NEW 250 PRADO REVIEW CITY CAR MEETS OFFROAD

[@jonwilson6077]

obligatory comment to support expensive film making

[@Ronny_Dahl]

haha much appreciated mate

[@BugbugAdventures]

dont forget to hit the upvote

[@GCTO239]

Respect, Ronny! Watched the whole video directly. Kudos...you are really pushing it to the max. Better car than I expected. Keep up the great work, mate!

[@goldfools5445]

Proves that for 99% of owners, it’s a capable car stock.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@goldfools5445 you're not taking into account Ronny is an above average driver a normy driving these tracks would give a very different result proving, it isn't a capable car for 99% of people it's an ok car for the skilled small group of experienced drivers out there the vid shows its silly to take it offroad

[@goldfools5445]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingmeaning 99% of drivers would never tackle tracks that severe.

[@craigparker4108]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing Exactly.

[@jerryfrench2981]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing A normy probably wouldn't have taken their stock vehicle up there... Probably have waited till they lifted it, put bigger wheels & better tyres on it & oh yes bash plates & sliders..

[@mazevx2451]

You're absolutely right here! People without skills get scared of these tracks anyway and for the rest it's already good. Actually quite impressive how capable it is in stock form

[@adampowell4867]

You definitely went further than the average user would. Seems more than capable for the average user. Will be awesome to see the 250 return to those tracks after suspension lift and protection. Cheers Ronny

[@brawn800]

I own a stock (for now) US spec gasoline LC250 just shy of 20k km on mine in 3 months of ownership. It's handled beautifully both on and off road. The cameras don't entirely replace a spotter but they sure make you get out far less when you're alone. Gas consumption has been good but the tank is still small IMO. It's been very sure footed and easy to take on level 6 roads (Onyx off-road scale). I saved money for much needed aftermarket underbody protection by skipping the first edition wait listed mark-up. Just waiting on the aftermarket to catch up with mods so I can start kitting it out.

[@tg_gaming6094]

@brawn800 I’ve got a few questions for you about his prado… Could I maybe send you my insta and ask you a few questions on it…? Thanks

[@Gary.Ramsay]

Great way to test it 👍 Bash gaurds needed!! I went from a lifted fzj80 on 35's to a new hilux, I've had to get used to hearing things hit the underside! First change was sliders and bash gaurds.

[@gaz8410]

Mrs Dahl: "RONNY!!! The shopping trolley now has a flappy wheel and pulls to one side!"

[@ragonesed]

For all the harsh critics of the 250 I have a 150 and found the clearance was shithouse too. I feel like if you’re doing any rutted out rocky driving a lift, bigger tyres and upgraded up body protection are a must

[@petertoms518]

2” lift and front protection plate would be good good start Ronny.

[@DongaExplores]

Great video Ronny. I think the direct lines and track comparisons with other vehicles is awesome, to see how different vehicles handle it. Should use it for every vehicle

[@RallyeX]

Love the honesty in your videos. You say what’s good and what’s bad and concede when you were wrong about something. I’m not a four wheeler but I’m looking for a car I can take into places my X5 shouldn’t go to do some camping. I’ve placed a deposit on an Altitude and your videos are only confirming my decision.

[@davidgomesdonascimento5463]

Awesome car, gets the job done for most the people and it can gets better with upgrades. Wish we had it at Brazil, only receiving fortuner here.

[@tedeganagondi]

U r the best in off road community and learned enermous things from you.Ty very much for everything i learned from u

[@Lyallthetime]

Thanks for that, it was great to see someone going properly off road in the new Prad-Oh.

[@jeffwarnerPHOTOcom]

Loving your videos here in the U.S. of putting your 250 to the test, @Ronny_Dahl! I spent 9 years in a 4Runner and have been telling people how much better the 250 is offroad in comparison, and your video shows exactly why: it keeps tires on the ground when many other vehicles start lurching. I really hope you install the OEM sliders and FE-style steel skid plates on your vehicle, and see what they can take (lots of people are complaining about them being inadequate). I went with 285/70r18 to get it off the ground a bit without having to mod the wheel wells in any way, and am personally not planning on lifting so as to retain the stock suspension articulation. Don't care so much how it 'looks', and I better not care so much how the gas 2.4 sounds, lol... Cheers to you and your crew for a great, enlightening video!

[@MegaGouch]

The more reviews I watch the more I'm convinced the best, and most capable (stock standard) soccer mom car is still (or was) the Discovery 4. Loving your content, definitely the best 4x4 content on KZbin.

