You need to get your hands on a Vestar Black Hawk AT and make some content on it. Ronnie is one of three people on KZbin to make content about it. I'd like to hear a comparison between it and the Ranger X2.
@ronchakola18054 жыл бұрын
I would suggest the Verreal RS with 14Ah Samsung 35e if you guys can get your hands on one.
@esk8tapas224 жыл бұрын
Wish I could be with you guys 🤩
@SeanXtopher4 жыл бұрын
Kwan is the Cecil B. DeMille of es8.
@Gustitheghost4 жыл бұрын
Happy to see my two biggest influences for getting the Exway Flex making a video together :)
@minimobilereview65704 жыл бұрын
same
@charleshagen51224 жыл бұрын
I'm ex-military and just wanted to put in the comment because you have a problem with your glasses fogging up if you use barbasol original shaving cream wipe it on the lenses and continue to use a cloth to wipe it off until it becomes clear again it will stop your glasses from fogging
@Zamilan4 жыл бұрын
Charles Hagen Thank you 👏
@jaredb95234 жыл бұрын
For real!!?? I'mma go buy some. masks got my glasses clouuuuudy
@max_wav4 жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks for you service and the comment I had trouble with my mask when I’m wearing my glasses and it’s fogging up
@shenvega66884 жыл бұрын
Life hack
@witachapinamk15074 жыл бұрын
@@max_wav how do you know he's not in the military of your country's opposition
@jordandelacruz244 жыл бұрын
My 2 fav asians who rides electric skateboard wasssup
@jamesmichaelcabrera96134 жыл бұрын
BIG DADDYJ lmfao
@nycjt62674 жыл бұрын
i guess it's ok since they're asian...imagine saying about other races.
@bean90054 жыл бұрын
Plan rock 124
@LaMereACaniche4 жыл бұрын
@@nycjt6267 He just said that they happen to be his two favorite asians who ride eboards, nothing racist with that.
@nycjt62674 жыл бұрын
@@LaMereACaniche never said anything about racism...why do people throw that word around so much? example it's ok for society to say white boy all the time but you would never hear someone say black boy.
@cartergarnon62994 жыл бұрын
The benefit of the ugly carry handle makes it lockable. Titanium trucks with an a-frame with a hole for a cable solves some weight issues and well as lockability.
@ttgnam814 жыл бұрын
You guys are the celebrities in esk8 world. My current board is Ownboard carbon GT with cloud wheels. 3rd board coming from Teamgee h9, Meepo V3. My next board on the list is Onsra direct drive board with 6000 watts motor.
@Dj_RichySteele4 жыл бұрын
Stoked squaaaaaaad! I appreciate you for dropping content for me to watch after a long essential work week. As a truck driver I haven't been given a break. It's only gotten busier. This vid helps me personally. Thanks again ❤️❤️❤️😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that things are getting back to normal.
@david-johnmonney52304 жыл бұрын
Nice discussion. I have a Backfire G3 which I love. If I had to improve it, it could be : - Longer deck (maybe 2 or 3 inches) to stay a bit more in the flexible area while cruising at 25km/h. I don't feel very stable with a narrower stance while cruising. I'm 180cm tall. - Larger deck (0.5 inch) to keep the toe of my shoe a bit more on the deck (shoe size 43EUR). Toe on the edge is not comfortable, but also depends on the shoes. Classic street SB shoes are not the best for ESK8 I think, especially the ones with flat/hard soles. - More battery (like the G3 Plus) not because it's not enough (it lasts easily 20km+ and has no sag) but to keep it in the good range of charge that make it last longer. - More wheel options. Maybe bigger and softer wheels that fit the hub motors. Belt drives can answer that but maintenance and discretion are another story ;-) The stock wheels are excellent on flat surfaces but we don't have perfect roads everywhere. - App : to be able to make some tweaks. I think that 3 modes are enough to keep it simple but it should be nice to adjust the top speed and at least the breaking curve. For example in France the top speed is limited to 25km/h so would be nice to set it at top speed in one mode to stay full throttle. Can't wait to see the test of the "Backfire Zealot" and "Boundmotors Bound D1" ! I bet the Zealot will kill the Exway Flex ;-)
@thatoneasiankid87344 жыл бұрын
I actually wrote up a 44 page design project for a skateboard truck with an aluminum loop in it back in high school!
