Romanced Gale Won't Let Tav Sacrifice Themself [End Game] | Baldur's Gate 3

[@nurselaykan3721]

Man. That heavy pause and the way he visibly deflates before bringing up the orb. You can tell that was the last thing Gale wanted to say.

[@river8783]

I took psychic damage from that.

[@GrimmHooke]

The heavy pause is what always gets me. Phenomenal work from the writing, voice acting, and animation.

[@samuelfoster914]

The fact they animated and got the facial expressions right. I felt more than words could ever say

[@yurabbityu]

And, he actually wanted to live...for you. But to know what will happen to you, he'd rather die. 🥹

[@avocadothecat]

​@@river8783 me too man... me too. He's too precious. I physically can't bring myself to harm him. This is harder than Undertale genocide run. Idk if it's good or bad that a non real thing in a videogame makes me feel strong enough to not want to end it.

[@SailorMiMi770]

"You can't sacrifice yourself if I sacrifice myself first." Gale this is not the way to go about things 😅

[@twohorsesinamancostume7606]

There is a difference though. Whoever becomes a mindflayer has their soul destroyed and it's not like you're even still you. You're just a Mindflayer with the memories of whoever it transformed from, who you are is literally annihilated. If Gale detonates the orb he's still himself even if he is dead. His soul will stay intact.

[@XxYldikoxX]

well sound logic haha

[@keetard]

​Haha, not really. The Karsite orb would vacuum his soul and he would cease to exist in any shape or form.​@@twohorsesinamancostume7606

[@harchierplebbington9397]

Karlach will also just decide to die and Wyll will not convince her otherwise if tav isn’t present, taking your own life after transforming is seriously upping the body count

[@ManubibiWalsh]

Literallyyyyyyyy 😂😂😂

[@generallyuseless5821]

I find it so funny and sweet that gale is one of the only romance options that don't care if you transform. If you become illithid, everything continues between you like it's a minor bump on the road. While most everyone else has to be convinced to stay with you.

[@vault18starplayerandenclav8]

I think its because he knows that it will essentially kill you.

[@kousiksarkar9627]

Minthara?

[@generallyuseless5821]

@@kousiksarkar9627 I completely forgot about her 💀. I usually play as a good aligned character and haven't romanced her, even after the update where you can recruit her without slaughtering the Grove. Is she also good with it? Might have to give her route a try.

[@generallyuseless5821]

@vault18starplayerandenclav8 Not necessarily. I know there's something special about gnomes and ceremorphosis. Where they keep their memories and personality. Hasn't been added yet but Larian has hinted to it being added soon. So if you play gnome best of both worlds lol. Additionally, if you have arcane talent, you can resist the hive mind effect. Like Omeleum. And keep your pre-transformation personality. The only risk is being caught in the orbit of another elder brain.

[@fatterperdurabo42069]

​@@generallyuseless5821arcane mindflayers don't keep their personality and aren't even necessarily produced from arcanists. They are just mind flayers with an unusual connection to the Weave, it has no correlation with the host. Omeluum is not the person its tadpole was inserted into, it explicitly only thinks of itself as an illithid.

[@starojunes]

"-swords, spells and sweat" Lol I do love his use of alliteration.

[@Amazatastic]

He is a poet after all !

[@Peytoneileen]

And he’s made multiple comments about how he likes our “musk” and things it’s super attractive (and arousing) to see sweat glistening on our muscles after battle…

[@redvintner1094]

Gale is ride or die… literally

[@arstollendi5673]

Ride and die

[@Ova-bv4os]

Hes also the only romance companion thst fully accepts your illithid form at the end game. You get the same dialogue about moving to waterdeep and taking his name. Everyone else has some sort of negative/ connotations. Even wyll, who basically says "ill still love you but not publicly. you gotta lock yourself up somewhere secret. Ill visit you though."Like thats pathetic. Gale is just straight up aight behbeh lets head to my home town and get hitched, show me what dem tentacles do lol

[@redvintner1094]

He’s literally more worried about the logistics of planning a wedding than the fact that you’re a mind flayer! That’s a keeper.

[@galaxychar]

Minthara does too :) If Tav says “I’m a monster” she says “So am I” etc and is completely happy to be with you.

[@Ova-bv4os]

@@galaxychar she's the only one I havnt gotten as I can't bring myself to do what is necessary lol. I just can't do an evil play through. Even a "redemptive" one

[@puchalamanca]

Karlach is also ok with it

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

@@Ova-bv4os If you play on PC get the Good Minathara Mod.

