Rolls-Royce Camargue - The Italian Adventure

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Ruairidh MacVeigh

Ruairidh MacVeigh

11 ай бұрын

Buon giorno! :D
For a company steeped in its conservatism and upholding of traditional luxury, the Rolls-Royce Camargue of 1975 was a response to the rapidly changing tastes of the world surrounding the premier brand of the motoring scene, mixing all the accomplishments and finery expected of a 1970s Rolls-Royce with crisp, unconventional Italian styling so as to create a machine that was not your average luxury saloon.
Sadly, Rolls-Royce's attempt to step outside the box, and in so doing create the world's most expensive production car for the time, near-universal condemnation followed, and today the Camargue is often regarded as perhaps the worst Rolls-Royce product ever built, although as with so many things, time has been generally kind to this misunderstood machine, and today a new appreciation has emerged for this 1970s venture into unknown territory by the most bespoke name in the automotive business.
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@herseem
@herseem 11 ай бұрын
Two fun facts not mentioned in this video: 1) Rolls used Citroen's hydrodynamic syspension system and built it under licence, 2) The FAB1 was the only representational of a fictional car that Rolls-Royce allowed to have the Rolls-Royce name on it, and you can see why as it fitted their identity and was great for marketing purposes.
@brianiswrong
@brianiswrong 11 ай бұрын
The hydraulic suspension was only used on the rear and when the car was in park but running, it self leved twice as fast as it did when the car was in motion.
@herseem
@herseem 11 ай бұрын
@@brianiswrong Ok, that's a detail I didn't know! Are you saying that the front had traditional coil springs and shock absorbers?
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd 11 ай бұрын
I am editing this in light of information I was unaware of and a thank you to Richard Smeet for correcting my error. When Hollywood decided to make the film "Thunderbirds"*, Rolls Royce declined to build a car for the film. So that version of "Fab 1" is a Ford creation. *this was actually the 3rd Thunderbirds film after "Thunderbirds Are Go" and "Thunderbird 6"
@glennpowell3444
@glennpowell3444 11 ай бұрын
You are correct.The difference being ( unlike citreons) the braking hydraulics ran an independant system.
@obelic71
@obelic71 11 ай бұрын
@@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd the Ford Thunderbird is used in the thirth Thunderbirds movie. There are 3 Thunderbird movies. the first 2 movies "thunderbirds are go"1966 and "Thunderbird 6" 1968 have the original RR model of the Fab1. A Thunderbird movie without a Rolls Royce other UK luxury brand Fab1 is in my view a sacriledge! In the 2004 Thunderbirds movie Lady Penelope should at least had a Range Rover /Jaguar / Aston Martin who were at that time part of the Ford Motor companny.
@smakfu1375
@smakfu1375 11 ай бұрын
I always found the Carmague to be one of the best looking cars Rolls produced during that era. Part of that being a result of not liking much of the 70’s and 80’s Rolls baroque design aesthetic, which the Carmague eschewed in favor of cleaner, more original angular styling. To my eyes as a kid, it appeared to be what a future-looking Rolls-Royce should be. I especially like the 3-quarter views and the integration of the pillars into the shoulder-line. I’d proudly drive one of these beasts.
@Snikkelbek
@Snikkelbek 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, its design is very elegant.
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545 11 ай бұрын
A neighbour of mine, when I was a boy, ran a Camargue. It was brown, and he very rarely actually drove it. It just sat there on his driveway, getting washed and polished religiously every Friday.
@gc7820
@gc7820 11 ай бұрын
Often considered an ugly duckling but my personal favourite rolls - beauty is in the eye of the beholder
@mattg8369
@mattg8369 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I've always found these handsome and interesting.
@herrgolf
@herrgolf 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely my favorite Rolls Royce, largely owing to its looks.
@glennpowell3444
@glennpowell3444 11 ай бұрын
For those curious with the reference made to the appeances being similar to the Fiat Coupe is because the main desighner at RR in Crewe spotted a visitors Fiat in the car park and wanted to ape its general looks which is exactly how the carmage did.Even the seats and stitching were homaged as he was so impressed with the Fiats styling that was modern and extremely luxurious at the time.He realised that RR needed a general more contemporary look for greater appeal.Tyrells workshop actually did a video on the subject.
