The protest decision including a statement from Sam Haynes of Celestial.
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@randymcmeekin19552 жыл бұрын
Shallow victory for Ichi Ban. This technicality offered no advantage to Celestial and they won based on better racing and seamanship. Low class move to file this protest.
@spare94342 жыл бұрын
Sam's a good man, they are a good bunch he works with. I really feel for them.
@djholster6762 жыл бұрын
One cannot help but feel for Sam Haynes and all the Celestial crew in this case.
@nathanpodmore46022 жыл бұрын
Sorry but CELESTIAL won in my books! If it were an isolated incident with the PLB but 12 other boats had the same issue! Typical of I.B to protest can't win on the water so looked for a way in the rule book! The old RACE THE RULES NOT THE COMPETITION!
@Yachty40002 жыл бұрын
Comes across as just an honest chap certainly the moral victor. I have less sympathy than I do for Sunrise in the middle sea race because he appointed the jury! and had a say in the Notice of Race #awkward They never hid from the other competitors or gave himself a competitive advantage and even the safety issue only effected his boat. Equipment related protests are always messy but no penalty isn't really an option but you have to be consistent.
@General_Crock2 жыл бұрын
I agree but.... you are well offshore and are told the Race Committee cannot raise the boat closest to you who have an activated EPIRB. Tell me that doesn't play on your mind and affect your focus.
@AndyUK-Corrival2 жыл бұрын
Devastating and he looks totally deflated. Taking the decision with dignity but clearly this needs looking in to given the other yachts with similar issues. I feel for him and the huge effort his crew put in but I’m sure they stand with him.
@carlhill35542 жыл бұрын
You are a winner !
@gregshaw48522 жыл бұрын
Ichi Ban ..Dishonourable, cowardly, despicable. All the world will remember is how you stole this. “You haven't won the race, if in winning the race you have lost the respect of your competitors.” Paul Elvstrom
@johnreuteman27242 жыл бұрын
Did Ichi Ban try to raise Celestial using their MMSI code? Doesn't the MMSI call technology use relaying through other vessels if direct connection is not possible? Does the race committee keep track and use MMSI calling numbers of each race participant? Sounds like the race committee missed applying that whole communication technology method.
@djholster6762 жыл бұрын
AFAIK DSC with MMSI uses channel 70, not 16. The monitoring of Ch.70 is automatic for DSC Alerts, whereas Ch.16 is for all VHF sets, regardless of whether they have DSC, and needs to be monitored by a human.
@michaelallen71552 жыл бұрын
Bummer Sam I feel for you an your crew must be devastating 😔
@tikkathreebarrels2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, this is tough. Over now to Ichi Ban.....
@sellsidedream87662 жыл бұрын
I hear there is a meeting taking place to re-open the protest. Guess some new info might have come to light
@alexjband2 жыл бұрын
There was a solar storm during that time, radio blackouts in the HF and VHF frequencies could have caused this issue. Were space weather conditions even considered during the hearing?
@djholster6762 жыл бұрын
The race organisers could raise Ichi Ban on VHF. Solar storm, really?
@novoburgo2 жыл бұрын
We all know that boat, or that owner, who would file a technical protest in order to win a race they clearly lost on the water. Every club has at least one. Once initiated, the rules must be followed to the letter. The act of initiating this sort of protest is what puts the sport in a bad light and reveals the sort of character deficiencies that take away from the pure enjoyment of competition.
@djholster6762 жыл бұрын
Remember that the race committee filed the primary protest. Ichi Ban protested for redress for time lost in assisting organisers to raise Celestial on VHF. One simply cannot say Ichi Ban were sore losers.
@torbenfalholt57072 жыл бұрын
It is a security issue and there is nothing more to it. It doesnt matter who filed the protest.
@paulchrystie54602 жыл бұрын
did ichi ban slow/change course? newbie ty
@JosePedroEspinosa2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Ichi Ban considered a triumph to do this kind of dirty move. This protest says more about Ichi Ban than Celestial.
@StFidjnr2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the race committee also file a protest against celestial
@ptewilks26342 жыл бұрын
the penalty is politcle runby f witts im so sorry man bless you and your crew
@oliverliddell6132 жыл бұрын
Arid technical protest. Ichiban deserves to lose.
@tswoods20032 жыл бұрын
well spoken. I think I would of muttered the words " bunch of pricks".
@danielwiniger62842 жыл бұрын
Lousy crew that posted such a protest on a technicality that seems to happen all the time.
@General_Crock2 жыл бұрын
"That crew" is the Race Committee. And do you think any skipper out there with a chance of winning the Tattersall would have expected otherwise? I doubt Sam would if the shoe was on the other foot..