Roland TD27 Version 2.0 Update ALL Sounds Demo

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Jared Chontos

Jared Chontos

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@kentadamson6992
@kentadamson6992 Жыл бұрын
it amazes me how many people don't like the sounds on these kits. Don't get me wrong, they are not perfect. However, the sounds are good enough that I can play along to pretty much anything and it sounds decent.
@robertbaron3242
@robertbaron3242 Жыл бұрын
I agree and I'm amazed at the sounds of the TD27 on the VAD-507 kit which can be as realistic as you want them to be. Take any acoustic set and place it in a variety of environments and it will go from great sounding to crap depending on the room. That's the beauty of edrums, you can make them sound however you want regardless of room acoustics.
@Ozterkvlt
@Ozterkvlt 11 ай бұрын
these sound so much closer to real drums than rolands other kits, if all kits on their modules sounded like this, i think less people would complain
@LDdrums20
@LDdrums20 8 ай бұрын
Most folks don't configure the trigger settings adequately. By default sensitivity settings are quite low so you have to hit very hard to get this sound. Every one has their own dynamics so it's key to adjust that to make them sound good.
@ex0148
@ex0148 7 ай бұрын
If you hear this kit played through Superior Drummer 3 the difference is night and day, the ONLY reason I have a TD27 is for the digital snare, Ride, Hi-Hat and if I could get positional sensing without it I wouldn't have got the TD27 at all it's not garbage it's just bad sounds.
@LDdrums20
@LDdrums20 7 ай бұрын
@@ex0148 agreed. I thought before buying it that I would be able to edit the hell out of it and get good sounds but no. Really vsts sound better
@Paulo_5002_
@Paulo_5002_ Жыл бұрын
I liked the sounds of the new update. Sounds very good and your drum set is amazing.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man! That is very kind of you!
@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596
@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596 11 ай бұрын
You are an incredible drummer, Jared.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you very much. 🙏🏻
@KutayYavuzMusic
@KutayYavuzMusic Жыл бұрын
Great kit sounds and expressive playing! Thanks for the demo!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@westcoastdrummer
@westcoastdrummer 3 ай бұрын
Great showing of the kits….thanks
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@markjohnson1020
@markjohnson1020 Жыл бұрын
I think these kits sound fantastic. Like they’re already “mastered”. Thanks for the concise overview of all the kits.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey Mark! Thanks so much for checking out the video. I do think that Roland’s sounds continue to improve with each software update. There are certainly a few kits that caught my ear!
@goldiluckx
@goldiluckx Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons which kits do you like the best? i like #27 tight funk
@flanger001
@flanger001 Жыл бұрын
Great video (and jacket) Jared! I haven't installed this update on my kit yet, but I was really glad to get to hear the new sounds. Thanks for this!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
No problem man! Hahaha. Thanks for checking out the video!
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 8 ай бұрын
Everything sounds great, but the toms sound the same on every kit.
@flanger001
@flanger001 Жыл бұрын
4:26 someone was listening to In Bloom!
@lajeanette33
@lajeanette33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this in such details
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!!
@blakegowan6623
@blakegowan6623 7 ай бұрын
These sounds are worlds better than my TD 15. I'm hoping to get a TD 27 kit ASAP!
@jasonhubbard7409
@jasonhubbard7409 10 ай бұрын
Amazing sounding module but even more amazing drumming.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man!!!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Great job, Jared!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks Luke. Golly these videos are a ton of work. Hahaha. 😂
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons Haha they are indeed! Nailed it, though!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I knew before I started “this is gonna be a lot of cuts in editing,” but then it just kept taking longer and longer and longer. Hahaha.
@dismentei
@dismentei 7 ай бұрын
Good job, man, bravo. 👍🏻
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv 10 ай бұрын
I've mastered the TD 25 I've had for 6 years. It has a couple decent kits. Out of all the sounds on there.. there's not a lot. I really need to buy this module as an upgrade for my kit.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 10 ай бұрын
Gotcha man!
@sw1ne2001
@sw1ne2001 Жыл бұрын
worth a like and comment for the effort alone.. Cheers.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks so much. Hahaha. It did take a lot of effort!