@woodypeterkin18904 жыл бұрын
what about the Backfire G3 plus vs the Exway flex, would you always take the Exway over the backfire or the other way round?
@adnankazi22154 жыл бұрын
Joona Bremer I feel exway flex is the best Cz of firm updates and other features but also me confused about wowgo 3 or exway flex - my mood now is starting to turn to exway flex because u get belt driven option later Nd firm updates are the best thing lately
@bournechupacabra4 жыл бұрын
Better comparison is with the Backfire Zealot, which Dkwan made a video about not too long ago
@bids28953 жыл бұрын
@@bournechupacabra what’s better the zealot s or flex
@bryancrane8214 жыл бұрын
I use a rope chain lock, for bike. Specifically Absus. I wrap it around the trucks and "tie" it with a single loop. Very secure (as any locked bike).
@jacobhodges57064 жыл бұрын
Man I've had the double revel kit for a while and I've put it on several boards and tried a few different kinds of bushings but every time I get into the mid 20s mph the trucks still seem super sketchy
@russell75054 жыл бұрын
Can you address more about “sketchy “?
@jacobhodges57064 жыл бұрын
@@russell7505 I mean I know how to keep a board from shaking but this setup seems determined to- no matter what I do or how I ride. I've been on boards that will do the same speed and never had these problems
@jacobhodges57064 жыл бұрын
@@russell7505 they seem pretty cool. I haven't tried them. They're not for high speeds that's for sure
@bryancrane8214 жыл бұрын
My favorite board (that I own) is the evolve gtr. The all terrain and street wheels option is great. The range is great. Where I live there isn't many stop and charge options, none where I like to ride. So range is a huge factor for me. I also have a exway x1 pro, only hubs option. I love that board too but the roads here are too rough for hubs, gotta be pulleys. I take the exway out only to ride up the street to the store these days. Commute and leisure ride on the evolve. I have ridden boosted, la croix, one wheel and a meepo (not sure which model). La croix is definitely my favorite but too expensive for my wife to get "on board" with.
@kiwimon32044 жыл бұрын
Hows the exway 1 Pro riding down and up footpath side walk kerb dips. Uneven surfaces on footpaths and roads?? I ride the Evolve GTR Carbon with AT wheels. Love it. Rides on any road and footpath surfaces
@bryancrane8214 жыл бұрын
@@kiwimon3204 the hub motors make sidewalk cracks rough if you're going fast. Uneven roads with the carbon deck is a little wobbly. The exway x1 pro likes even surfaces and smooth roads. On those its wonderful. But these biggest reason I bought the bamboo gtr is to have a smoother ride. I do ride all terrain mostly. But even the pu wheels are smoother than exway. The hub motors are the real issue.
@bboylorettoEight083 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the riptide R1 it’s pretty fast and goes about 16-18 miles but a medium size like a skateboard
@pete24p4 жыл бұрын
u use an old snowboard combo lock with extendable cable so u can adjust it to the length you need... i just run it thru the hole in my paris trucks on the kingpin side on the front trucks and run it thru a stop sign pole or something with holes... try it out super easy way to lock the board up... i use it religiously on my wowgo 3x no need for a hole in the board... also wanted to ask you both but would the new cloud wheels 105 discovery wheels fit and work on my wowgo3x? or would these be too large? i feel like the 105s will be perfect i do think the 120s would be a bit too large.. but the 105s could be the perfect solution... thanks in advance for any info you can throw my way.... god bless and stay healthy the two of yous lol.. -p3t3r
@trishaleaver35814 жыл бұрын
Your perfect deck sounds exactly like the Pool King Chris Strople. 33.5 inches. You just have to drill new truck holes to the front to lengthen the wheel base. Great vids. Keep em coming:)
@Shiroikage844 жыл бұрын
so i have a meepo 2.0 since it came out and the biggest problems i encounter is it doesn't have a kicktail which makes it tough for me to maneuver certain areas in my town. The other thing is that the hubs are kicking the shit out of my leg joints. so i was thinking of the revel kit with a loaded poke and slick revolution foamies. I would appreciate your thoughts on this Ronnie.
