Role of Emotion in the Mind (Joscha Bach) | AI Podcast Clips

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[@codaboi138]

Lex's favourite movie is the lego movie confirmed.

[@thadfreebourn5138]

Hr might watch Of Mice and Men, or read it, any Steinbeck...so American

[@johnalley8397]

Lex, Thanks for introducing me to this guy. I am on my third time through the full interview. This guy is a top shelf intellect. I loved your pushback at one point, you asserted that social media might be an amazingly important - as yet unappreciated - advancement of science/ society. Really interesting point.

[@checkscache2701]

smart man

[@ghifchjg1227]

My opinion is that being social is beneficial. Social media is being used to condition those that use it.

[@madisondampier3389]

@@ghifchjg1227 As those with an inflated sense of self-importance will want to do, if something can be manipulated they'll get their hands all over it for personal gain.

[@TheHellogs4444]

This guy's joy is so fucking infectious, it's so genuine, and you really buy into the stories he's telling. He can be a professor and talk for days on end

[@SebastiandAnconia]

The fact that someone can sounds this smart, and even upon second listening I had to do double takes, his dancing perfectly between what I've learned about machine learning and what I've learned from eastern religions regarding human experience.... Then he finishes with, go for love and follow your heart That really says something, ps: Lex the reason people also will look at your reaction is that by subscribing to you, they've given you credit in knowing something and so when someone's speaking on your show, they'll look at your reaction, because you're their stand in for connecting with these new ideas

[@LindsleyDbrt]

Long life to you, Josha.

[@danielmartin2771]

I love these two men, and appreciate the part about following your heart. Sacrificing yourself for the relationship is love. So true. So true.❤

[@christianchance5958]

I'm an American and I feel that the expectation of positive affect is exhausting.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Often time the expectation of the positive is fantasy or wish fulfillment. It's often better to have no expectations; just be open to whatever occurs...maybe nothing will happen.

[@alexandermullens7758]

Yeah its always been something thats bothered me about being american.

[@EugeniaSergeeva]

Expectations of negative are exhausting too. I agree that neutral is the best. Accepting the unknown is hard for humans, I guess, so they make themselves prepared for a negative or positive outcome depending on cultural habit.

[@gordknox5048]

So many insights packed into 11 minutes. Nice work guys!

[@alexeynaidenov4697]

Thats incredible - getting down to the bottom of cultural foundation in a minute... freaking amazing

[@dylaancannon6498]

"have you seen this...." "lego movie?"

[@peterebel]

I cannot stop listening to this conversation. But am I actually learning something here? Or am I just entertained?

[@yashvardhansharma3899]

Damn, i can feel you

[@Wingedmagician]

The latter. Unless you take notes and study the video. Then do your research based on the video. Then take notes and study again. NOT FUN!!!

[@pietervoogt]

I think if it is not about specific content, you may at least learn to be comfortable with a courageous, free and amoral way of thinking and that after that you can safely return to being a sane and moral person.

[@somnathbanerjee2057]

Emotion comes from the mind. For feelings, you have 5 sensory organs to sense it. If you segregate intelligence...there are 3 different types: Intelligent Quotient (20%), Emotional Intelligence (80%), Spiritual Intelligence (beyond 3dimensions). In classical art, we represent it as rasa-bhava: rasa means an aesthetic form of intellect, to become. Bhava means a state of mind. Here I am interpreting nine main rasa: love, laughter, fury, compassion, disgust, horror, heroism, wonder and peace. This called nava-rasa. Emotions are everything to understand and connect the subjective and objective universes. In Hinduism, we worship this state of the art as "nava-durga"-- nine forms. We are performers in the state of consciousness or in the ocean of bliss. The more you know about 64arts, the more you aware about your performance and control over mind and your senses. From a different perspective, think about the "the girl before the mirror" painting of Pablo Picasso. Decoding Picasso, you would understand how much deviate from the original creative state of intelligence. What you see is the beauty of the self. What you feel is the awareness of yourself about the absolute self. Being human is the purpose of human life. #Being #Jupiter #truth #oneness #adore