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 Жыл бұрын
Nice drumming!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@oddittydotco
@oddittydotco Жыл бұрын
Sounds great, going to update mine now 😅 🥁!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thank you!
@mattryan6886
@mattryan6886 Жыл бұрын
Your Roland 503 with extra floor Tom is also my exact dream drum kit!!!!! The 1 up 2 down with 16” crash and 18” ride looks freaking amazing add an spd-sx pro and you can play just about anything
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks so so much man!!
@mattryan6886
@mattryan6886 Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons thank you for demo of all the new kits. I absolutely love the update for td-17. Roland fantastic job with the new kits and the new EFX in update are great !!!!! I also have a Yamaha DTX6 kit. The dtx pro module sounds are fantastic. I especially love the 3 zone snare pads. The TCS snare pads feel fantastic. Very responsive and great rebound. My ghost notes have never sounded so good. My half time shuffle sounds killer.
@tx2jbh81
@tx2jbh81 Жыл бұрын
What’s an spd-sx pro? I’m still trying to figure out if the TD27 will support the one over two tom configuration as well as ride, snare, HH, and two crashes. Can’t seem to get a straight answer 🤷🏻‍♂️ I figured out what the spd-sx pro is… 👊🏽
@jamiejordan3701
@jamiejordan3701 Жыл бұрын
@@tx2jbh81 the TD27 comes with a loom that supports the 3 toms and a single crash, there is also a output at the back for a second crash and the ride/snare are digital (usb) on this kit
@PeterGaard
@PeterGaard 6 ай бұрын
Did you change any settings or effects on the kits before recording this? They seem to sound punchier than what I hear on my td27
@boydagust9179
@boydagust9179 Жыл бұрын
hey jared. would you let me know which of the kits do you think have improved overall? cheers
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Sure. Honestly, I didn’t play very many of the old kits before the update. I mainly played third party drum sets that I installed to the module. However, I will tell you some of my favorites on this new update! I really like: the Deep Studio Kit (1), the Speed Metal kit (9) and the British Rock kit (28??). All the Jazz Session (4) kit is really nice!
@laptoples
@laptoples 11 ай бұрын
I guarantee all the people who say that the sounds are terrible, wouldn't be able to tell the difference between acoustic or electric in a lineup...lol That's with or without a band playing behind them. Not if you got the levels right, through a decent sound system. Live or otherwise, the sounds in this kit are amazing, and the kit plays/feels better then any ekit to this day minus the TD-50. There's so much to tweek and too much you can do to every sound in this module. You can spend hours on just one snare, tom or cymbal and get it to sound any way you want. Try bringing an acoustic kit to play house music or techno style stuff, or, especially a gig where you need to watch your volume level or you loose the gig if the drums are too loud. Plus you fold them up, stick them in a bag with wheels and it only takes up 1/8th the room of a acoustic set in the car, van or whatever yer riding in. Quicker to set up, and always in tune...lol With that said, of course you can't get all the rim shot variety of sounds and every facet off every ping on the high hats, cymbals... Etc... but hey... This new digital stuff is getting very close !!! There's definitely a place for both, and that's the spice of life !!!! And it's only gonna get better and better !!! Personally, I'd rather be able to play at home and not bug anyone, then never able to play because I bother everyone... Hahahahahahaha And by the way, that was super impressive drumming on every setting !!! That was great !!! Thanks for the video !!!!!! :-)
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 11 ай бұрын
Hey man! Great thoughts. I tend to agree that when you hear isolated drums it’s not a completely fair assessment. Drums that sound good IN THE MIX sometimes sound whacky on their own. Yeah. I’ve been forced to go the electric route to control volume. Honestly, I have been very pleased with it and haven’t looked back! Thank you for the compliments about my drumming. Very kind of you! 🙏🏻
@IansDrumsandBass
@IansDrumsandBass 6 ай бұрын
I would! - Acoustics sound like tin cans in comparison to this. This is studio quality - in stereo. 😊
@drumminganddreamingbyjavij7342
@drumminganddreamingbyjavij7342 Жыл бұрын
Can you bring us the step by step tutorial to download this upgrade ??