@JSDesignHK
@JSDesignHK 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Iain Tyrell was incorrect on that point; the design for Camargue was actually finalised in 1969 just before the launch of the Fiat 130 coupé. Although this video is quite good, there is a lot of incorrect information.
@SLAmey-mu9hd
@SLAmey-mu9hd 11 ай бұрын
I can't help but visualise Lady Penelope when seeing the front end of the Camargue... I also remember not knowing how to pronounce the name of this car as a young lad 🤣
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
@@JSDesignHK Tyrell is a fraudster, that's why he gets so much wrong. Everything he tries to portray is fake including his business.
@SCR-ce2fs
@SCR-ce2fs 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are always excellent. The quality and rarity of the archive clips goes far beyond anything similar. Many thanks
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 11 ай бұрын
I think the design allowed for a generous cabin and good ride, it appears very wide for its length and this is the model that attracted me to Rolls Royce cars. it was in production for 11 years and over 500 made so I would call it successful.
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
Especially when you consider just how expensive this model was back in 1975 ,and later on .No wonder only approximately 530 were ever built !. So rare are they, most people will never actually see one on the roads.......
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 11 ай бұрын
@@alancrisp1582 True and it was one heck of a prestige vehicle in its time with a light airy sumptuous interior thanks to the large glass area. Sure it may have a look of FIAT but the design deserved to be put out there. It will join the ranks of other rare cars we are unlikely to see.
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
@@anthonyxuereb792 👍Absolutely highly collectable !.
@GasoliniASMR
@GasoliniASMR 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you give not only the 'official' adjusted for inflation price but also the 'real' adjusted for inflation price (i.e house price comparison). Not many history channels bother to do that.
@jmad627
@jmad627 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, it gives one proper perspective.
@charlesmoss8119
@charlesmoss8119 11 ай бұрын
As a Bentley this car makes a huge deal more sense to me! Shake they didn’t progress that idea further and earlier.
@kellingtonlink956
@kellingtonlink956 11 ай бұрын
I always wondered about this model’s history. It more fascinating than I expected. Thanks for the history lesson. Cheers.
@Michael-yd5ry
@Michael-yd5ry 11 ай бұрын
The original Shadows didn't have a 6.7 V8,they had a 6.2
@michaeloreilly657
@michaeloreilly657 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see your own work included in the video.
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 11 ай бұрын
Do a video on the Citroën SM! I own one. My grandfather also had a Maserati Khamsin, Maserati Ghibli, and A.L.F.A. Romeo Montreal. My grandfather bought them used back in the 80’s/90’s when they were worth almost nothing.
@johncanalese588
@johncanalese588 11 ай бұрын
"Alfa" is not spelt as an acronym anymore so you don't need to spell it as "A.L.F.A" - any reason why you did so. The brands name is simply "Alfa Romeo". The word "Alfa" in Italian is borrowed from the Greek language, which we all know is the first letter of the Greek alphabet so there’s a linkage Roy being “first”.
@glennpowell3444
@glennpowell3444 11 ай бұрын
Just a footnote.Despite RR being the ultumates in luxury and refinenement during to 70,s and 80,s they still rotted as quickly as a mk1/2 Ford granada Ghia.Many old Rolls ended up on banger ovals just the same.Once second hand parts and repairs made them mere scrap.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
They didn't rot at anything like the same rate as a spam can ford. The Shadow was the first car to make extensive use of galvanised underbody panels and was well protected.
@JakobKsGarage
@JakobKsGarage 11 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 100K 🏆 Nice video as always, thanks 👍
@superdougie10
@superdougie10 10 ай бұрын
I think this car is beautiful and has a very strong and authoritative front end.
@macjim
@macjim 11 ай бұрын
‘Rumble of the production line’! One’s RR does not ‘rumble’, it wafts! What what.
@Jedi.Toby.M
@Jedi.Toby.M 11 ай бұрын
Another great upload mate! With the research you put in and the production quality being, my I say, excellent...I'm sharing your channel as much as possible, huge cheers from the commonwealth of Canada mate! Or as the Yankees say...Props!