[@noppa2690]

i love him, he's my little fantasy hozier.

[@prinsauce]

THAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE HOW DID IT NOT OCCUR TO ME?! Now I love him even more.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

You just opened my third eye

[@OddlyElly]

Omg! That's who be looks like! It's been bugging me all year but I couldn't connect 😅😂

[@faithsspam]

UR SO REAL FOR THAT

[@fenrisares]

My poor boi Gale, always tries to please everyone by sacrificing himself, little does he know, that I'd rather see Faerun burn to ashes, then my princess to die 🌟

[@saal0]

He is my wife ❤❤❤

[@garycannon4644]

@@saal0 *husband*

[@MammalianCreature]

@@garycannon4644 Don't police their speech, commie

[@FucksGaleprofessionally69]

​@@garycannon4644 none wife is right hes my male wife house husband

[@garycannon4644]

@@FucksGaleprofessionally69 hes your what? lol

[@pandacherry2858]

that little sad sigh alone makes me want to burn the world for him 😭

[@joshkorte9020]

"Hey, you didn't let me blow myself up earlier, I'm not letting you do that now."

[@WeAreTheHeroes434]

Honestly, bought this game for Astarion, stayed for Gale, can't romance anyone else, he truly is the sweetest.

[@cennix]

Same exact thing happened to me 😂

[@medrastica]

Same here. Saw Astarion on IG, watched a romance playthrough, liked his story arch and bought game. And now? I love gale and I think Astarion is a pain in the ass. Still love him, still gonna save the little vampire life and soul, but Gale is my maaaan.

[@WeAreTheHeroes434]

@@medrastica Don't get me wrong I still adore Astarion and he's my bff in every playthrough, but as a partner Gale is my go to, just adorable.

[@lilysyahirah]

Sameeeee. Bought the game bc of Astarion, played till the end w Gale ❤

[@margaesperanza]

My first run was about Astarion and I felt unsatisfied? Taste wise it wasn’t for me, and his ascended version was awful, made me feel like a nasty towel by the end hahaha. When I went for Gale in my 2nd play through I was squealing and kicking my feet in the air. Even the kissing animations were precious!

[@ManubibiWalsh]

“Nonono, see, I’M the kamikaze guy here. Get another role in the party, I got to it first!”

[@loserinasuit7880]

"I'm already preparing the orb, you can't become a squid now."

[@JustMe-qd5ml]

This happens if you just have high approval too. I maxed out our approval but never did anyromantic scenes with him (I romanced Karlach) and had this same conversation. I love this scene it's very well done.

[@mandymarg_]

Omg this is the the third time I've heard someone say "I want to live" (or something very close to it) in the game and it makes me emotional because it makes me think of the song by the same name off of the OST. So far I've heard Karlach say it in her final cutscenes as she's burning up, the narrator says something similar in reference to Tav having the right to live as an illithid after all you've done, and now Gale 😭 That song fits so well with the party it makes me so emotional listening to it

[@leila13dnd]

There needs to be an option to just tell the Emperor and Orpheus to get their shit together and then blaze through the brain in a glorious fight. It can be hard but I would love the option because it's exactly what my Tav would want to do: fight on her own terms, fully believing that together they can win and that any other conflicts can be solved later.

[@ni9274]

That would be the best option, a good redemption for the Emperor since the guy seem incapable of thrusting the protagonist.

[@Observer675]

I'd like to recruit Omeleum, especially if you rescue him in act 3

[@panampace]

I thought I’d get some dialog to convince the emperor to agree with me freeing Orpheus but nope, you take one whack with the hammer and he’s like “guess I’m evil now”

[@MaddyBlu9724]

You dont have to romance him for this conversation. I got the exact same one in my playthrough where I didnt romance him

[@VisibleNemo]

To be fair, you don’t need to romance Gale for him to think you’re in a relationship lol

[@Deadpan_Snarker]

@@VisibleNemo As much as I love Gale, my man feels like Anders 2.0 - even if I romance someone else, I feel like he has a crush on us either way, if we have a good relationship with him.

[@candiedcrusader7841]

@@Deadpan_Snarker Its fucked up how in patch 1 just talking to him nicely gets him into your pants during the party.

