rollover valve repair 3g ram

so you broke that stupid thing while changing your fuel pump? been there done that. heres how to do a rollover valve/ tank vent repair on your ram truck.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

I also feel i should elaborate on why bypassing the roll over valve with a piece of hose vented to atmosphere is a safety issue. If you bypass your roll over valve and roll your vehicle all the fuel will spill out, which obviously poses a huge safety risk. That will put both yourself and first responders at risk. So make sure to put a flapper valve in that way it can vent but of the vehicle is overturned it wont spill your gas tank out.

[@Sodapop68]

Glad to see I am not the only one dealing with this. Hard to believe such a tiny insignificant part can cause so much trouble.

[@propertyservices1]

And only on 05' requires whole new tank for a $.30 pc plastic

[@Marashm]

Nipple broke while removing connector. Thank you for posting this. Saved my pockets and my mind from stress.

[@SaveOurAmerica]

Great minds think alike, I broke this nipple off when I was replacing my fuel pump. I literally did the exact same repair (aside from using a different pin to hold the nipple in place) before seeing your video. it's a great way to avoid replacing your tank for sure. Good work man, great walk through for anyone who needs to make the same repair.

[@fivevenomstyle6337]

I don't know the exact number of these trucks that Dodge manufactured, but you Sir should have at least that many Subscribers, just for making this video. Thank you.

[@kiipmiin]

04 Crysler town and country owners as well haha just broke mine off in the middle of fixing the fuel pump.

[@prncspiper6049]

What makes it worse is when you have an impatient father in law helping you and not only breaks the small outlet but also the large one as well so now I have two repairs to make before I can put my fuel pump back together thanks in laws you're the best

[@Rickman357]

Thanks man,I have a 2014 1500 Express 4x4 5.7 hemi,just for reference in case someone runs into the same issue. Before I saw this video I couldn't find something that worked, so I broke off the ground lug from my extension cord and worked ok for about a few months. Then I tried the roll pin,Awesome thanks! Im sure OSHA would not approve of my extension cord anymore though 😁🤣✌️🤙

[@aroncampos5720]

I have the exact same problem and couldnt find the part to replace, which now i know doesnt exist. Thanks for the video and your comments

[@keonep1]

This video saved my A$$!!! Thank you!! I broke both the smaller lines on that stupid rollover valve. I ended up buying the smallest metal brake line I could get from o'reilly's and cutting it down to size. i still had to drill out just a tiny bit for the lines to fit. Then I used quick epoxy to hold them in place. It worked like a charm with no evap leaks.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

glad cold help

[@ivanvasquez2911]

I don’t understand why people keep saying they have to drill out? Help. Mine also broke.

[@Pariscj]

Super helpful i broke one of the nipples trying to get the old house off and the glue i used wouldn’t hold but that putty and the roll pin seems like the perfect fix thanks for this video

[@brokencactus9854]

I just broke this part in the exact same way. Thank you for posting this!

[@aaronsalas7837]

Hey Edward, just want to thank you for the great advice and tips this video gave it really saved a bunch of money and worked great...

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Glad to hear it

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Just a follow up. Been over a year and about 40,000 km. Still no issues.

[@AutobodyAndy]

You don't happen to know the part number for that do ya? Putting a t in that other line is not an option for me

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

@@AutobodyAndy I forget bud. You can find them in the aisle with the doorman "Help" kits. I cant remember a lot of the 3g ram stuff because i dont own it any more. blew that truck up with nitrous at 475,000 km a year ago. Have a 1st gen now but still miss it.

[@anthonybeard9619]

My hose that broke was the larger one. It broke around the neck and hose was just hanging. I found a 7/16 metal tube. I had to carefully drill out the inside of the broken pieces so my tube would slide in the middle then we slid it in and carefully and put epoxie puddy around it and let it dry. Works good

[@davidbarros2600]

Awesome video, cracked my stem off awhile back and now I can repair it before inspection. Thanks.

[@alien20009]

Man I appreciate you so much you just saved me on this good Sunday!

[@1koolblue]

I felt bad for braking the retainer clip that connects to the evap canister, but it would have been a lot worse braking that nipple so I’m glad I broke the clip instead of the nipple cause I was really close to braking it the way I was pulling on it. Those clips are no joke to take off with limited space.