@at-dn5xk
@at-dn5xk 10 ай бұрын
thanks for this perfect documentation. Short and informative
@petersellers-dy9mm
@petersellers-dy9mm 11 ай бұрын
A very underestimated motor car. Personally i would love to own one ❤
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 11 ай бұрын
The Roller no less, I love waking up to you and your uploads every Saturday and thanks again 👍 ☘️
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545 11 ай бұрын
Indeed - Ruairidh's vids are appointment viewing for me!
@pymslane
@pymslane 11 ай бұрын
"A new generation of buyer....." i.e. me, "....found a soft spot....." for Camilla, MYY168X, that you filmed at the NEC in November 2022. Glad to finally see the full video released. They are lovely old things, despite the similarity of the underpinnings (okay let's face it identical!) to a Corniche of the same era, the Camargue feels even more sedate and stately to drive. How do I know? Well I've got both of course. Camilla > Cornelius for ride comfort and overall imperious feel!
@iansampson2492
@iansampson2492 10 ай бұрын
Hands down the coolest Roller out there
@joelhenderson4450
@joelhenderson4450 11 ай бұрын
The engine of the Shadow remained of 6.2 displacement for a number of years after its introduction.
@caledonianrailway1233
@caledonianrailway1233 11 ай бұрын
Looks great
@rustyturner431
@rustyturner431 3 ай бұрын
I still remember the first one of these I saw. I was managing a Ferrari dealership, and a Mexican customer pulled up in one. I thought it was a Buick until I saw the badge on the boot lid! That would never have been true of a Corniche...
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 11 ай бұрын
I think that my Grandad had that car before and he said to me that it was so comfortable and very luxurious. Even though my Grandad wasn’t that rich but he did afforded to get that car.
@Leipaa
@Leipaa 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ruairidh, this has always been my favorite Rolls, and I've never understood all the hate for this car's stying. I now understand it was seen as too similar to less expensive models common in the 1970s. I think it's a timeless design and appreciation of it will keep growing.
@joeambaye8681
@joeambaye8681 11 ай бұрын
The Fiat 130 coupe definitely a better looker.
@jonnycando
@jonnycando 11 ай бұрын
Camargue was up with the times and I thought it rather fetching!
@francoisrh3781
@francoisrh3781 11 ай бұрын
If one day you look for an interesting video, think about the Astom Martin Lagonda. Quite something too!
@charlesrousseau6837
@charlesrousseau6837 10 ай бұрын
As much as I love your interesting planes, cars and trains videos, I hate the speed of your narration and there's nothing I can do about it
@philippeschneider1307
@philippeschneider1307 10 ай бұрын
one of the most beautiful Rolls (car) ever created in this world.
@websitesthatneedanem
@websitesthatneedanem 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks.
@CreRay
@CreRay 11 ай бұрын
Truly a unique car, I've been to quite a few classic car shows but can't recollect ever having seen one in real life, let alone on the road. Did the car in the end generate a profit for Rolls Royce, and did it meet sales targets?
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 11 ай бұрын
No and no.
@Treviscoe
@Treviscoe 10 ай бұрын
Hi there, The only time I can remember seeing one on the road was on Park Lane in London.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 11 ай бұрын
I think it looks good if not better. ( used to own a silver shadow - fun shocking other drivers with the English setup)
@ruymxsx7
@ruymxsx7 10 ай бұрын
Buen vídeo sobre esa belleza y rareza de coche
@MaximilianvonPinneberg
@MaximilianvonPinneberg 10 ай бұрын
You can definitely see the influence on the Giles Taylor cars.
@stephanfourie6879
@stephanfourie6879 11 ай бұрын
Honest question here:was it a good or bad car? I think it is absolutely beautiful!!
@rebeltvr6046
@rebeltvr6046 10 ай бұрын
It was a great car. Only thing people of the time complained about was the styling, that's it.
@dufushead
@dufushead 11 ай бұрын
It was designed for Sheikh Yer Money and his mates. I always found it gauche.
@johnpoile1451
@johnpoile1451 11 ай бұрын
Not compared to the conspicuous wealth, look at me pimp mobiles of today.
@KiwiGraggle
@KiwiGraggle 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful car, it really is.
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
At the first year of production and release, the most expensive car 🚙 in the world. Very rare indeed, only approximately 530 units produced over 11 years. And never at the rate of more than one per week. Only the much later Silver Seraph comes second, in terms of so few built .This model is so rare, i have never actually seen one up close !........😮
@davidcomtedeherstal
@davidcomtedeherstal 5 ай бұрын
My dad likes the Camargue and still has it in his garage.