[@kevwox]

@@candiedcrusader7841that’s just how the party works. It’s free romance night, it’s a launchpad to start your romance if you haven’t started one yet

[@TheDelethar]

@@candiedcrusader7841the man slept with a goddess, he’s just a horny lad

[@65firered]

He's come some way from "Mystra is great!".

[@beccazach]

Just like Shadowheart and Lae-zel with their deities. Religious trauma and manipulation run rampant with these companions :')

[@65firered]

@@beccazach Then again they weren't asked to blow themselves up

[@khalassword7885]

@@65firered True, Gale at least had the choice to die in a noble sacrifice, while Lae'zel just dies to fuel Vlaakith, honourlessly and gets her very soul consumed and Shadowheart becomes an eternal slave to a god of darkness and evil. Mystra asks much of Gale, but at least he's getting something out of it, unlike those two.

[@Remi-ri7io]

@@khalassword7885something how? Ur asking a man who was suicidal to begin with and depressed and felt like he had no reason to live cus he sucked, to kys just when he started appreciating his life and loving it and wanting to live again, and calling it “noble” mystra is being a petty bitch for a relationship that was toxic from the start (hint: Gale wasn’t the one who made it toxic), she has MANY other ways of curing to orb or stopping the absolute, she just chose the one that would stroke her ego. Also apparently if gale dies his soul or something goes to mystra so that’s even more gross

[@thecheck968]

1:27 is practically a title drop with how prevalent that song is throughout the game. Which makes it so tragic that after romanticizing his own death for half the game, he finally admits it only when offering to die.

[@Goose-j7y]

He’s really the absolute sweetest despite starting off as a cocky little nerd who’s not over his ex 😭

[@Remi-ri7io]

He’s not I not e with mystra by the beginning, yes he’s still thinking about her but given how he feels he greatly wronged her and How she groomed him, I’m not in the least bit suprised. It does disgust me how the game tries to paint gale as the the one in fault for their relationship being toxic or whatever bc of one mistake as if she isn’t the immortal all knowing goddess in the situation and also the fact that they have gale praising his relationship with mystra constantly sounding like one of those men who slept with a teacher/adult woman in high school or something and can’t seem to realize how he’s a victim.

[@RealKengeki]

I love the physics on his sleeve at the end

[@yennhivo3103]

"You need not die alongside me" oh Gale 😢💔

[@kaykj207]

i got so scared when he said we should reconsider. i thought i couldn’t convince him. i almost cried

[@gamester512]

Luckily it's not a Romanced Alistair situation from Dragon Age Origins if you didn't take Morrigan's bargain before confronting the Archdemon. A romanced Alistair doesn't give you the option to talk him down in that instance. Gale does.

[@CorruptedDivinity]

@@gamester512I’m still traumatised after Alistair shagging Morrigan while I romanced him

[@IneffableChild]

You can also get this dialogue non-romanced if you have really high approval. I got this in my honor run ( I had 100 approval), proceeded to fight the brain, then got my golden dice. That's why I always tell my companions to shut up cause I'm dragging all of us to a redemption arc 😂

[@yurabbityu]

Wish it went... Tav: "You'd sacrifice yourself for us?" Gale: "Not for them...for you. Ok maybe and a bit of Astarion, that git has also grown with me. Kidding aside, I would rather sacrifice myself than you sacrifice yours." This man gives me more and more reason to love him. 💕❤

[@allamericanpsycho]

I adore him 😭

[@technology5979]

I'm getting Alistair flashbacks.

[@JanaSzIsBasicGlitch]

Awww❤️ Gale is the bestest character ❤️

[@henrywebb3009]

The more I play this the more Im seeing Gale as an MVP

[@ravensky2]

He always gives his all for those he loves 🥰

[@aistisnarmontas4515]

Damn reminds me of myself. Better to sacrifice yourself so your life in the end would have a meaning. Than see your loved one to die.

[@saal0]

Noble, but also get therapy and practice self love. Which one of your parents made you feel like you were only worthy of their love when you accomplished something? (Kidding…?)

[@gamester512]

Reminds me of a comment related to Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and how he failed to save Padme: "How do you save the one you love? You sacrifice yourself instead." As it says in the Bible: "No greater love has a man, than to lay down his life for his friend."

[@mackenziesherry4894]

​@@saal0actually.. 😐 I personally think, when someone rather die for the one they love instead of seeing their lover dying, it's a selfish thought. 🙄 Bcus think about it, die will always be easier than moving on after being left by someone we love.