[@moarization]

Tldr version edit:(I'm not sure doing phoneme survey related to historic fact the testimony of the apostle of Jesus, and the tetragrammatical surveies related to tawheed (which I often condense to Tap Heed) which is to state the Article related to the Tetragrammaton structure in the name of God YhWh which dimensionally resounds with Wasee or the encompassing reality of God. Tao heed the balance and limitation of man illustrated by holy scripture and specifically related to the Great names of The God(or in as to say the God is to signal the inert state of the word itself. Rasa Bhava may illude to many things, I have to research it and how it was used here further but the mention of tension with Rasa in the form of asthetics while bhave seems b)with-h)representation a)objective v/f)imperative-a)objective, have to research a link but it's eastern but resonanting with the phrase beauty is Truth, as manifesto of creature or political imperative as oppose to hosting God given state;I have not complete meditation reference 'love for deprivation' to my satisfaction, and recognition as mentioned excercise, the lotus the flower. 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Global effects, sectarianism secularism fundementally an aspect of precision and said example of the word segregate as oppose to a skill of compartmentalization. Thus such quantum phenomena has counter part emotional reflection. Thus signal of the doers of Good verse lie with fundemental units producing chaos contrived and addressed and refuted crucifiction of Jesus. As many Planck principle based political assertions, used here in a ciphering sense that is it's definition pertaining to wholistic affairs, even again as religion has been made doctrine is the truth of the regarded tradition of killing messengers and prophet by bani Israel as a consistency that the reality of illustrates the children of Israel scribes and scholars of destiny that The drowning of pharoh is more akin to a servant ringing a king's finger, or point blanket making a auto biography in representation of a prophet as even physical concerns between spouses are riddled with jabs at the negation of sentient resonance, and thus the divide and cultural trojans in gold ornaments, the fish tank look at the human conditions is a temporal paradox that is the threat of ai. That the most decorated works of art is the obiturary and the dieing will as in devinci's long processes and definite solider and tear is too it being before a open beauty, and so practical ai. Smart ink, God knows best, there are angles I don't see. But what struck from the prose of your delivery as well as singles you out was putting forth segregated intelligence concept and a roundness to your body that I can not say isn't numerical magically configured socialogical seamlessness to the cipher pertaining to material address. But the unit quite frankly is to big and it is worded yours, thus the word compartamentalization or to translate a road as oppose to maze, a mission as oppose to Aaron. So it is clear that I don't have your address for guarded recon and this is a prayer, between us and as the ship was plain to see to the people of Noah. Rasa Tension astethics, the audacity of the assertion beauty is Truth balanced with bhava. A definite imperative. Thanks for sharing, lots of "machines" 9_9 to 6_6 deworm. good hunting

[@thadfreebourn5138]

Laughter our greatest healing modality...remember? To laugh at my self is all I can offer, I Am after all

[@djmissy1097]

Don’t think.... Feel Bruce Lee ❤️

[@jakw97]

This guy is too smart for life, that's my conclusion

[@Koryogden]

Holy fuck Joscha is SMART

[@ALYOUTUBERZ]

lex you look very solid to me at all times

[@yashvardhansharma3899]

Joscha bach, you god

[@eoeo92i2b2bx]

I am Polish, and I remember as a child when you laughed uncontrollably some adult would tell you that “ soon you will cry with a sheep’s voice” 🤨 There is a truth to that but also it is so negative and that’s how you train another generation of Polish melancholics. Our national poets typically “ suffered for the millions”( of people) 😜

[@mrboobiesrider9212]

How can he answers every possible question you ask as if he reflected on the subject recently every fucking time

[@theorderlyman8042]

Means his model of the world explains more of reality

[@mrboobiesrider9212]

@@theorderlyman8042 i was amazed by his memory and speed of recall not his knowledge whatsoever. Any way. What's up?