@keithsimcock
@keithsimcock 11 ай бұрын
Awesome review very informative…. Noted again how Joe Public (us plebs) bailed out Rolls Royce to enable the development and supply of the RR jet engines…..
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 11 ай бұрын
I think I've seen 2 on the road, the 1st was a really tasteful (not) shade of bright gold. Looked like it had been gold plated, about 1980.
@SP00TNIC
@SP00TNIC 11 ай бұрын
You got to love those 1970s Italian car designers many of them got inspiration from cartoons, there were few cars like this one that was actually developed and built and sold and it looks like a cartoon car this is not the first one from Italian 1970s designers .. flavor of a the cartoon car and a flavor of what a child draws when he's 5 years old thinking what a car looks like mixed together
@johncanalese588
@johncanalese588 11 ай бұрын
Frankly I have never heard of Italian designers as having been influenced by "cartoon characters", Japanese maybe but not Italian.
@SP00TNIC
@SP00TNIC 11 ай бұрын
@@johncanalese588 Fiat Multiple is one goofy cartoon looking car
@johncanalese588
@johncanalese588 11 ай бұрын
@@SP00TNIC I agree that the Multipla is an un-usual looking car, but not a cartoon. The design brief on that car was one of maximum in interior space and visibility, and actually fits its purpose - wasn't a '70's design either.
@FunYl
@FunYl 9 ай бұрын
"Industrial espionage by Mercedes" 😂 yeah, right
@Michael-yd5ry
@Michael-yd5ry 11 ай бұрын
I drove my dads when I was 15.Two years before I was legally allowed to drive.
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
😂🙂 You were then a very lucky boy 👦. As most mere mortals in the world today, could never say that, with regards to this car !...
@geraldsmith7240
@geraldsmith7240 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant.🇬🇧⭐️🔱
@philbosworth3789
@philbosworth3789 10 ай бұрын
Is this a reupload due to YT? I watched this the other day.
@whiskeysk
@whiskeysk 11 ай бұрын
why is there a Skoda Octavia/Spartak at 2:04 ???
@feefyefoefum
@feefyefoefum 11 ай бұрын
I always liked the boldness of RR in making this car. Compared to it's dull mainstream models it was special and a bit weird, but not as far out as it's rival the wedge Lagonda.
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 9 ай бұрын
But then, ya gotta change with the times for the consumer.
@rosewood1
@rosewood1 6 ай бұрын
The Shadow like the Cloud was beautifully built and designed. There was real flowing harmony in the design. The rear tail lights for example were integrated into the flowing body lines. The cars avoided being slab sided through clever design and placement of trim. The Carmargue however was amateurish being designed really as a 2 door silhouette and not from a 3 dimensional perspective. It didn't work and its size did it no favours. Compared to a Ferrari 400 or a Fiat 130 it was obese and lacked the elegance of a Corniche. Nevertheless it wasn't the worst RR design IMO.
@peterfirside295
@peterfirside295 11 ай бұрын
now THAT'S exciting.
@paulbedford9816
@paulbedford9816 10 ай бұрын
The waist rail was surely pressed stainless and door handles were chromed but over brass? Regarding the licensing of certain parts from Citroen that is true, very early Shadows have a plate stating such.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
Not true. The plate covers a particular design concept that was almost insignificant and no Citroen parts were used. In later Shadows and all Shadow II vehicles it became redundant.
@paulbedford9816
@paulbedford9816 10 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 If RR had to use a plate to identify that they paid a license fee for ANY part or protected idea that belonged to Citroen, they did? Insignificant to you or not? Simple fact. I agree they rarely used actual Citroen parts other than the gas balls (green) that Citroen themselves used. I think you'll note that I said 'very early Shadows'?
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
@@paulbedford9816 My statement was very clear, no Citroen parts were used and the protected idea didn't relate to the hydraulic side of either brakes or suspension. The significance is that reality is very different to the myths that were seeded soon after the SY cars were reported on by the press. The green spheres on SZ cars were not Citroen parts. They look the same but have different fill pressures.
@alexwebster7065
@alexwebster7065 10 ай бұрын
To the existing standard measurements of "area of a football field", "area the size of Wales" and "the weight of an elephant", we can now add "the price of a Mini Clubman"!