@Quest4us4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, guys, thank you. A few things...I was hoping to hear your thoughts on the various types of wheels, especially the new larger cloud wheels for comfort and quiet. Another great discussion would be the pros and cons of motor types...belt vs hub vs direct drive. And I was thinking about problem of locking one's board. Like they do with bikes, high end thieves usually work very fast because they carry highly effective tools. The thought of finding your board gone or chopped of all the valuable parts would be heart breaking. It seems a lightweight backpack could be designed with flexible adjustments that could carry almost any size board. With my board on my back, I could do errands or go anywhere with no worries. Is there any backpack like this out there now?
@morsumbra96924 жыл бұрын
2 issues with Eskate and backpacks. 1st is the weight of the board. It's 20 lbs thats stupid long and straight. And most backpacks carry the weight on the shoulders. The board pulls the bag back and down, So it's just hard to balance and be comfortable without you holding the straps. Boosted backpack did the best by having a cup on the bottom of the bag to help hold the board from bottom and top.
@esk8jaimes4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Exway have a mini electric skateboard on the way?
@scottdaviesyoutube4 жыл бұрын
Esk8 Jaimes yep Called the Wave 30” length. Belt and hub and built in rear light and brake light
@planetfeelgood174 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ronnie* & Daniel* , a great video.. and very much appreciated..!! Both your reviews, and this video, have really helped me towards making my decision to my my first e~board, and first skate board since I was a kid. The Exway Flex is looking and souding very good, as a top all rounder for a longboard for fun cruise and carving vibes~* Big Thanks Guy's~* 😊🍀🌟🙏
@stealtherider30084 жыл бұрын
Great video interview! Ronnie and Daniel you guys rock!!
@Rokstarr1214 жыл бұрын
I was just curious, let's say you have belt driven e longboard and the battery came down to zero. Can you just ride like a normal longboard ? Because I saw some people rode hub driven e board when battery was out, but i was curious if you can do it also with belt driven board like if belts aren't some problem riding it shut down.
@davidlinscheid23214 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ronnie and Daniel. A very interesting conversation. I like very much the ease of turning with double king pins, but even tightened down, they were not made for high speeds. My favorite board is the Meepo NLS Pro, good range and crazy fast.
@asdfdfggfd4 жыл бұрын
Whats up with those boots you are wearing at 7:05
@ronnbizzy4 жыл бұрын
Favourite board for me, stoke board, easy lol. thinking about getting the ownboard dual belt motor kit for it
@petergarcia82254 жыл бұрын
I have a TeamGee and for the price and for a first e board. It isnt bad but Exway is looking very kool
@thealmightyraffus70864 жыл бұрын
I dont now if i should get the exway flex or the Meepo Nls pro
@zwiqcs4 жыл бұрын
Two favorite eskate youtubers together, great video
@morsumbra96924 жыл бұрын
This was super cool! You should do a video with Lee Wright. Maybe talk about ways to future proof a production board, differences of MTB vs Street stuff.
@chrislips4 жыл бұрын
I feel like what you described as the perfect board for yourself is the Bustin' Yoface Hybrid, which I know you had a chance to try. Double kicktails, good power and range. Closest thing to an electric street skateboard out there, and the guys from Braille made a model with Clark Patrick ollieing it over 5 boards.
@russell75054 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you guys sharing so much information and experience. I watched this video twice.
@JP-vs2yi4 жыл бұрын
Cool collab. Daniel Kwan is one of the greats in the esk8 community.
@oliveraguirre47284 жыл бұрын
Is the ownboard w2 a good electric skateboard for more of a budget?
@jodan05174 жыл бұрын
Just pulled the trigger on Exway Flex! Used Ronnie and Daniel's discount code haha. You guys are awesome! See you around Ronnie. I also live in NOVA. Stay safe!
@emperor.shanksGAMING4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my meepo mini 2 to arrive next month. Thanks to your videos i decided to get it.
@AnisKadri4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your favorite boards! Really enjoyed this video!