[@kevinalbert8292]

Its a shame that dodge, chrysler has no info on these 2 part vent control valves out there, they really are a 2 part valve, canaster fume line, larger hose and rollover valve line, the hose that connects the vent control valve to the rollover valve, really just connecting one side of the tank to the other, the vent line, the one you fixed, is seperate because it flows to the very center of the control valve stricktly to vent the gas tank, air flows up from center of the control valve to all 3 of the lines, its basically a single check valve on its own thats why it cant be tee into the other two, if it is then the gas tank still cant breath, wish i had a diagram to show this but thats how it works, dodge and chrysler treat it as there big secret valve and purposly put NO info out there on these control valves. i had the opertunity of physically taking one of these control valves apart and a big AH HA moment happend when i seen this valve apart, its very iniq in that its a single gas tank vent check valve while the evap lines a very seperat from that line but at the same time connected /in a check valve way to them, this is why you cant tee the actual vent line to any of the 2 evap lines on this control valve.i would explain more on this valve but it would take me to write a damn book on this page lol. thanks for showing the best way to fix these stupit control valves.

[@MR.TYSON_LB]

Can that valve be removed and replaced with a new one, and if so, what's the process?"

[@derekpangburn5157]

I did exactly what you did in the video and it worked before I put the vent hose on but the hose had a kink in it so it wouldn’t fill so I ordered a new one I hope the kink was the problem 🤷‍♂️

[@deniselane1916]

I used a 2" piece of brake line no epoxy. Holding strong !

[@costakleoni4033]

I put a T in the existing vacuum line and plugged the hole as you said and it did not work. It actually made it worse now it takes forever to fill it with gas and the check engine light is still one. Anyone wondering if going the easy route works it doesn’t you need to hook it up exactly as it was originally.

[@matthewkurtz5250]

That was explained well. Good ideas.

[@brandonGCHACHU]

Thanks Man

[@powerwagon3731]

Thanks, now I know what those two valves are on top of my fuel tank that are not hooked up to anything on mo 2004 Dodge diesel.

[@jordanmarley223]

Thanks for the idea, broke that sucker on a chrysler van. Gonna try this out.

[@marissatemotio1320]

Hey did u managed to fix it.. Mine it's broken too Idk what to do

[@jordanmarley223]

@@marissatemotio1320 ya, just did exactly how the video says. I used the same exact putty and bought a similar roll pin set. So far so good.

[@marissatemotio1320]

@@jordanmarley223 thank you

[@dustinjohnson2116]

So leaving this open will cause a p0456 code which is evap code?

[@CharacterDecoding]

Excellent video, thank you!

[@rogeliorosales5073]

Thanks man u save me a lot of money

[@mb4lunch]

Yep.... I broke mine off just like this. Chrysler T&C van 2003

[@josephburton92]

What diameter fuel like did you use

[@theadventuringabeyta1440]

Have the same problem going on. Tried to epoxy the nipple without using the rollover pin before i seen this video. Held strong but now the pump stops after about 25 cents. Guess ill be breaking off that epoxy and starting over again

[@kevinalbert8292]

probably blocked the vent hole with the epoxy

[@propertyservices1]

Is there any way to take apart or remove that inlet check valve ? It spins and has a gasket. I assume it comes off ??? Tia

[@theVOICE0f1]

Thank you!

[@ke9527]

you read my mind

[@aidendenhartog7803]

I broke that nipple off but don’t have the end piece any other way to fix it?

[@user-ex3jg5js1b]

What type of glue can I use?

[@jrwizz]

New cars suck. They add too much bs just to make it where most people would have to take it to a mechanic.

[@jocevi1773]

How are you, boss, I found a rollpin that is exactly the same size as the hole in the line, so I don't need to make the hole wider with the drill bit. Do you think I need to get a bigger rollpin and make the hole in the line wider?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Shouldn't matter

[@JerryMiah]

Just curious. My knowledge is slim on these newer cars with the evap systems. What would happen if you chose just to not reconnect that line that goes up to the filler hose?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

You can have a range of problems from evap leaks to the pump alawys triggering when you try to fill

[@JerryMiah]

@@edwardgrabinsky6369 in the process of doing your tip. Got the epoxy drying on it now. Thanks alot! I believe it's going to work just fine! I'm replacing the old line with rubber fuel line with hose clamps.

[@ericwhittaker3570]

Anybody know what the purpose is of the little tube that connects one end of the tank to the other?