@harcourtltdgmn
@harcourtltdgmn 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful Blue Camargue which was once in my care….
@anonimushbosh
@anonimushbosh 10 ай бұрын
Buyers would queue up to pay 7 figures for an all new Silver Ghost updating the 60s design.
@macjim
@macjim 11 ай бұрын
FDL… that is an Isle of Wight registration; DL being the islands registration until the new & current system came in.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 11 ай бұрын
It's a butterface. The round headlights are the most discordant style note, especially since their surround doesn't quite match the turn signal clusters at any point - all-amber or all-clear white except an amber side reflector ones on US-spec models would've helped a bit and the prototype with quad square sealed beam headlights should've gone into production immediately. Other than that it's still a bit too tall for a coupe, the 1977-79 Buick LeSabre and Pontiac Catalina coupes were a more successful adaptation of Fiat 130 design cues to a really big car (I'm leaving the Bonneville out because its' skirted rear fenders reintroduced a heaviness the base design avoided).
@Bengtedvard
@Bengtedvard Ай бұрын
Looks like the Volvo 780, it was also designed in Italy. Check it out.
@rat_king-
@rat_king- 11 ай бұрын
Captions are a blob at the start of the video, i turn on transcript they come on in order, i use the video cc, they arrive as blob.
@DavidHall-ge6nn
@DavidHall-ge6nn 11 ай бұрын
I did not like the Camargue at all initially, largely due to the ugly headlights. My neighbor had one in an exceptionally unattractive shade of orange-red. I still don't like the color, but I have gradually come to like the car. I think the original design with European headlights or even the square ones so popular in the US at the time would have made a huge improvement.
@withapulse2000
@withapulse2000 11 ай бұрын
I had to re-wind twice at 11.00secs as I thought I must have misheard that the 6.75 litre engine could produce 200bhp!. No wonder RR shied away from publicly disclosing this figure, merely referring to their engines as being 'adequate'.
@_dude..
@_dude.. 10 ай бұрын
Probably an above average bhp number for a v8 in the 70s.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
You don't understand what horsepower is.
@joelhenderson4450
@joelhenderson4450 11 ай бұрын
Hilarious to think that Jag or M-B would have been even mildly interested in the Camargue and conducting espionage. Sat back and watched it fail more like!
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 11 ай бұрын
It’s so beautiful now.
@Arturino_Burachelini
@Arturino_Burachelini 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a Brittish malaise car 😅
@MrSmith1984
@MrSmith1984 10 ай бұрын
£29,000 could get you a 7-Bedroom House in the Home Counties during the Mid-70s then? You know house prices are crazy in the London Metropolis when you remember that such a house would cost a 1000 times more today.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 11 ай бұрын
What's the difference between Bentley, Rolls Royce, Daimler Benz, Mercedes Benz and Man Utd and England footy teams?
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 9 ай бұрын
More like an Italian MISadventure.
@johnny5805
@johnny5805 11 ай бұрын
You can see what The Simpsons based 'The Homer' on.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 10 ай бұрын
That would be the Mohs Ostentatienne Opera Sedan.
@Liodegrance
@Liodegrance 11 ай бұрын
So you tell us Crew - a major transport hub - is in Cheshire , but where the flip is Willerersden?😂
@alfyryan6949
@alfyryan6949 11 ай бұрын
Willesden - that's in London
@FredPilcher
@FredPilcher 11 ай бұрын
"Haitch J..." "A Sarah Moanie" Rolls and Royce would spin in their graves!
@smorris12
@smorris12 11 ай бұрын
30bhp/litre. Woo. The RR 6.75 must be the most over-hyped and under-performing engine in the history of internal combustion.
@htimsid
@htimsid 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget the later versions of the GM 8.2 litre V8. Or the final versions of the RR/B L-series in the Arnage T.
@smorris12
@smorris12 11 ай бұрын
@@htimsid You're right. It's utterly pointless.
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
🤔 Really ,Have you ever actually driven a Rolls_Royce vehicle fitted with this engine ?. Let alone are Turbo version !. Since besides their wight and an automatic gearbox, are very powerful vehicles, then and now !........