@benjaminbentvelzen77163 жыл бұрын
Boosted Board mini x and Backfire G2 Black My Dream board is a evolve bambo gt
@indieryry4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ronnie, have you tried the the Landyatchs ATV cruiser deck on your Revel kit? I feel like the shape would tick alot of your boxes in terms of your ideal board. Thanks for keeping up the contentcand keeping us want in lockdown. Stay safe, stay healthy and stay stoked 🤙✌️🤘
@rockovlogs18444 жыл бұрын
love the vids want one but cant afford keep it up bro
@WatchDoggyDog4 жыл бұрын
Can u afford it now?! S A V E bro!
@gamebros4534 жыл бұрын
Can you ride a hub motor longboard while it’s off with no resistance
@gamebros4534 жыл бұрын
? Weird question sorry
@hakzima4 жыл бұрын
@Ronnie Sarmiento is it possible to add kick tail to the exway flex? cuz im looking for a board that can go over some concrete barrier (probbably 2-5inch tall), my country alot of these, if not i might just consider a short board with a kick tail.
@charlied96064 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see the collab!
@allenwan44004 жыл бұрын
Awesome Vid! Love both of your content a ton!!! Cannot wait to get my Exway Flex indeed so i can have a new board and first time belt drive!!! Ronnie, you should start looking into the Exway Wave its supposed to be a short board that competes and might fit your wants.Its still early days since all of the crazy started but it looks solid so far from the news I was able to see on it! Exway Wave Current News: - Slim Deck even with the Dual - Quick Swap Battery - Belt and Hub based Drive Train Choice - Lights built into the board Not sure on the kicktail curve though from what I have seen
@12jayLi4 жыл бұрын
heey ronnie sorry to bother. i’m thinking about buying exway flex but i always see problems with it, should i be worried? how good is their ip55? i live in a rainy country but it’s not like im thinking riding in the rain but just incase the rain gets me. love your vids broo🔥🔥
@Zx7o.4 жыл бұрын
The best colab for 2020 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼 stay safe you two
@saae52414 жыл бұрын
Man I’m getting the exway flex soon
@inoakira94624 жыл бұрын
Stealthy Ninja buy before the 30th so you save like 65$
@saae52414 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know thanks for the heads up tho :)
@inoakira94624 жыл бұрын
Stealthy Ninja welcome homie. I’m about to buy mine today.
@saae52414 жыл бұрын
ino akira well I don’t really know what to say if there is anything to say I just felt like it was necessary to reply :) have fun with ur board bro Oh and don’t forget to subscribe to my channel for free cookies :)
@PlayingWithOurBalls4 жыл бұрын
@@inoakira9462 is it a promo code or what is the price once you save $65? I'm looking at the flex riot version and its 699 before shipping
@joeylucero37554 жыл бұрын
Check out verreal RS dual belt board
@pokoklimarteau92154 жыл бұрын
ownboard mini kt v1 or meepo mini er?
@jaredbeesecker41374 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on where to get all the spare parts (battery, wheels etc.)
@petergarcia82254 жыл бұрын
You should cover some good parks and paths to ride on!!
@kaleb80854 жыл бұрын
Please do a review on slick revolution flex e board.
@petergarcia82254 жыл бұрын
Im a fan of your videos guys keep up the good work!👍👍👍
@RonnieSarmiento4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@nathanariganello16534 жыл бұрын
Question, do you think the exway flex would be the best choice for me in a city with some trails
@jonathanbrunache38484 жыл бұрын
You two are the best esk8 reviewers I know mad respect to both of you👍
@dacsupra4 жыл бұрын
I love this video my two favorite KZbinrs! You guys kill it🙌🏼
@SS-qf2po4 жыл бұрын
Plz can u comment on Verreal RS vs Exway Flex?... performance, warranty, quality, etc
@matthewjsherman4 жыл бұрын
I don't own the backfire G3 but i would if I could. Why don't you like it that much?
@AVT7D4 жыл бұрын
exway wave is all you need check it out its your dream board
@scottdaviesyoutube4 жыл бұрын
val6000 100% I’m getting a pre production model in 2 weeks to review and play with !!
@kylerobinson26644 жыл бұрын
I have boosted mini s, 2 boosted V2 plus and Evolve Carbon GT. I use all of them, but boosted is the safest option. Safety is the best feature, which is why Boosted beats every other brand in my opinion.