[@MonicaAliciaColunga]

Good

[@peters972]

I think the key to AI would be empathy, which can not be achieved without emotion.

[@llstarlight]

follow your heart *___*

[@calvingrondahl1011]

I love your insights into Germany, Russian and American emotional culture.

[@enriquemartinez5647]

The happines from the eastern europians would be more realistic, for it cones from contrasting, seeing the human condition raw, and not from the Disney fantasy embeded in the mainstream united states-Land.

[@aliasalin2]

Lex " i'am russian" Friedman is the new Joe "i used to know a guy" Rogan

[@pietervermond4743]

Emotion is thought.

[@missclik1419]

lisa fieldman barret & joscha will be super educative ... ty

[@TheSchev]

Winning Solutions Adapted from Brent Cameron's Negotiation Strategy by Dianne and Marc Schevené Underlying presuppositions: That everyone (or part) has a positive intention, that the underlying ecology of individuals (parts) is optimized in win/win situations and that agreement is the basis of the relationship. 1. Identify a conflict situation or decision that needs to be made and establish yourself with others (or as your inner manager) as stepping into the role of facilitator. This is done by stating your interest in there being a mutually satisfying, mutually agreed upon solution that meets the needs of all parties. 2. Get agreement from the people (or parts of yourself) to participate in a win/win negotiation. If you are unable to get and keep this willingness then the possibility of a win/win solution is zero. 3. Thank the parts or people for their willingness to participate and get them to thank each other or express some kind of mutual appreciation and restate commitment. 4. Request that each side state in simple, clear and positive terms their point of view. Assure both sides that they do not have to agree with the other's point of view. 5. Ask the other side if they think they understand the point of view expressed. Ask them to state it in their own words. This is about accurate communication. As needed give each side the opportunity to clarify so that each side feels heard. 6. Now give each side the opportunity to express the underlying positive intention, what it is that they will achieve or preserve as a result. 7. Ask each side to thank the other for their statement of positive intention. 8. Remind both sides that they do not have to agree and ask if they are able to appreciate or accept the positive intentions of the other. 9. Ask each side to state 3 things they are willing to do to support their own positive intention. 10. Ask each side to thank the other for sharing their information. 11. Ask the side you think is most cooperative/flexible to suggest 3 things he/she would be willing to do to support the positive intention of the other. Stress this is willingness and not commitment. Get the other side to acknowledge each suggestion specifically and thank the other for the suggestions. 12. Do step 11 with the other side and listen for positive overlaps. 13. Ask both sides if they felt that there was any common ground or overlap in the suggestions and support creative discussion and further suggestions and ideas. 14. Acknowledge both for their participation and encourage them to thank each other and confirm that each side feels that the solution provides a win/win. 15. Note that creativity played a role in a solution that was not previously understood. Find opportunities to use this process in your relationships. Copy down the points and practice them carefully until they come naturally as a negotiation process.

[@S_Padival]

Why is there an image of Putin on the video? Click bait?

[@sidgillespie5879]

What the hell? I didn't notice it, lol. But it really looks like click bait indeed.

[@S_Padival]

Sid Gillespie it’s alright. Lex said he’ll interview Putin. So maybe it was an Easter egg. Looking forward to it.

[@sidgillespie5879]

@@S_Padival meh, interviewing Puting is a useless endeavor. He never says anything insightful. It's all about his made up vision of the world.

[@a..r.9341]

I think the answer is at 4:45 aprox. F. considers himself Russian (as he says) ... Putin is Russian (and former kgb agent) ... They both are kind of trained in not express emotions (selfprotection) by controlling facial expressiones (the other shall not be able to read you). B who grew up in EastGermany before the Wende does also know perfectly about how to control that ...

