway etc. Nor do we have a comparison against the Kawai MP11SE. When the initial videos if the RD2000 came out, the piano sounded good in such official demos. Only in store was it obvious the sound wasn't competitive. Be good if Yohan can release a direct comparison between the RD2000 older models and this new one?

[@dynoroad]

99% sure it's a Hamburg Steinway. It's the most readily available and the most iconic german/american piano. Also, this expansion for the RD2000 really has that characteristic Steinway midrange which is woody, barky and warm at the same time. Listen to the examples on Roland's Soundcloud and you'll hear it even better than what's shown on this demo.

[@gtykm2834]

円安前なら即買いだけど、今は悩む．

[@kylekemp4776]

Free…Free…Free. I want everything for Free. How can anyone expect a company to produce superior products at no cost to the customer. I would love it if Nissan gave me a free update to my car’s engine with 80k miles.

[@Хотятлирусскиевойны-н2г]

Можно просить этого, только в том случае, если и вы делаете им что-то бесплатно. Общество, когда всё бесплатно - это коммунизм, но 🤔 тогда и все в этом обществе работают бесплатно - деньги становятся не нужны...

[@markaprill6501]

I agree I don’t own this keyboard.. but it should be a free update. I don’t understand the logic here. This is a pricey keyboard and 150 bucks is nothing to me but just on principle this sucks. The truth is just buy a kawaii controller and keyscape, pianteq, ravenscroft. These hardware pianos are a massive rip that become outdated. Roland is outing itself…..150 bucks buys you better sound than there flagship piano.. Roland taught me that. lol. I am going to skip this rip off and buy the best midi controller and save 5000 bucks by nit buying this or a nord grand that will just be replaced by house software.

[@reacionario2026]

Now the Rd2000 can be compared to the Rd800 which has much better pianos

[@greenbunny13]

All of the pianos in the rd800 are in the rd2000. In fact, all of the sounds of the 800 are in the rd2000.

[@reacionario2026]

@@greenbunny13 it's a different engine. RD800 has the RD700NX paino and VPiano but running into Supernatural. RD2000 runs into a new VPiano version and sounds very synthetic and processed. Other sounds in RD2000 also runs in another new engine more flexible and sounds good. But RD2000 pianos sucks and sounds as terrible as Nord. Sounds like plastic.

[@greenbunny13]

@@reacionario2026 if you print the sound list from the rd800 you'll see, by comparing it to the sound list of the rd2000, that every single sound of the 800 is included in the 2000. The 2000 has the vpiano sound engine but it also has the older supernatural sound engine, just like the 800.

[@reacionario2026]

@@greenbunny13 I've tested both before buying an RD800 and RD2000 pianos sucks. For some reason Rd2000 is great for synth but it sucks for piano. It just sucks. RD800 main piano (vpiano on supernatural) and the old RD700NX are gorgeous. If you don't care much about piano sounds the RD2000 is a more modern and powerful machine. But they sound different. Forget the list of sounds. RD2000 acoustic piano sucks. An RD300 is much better.

[@albiber]

why does such a synth have a extremely cheap exterior design like 300$ VA-keybords? roland, have you ever seen your rd1000?

[@paultumelty]

Are you kidding? It's almost solid metal. it weighs a ton!

[@albiber]

@@paultumelty i said design, not material

[@Хотятлирусскиевойны-н2г]

​@@albiber Попробуйте металл повыгибать)). Когда сделаете - оцените свою работу на продажу.