STAR TREK DS9 Accession + Rules of Engagement | 4x16/4x17 REACTION | FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

[@RolyPolyOllieReactions]

Sorry I couldn't make the premiere today ya'll! I was on vacation! Hopefully see you next week!! :)

[@ariksoong200]

You would make a good looking vorta. Give us your best vorta impression 😅

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

11:55 You keep that in mind....

[@jeffd.6498]

Worf's grandfather was a lawyer. Played by Micheal Dorn in ST6.

[@TheAtkey]

He was also a colonel in the Klingon military and a diplomat. He had a line near the end of the movie that was cut from the theatrical release but included in the VHS and DVD releases.

[@majkus]

"Congratulations. You are fully dilated to ten centimeters. You may now give birth." - Worf, to Keiko, "Disaster"

[@markbade565]

Keiko: (indignant) that's what I've been DOING...

[@trekkiejunk]

Quark's comment about babies putting things in their ears was a joke. See, it's common for human parents to say that kids keep putting things straight into their mouths. But they flip it to ears, because Ferengis have big ears. It was kind of a meta joke.

[@ztomas1]

Yes that was a Next Generation episode Worf delivering Molly, it was called, "Disaster" Season 5, Episode 5, I'm guessing you missed that one

[@trekkiejunk]

Yeah, he chose to only watch a handful of episodes of TNG, but do all of DS9. He said there is some secret reason he didn't want to watch more TNG, and said he will tell us why someday, when he feels it's right. IDK, maybe there's some personal trauma involving an episode.

[@J4ME5_]

It's a Really good one

[@J4ME5_]

​@@trekkiejunkor someone he cared about loved it a lot and now they are gone.

[@ztomas1]

​​​@@MrDeathpilotWHY? Because at 7:20 he asked if that was an episode...try watching the video 🤣

[@MrDeathpilot]

@@ztomas1 Sorry. I just saw a moron who went into detail about everthing that happens in that episode and I over-reacted to your comment. I'll remove mine.

[@davidgorman994]

Ascension is one of my favourite episodes. I just love the dawning realization from Sisko that he really is the Emissary and how passionate he wants to protect Bajor. It's a very pivotal episode that isn't a Dominion episode.

[@fakecubed]

The Sisko is of Bajor.

[@hellfish2309]

“New Messiah just dropped!”

[@jerodast]

I like Sisko's story in the episode, and I like that he directly goes to the Prophets with his problem; it develops their relationship further. Overall I think the show should've done more with what it means for him to be the Emissary early on...like, 2-3 episodes per season instead of 1-2 haha. Problem is...this episode is cartoonishly extreme on the Bajoran side. There's apparently no pushback whatsoever on the catastrophic social changes? And yet once it's back to normal all we hear about is how relieved everyone is...I know they're a "holy people" but damn, have a backbone. Also, was like, every Vedek just lucky their family was in the right caste 300 years ago? It's all handwaved aside. DS9 sometimes writes Bajoran issues well without reminding us too much how undefined the world really is, but this was not one of those times.

[@MatthewBluefox]

That was a No-Winn-Scenario. :)

[@-M0LE]

🥁

[@Eva_H]

I saw what you did there 🤘🤣🤘

[@richardwani2803]

😂🤣😂

[@actor_jim]

I love that when O'Brien's in command, Michael Dorn out of Klingon makeup is his helmsman.

[@markbade565]

That's not Michael Dorn. His name is Christopher Michael. I personally remember him from his role as an undercover federal agent in Guyver: Dark Hero 🤓

[@baronvg]

These were two really good episodes. I usually dislike the Bajoran political episodes but Ascension was engaging. And Rules of Engagement was so good with its format and direction. And courtroom dramas are always fun in Star Trek(Measure of a Man, The First Duty, etc.).

[@607995]

“You’ll wish you had gone into botany.” is one of my favorite lines of the series. 😂

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

I try to keep an eye out for opportunities to use it in real life. 😁

[@dargron7614]

Good thing Keiko wasn't in the room to hear it.