[@PuddingReserve]

Toyota should have put full skid plates and rock rails on this trim like they did on my first edition in the US.

[@TJRshots]

Hell yeah cant wait for the lift and wheels

[@rob3518]

Great comprehensive test to show what after market gear is needed for true off roading.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

a great test to show why this car is not suitable offroad

[@AD28197]

​@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing well it is stock form. I would say it did this test adequately for what it is.

[@ramsin6938]

Great stuff Ronny ! Finally a real world test that's not biased 👍

[@Ovaworked4x4]

Ronny, not biased 😂😂😂

[@stevegordon-hall2732]

Not biased he only drives Toyota

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@Ovaworked4x4 imagine if the grenadier drove this bad when he tested it it would be a full song And dance on why not to buy it when l closed this video, I believe it was stuck on a rock guessing about 14k damage

[@chrisjustice9157]

Most people don’t fully test new vehicles in 4x4 mode. This was a more than fair, EXCELLENT Test . Great JOB !

[@kdogauch]

Great video. Looking like this LC achieved its goal - it’s the best on-road while still being able to do everything (and more) than I need for off-road from stock, given I take care on lines. The ability to lift and modify is always in the back pocket if I decide to trade in some on-road performance. Personally, I think it’s turning out to be the best all-rounder 4x4 to date ALL things considered on and off road.

[@Marvilalove]

This was so very well said, exactly what I think!

[@gavlewis]

Great to see you putting the car to the test! We did something similar to the stock protection of our Isuzu not long into owning it. It now has a set of proper underbody protection plates.

[@Johnny-lt5ib]

Thank you Ronny, this is exactly how I would’ve driven my 250 land cruiser if I had bought one. Good to see how it held up in these conditions.

[@Rob-r3x4f]

Finally some day to day good old Aussie use review. Usually don’t subscribe but find your reviews honest and without the bullshit 👍🍺🇦🇺

[@rostamr4096]

I wish we could get the diesel version here in the US...Great review, Love your channel

[@Marvilalove]

I have LC 2.8D First Ed. - it is awsome!

[@jeanmichaelc1]

Well, lack of clearance and bar work is something every stock car suffers from. Would it have been any different on a stock 80 series or GQ Patrol?

[@Harry_Gersack]

Fair point

[@husshardan3511]

Grenadier disagrees

[@colinboyd7779]

A stock Land Rover or Range Rover has plenty of clearance right off the showroom floor. Just press the button on the centre console.

[@husshardan3511]

Jeep Wrangler Rubicon disagrees. So does Ford Bronco. Or maybe you are comparing it to a Toyota RAV 4?

[@adamsfly6212]

The front bash plate looks like the one on my 5th Gen 4Runner and it's really just a brush guard. I use but don't abuse my machine but the front skid plate, as we call it in the US, ended up all beat up after a couple years of service. I ended up buying an aftermarket and it is vastly superior to the thin OEM. Thanks Ronny for the review.

[@robstone4537]

I am mainly a beach run and camping person, so I think the 250 is probably more than adequate. What I really want to know is can you fit a second battery?

[@joegrehan8608]

Thanks for the review Ronny. I’ve been waiting for the Prado to land in Aus before deciding between the 300 or Prado. After watching a few reviews It’s a pretty easy decision to make.

[@lorenzoronpedrique2952]

In the old traction system Atrac you could have the rear axle with Locker ON and the front axle the Atrac still working and you control the power manually with the accelerator.

[@Robert_Hermigua]

What a great video! It reminded me how it felt like to lay on the side with Hilux 10 years ago. Not an experience I'd like to repeat.

[@mdharrisuiuc]

9:57 It looks to me like there is still traction control on the front axle with the rear diff locked? That start/stop/start/stop rotation of the tire is the TC working.

[@tim9241]

Yeah likely just rear traction control disabled by diff lock

[@Ronny_Dahl]

was only momentary if you look closer at the front driver side wheel.

[@mdharrisuiuc]

​@@Ronny_Dahl Yea I see that; confuses me

[@Harry_Gersack]

​@@Ronny_Dahl no, watch the entire footage again. Everytime a front wheel lifts, it either keeps spinning the same speed as the other wheels or the TC slows it down. The moment you are referring to is where it had a little hiccup and took a moment to slow the wheel down. On all the other wheel lifts it just worked so good that it looked like the car has a front locker. Come on man, I know all you people are "bleh new tech, I don't like it" But in this comment section, and even in the one under the last video, there were people owners who guaranteed that it still uses the traction control with the lockers engaged. And your footage clearly shows that

[@Harry_Gersack]

​@@mdharrisuiuc That's where the TC had a little hiccup. But TC was on the entire time he had the rear locker engaged.