@dirtremovesblindness
@dirtremovesblindness 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Where did you get those wing nuts for the cymbals? I've seen this on a few videos but can't find them anywhere. Thanks!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 10 ай бұрын
Hey! Thank you. I’m not sure exactly what you mean by the wing nuts. These were included with the Roland drum set when I bought it.
@paullessard1234
@paullessard1234 Жыл бұрын
I need a step-by-step tutorial on how to download in install the new upgrade 2.0? I have TD27KVX.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 Жыл бұрын
It may not be perfect, but let’s see one acoustic set do all that.
@Truth1nNature
@Truth1nNature 5 ай бұрын
How tight do you keep your snare pad? I am wondering if something is wrong with mine. Just got it and I get positional sensing from outer edges to the center but yours sounds more dynamic between light and harder hits.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 5 ай бұрын
Hey there! Great question. Honestly, my snare is not super tight. I’d say it’s approximately the tension of a medium / medium-low tuning on an acoustic snare.
@tomaszandrzejewski816
@tomaszandrzejewski816 Жыл бұрын
My td11 sonunds similar, for me every Roland module ,since td11 having very similar stock sounds
@therossfamilyinuk
@therossfamilyinuk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Having just loaded the Version 2.0 update, on 03 Standard and 07 Vivid Reso, loops start playing when I hit the kick pad. Is anyone else getting this? Any suggestions on what might be causing this? I'm sure they're not meant to be there!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Woah! That is super interesting! I’ve not heard any loops on those kits!
@therossfamilyinuk
@therossfamilyinuk Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons they're definitely not meant to be there! I've sort of figured out what's happened, but I don't know why. After I did the factory reset, and then reinstalled my back up (which included several custom kits) I realised that my backup reinstall had overwritten all the new Version 2.0 kits... so I did another factory reset, and when I started going through all the new kits, I noticed the loops on some of the kits and thought it seemed strange. So this morning I've done another factory reset, but this time ticked the "Reset with User Sample" box, and everything seems back to as it should be. It seems that somehow all the samples in my custom kits had got randomly integrated into the new Version 2.0 kits when I reinstalled my backup. I don't know why!
@junrenyeo5027
@junrenyeo5027 Жыл бұрын
What selection do you select in your td27 version 2.0 sound module
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I’m not sure I understand the question. In this video, I am demonstrating all of the sound options that come with the version 2.0 update. Are you asking Which drum set is my personal favorite?
@SL_LUCKY_DRUMMER-
@SL_LUCKY_DRUMMER- Жыл бұрын
tr 707 ? why not...?
@fartpooboxohyeah8611
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to decide between the TD-27, The Alesis Strike (SE) and the EFnote 3X for the better part of the last years (I've had a TD-17 for the past three years). I fell like I've watched just about every review and video concerning these three kits/modules in that time. I finally settled on the Alesis Strike Pro SE as the sounds in the TD-27 sound very similar to those in the TD-17, which is to say "ok" sounding. I can pick out Roland drum sounds with my eyes closed, there is just something about them, they never quite sound real to me. I love the module sounds in the Alesis Strike, IMO they are just more realistic and inspiring. On the other hand the build quality of the Alesis kit is not up to the standards of Roland, not bad, just not at that level. As for triggering, I don't notice any difference between the TD-17 and Alesis Strike. This was a great video, thanks.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man! Yeah, the Alesis strike is great too. It’s really awesome how many pads and cymbals come included. Thanks for checking out the video!
@robertbaron3242
@robertbaron3242 Жыл бұрын
I just traded in my Alesis Command X to Guitar Center for a Roland VAD-507. I had the Alesis for 1-1/2 years and though I enjoyed playing on it I had problems with cymbal pad durability. I'm 70 so not a heavy hitter by any stretch but the hi-hat pad trigger failed and the rubber was peeling on the two crash pads after only one year of light playing. I maybe averaged 2 to 3 hours per week in that year so IMO not a lot of usage. Alesis did send me 3 new pads under warranty which was great but I lost confidence in the durability. I don't know how different the Strike pads are from a construction standpoint but my concern is they might be similar and just larger.
@dr1danny
@dr1danny Жыл бұрын
So I did the update to 2.0 did not backup anything. Just wanted to start fresh. Now my triggers and outputs are all over the place. Drum kits sounds like like garbage metal every time I hit any drum. Any suggestions on that ?