[@brandonp3441]

Thanks

[@davidpool9066]

Anyone that wants to replace their fuel tank B&R auto wrecking their out of Washington area and they can ship to you. I feel like this video is a temporary solution for now but I think I will replace tank 26 gallon for 142

[@martinbalderama4264]

Did the check engine light turn off?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

I cleared it with a scan tool. No problems since.

[@franclemont]

I’m trying to track down an EVAP leak (large) and am wondering if with the engine off should I be able to hold a vacuum on those smaller lines going to the evap canister? With engine running I hear what sounds like vacuum near the gas tank and suspect them but have not dropped the tank yet. I guess what I’m trying to say is, how can I verify they are working and not leaking?

[@alexbrouillette7658]

I doubt you are still having this problem but if you ever have it again, you can go to pretty much any mechanic and they can do a thing called a smoke test. A smoke test is where they will blow smoke through your evap system and look for smoke leaks. Just a little tip for anyone with a problem like this.

[@timothymendoza3972]

I broke the hose fitting on the other side that's by itself what should I do

[@no_one_u_know4287]

I love my dodge but the amount of bs scamming that they made the whole roll over valve to not be able to be replaced is just horse sh!t

[@robgilder3038]

I broke the same piece but just left it like it was .Would this cause any problems for the truck ?

[@user-cx9ih7uz3c]

I did the same

[@beanznwienaz]

What did the little rubber nipple come off of? I broke the exact same thing and when I put gas in the truck, the fuel slow fills into the tank and stops every .25 of a gallon.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

It was a splice thing for a fuel line. Like old school soft fuel line. I just replaced that line with fuel hose and put clamps on it.

[@the03jorge81]

Where can I get one of those roll pins/pen

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

That kit was Doorman 13850 from canadian tire, but you can get roll pins at most hardware stores. What i did was grab a pin a little bigger than the ID of the plastic so the bore isn't too restricted. Then mic the roll pin OD and match it to a drill, bored out the hole so its a good fit.

[@robertseabrook8926]

Is this a 2018 dodge ram

[@raymondromine2447]

So i broke mine changing fuel pump and i stuck a piece of plastic hose to fit works but stops at the pump every 2 dollars takes 30 minutes to fill up

[@servicepioneerautomotive6734]

i love you

[@nojunkwork5735]

Seems like a lot of fiddle dinken when a used tank and pump is pretty cheap on your local Craigs List.

[@kyheedurden8451]

Are those replaceable

[@ozzyrocks809]

Kyhee Durden no. Must replace the entire tank.

[@bartsmith6508]

do you need to completly drop tank to perform this repair

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

You could probably do it without dropping the tank, but with how much of a pain that would be its honestly easier to drop the tank. Will be less time and work once its all said and done. And you will have a better repair. Seems like more work to drop the tank but honestly its less if you just be careful not to break more stuff. And of you loose or break a clip for the push release things you can just put a zip tie where the plastic band is. But leave the tail on the zip tie so the next guy knows whats going on.

[@GALACTICFEDERATION11]

Could this make the truck not start?

[@udfkiddo]

That's why mine isn't starting

[@Mama.Raven239]

What are the parts that I need

[@hesneyk1]

F'n brilliant!

[@djrodney13]

Can you tell me the size of the T-Connector I would need if I go that route?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

cant remember, just get one of the packs that comes with a bunch of assorted sizes

[@kevinalbert8292]

Dude, your explanation of the rollover valve is not right. the nipple that is broken on your valve does not connect in any way to the 2 that are not broken. the broken one / if you look closely to the top of the rollover valve it extends to the center of the valve enabling the gas tank to vent, the other 2 that are not broken are tied together for vented fumes / evap/ you can not tee the broken vent line to any of the evap lines, you can tee the 2 unbroken evap lines together. Trust me been there done that, worked on these dodge and chrysler rollover valves for many many years. if you dont believe me please fact check everything ive told you. only 2 ways to fix that broken vent nipple /1# the way you just did it or 2# replace entire tank but you cant tee the vent line into any of the other lines.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Sorry bro I'm all out out of gold star stickers for ya. But rock on.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Jk thanks for sharing. Hopefully that saves someone some headache.

[@SHADOW_VLOGZ]

So what is that part called I am trying to buy it can't find the name

[@kevinalbert8292]

if your trying to buy the vent controller valve, you cant. its welded plasticly to the tank. either fix it, the way that is shown here or purchase a new tank, roughly about 7 or 8 hundred dollars, or take a big chance and get a junk yard tank for much cheaper.