[@Far-Gene]

Respect your braveness with ruining your new car! Awesome video and comparison with 78 serious. I want to hear more about your 1000km service. Tell us what they say about your car condition after the hard off-road please👍🏻 that would be really nice information as well.

[@UserName-bj8sy]

Ok I think it's official this guy has the best knowledge, information and testing skills of 4wds!

[@jessb4535]

Considering its a straight out of the box soccer mums cars I think it did ok. Most 4wd need left and protection out of the box. 2inch lift 33s (hopefully they fit) some bar work and bash plates see how it goes then.

[@h.c1780]

Was thinking about taking my new 250 for 4wd today. Kinda lucky I didn't. Thanks for the vedio mate! Top notch!

[@stormvalestarabs]

Gotta say, what you just did with the vehicle, makes me want one more. I’m after a capable tourer/tow car with plenty of room and comfort. The new bells and whistle’s make it a more inviting prospect. Bash plate needs a tidy up but I’d rather hit that than what’s behind it!

[@Harry_Gersack]

@10:12 there was still some kind of crawl or traction control on. You can see it on multiples spots, where a lifted frontwheel normally would spin freely, this doesn't. At one point you can even see it spinning a little bit faster and then the brake slows the wheel down mid-air. Btw the crawl control in general looked absolutely top notch. I think this might be the best out there. I think the LandRover Discovery 3 (?) also had a really good system, especially for its time. But man what the Prado just did there was absolutely amazing, it almost looked like a vehicle with front, rear and center locking diffs. I'm blown away 😮

[@MichaelHopewell-d8v]

Mine is on order, but happy to see how well a stock version performed. Hoping you were excited with all the cup holders and arm rests ;)

[@naashuman5503]

Awesome and proper ability test! 🍻 👏🏻

[@pgilb70]

That plastic sill protector is actually a great design. Easily replaced, a bit flexible. Stops body getting damaged.

[@Ronny_Dahl]

yes 100% mate, so happy it had that strip. I think it was the only thing saving the paint

[@olithejimny]

Plus makes so much noise when you crush it that you'd going to hopefully hear and react in time before the actual panels/sills are damaged...

[@andreww1928]

Making a comment so Ronny makes more of these videos.

[@ascentoffroad]

If you have the rear locked and MTS selected. The front will still regulate wheelspin and apply brake to transfer power.

[@Harry_Gersack]

I saw it too. When he was comparing crawl control and "only lockers", you could clearly see how the crawl control apllied brake to slow down the wheels that were in the air. If it hadn't done that, the ride up that hill wouldn't have been that smooth. I hope he sees this, from my experience he's a bit blind for criticism, even though I always keep it factual and friendly

[@ascentoffroad]

@harry_gersack Yeah I have a 3G Tacoma with MTS and a 5G 4Runner with ATRAC(basically the same thing.). In the beginning I didn’t realize I had to select MTS while the rear was locked to get the MTS function on the front end. It basically applies the Crawl control traction control aspect without the automatic throttle input. It works super good. I still ended up putting an ARB air locker in the front of the Taco. No substitute for a real locker.

[@KGSmyl]

suspension lift kit will make a whole lot of difference offroading for sure mate :)

[@Maxime-ho9iv]

I'm quite impressed. But yea, rock sliders are now mandatory.

[@CaptainZedful]

Second obligatory comment to support expensive film making - thanks for the Vids mate, enjoy watching them.

[@primafacie6442]

Unfortunately it looks like Toyota got this car wrong for the high price point……prioritising aesthetic form over 4WD functionality……unless it’s meant to be another school run SUV. The Toyota range now needs a new revised FJ Cruiser for more realistic off-road capabilities.

[@Marvilalove]

My LC 2.8D First Ed. is awsome! Never gonna need to drive this kind of terrain, and if I do, simply lift 2”, bigger tyres side sliders and voilá!

[@macattack5691]

Still the best off-road based channel!

[@veneratedmortal4369]

It wasn't difficult to visually see the swaybar disconnected. I am surprised it made such a difference.

[@annnnonnymous]

Im quite interested to see how you modify your trolley into a suitable off-road machine. Good to see you actually test the vehicle, and push within reasonable limits.

[@craigquann]

That's definitely a fairly capable commuter car that you can use as a weekend touring vehicle.

[@Evoque786]

Common sense says , if you want to anything extreme , tyres and suspension would be upgraded accordingly with extra ride height. As a out of the box … prado 250 seems like a beast !!!!