[@waedjradi]

So true 5:39

[@gking407]

US positivity would be fine if it was based in reality, but to point out problems means you are negative and “anti-American” 🤦🏻

[@Blueberry-tu9el]

This guy decoded reality and came back or hes the architect taking to us to check how his creation is doing

[@amandaferdon9971]

Just a quick comment regarding the mention of people looking at your face for a certain reaction following his statements. Personally, I prefer looking at your face and eyes the majority of the time. I see a very deep soul and like that you keep and open mind aside from things that can just be proven..

[@SamuelOrjiM]

You, I like you.

[@Wise101]

Lex doesn't suffer from emotions lol

[@is-ness]

But he's Russian. Perhaps he doesn't show them is all.

[@C.muril0]

He probably has low neuroticism

[@is-ness]

@@C.muril0 yes, emotions are so overrated. Mind plus feelings = emotions. Drop mind = peace.

[@heavenlyyaksha68]

I am emotionally broken. How do I even reach near Bach’s verbal abilities?

[@belalnoor9686]

EMDR

[@is-ness]

It's the simplicity of the human condition. Do I follow the mind or heart.. Mind is ultimately suffering & we see the results in society.

[@max4296]

Sounds like Joscha is familiar with Lisa Feldman Barrett's theory of constructed emotion. Wish he would've referenced her theory explicitly in his answer.

[@eoeo92i2b2bx]

I doubt that very much that he knows Lisa’s works. His conclusions come from studying philosophers and mathematicians, and as he said if you diligently familiarise yourself with the intellectual output of the ones that came before us then you get to similar conclusions, only as he said about 400 years later. Perhaps Lisa read the same authors.

[@rxx396]

'Everything below 10% is terrible; everything except the top 1% is "I don't like it"; and the top percent is "even so".' He could have easily been describing Chinese thinking. :-)

[@Kopern1k990]

Can anyone find that diagram about USA and Russia people's reaction?

[@Wardoon]

@Lex Clips

[@xyttra]

Lex saying he doesn't show emotion on his face and in Russian culture this is the norm made me feel better because I too show very little emotion. The thing is, however, I'm Turkish and Turkish people show emotion and I've been asked many times why I look so serious all the time.

[@EugeniaSergeeva]

I'm russian who worked in Turkish company. It's all generalisation. There are plenty of "emotional" Russians as well as "unemotional" Turkish people. Russians are taught to be shy showing emotions, not like they don't have them or they're mostly negative.

[@xyttra]

@@EugeniaSergeeva Absolutely. What I was referring to is showing or not showing emotions. Everyone has emotions, it's a human thing that's hard wired, however different cultures have different norms about showing the emotion. And I think what ends up happening is, let's say people try not to show emotions, but then everyone starts to see more subtle emotions. So even if a population in general is not showing much emotion, there's still emotional communication because people read more subtle cues. Like in America you may have to see someone doing an angry face or start yelling to figure out they're angry, but in Russia people can realize someone is angry just by looking at their eyes. Btw I should also clarify, Turkish people are closer to Russian people on this issue than they're to Americans. And since Turkey experiences every season distinctly and has different regions where the climate is very different, people in different regions vary a lot about being more or less animated.

[@EugeniaSergeeva]

@@xyttra i agree on reading subtle cues) well in general, you just learn the base level and then notice deviations) but suppressing or hiding emotions is not a good thing either. It may easily lead to depression. In my opinion, most people don't even realize that it puts heavy weight on their shoulders.. and sport is one of the best options to deal with it, i think

[@xyttra]

@@EugeniaSergeeva I agree. I've been struggling a lot with this. I've learned to be more open about my emotions, but I can still only be open to a select few people, and I still don't show much emotion on my face.

[@EugeniaSergeeva]

@@xyttra i guess it's good to be open to close people you trust. There are so many idiots around, its just more safe and calm to not reveal what you want to hide)) i mean less trigges and waste of energy )

[@angelosenteio]

This gets to the point about culture being a living thing. More real than our own emotions?

[@Cederic201]

Lex, Очень рекомендую вам почитать книгу русского профессора Савельева Нищета мозга. Найдёшь все ответы о мозге человека и сознании.