@ted7144 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find fixes for fogged up glasses w/ masks (toothepaste and stuff) and my best conclusion is to Pull the glasses a bit from the face to let air in and then put the glasses over the face shield/mask and don't let air escape from the mask. In conclusion, let air flow between your face and glasses & put the glasses over the mask & close the air from escaping from the top of the mask.
@king1ny4 жыл бұрын
how does the deck from the exway flex compare to boosted v2 loaded deck?thanks.
@mosesnazareth30484 жыл бұрын
Can you use belt conditioner/oil to extend the life of your belts? Or would that be a bad idea?
@rdordo62674 жыл бұрын
its cool to see you 2 together. i like both of you very much.
@oofergod77494 жыл бұрын
Ronnie do you recommend any oof terrain electric skateboard under 500 bucks i am 11 and am trying to buy an electric skateboard with my ouartine mola
@Withered_Souls1872 жыл бұрын
Could you do reviews from the best budget boards to the worst E boards so we know what to avoid?
@nickyuen4254 жыл бұрын
My favorite skateboard is boosted board because I keep myself simple but I could of been working for them but it’s to late
@FAB11504 жыл бұрын
Man, I just ordered an eboard last Friday and the hype is killing me! It just looks so fun!
@ragnorockcookie28684 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to revive a company
@esk8tapas224 жыл бұрын
Exited to see more colabs !! 🤘
@temporarymomentary4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kwan is a fantastic reviewer. And you too, Ronnie.
@prodigycarstudios4 жыл бұрын
On the Exway Flex... Belts or Hubs?
@prins2x4 жыл бұрын
Depends what you look for, most people go for performance and get the belts, but the Flex hubs are pretty good as well..
@peejayem47004 жыл бұрын
hubs: quiet/simple/less maintenance belts: more torque/wide wheel selection
@MrXiben4 жыл бұрын
Also, belts are more comfortable to ride due to the wheels. Hubs have sleeves around the motors and it's not that soft. Also 85mm instead of 96mm. I bought a hub tho
@PeopleDoingStuff4 жыл бұрын
Would love something similar to a trampa that had nothing to do with trampa. Also lighter, Trampa's are so heavy. Twice as heavy as my Chinese mountain board. How do you stuff a 22000mah 12s battery into a very light weight super off road capable board though? I am just waiting for the super light super off road capable board in general. All the "real" AT boards are quite heavy. And that is with an all carbon composite and cnc aluminum build. Come on engineers, do it! However, for me, range is king. Hard to find boards that you can ride until your body is beat with out ever worrying about battery life. No quick charger needed! Kaly and Trampa are kings here. Not even the Lacroix can hang. However, I am getting my first street board and your videos and Daniel's have helped. I just wish you could get a super clean looking board like the x1 pro, with more flex and more range. That to me, seems ideal.
@mikkelbjrnstad6964 жыл бұрын
Have you seen those pictures of Exway Wave Ronnie?
@jazzstar1454 жыл бұрын
Okay but will you check out the Backfire Zealot? Or as I call it, the G3Z.
@prins2x4 жыл бұрын
Try Verreal RS! Very good and cheap alternative for Ownboard and Evolve it seems..
@pinkbean98064 жыл бұрын
Love it! ❤️ staying stoked!
@DavidBrewerESK84LIFE4 жыл бұрын
Too of my favorite youtubers!! Love the video stay safe bro!!
@Bobbywade32324 жыл бұрын
Hey Ronnie thanks for the video! How do you feel about changing the front wheels on the meepo mini 2 (standard)? I ordered the 265mm front trucks already. I was hoping to put rough stuff 110mm for the front (or something similar) and 100mm pu sleeve (from meepo) for the rear. I want a smoother ride, more balance, and lessen the chance of rocks skidding me to a halt. What do you think?
@mattcoulter74 жыл бұрын
I'm so hyped for my Exway flex riot haha
@inoakira94624 жыл бұрын
Matt Coulter dude I want to buy that one also, but it sucks only using pay pal to buy. Did you use it?
@gabedroppo58144 жыл бұрын
Matt Coulter Dude same!