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

Re: Keiko and Worf, there's an episode called Disaster from (I think) season 5 TNG. Enterprise suffers damage and Worf and Keiko are trapped and she's in labour. If you youtube "Worf Keiko Birth" you'll see the scene - it's quite comic. "You have dilated to 20cm. You may now give birth." (Keiko yells at him). Or just watch Disaster, actually, it's a pretty cool episode. O'Brien, Ro, Keiko and minor characters feature quite a bit.

[@xellestar]

Worf's "now?!" is hilarious when you know this part

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

The episode where Worf delivers Molly is called Disaster and it's a good one- worth a watch! We got to see Sisko yell at Worf again! Always a treat. It's weird, we got a Sisko episode with Kira and a Worf episode with Sisko but no Kira. We need more Dax! Where's my little slug? Oh man. You're doing To The Death AND The Quickening on the same day? Ollie... you'll need a sedative. Maybe drink some NyQuil before watching so you don't burst. If you haven't already seen the TNG episode Contagion, you should watch it before watching To The Death. SO many great episodes coming up! (No spoilers, guys!)

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

The actor who plays Garek did initially portray him as having an "interest" in Bashir - Andrew Robinson (who is straight btw) is very open about it.

[@fakecubed]

A spy recruiting an asset is very much like a seduction. Don't read anything more into it than that.

[@jordanbridges]

Garek was into women.

[@Amamizu82]

11:58 I'm so glad you said this! I've always thought it was great word-play, considering the emphasis on both concepts from their cultures

[@xellestar]

ds9 just had banger after banger episodes

[@jackdubz4247]

They were never all that popular with general audiences but I did love the Emissary/Prophet-centric episodes of DS9.

[@williamjackson6705]

All the characters in DS9 are well rounded and Keiko is one of them. Not only one of the best Trek series but one of the best shows to ever be on television. Keep watching. There's more to Sisko than you know.

[@EvanG529]

Worf LITERALLY delivered Keiko's first baby. That's why he was so taken aback when Quark announced it to him. The episode is Disaster from TNG.

[@jordanbridges]

The kid literally addressed this episode.

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

34:30 - "Do you open fire?" - There's two answers to this. There's the real world answer - yes. This is combat - of course you do. In Starfleet however - they do have a rule - it's mentioned in Voyager and TNG I think - Starfleet do NOT under ANY circumstances, start a fight. Ever. Down to niggly things like this - Worf did not in fact know that was a bird of prey. It likely was. But he was not sure. He did not know 100% that that was a target. And under Starfleet rules - which do extend to the point that a ship is better lost in combat, than starting a new war or something (Starfleet personnel are expected to lay down their lives for this) - Worf fired carelessly. Remember this is Starfleet. How many times in TNG has the Enterprise come under attack, they've refused hails, they keep firing, and after 30 seconds, Worf says "Captain I recommend we fire a torpedo!" and then Picard says "No! That could be seen as aggressive. But warn them we'll return fire if they continue!"... (only for Troi to pipe up with "Captain, I'm sensing hostility." I'm only half joking. In The Best of Both Worlds, it takes the Borg tractoring the enterprise and completely draining shields before Picard says to open fire. Luckily, in Rules of Engagement, it was all a scam and so no harm done. but that's the technicality they're trying to get him under. IRL of course you would open fire - and O'Brien is answering correctly - the question was not "would you open fire if you were in his position?" it was "Do you agree (yes/no) with his decision to open fire when he was not 100% sure what the target was". O'Brien cannot answer "yes" to that because that's against Starfleet rules. Lawyers, eh?

[@fakecubed]

The Federation has been at peace for too long. They've become soft and stupid. You would think the Borg would have been a bigger wake-up call but they beat them with some scifi bullshit and went right back to their soft and stupid ways.

[@EnsignAhkinum]

Yes, the episode is called "Disaster" and is one of my favorites from TNG, with everyone stuck around the ship when it loses power. Keiko and Worf stuck together, and Dianna Troi in charge on the bridge. 😁 Everyone gets a nice little story in this episode. I hope you watch it, since it has be years for me, and I would like to see it again.