@herseem
@herseem 11 ай бұрын
Yes, but on how many other engines would you be able to balance a coin on its edge while its running? That's what really matters to car buyers! But remember that this engine was developed over time, and it was more about torque than power. As a result, when this engine was eventually replaced by shiny new BMW V12, so many buyers hated it that they brought the V8 back out of retirement as a 'red label' edition - that's what it means when you see it on the back of a Rolls or Bentley. Someone who has driven both said that the V12 didn't have the instant torque that the V8 has, that's why he prefers the V8. So an old engine being brought back out of retirement due to customer demand says something about it that it has some quality that people just liked.
@smorris12
@smorris12 11 ай бұрын
@@alancrisp1582 So its got torque low down. Fine. But they couldn't be bothered to do anything to make it rev or breathe. Which makes it a one trick, flat-footed pony. And then they stuck with it for years. As I said, over-hyped.
@bobtepedino5661
@bobtepedino5661 10 ай бұрын
Unlike Lincoln's Mark III, Jaguar's XJS and Mercedes' SL - all of which were rakish, more expensive coupe versions of well-established corporate sedans, the Camargue REFUSED to be significantly smaller or more youthful. Even with its pedigreed bodywork, the lumbering aristocrat failed to cast aside the staid noblesse oblige that defined Mummy's motor as the Lincoln, Jag and Merc had successfully done.
@RandomTrinidadian
@RandomTrinidadian 11 ай бұрын
It look like the result of a one night stand between a Rolls Royce and a Cadilac
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 9 ай бұрын
A lot of today's Rolls (and Bentlys) are really ridiculous with their features. (See Supercar Blondy.)
@keithb9272
@keithb9272 10 ай бұрын
This is the ONLY R.R. model that I can honestly say that I wouldn't lift a finger if I saw one in a motorcar crusher somewhere. Since the early 1900's we've always been an R.R. family. (And Cadillac) Both sets of grandparents had 1965 R.R. SC3's that we still have in perfect working order. Over the yrs we've had almost every model or the RR line up. But this Camargue was such an abomination and slap in the face of what the artistry of the lines of the RRs were, that my father STILL carries on about it to this day!! He would say, "Appealing to the nouveau riche is no way to keep the mystique and exclusivity of this treasured line in tact." I have to agree with him. Look at what's buying them today? Just rubbish. Just because you can afford to buy a R.R. doesn't mean you should be able to own one.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
You've obviously never driven one. They quickly grow on you.
@keithb9272
@keithb9272 10 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 We're a R.R. family. Still have 2 of our Great grandparent's 1965 SC3's. We've had the Silver Shadows, and Corniche. So I doubt this FUGLY thing drives anywhere better or worse then what we have. So don't assume people do not know what a RR drives like.
@freddieredding4565
@freddieredding4565 11 ай бұрын
Unpopular Opinion: I have a hunch that the Spectre would end up like the Carmague.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 11 ай бұрын
I caught several mistakes already in the first 30 seconds. The car was never intended to replace the Corniche that was only a couple of years old at yhe time, it was thought of as an upward extension of the line-up. It wasn't "The first" Rolls-Royce designed outside the company. In fact, it is almost the other way around. Up until rhe fifties, most Rolls-Royce bodies was not only designed but also built outside the company. The Silver Dawn/Wraith was the first "in-house" design, followed by the Silver Cloud, Silver Shadow, and the Corniche. So, there had only been four models previous to the Camargue that could be considered being designed by Rolls-Royce themselves. Also, even though the Corniche and other special models had been built by Mulliner Park Ward "outside" the company, that company had been acquired by Rolls Royce in 1959.
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 11 ай бұрын
those bodies that were designed and built by someone else, you think Rolls had zero input into them?
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisdavidson911 In some cases, yes. There are several notorious cases of cars being designed and built by coachbuilders that didn't met the approval of RR. Of course, most coachbuilders built their cars with the company's blessing. My point being, before the late forties, they didn't have any design department less a designer of their own, because *ALL* of their cars were built and designed outside the company. The Styling Department was only made an entity of its own within the company in 1951 in preparation for the Silver Cloud and with John Blatchley heading it who had previously designed cars for the outside coachbuilder Gurney Nutting.