[@CodyDoesIt]

Fca tech here and this is still a problem on the 2020 Rams 11k miles smh....

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Seriously? Thats stupid. That 3rd gen was a fun truck but I'm glad I have a 91 diesel now, its so simple.

[@CodyDoesIt]

@@edwardgrabinsky6369 I am a 92 guy my self but gm vehicles

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

@@CodyDoesIt thats sweet. I'm studding the 12v now for turbo upgrade just havnt had any time to film anything unfortunately.

[@CodyDoesIt]

@@edwardgrabinsky6369 Your gonna enjoy that!

[@kamranfareed3286]

@@edwardgrabinsky6369 I am suffering from same nipple broken issue with dodge charger from last 3 years, its not only Rams. I get P0456 and P0457. will try this fix, thanks for this solution

[@gregtrent8162]

You should talk bout rubber hoses being chewed on by squirrels or rodents on top of gas tank which trips your check engine light

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

I honestly never even thought of that. Im not a mechanic by trade i just like old cars so i havnt see it all yet. Makes total sense though. That would be a pain in the but. Smoke machine job to figure that one out i guess.

[@chrisgrasseschi6854]

Can this cause my gas mileage go down?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

If your hunting for just lost milage look elsewhere

[@jonleone777]

Wouldn't it be easier to buy a whole nes piece or valve than try to fix it.

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

If it wasn't plastic welded into the tank, sure. But its plastic welded on these, so you would have to replace the whole tank.

[@marliegrimley4070]

They don't sell the part to just replace it?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

nope cant buy just the valve, gotta replace the tank or bubba it. pretty lame.

[@thinking3954]

Christopher Krumholt Where to buy it?

[@randyosborn284]

Whats the part number, cause they telling me its part of the tank

[@jacobrosario9735]

@@randyosborn284 uhhhh so did this video. Kinda a major point of this whole video actually.

[@bartlott6510]

Can I not just hook both small lines together and bypass since I broke both?

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

Probably could i dont see why not.

[@toddshine]

Finally found the same question I had. I had a large leak P0455, and found 2 dangling lines both hanging down. I figured that was my issue and tied them together. Code went away truck ran fine. Week later I got the P0457 code for a gas cap leak. Searched everywhere. Bought a smoker and found out both small ports are broke off. Now since I tied them together already curious if I can plug the 2 broken ports and hope my codes go away. I don’t plan on rolling my truck any time soon and it’s cheaper than a new tank

[@udfkiddo]

Broke it on my 2012 coat me over 3k to fix

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

3k wow thats ridiculous... almost like they want you to break it eh...

[@williamensminger9892]

I had the diagnostic Codes P0442 & P0456 for a year. When the fuel pump quit, I was looking undernieth and found the hose from gas cap (line) was hanging and had a white nipple that broken from somewhere. I have the longbed Ram, so I I also broke the fuel pump's nipple trying to disconnect. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKSrgGidr96MoKs After my fuel pump quit, and I was looking up, I saw the loose hose. 24-31" from from, 16-26" from driver side, cut bed access. I have yet to remove the broken nipples. The Dodge & GM OEM tool removed the pumps ring, and reinstall a snap..

[@chrisace3086]

You do know you can just replace the fuel tank vent valve instead of doing all that putty stuff 😆

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

On a 3rd gen 1/2 tone, no you cant. Its plastic welded in.

[@chrisace3086]

@@edwardgrabinsky6369 just messing with you I'm having to do this due to a shop broke mine after replacing fuel pump and didn't tell me anything and how I figure it out was barely pulling that line and it came off the fuel tank vent valve with a cut straw...I'm going to see bout getting all my money back for they're poor work if not I'm going to takem to small claims court cause all other work they done on it isn't any better they even screwed up the parts I got from rockauto for both front control arms with ball joints and bottom they didn't put grease and on one of my bottom balls joints they put a pin hole in my boot. This kind of stress I'm talking bout is itching for a straight ass beating

[@user-sp9qn3wx7j]

Never ever use any kind puddy with gas eat right through

[@edwardgrabinsky6369]

No there are many that are rated for direct contact to gasoline or its vapor. You just have to select the right one for your application. That putty held up for over 100,000 km before i blew the engine up drag racing on nitrous.

[@user-ex3jg5js1b]

What type of glue can I use?