[@MrDeathpilot]

Why would you tell him all about an episode he hasn't seen yet? Now he doesn't even need to watch it! WHY? 🤨 WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[@EnsignAhkinum]

@@MrDeathpilot why would you be rude to someone you don't know online? Unless you learn how not to do that, I can't, won't, answer you. 😄 I can't believer there are so many jerkoffs like this that watch Trek.

[@beyonderbill3409]

Accession is one of my favorite episodes. Sisko acknowledges his role as Emissary. LOVE IT! Also: I LOVE throwing darts. Cricket is my shit.

[@silikon2]

You cut the line here, but I loved that the poet very quickly realized Winn was afraid of The Sisko. And Kira saying they would do literally anything The Sisko asked was wild. It's a great line, and super sobering. The Sisko had no idea the power he wields. The script was careful to state that previously incomplete writings by the Poet were completed, showing he indeed went back. Because it easily could look like The Sisko just offed the guy.

[@jerodast]

Haha, I never realized that the completed writings were partly there for that reason; the "uhh so that guy you took into the nutso hole in space just never came back, huh?" is sort of iconic to me in this episode 😂 So I guess EVERYONE familiar with Bajoran literary history has a double memory now...

[@silikon2]

@@jerodast It was very deftly done. They covered that base that some viewers might have caught (including Odo) without making a huge deal of it because it wasn't the story they were telling.

[@jonbolton3376]

I recommend TNG episode 'Disaster'. It's relevant, and one of my favourites.

[@MrDeathpilot]

4:03 "It wouldn't be that bad, would it? Ha ha!" 😂 We found out, didn't we?

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

11:02 Then it is a good thing Sisco was always very careful about what he asked of them.

[@MrDeathpilot]

CONTINUITY & PRODUCTION PROBLEMS ACCESSION (IMDb Rating: 7.3) 3:20 The only goof listed, is when Dax says (offscreen), "Really? I think I'd like it", the close captioning says" I'll have to take your word for it". This seems to have been corrected on my DVD. RULES OF ENGAGEMENT (IMDb Rating: 7.4) 29:30 Much of this battle footage comes from "Sons of Mogh". 30:44 Sisko has been suddenly demoted to a Commander according to his rank pips. He gets promoted again during the next commercial break.

[@silikon2]

The Accession: *finally* another episode about The Sisko being The Sisko, and what a banger. It felt like they all but dropped the overt religious angle of The Sisko but I thought it was the most interesting element of the show.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Dropped it? No , it was there. I agree it was one of the best parts of the episode. 😄

[@JeffreyCantelope]

State of mind is admissable in certain situations

[@MrDeathpilot]

DS-9 HODGEPODGE TOTEBOARD (From the Nitpickers Guide For DS-9 Trekkers) WARNING: Contains trivial spoilers so insignificant, they don't even matter. 1. Number of times Sisko plays with his baseball: 13 2. Number of times we see Odo shape-shift: 36 3. Number of times Quark reacts with a drink in his mouth: 4 4. Number of characters who first appeared in STNG: 10 5. Number of times someone fires upwards on the station and no chickens fall: 2 6. Number of episodes where someone yells "DABO!": 15 7. Number of times we see someone with a Jumja stick: 7 8. Number of times Quark takes a dig at current-day businesses: 4

[@rockmanrespect]

Accession is The Sisko beginning to accept his role as The Emissary and I love it.

[@baronvg]

Lmfao of course his lines about them kissing is a joke. And yes, it annoyed me too but I still know it’s a joke and can learn to just let it go 😂 I certainly never dropped mean comments. Let’s be civilized, y’all.

[@trekkiejunk]

See, if you had actually watched TNG, you would have laughed at one of the funniest gags in DS9 history.... Worf saying "NOW???" when he hears Keiko is going to have another baby.

[@fakecubed]

And while he's in another bar, too.

[@dargron7614]

I utterly love that this joke exists - that they got the opportunity to do it, and that they took full advantage of that opportunity. At the time they made "Disaster", they were building up O'Brien's character in preparation for DS9, and it was very likely that soon Worf and the O'Briens would never be on screen together again. The odds of Molly's birth and Worf's Godfatherhood ever being followed up on seemed non-existent. This gag should have been non-existent, but here we are, 4-5 years later, Worf is on DS9 and it has come full circle. Serendipity!