@mrspandel5737
@mrspandel5737 11 ай бұрын
If anything, the earlier coachbuilt cars were essentially one-offs built to customer specification on a standard RR chassis, which was common practice for all luxury car makers. The only thing on those bodies provided by the chassis makers was usually the radiator grille. The Carmague was a serial production vehicle though, with its standard body being a Pininfarina design. To my knowledge none of the standard Bentley and Rolls-Royce bodies prior to it (keyword being standard bodies) were outsourced to outside coachbuilders.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 11 ай бұрын
@@mrspandel5737 it wasn't even the first time that Pininfarina was involved in the design process. Pininfarina designed a one-off coupe on a Bentley chassis in the early fifties that was the inspiration for the in-house Bentley Continental. Pininfarina was also hired in secret as a design consultant for the Silver Shadow, a fact that Rolls Royce themselves tried to hide, as it was very important to them that it looked like their first "Single Bow" design was made by themselves and not by an outside party. If you compare the Silver Shadow against the Pininfarina designed Peugeot 403 of 1955, you'll notice that the Silver Shadow is nothing but the concept of the 403 scaled up.
@rjscott6116
@rjscott6116 8 ай бұрын
It's more copying the Americans. The rear looks so much like a Caprice/Impala from the 70's that if it were yellow, many in the States will think you slapped a Rolls-Royce grill on a taxi cab.
@rjscott6116
@rjscott6116 8 ай бұрын
It even used a GM transmission!
@rjscott6116
@rjscott6116 8 ай бұрын
That said, the interior is stunning....
@s.s.p.9680
@s.s.p.9680 10 ай бұрын
The falconry conversion was $396k then or in todays money inflation-adjusted?
@s.s.p.9680
@s.s.p.9680 10 ай бұрын
I heard that the falconry car was comissioned by the king of Morocco, not an Arabian sheikh.
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 7 ай бұрын
The Camargue looks superb compared with the downright ugly trash called Rolls Royce produced these days. Easy to see why the Silver Clouds are gaining popularity again. There is a really beautiful car!
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 9 ай бұрын
What a stupid idea... and not even 4 doors!
@superdougie10
@superdougie10 10 ай бұрын
Wonder if anyone has stretched one of these for use as a limousine?
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman 11 ай бұрын
My dream car is a Rolls-Royce. Any of them. So it's great to see them here. I like it, personally. But I am an American, so... maybe it's supposed to appeal to me?
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann 10 ай бұрын
The sheiks version: the Rolls Royce Carmoke
@s.s.p.9680
@s.s.p.9680 10 ай бұрын
Why so much more expensive in the US than UK? ($147k against £29k). £ did not cost more than 2.4 $ in 1975.
@s.s.p.9680
@s.s.p.9680 10 ай бұрын
It's not 15% difference, it's 100% difference. Or is it about a specific unit which cost in options 80% more than the base US MSRP?
@conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720
@conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720 10 ай бұрын
Rolls Royce 's Italian job😂
@gwheregwhizz
@gwheregwhizz 11 ай бұрын
In the seventies, their core market consisted of chauffeur driven toffs, funeral and wedding cars so sales of a two door were never going to be great.
@andrelemire9915
@andrelemire9915 3 ай бұрын
🌹✨🌟🌹
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879 11 ай бұрын
The Camargue built by Sbarro was not made for any arabian sheikh, but for HRH The King of Morocco
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey 11 ай бұрын
It would have been better if the Italians just bolted a Rolls grill on a Fiat 130 Coupé.
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion Italian design is totally over hyped!
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 11 ай бұрын
Overpriced toys for the elites.
@jamesbowler3654
@jamesbowler3654 10 ай бұрын
I remembered loading these on our ship for export, we all committed on the poor finish, Still the ugliest car they ever built!
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 10 ай бұрын
The finish on these was excellent, they were probably sprayed with something like Tempro for the journey.
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 11 ай бұрын
I've never seen a Camargue before. Hope I never see one again.
@heidirabenau511
@heidirabenau511 11 ай бұрын
How can you see one again when you've never seen one?
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 11 ай бұрын
@@heidirabenau511 Before this video. Geez, keep up. 🙄
@alancrisp1582
@alancrisp1582 11 ай бұрын
You need not worry about that .As this model Rolls_Royce is so rare ,you might like myself. Never actually see one driving 🚘 on the road !.....
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 11 ай бұрын
@@alancrisp1582 That's a relief 😄
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