[@taurota1554]

Thanks for sharing and taking us along

[@AJ29430]

Nice to see a Prado put to the test somewhere other than the ubiquitous school run

[@garviere]

Crawl control is just traction control except they’ve added an extra knob to control the throttle so you can take your foot off the gas and not stall. Basically a limited, finely adjusted hand throttle.

[@seanchristie7150]

Fantastic episode Ronny, great to see the short comings and where expectations are exceeded in a realworld situation. I am sure most of that damage will buff out 😂😂😂 Keep up the awesome work

[@CJ-yb8uw]

Awesome clip mate👍

[@ray9880]

Figure wouldn't take to long to get some damage. Can see a lift and rock sliders in the future. Can't wait for the next off road challenge.

[@davidmurphy2960]

Awesome work! I'd suggest you match the Grenadier or LC70 upgrades for a like for like comparison...plus inboard rock sliders similar to F2Fork's Prado 150.

[@richardwalsh5570]

Yep, first things onnour new Fortuner after dyal battery and pre filter. Brown Davis Bash Plates and Offroad Animal Sliders. Highly rate both products ❤👌

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

I expect much of this experience will change after a lift, larger MTs, rock sliders and proper offroad bumpers.

[@120pradotwnlockr3]

I have a 120, as my name it's twn locked. With a 2 inch lift and arb underbody protection....it's a beast. I took the factory side steps off due to damage and haven't hit anything yet. I'm in the market for a new car but the 250 just doesn't tick the boxes I need ticked. Man I hate saying it but it may be the ford Everest. Due to 7 seats and towing capacity with gvm upgrade. Keeping the Prado tho.

[@120pradotwnlockr3]

Some of my concerns are the engine size and the 48v system. Man if it had the 300 power train in it and the gxl came with the rear locker I would consider it. Maybe you may change my mind after upgrading it.

[@batlowboy9368]

Hey Ronny, love the content, so thanks for the effort. Would love if you did a towing test on the new Altitude, I'm seriously considering getting one, we tow a 3 ton van, 300kg tow ball weight, just a little concerned if it might be pushing the boundaries? Would love the 300 Series, but the cost is just a little too high. Cheers Mike

[@DMSVICAU]

I'm at the FlexTest part of the Video (7:20) Wondering How would the 250Prado Compare to a Stock GU Patrol........(Grenadier)

[@Ronny_Dahl]

I'd feel safe to guess the 250 wouldnt stand a chance

[@themeettrees]

Finally a Real Test!

[@salman2070]

Well done Ronny

[@robertwilson1827]

What 4x4 accessories have you added to your wagon?? And have they voided your warranty?

[@eredforhonor4937]

What kind of market is placed on the top of the hill ?

[@Harry_Gersack]

@05:05 what do you mean it's difficult to spot? 😂 The side by side videos show a night and day difference. Much more lean and much more bouncing on the right side. Left side looks confident, right side looks like the vehicle doesn't belong in this terrain This could be an advertisement for the sway bar disconnect 😅

[@chrisfanchier2318]

I found this one entertaining to say the least. I won't argue that some of its Tech allows it to be Capable, but the biggest Weakness that you pointed out had to be the lack of Clearance. I'm curious to see how much you are going to lift it assuming there is an option available 🤔. My thoughts all in all though, only worth it if you want to stay in the City. Getting out and about I feel is a bad idea.

[@Overlegen]

Cool testing, can't wait for next vid

[@jawadalsudais9537]

Great video as always!! Would yoy please explain why the 70 series has a much higher clearance compared with 250 prado

[@bbqcrew1]

Thanks Ronny!

[@schalkcarstens3324]

Simple, awesome looking vehicle, can manufacturing not stick to the basics, starting with a manual? The more electronics the more to go wrong, would not want to be stuck out in Namibian Desert!! Just my thought!

[@JavierCR25]

It’s very capable off roader out of the box and for 99% of people it will suffice. A lift kit and all clearance issues will be solved.

[@ben7020]

Side step warranty 😂 i just went to coles Great video !

[@gozznut]

Where is the front sway bar on these Ronny? The KDSS on my 150 VX Prado gives noticeably better flex than those without. Being on a track alongside a mate's FJ Cruiser, the VX has 4 wheels on the ground a lot more often than the FJ.. Where the VX loses out though is the sway bar is forward of the front axle and so my bash plate is always clipping the tops off of sand on the beach or dunes, it collects pebbles and dirt really easily and is full of holes from smacking rocks on the more technical stuff. Just wondering what the 250 is like with the sway bar disconnect and if it's still in front of the front axle, if it's lifted higher and out of the way etc?