[@tofersiefken]

I wonder if Garak gets jealous of Bashir spending so much time with O'Brien. It seems like Garak has taken a back-seat recently.

[@zatoichi1]

Garak's always playing the long game.

[@tofersiefken]

@@zatoichi1 It could be that Garak's evasiveness caused Julian to lose interest. (And Leeta has caught his attention as well.) With O'Brien they can just hang out without tension hanging in the air.

[@michealoceallaigh4716]

I recommend a double bill of TNG E5 "Disaster" and the following episode "The Game" Molly seemed to age a couple of years fast, my explanation: sometime early season 6 Clann O'brien got stranded on a planet where time moved fast and by the time the Enterprise-D crew rescued them a couple of years passed (or Q was up to his old tricks again)

[@Will-nn6ux]

The Defiant is a *proper* starship! 😂

[@nicholasregan6526]

11:26-27 wow what a transition in scene, old school filming tactics

[@TYANTOWERS]

I don't consider the advocate defenseless. He is a Klingon and Worf didn't have a weapon. If it was a child or a non-Klingon, I don't think Worf would have attacked.

[@richlisola1]

As if the Klingons have any rules of engagement besides winner take all-In The Way Of The Warrior, the lack of Klingon war ethics was highlighted. I find the entire premise for The Rules of Engagement episode to be faulty.

[@jerodast]

The whole context is very strange. IMO it doesn't stand up at _all_ to the other Star Trek "courtroom" episodes - not even the Cardassian courtroom haha. Like, these two factions have broken their treaty and are in a low key war with each other, why are they even entertaining an extradition request? I guess it's another "it's the Federation and they're just so pure they'll even listen to legal arguments from people shooting them" justification... hard to relate to. On the flip side..."isn't it possible?" is a _wildly_ tenuous legal argument to hang your climax on. Would've preferred the judge see the evidence that there were no victims and dismiss the case immediately than the silly nonsense showdown "on the stand."

[@fakecubed]

This is basically Star Trek: Law and Order.

[@Echo4Bravo]

Roly, can you watch "Meld" Star Trek Voyager. It's just a great Vulcan episode. Brad Dourif "the voice of Chucky." One off preview with no major spoilers.

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

42:30 other directors to look out for in DS9: Michael Dorn (Worf) Avery Brooks (Sisko) Rene Auberjonois (Odo) Alexander Siddig (or Siddig El Fadil - full name Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abdurrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi - depending on name he's using) (Bashir) Andrew Robinson (Garek)

[@quoniam426]

You missed TNG episode of season 5 Disaster when the Enterprise was in the deep sh^t and Keiko was having her baby in Ten Forward with Worf as an emergency deliverer... That's why Worf says "now?" when Quark says that she's gonna have a baby. Feeling guilty for something that might have gone wrong is what aviators call the "Just culture". Owning your mistakes to catalog them so as much yourself as others wouldn't do that same mistake again because one does not live long enough to make all the mistakes possible.

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

30:20 - I'd hate for the Klingon Empire to see my game history on Stellaris - I've wiped out entire galaxies before!

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Enjoy your vacation, Oliver! Is it the kind of trip Huxley was able to join you on? 🖖 Les Landau and LeVar Burton, as you noticed, directed these. 🔸 The actor who played Bajoran poet 'Akorem Laan' was Richard Libertini. I sincerely hope you'll one day react to him in ALL OF ME (1984), one of the best comedies of its era. It stars Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin... but Mr. Libertini has a scene-stealing role as the fish-out-of-water mystic called 'Prahka Lasa'.

[@Eva_H]

If you think Ascension is a good episode, you really should hear his speech in the season five finale, which really gives Creedence And how much character development Sisko has up to that point.

[@MackerelCat]

You should def watch the TNG episode Disaster Ollie, it is an absolute classic!!

[@plainsimpledav946]

".... they both like profits." lmao

[@jerodast]

Fun fact, Voyager would air "False Profits" making that same pun later the same the year as these episodes :P

[@markbade565]

One of the production snafus in rules of engagement; for much of the episode, sisko was missing a PIP on his dress uniform. That always bugs me every time I see it.