@nonyabusiness6084
@nonyabusiness6084 11 ай бұрын
Try a factory reset.
@r.heinrich3364
@r.heinrich3364 8 ай бұрын
Great demo and fantastic playing. Still very recognizable Roland (unnatural) sounding kits. Getting better, but still far from the likes of Efnote or Pearl. The open hi-hat sounds are terrible, in my opinion. I'd still buy Roland e-drums for the build quality and not the samples - which is sad considering the asking prices. I would rather just sit and play the drums without having to use VSTs.
@IansDrumsandBass
@IansDrumsandBass 6 ай бұрын
These sounds are 100 x better than my TD11KV - their isn't one decent set of toms - unless you like the sound of acoustic drums with all the over - ring they bring. This has some great dry kits.
@junrenyeo5027
@junrenyeo5027 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jared I have the vad506 Roland drum kit and I saw that you have a extra floor tom can you share with me what is the sound of the extra floor tom
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Sure thing. Yes. I have the extra floor Tom assigned to the “AUX3” input in the TD27 module. On most of the drum sets, “AUX3” is used as a second floor Tom.
@junrenyeo5027
@junrenyeo5027 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Jared thank you for replying but may I know in the td27 module do you update to the version 2.0 and which type floor tom sound do you assign it to?
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey! Ok, here’s the answer: after updating the module, I simply plug the extra floor tom into the AUX3 input. I do not change anything else (except select the correct pad type for the floor tom). I have not assigned any sounds at all to the floor tom. They are just the stock settings!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
However, I can look later today and see exactly what instrument is assigned to AUX3. I imagine it’s just a floor tom sample that’s been tuned very low.
@junrenyeo5027
@junrenyeo5027 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Jared could you help me to check which type of pad is suitable as a second floor tom as well as the tuning like how am I suppose to do the tuning for all the pads as well as the second floor tom
@jozekzwolak2258
@jozekzwolak2258 5 ай бұрын
Can anyone give me professional advice on what I need to do or buy to make my Roland TD27kv2 (at home) sound professional and rich. I already had the PM200 and PM100 monitors recommended by Roland, I currently have a Yamaha BRD 12 (active speakers) and my drums still sound very "dry" - like I'm playing on cardboard boxes. What should I do with that? With kind regards.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 5 ай бұрын
Hi there! Thanks so much for commenting on the video. Here’s my suggestion: I HIGHLY recommend you check out “The E Drum Workshop.” He makes custom drum kits you can download into your TD27 module. They sound fantastic. I use them almost exclusively.
@jozekzwolak2258
@jozekzwolak2258 4 ай бұрын
hello and thank you for the answer, but that's not what I meant (I don't need Drumer 3) I'm looking for SOUND EQUIPMENT - the most suitable for this type of Td 27 kv 2 drums. Can anyone give me some advice professional advice?
@matthewmac4436
@matthewmac4436 4 ай бұрын
Can I load a kit I created on my td17 onto my td27? Both brains are the newest versions of themselves.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 4 ай бұрын
Hey! I do not believe so.
@masonking215
@masonking215 Жыл бұрын
Are the floor toms both 14x14?
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Yes they are! 👍🏻
@joejoecreampuff1912
@joejoecreampuff1912 6 ай бұрын
How much better are they then version 1 kits?
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 6 ай бұрын
There are some slight improvements to the sounds. The BIG difference is there are WAY more pre-made drum kits in this version compared to the first version.
@jasonhubbard7409
@jasonhubbard7409 10 ай бұрын
I truly do not understand or agree with all the hate Roland gets over the sound of this module. In my opinion, I'm not looking for a non-studio sounding kit like you get with Efnote. Sure, that style of sound is amazing when practicing by yourself, where you want to recreate an un-produced acoustic kit as accurately as possible, but the Efnote sound is NOT amazing when playing in a band through a PA where you want everyone to sound perfectly mixed as though you were in a recording studio. Under that circumstance, I absolutely love the Roland sounds. They cut through the mix better and don't get lost in the mix ever. I'm a producer, guitarist, pianist, and drummer, and I literally love the sound of Roland toms and cymbals over other brands, and within the Roland brand, I specifically prefer the snares and kicks on the TD-27 over the TD-17. (and I only enjoy about 2 of the snare choices on the TD-25) So it really confuses me how frequently people trash talk the Roland sounds on the TD-27 when it's legitimately my favorite out of all their modules. It's most of the quality from their TD-50 without the higher price. Isn't it interesting how one person can deem these sounds "trash" while another one thinks they're pretty great?