[@PicturesJester]

It's funny how his computational view of the human mind relies on Math being the realm of objective truth relevant to our universe, the field of knowledge where we discover the deepest truths available to us. With this view you lose our explanation of why the class of computable functions is privileged in maths so as to be instantiated in the physical world, instead you are stuck claiming the computable functions have some other metaphysical privilege with mathematics that makes it so whatever is computing whole the universe must also make use of the computable functions only and not other maths to create the physical universe.

[@michaelmorris8498]

I would have asked him.... How do I know you are having this conscious experience at the same time as me? How do I know you are real and I am not the only one projecting this reality? I believe you are...but how do I know for sure? Because if you're not...then, your theory on community would need to be altered.. We need to all stop shying away from the NPC conversation.

[@MegzeeR]

All of you who think this is all that there is, please stop for a moment and go inward to that place that jumps when you feel joy and happiness. That's the REAL us, in there, just waiting for you to come home and become the BEING of Love and energy that knows no bounds. LIVE AGAIN and tell these android drones to pound salt! THIS is why matter is the PRISON of the human BEING made of pure energy, Love and Consciousness!

[@Zactastical]

How long have humans been emotional relative to their existance? I have a hypothesis that emotions are an evolutionary adaption that is in response to language being an insufficient mode of communication.

[@djmissy1097]

Don’t think...feel Bruce Lee ❤️

[@alexandreandrianov5970]

This is what happens to you if you read a lot of philosophy.

[@antkcuck]

5:20 the sun glows and the moon reflects

[@WestfaliaStuff]

Lego Movie! I like your Russian humour.

[@selfovercome4161]

I know nothing.

[@piyush216]

All that is fine but why is Putin in the thumbnail lmao :D ;)

[@a..r.9341]

I think the answer is at 4:45 aprox. F. considers himself Russian (as he says) ... Putin is Russian (and former kgb agent) ... They both are kind of trained in not express emotions (selfprotection) by controlling facial expressiones (the other shall not be able to read you). B who grew up in EastGermany before the Wende does also know perfectly about how to control that ...

[@LR-kr9sz]

Why is Putin in the thumbnail?

[@a..r.9341]

I think the answer is at 4:45 aprox. F. considers himself Russian (as he says) ... Putin is Russian (and former kgb agent) ... They both are kind of trained in not express emotions (selfprotection) by controlling facial expressiones (the other shall not be able to read you). B who grew up in EastGermany before the Wende does also know perfectly about how to control that ...

[@petrpesek4746]

Am I alone who doesn’t understand language of that guy? Words I understand but I am lost in sentences a whole meanings :D

[@tehnokracijad.o.o.tehnokra5940]

Lex, watching you forming a sentence is like watching a woman giving birth 144

[@pasteldecarne485]

Please elaborate

[@tehnokracijad.o.o.tehnokra5940]

@@lucasmoreirasantos8377 it's all good. Lex is the man

[@tonyalanmarchant7330]

Wtf?

[@mykolatsyharin7508]

OK so it was an exciting conversation with Joscha Bach, but what's the point of putting that gremlin into the center of the preview pic? Just a cheap click bait, or a try of inpersonification of Eastern European culture and mindset? Both options are sadly unexpected as for the intellectual level that Lex seems to represent

[@andynosretep007]

This guy is on some drug. He is not having a conversation. He is executing replies to questions. Lex clearly didn't understand many things that Joscha explained, but Joscha didn't seem to notice. IMO, this is evidence of some kind of stimulant(High Caffeine, Speed e.t.c)

[@MegzeeR]

Wow, I'll bet this robotic intellect is a monster in the bedroom, eh? Thank you Yeshua for igniting my spirit with your Love and Compassion for EVERYBODY. These "intellects" haven't a damn clue, do they and it's a real shame. To live without Your Truth inside us really is to live as robotic and cold, only seeing the math, molecules and MATTER involved in all of it and no wonder they are all drooling at the mouth to jump into their false savior, electricity.