[@fakecubed]

I don't understand why the actors don't notice that sort of thing when they get into costume.

[@jerodast]

@@fakecubed I imagine you don't actually see your own pips much once you've got the costume on. But it is funny he references the pip directly in the script in this one, but still didn't catch it...

[@ericrinehart477]

Don't worry about the jokes just be you even the team behind ds9 discuss about LGBT comments on what they could have done better

[@jerodast]

I have watched every reaction to DS9 on this channel and I truly don't understand how anyone could get upset about joking about the Bash'brien bromance haha. Or the Garshir slightly-more-intense-than-a-bromance! It's been what, like 3-4 comments like that in the whole series? Is that not a pretty typical joke when two people have an especially emotional conversation? What are you all afraid of :P

[@kirishima638]

ISN’T. IT. POSSIBLE?

[@okankyoto]

ITS A cLoCk!

[@jerodast]

Good meme. Terrible courtroom argument :P @@okankyoto And yeah IT'S A CLOCK! is my favorite by far, even though it's harder to find a reason to use it day to day haha

[@JazzyWaffles]

People who make rude comments about you jokingly saying characters should kiss can heck off. Also: O'Brien and Bashir SHOULD kiss. Genuinely. Come at me, homophobes.

[@empirejeff]

Worf getting off in a technology.

[@607995]

technicality also, not really.

[@jerodast]

I thought you were talking about Worf's time in the holosuite for a second there haha

[@martinfehringer6408]

As a gay dude I understand your jokes about Bahir+Garak and Bashir+O'Brien totally. I get the vibe and can sense it, too. You're a handsome young man, too and I love watching you divinging into Star Trek, the franchise I love the most since I was 10

[@Whologin]

DS9 is the best Trek. Lets hope we can get more in the future with A.I. actors. The Sisko must return.

[@wrdreacts4247]

Admittedly, two episodes I usually skip in my rewatches. But, I'll watch your watch. They are very well done episodes, just not as enjoyable as so many of the others.

[@sasamichan]

yes, hat was an episode

[@sarahbembry7512]

See you should of watch more Next Gen because u missed worf help keiko give birth to molly

[@jordanbridges]

Caste systems are still a thing, sadly.

[@ahib_hayaathi]

bro react manjummel boys , watch in original language Malayalam

[@deckofcards87]

I love this show, but honestly the Bajorans are my least favorite part about it. The Prophet beings themselves are interesting, and Kira's alright, but the other's are boring and wooden. Not their back story, just the characters themselves.

[@garfnob4832]

also two man can kiss. if you have a problem with it, that is your problem. stop trying to make it other peoples problem. Worf did not attack a defenseless person. he engaged in hand to hand combat. they where equally armed.

[@jerodast]

I would even go so far as to say Worf was being attacked by the lawyer and he was defending himself quite reasonably given the context. The "civilian ship" didn't send a string of hails insulting his family before decloaking haha.

[@empirejeff]

Morn is into the ladies?

[@fakecubed]

Of course he is. And more importantly, they're into him.

[@empirejeff]

That was an episode.

[@silikon2]

Rules of Engagement: weird style, not my bag but at least they tried something different. The trial is so weird because it's obviously just a standard (dramatic tv style) American trial with alien faces glued onto the actors. It really didn't click to me that the Klingon prosecutor acted basically like an American prosecutor. Mostly I just found it boring though. If you hadn't seen all the TNG it could be fresher. But I saw this first run and eventually despised Worf in DS9 and wished he hasn't been added. That humorous moment in Ascension? Embrace it, because that's one of the few TNG Worf moments you'll get. Worf in DS9 is almost all wangst and whinge almost all the time. I literally decided DS9 Worf is a different character than TNG Worf, despite being the same actor and having the same history.

[@cuba8188]

I love star trek deep space 9 almost as much as next gen (my favorite show of all time) but that woman cakehole is so darn annoying! She always has this face like she is smelling something rotten and is always giving my boy chief a hard time! My least fav character by far... I wish there was much less cakehole more garek and quark!