[@ezraoberheim1081]

"Noo haha you're so hot don't turn into a mind flayer" "But I am going to blow up myself and all of us with the nuke in my chest"

[@MoonsongReverb]

Execactly, he even said that if i didn't romance him It's cruel to do that to a romanced Gale, though. I didn't. Due to the bugs on him in act 3 i was worried, things wouldn't work. Patch 4 was really horrible to Gale and still half off aöö the bugs aren't fixed with Hotfix 10 So in my last playthrough, i picked Orphues's side and Karlach became a Mindflayer. Gale went through so much in LIfe, he deserves a healthy ending, as wholesome as possibe. Karlach, as a MIndflayer even says, she gets to live and to stay as she always wanted So yeah, faced to the choice, i chose to spare Gale this conversation. The neredy proposal scene was also sweeter while -not- one of the two is a Mindflayer. Just my 2 cents :D

[@firestorm165]

Wait you can do that? When I released Orphious it was either me or him, didn't give me the option to volunteer Karlach for flayer duty

[@MoonsongReverb]

@@firestorm165 Yes, it worked for me. Karlach has to be in your party, when you free Orpheus, though. So my final party for the finale at that time was: Karlach, Lae'zel, Gale and my Mystran Bard/Cleric When talking to Orpheus, i used the "I'm not becoming a Mindflayer-...." Option . Then Karlach stepped up and was like "Wait! It should be me...". She then explains that she's dying and asked me to let her be the Mother F***** who saves the world, literally. :D So i went with that and that is the only way you can "save" her, if you don't want her to die or go back to Avernus. Gale can keep his partner without being condemned to Tentacle romance for the rest of his life Two birds - one stone :D I hope it helps ;)

[@lieselstrick]

​@@MoonsongReverbit really helped. I spend some time crying over Karlachs death. Why did the writers had to be so mean, it left me heartbroken. And another round of crying when whisters tells you that the dead soul Karlach didn't want to join the party. The end was a lot

[@MoonsongReverb]

@@lieselstrick That is the worst ending Karlach can have, yes. As a Mindflayer. Karlach will be at the party. But i mostly asked Orpheus if he was willing to transform and he did. I feel the same, i want to have an ending as happy as possible for everyone. Damnit Larian, give Karlach a real happy ending option in the matierial plane finally!

[@Elfprincess_]

Its sweet that you can say it will end yourself too if he decided to blew himself up 😭 cuz that’s how i feel when i hear him say stuff like this. Id rather become ilithid than let him die 😢 i can’t bear it.

[@spragette5095]

Ya, know wonder why we dont get the option to blow up ourselves with Gale. Lmao XD You both go out with a boom. But also that could be really sad ending.

[@JamesBuggemo]

Non romanced Gale says this, too.

[@zerrrp]

woah your tav is cool af

[@tumainivt]

the last part! my boi gaaale! silly in times of strife!!

[@Shroomic-ug4ej]

Oh how the turntables...

[@susankreber]

I got this scene with him (well, some words differed - it was Orpheus who asked us to turn) without him even being romanced (but at 100 % approval). I was very moved, because literally no one else (including my romanced companion) had anything to say here, so it seemed like no one but Gale gave a damn whether Tav transformed into a mindflayer or not :D I returned the favour and told him "Absolutely not" on the orb use, and then had Orpheus turn into a mindflayer :D No one touches my sweet wizard bro

[@tosina2946]

Completely unrelated but I need this outfit for Gale

[@malkaveean]

“basket full of equipment” on nexus mods, it also has plenty of other great outfits!

[@alekzanderor5489]

its somewhere in the tower with lorrokan (act 3, nightsong and gale quest leads there)

[@JasonAstraea]

I hate it.

[@marzipom5630]

​@@JasonAstraeathank you for your input, Jason. We were all wondering what your thoughts were on this outfit.

[@snowdrop9810]

I keep wondering if the Emp could have recruited Orpheus to help shield him, rather than well, nom nom.

[@henryknippling2408]

There’s no universe where Orpheus doesn’t kill emperor on site or immediately after the netherbrain dies. Orpheus would consider it a service and just punishment for not freeing him immediately upon discovering him. Emperor is many things manipulative being highly among them. But he was right to not trust Orpheus with his life. Sadly it pushed him to the losing side anyway,

[@arcmen2275]

He has the mind of a ghaik. He fear Orpheus as they all do. Orpheus is angry and rightly so, but he set it aside because he know the need for a mind as powerful as an ilithid to combat the nether brain.