@GroschiLP
@GroschiLP 11 ай бұрын
Can the sounds compete against Efnote?
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 11 ай бұрын
Good question! I think with the proper adjustments, the Roland sounds are awesome! Definitely takes some work and shaping, but it can be done. And the Roland triggering is superior!
@Piloute561
@Piloute561 Жыл бұрын
Roland always produce Roland sounds... but no drum sound....we can recognize them from hundred kms.... !!! Happy to be a PMP owner!!!!
@marco_prolo
@marco_prolo Жыл бұрын
I owned a PMP and several Rolands before (atm: TD27 with all the 3 digital pads) and find that the PMP sounds WAY better. But the Roland plays better IMO. Since the TD27 sounds are so terrible, I ended up triggering Superior Drummer. Great feel and sound.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Yeah! It’s tricky! I go with Roland because of their dependability and triggering. I like to use third party sounds by Drum Tec or the EDrumWorkshop.
@tx2jbh81
@tx2jbh81 Жыл бұрын
HOLD THE PHONE!!!! With this Gen 2 can I have TWO FLOOR TOMS?!!
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Yes sir!!! Actually not just this gen but the one before. The floor Tom 2 is actually “AUX 3” input. It’s awesome!!
@tx2jbh81
@tx2jbh81 Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons Is another crash cymbal input? My ideal is snare, kick, HH, ride, tom-tom and 2 floor toms and 2 crashes. Is this ALL possible w/ the TD27?!! PLEASE say YES 🙌🏼
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Yes man! This is all possible on the TD27. 👍🏻
@Wazza722
@Wazza722 8 ай бұрын
They still sound wet and thin!
@johnburkhalter3880
@johnburkhalter3880 Жыл бұрын
The Roland toms always sound terrible to me. Some of the kick and snare could be usable. The cymbals aren't the best but they aren't the worst either.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey man! I don’t disagree with you!! However, I will say, I have been surprised at how good some of these Roland sounds mesh with songs. In a mix with other instruments, the sounds fit pretty well.
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media Жыл бұрын
This doesn't sound right. Everything as whole is way too loud, you sound like you are in a can and your stereo image might as well be nonexistent.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. Gotcha man! Maybe it has to do with the way things are coming through over KZbin, but there definitely is stereo panning!
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons It's there but it's only about 30-50% as wide as it should be. Listen to this guy playing a TD-07. I know they aren't panned that way but your ride and far toms are like almost dead center in your recorded audio. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYDCkHlmeJmcb5Y
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. It could be that I haven’t panned the stereo inputs correctly in logic when I record it. Are they supposed to be hard right and left?
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media Жыл бұрын
I see you played the same song and that video has the same issue
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons Yes. How are you sending the audio output to your DAW -- USB, headphones or direct outs? If not USB, describe your intermediate interface connections.
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 Жыл бұрын
The snare sounds like a gun or a pistol. The toms are artificial. Oh God we are in 2023
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Hey man! I totally get what you’re saying, and in general I agree with you. However, you’d be surprised how great some of these kits sound with music. Some of the newest kits in this update really sound nice in the context of a song. But! You’re not wrong. 95% of the time I use third-party drum kits by either Drum Tec or the EDrumWorkshop.
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons that is true, playing with music it blends good…very curious
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 Жыл бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons I know, all your videos sound amazing man
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Ludo_A
@Ludo_A 5 ай бұрын
@@ChontosDrumLessons Do the EDrumWorkshop or Drum Tec (I have both) trigger correctly a second floor tom (on aux3)?
@j.haywire5841
@j.haywire5841 18 күн бұрын
Jared, are this the updated version of the TD 27 without any tweaking? Just bought the 27 but having a hard time getting good cymbal sounds.
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 18 күн бұрын
Right! This is the TD27 stock version 2.0 update. No tweaks!
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