[@markogorman5210]

Hey mate…. What kind / brand of snorkel is that..? Factory Toyota..?

[@mk3kxc4u]

As far as I can see the only damage caused was on account of bad driving. The Prado is really a remarkable vehicle.

[@jeffwarnerPHOTOcom]

Or just bad luck that the rock happened to rotate into/under the running board. The top-down view would have shown that, but there are so many different camera views to sort out, it's hard to find the one you might need at any given moment.

[@JimmyjimmyJimmyjimmy-ih3yd]

Toyota has been making 4x4s long before many were in short pants.

[@davidbaker5185]

Any new Tojo purchase, first mod has to be some decent bash plates and consign the factory "brush guards" to the recycle bin

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

Love watching your videos......but I guess Toyota sponsored that one.

[@Indecisive7337]

You can’t beat off road armour built for Off Roaders rather than off road armour built for City Slickers!

[@michaelnugara1]

Let's get fair dinkum. Most Prado drivers won't worry about its off-road proess. It'll be predominantly used on the Blacktop. Great review though.

[@itsdarkest]

In the U.S. it comes with rock rails and skid plates.

[@mungbean84]

Are you sure you cant use the locker and crawl together? I'm not 100%, but when crawl was released in the FJ i thought it didnt care, but perhaps with the Prado its different. Also does the Prado have A-Trac (Toyota active traction control for offroad) or was that also deleted in the 250?

[@jakubstrumillo]

With no front sway bar, rear one push down front end that trying to rise. Thats whay overall wheel articulation is better and You got more 4 wheels on the ground. Even more than You would have when You disconnect rear one too.

[@mauriciogamboa3648]

Ronny one question ! That same track were the one you use when you test the new Fortuner ? If so, the clearance of the Fortuner went better in this terrain ?

[@leonugroho593]

Actually you can engage crawl control with both center and rear diff lock engaged.

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

Not really sure why taking a relatively low clearance vehicle up there seemed like a good idea LOL At least the 90 has some decent bash plates underneath. I like the look of the 250 but I have the feeling the 90 is still the best Prado off-road.

[@iglcoatingsau]

I think crawl control is no different to the other driving aids, its there to get you out of trouble like ABS and traction control but if you purely depend on it without learning how to drive the car properly one day it will fail on you and you cant get yourself out e.g. imagine if an ABS sensor or wheel speed sensor gets damaged due to mud or salt then the whole system wont work.

[@psyberiusblack]

Given that it’s stock, on 33’s (which are slightly less than 33 inches), has side steps and the clearance is on the low side: this thing did pretty darn well! Spacer lift, 35”s, rock rails and this will really tackle some trails quite competently!

[@Harry_Gersack]

These are 33's? They look more like 31" to me

[@gen1c8rs88]

@@Harry_Gersack 265/70r18, 32.61inch/828.2mm. 828.2 + 50.8 = 879mm/34.61 inches. So any 295/70r18, 315/70r17, 325/65r18, or some 35×10.50/11.50/12.50, 285/75r17(when it's listed at 34.1(34.2 Maxxis Buckshot ii)), 275/80r17, 255/85r17(34.6×9.8 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT).

[@imopn]

Love your videos man. You joining Bluesky anytime soon?

[@Shakshuka69]

What happens when you disconnect the sways on a 70 series? Does it still not flex? Why not?

[@danielnjenga8867]

If cost/money was not an issue, which 4x4 vehicle would you buy for long offroad trips?

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Good review, but let’s be honest. Most of these new Prados will be dressed up to look AT ME I’m hard core, but In reality the majority will never do much more than School runs, Mall crawl and possibly a beach run. As for the technology, it’s just another distraction in a vehicle we don’t need. As it is, most drivers fail to concentrate on the job at hand, rely on the gimmicks to monitor their lack of Situational Awareness.

[@MrNipsi]

Thats 90% of all 4WD, I have seen more grenadier at Costco than any where else 😂

[@TheSkskitey]

You say it's a shopping trolley but it would be good in a lot of off-road situations , just don't go rock hopping . Okay a lift and bigger tyres would be an improvement but know the limits of the car and don't go full rock bashing like your used to Ronny :-)

[@craigquann]

Great! I'm sure turtle toyota will implement all the r&d to make improvements in 15-20 years on the refresh....🤣

[@erker6423]

Ronny, why do you not get an Unimog or even better the 6x6 Unimog U 5000 ??? THAT is the Ultimate car. Where it stops, you need to get climibing equipment for yourself !