[@mona-elf]

I'm pretty sure that Orpheus would kill Emperor. It's not just because Emperor is Illithid. He's also humilated Orpheus by enslaving him and using his power. Just remember, when our babies free Orpheus he's accusing them, for not allowing his guards kill them and threatens that he will not forget what was done to him. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, he's a decent man, but with very harsh view on morals.

[@WaterZer0]

​@@mona-elfThe Emperor did not create the Astral Prism; Raphael did. The Emperor just finds it and decides to stay inside and fight off the Honor Guard trying to free Orpheus. Vlaakith made a deal with Raphael for the Prism which you can find on a Githyanki tablet thingy inside the Prism.

[@mona-elf]

​@@WaterZer0thank you for the information 🤗 I didn't mean that the Emperor trapped Orpheus in a prism, I meant that he's using him like a slave, manipulating his power. For people who used to be a slaves and desperately fought for freedom it's a big insult

[@Slappap]

I'd rather let the world burn. then make him use that orb. Is there an option to stay there with him if he does use it? Bc I'm not letting best boi go out alone.

[@masha3238]

My thoughts exactly! I wish that was an option, best ending I'd say.

[@lethe.archive]

I usually completely skip this convo because it triggers to me the most depressing argument right before the netherbrain (unlike in this convo where he will agree with you and seem determined at the end, in that convo he will say you’re making a mistake by continuing the fight. it’s really upsetting honestly if you’re really attached to him.) but for rp reasons I did it on a recent playthrough and god it hurt me so much. his sigh before saying we should reconsider the orb.

[@laurenjcoates]

Your tav is so beautiful

[@ZooZwaves]

Where did you get such beautiful clothes for gale?

[@hollune]

It's the Robe of the Weave from Ramazith's Tower in Act 3! With Boreal Blue Dye I believe

[@combinecommando001]

At least his sacrifice doesn't consume his soul and it redeems his previous actions in the eyes of Mystra and likely gets to stick with her. Out of all the outcomes, this seems like the best option, at least if someone HAS to die or lose their soul, this is definitely the best option. Even if Karlach prefers to die rather than go to Avernus, at least she has a soul and it's free from Zariel's clutches. Hopefully there will be an update that allows for an ending that doesn't require the death of someone or the loss of their soul but achieving it should be difficult.

[@alekzanderor5489]

Raphael comment that Gales body and soul were erased from this plane of existance upon orb detination (you accepted the deal, but broke it, gale tries to become a god but fails ending)

[@Remi-ri7io]

Gale shouldn’t need to redeem himself to that PDF-file

[@HaNFnfnfnf]

damn I shouldvr romanced gale

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

Is this his default hair? It looks more tousled than I remember

[@hollune]

This is the Gale's Wizarly Updo Mod on Nexus :)

[@diegorodrigues9528]

I got this same dialogue while romancing Karlach. Also Karlach accepted pretty well my illithid form. Don't know why the comments say its only Gale.

[@redvintner1094]

Karlach offers to become a mind flayer; Gale offers to detonate the orb. Different sacrifices (both touching!).

[@anska7475]

I am curious, can you even use the orb so that no one has to become Illithid? I avoided all orb conversations in my first play-through and when I suggested the option in my Gale Origin, it wasn't good enough for Orpheus.

[@chickenbacon5197]

yea, just tell orpheus you'll transform later, then run the Gale Option.

[@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man]

Yes, get the Orphic hammer from Raphael either by stealing it or making a deal with him

[@anska7475]

@@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man Freeing Orpheus isn't the issue. When suggesting the bomb as a solution to him, he thought it to be unreliable - as did the Emperor before since Gale already hesitated using it once before.

[@anska7475]

@@chickenbacon5197Interesting, I didn't see that option in my run. oO

[@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man]

@@anska7475 oops I completely misread this comment lmao, sorry :)

[@laurenjcoates]

Which outfit are you wearing?

[@hollune]

I'm using the Basket Full of Equipment NSFW mod and I believe this is the 'Breezy' version of Gortash's outfit with a bralette in the neck slot!

[@TheHyperVampire]

How do you get this ending?

[@hollune]

When the Emporer tells you he needs the stones because an illithid has to control them, ask if you can become one instead. I was in a romance with Gale here, but I think it also works with high friendship