@mattcoulter74 жыл бұрын
@@inoakira9462I did at first, but the exchange rate was better through my credit card, so I refunded [don't forget to apply discount code] then use credit card
@inoakira94624 жыл бұрын
Matt Coulter nice, how were you able to pay with credit card, says PayPal is the only way.
@mattcoulter74 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they have changed it now, I ordered mine over a month ago. Try contacting them directly if PayPal is not a viable option for you. Their email is service@exwayboard.com
@TeyLupet4 жыл бұрын
Can i buy your old board?
@davidmcgowen95274 жыл бұрын
? Was just wondering why you didn’t comment on your own kick tail boardI have it and it’s great
@richardblackadder4 жыл бұрын
thanks, Guys, my two favourite esk8 KZbinrs, together at last. I preordered my Flex two days ago, pretty much based completely on your respective opinions & reviews. so thanks, you guys rock. oh, did you see exway announced this morning/ last night their own cloud whees, along with pulleys and belt covers? 105 & 120 mm wheels.... any thoughts? 🙏 WASH YOUR HANDS!!
@jlrceltics4 жыл бұрын
Did you get yours yet?
@TranceEnding4 жыл бұрын
As a former Boosted Stealth rider, I'm really enjoying the Vestar Blackhawk
@amooreasea4 жыл бұрын
Be careful I have a Vestar V2 for just over a year for smooth street riding only. The back truck by the motor snapped clean off at 19 miles an hour and all Vestar had to say was boards out of warranty. All they would do is charge me for full retail for a new truck and motor. Looking at the brake on the truck looks like very cheap flimsy cast steel.
@TranceEnding4 жыл бұрын
@@amooreasea Dang really thanks for the heads up. I have to look at that
@gregorypatzelt69644 жыл бұрын
Try the " loaded cantellated tesseract" on your LoadedXUnlimited race kit with the Paris trucks. My friend has this exact set up and to be honest it's my favorite set up to date
@harpmudd4 жыл бұрын
That looks REALLY nice!
@yuvinkang51894 жыл бұрын
I like the flex basalt tesseract but paris savant trucks are heavier for freestyle in my opinion
@killersushi993 жыл бұрын
*You guys need to do a fusion like on Dragon Ball Z! Become the ultimate ESkater!*
@alexmercer16814 жыл бұрын
Big fan from the Philippines hoping to get my first eskate soon
@trustamaninavan32994 жыл бұрын
Is it okay to charge an electric longboard overnight?
@darrenbeck734 жыл бұрын
Try the Verreal RS
@jo_gurt4 жыл бұрын
More vids with Daniel pls! :)
@Generictingz954 жыл бұрын
2:19 lmao yesss I’m not the only one lmfaoo 🤣🤣🤣
@ADHDGames-mw1rn4 жыл бұрын
It is fire man keep it up
@sunstart4 жыл бұрын
Hey people ask you what's your favorite electric skateboard say I haven't build it yet lol 😆. When you make it its your favourite I'm building one now. Dule drive belt drive.
@cartergarnon62994 жыл бұрын
Meepo Mini2 is a TANK...Long Range version is def not necessary. I ride all day and the max battery I've used on one ride before is 57%.
@jakethompson42044 жыл бұрын
Meepo v3 is my favorite
@bretholtzman15244 жыл бұрын
Lacroix Nazare / Lonestar, hands down numero uno for street !
@brandonburk92304 жыл бұрын
For 4k it damn better be, do you own one? Kinda interested in em, would never buy one but they're definitely intriguing
@gearsdan4 жыл бұрын
bit the bullet and pre ordered my exway flex today. cant wait!!
@maneeoocho3504 жыл бұрын
Make a top speed video on the meepo mini 2 that you never got to hit
@RonnieSarmiento4 жыл бұрын
Hospitals have enough to deal with right now lul
@maneeoocho3504 жыл бұрын
@@RonnieSarmiento I totally agree with that lol
@ryannelson79674 жыл бұрын
Double king pin is da wae. Unless you ride in a straight line all the time and want to just feel speed. Haven’t had any issues with wobbles myself on them.
@swegukin111114 жыл бұрын
I’m such a huge fan of yours... where do you make your thumbnails ??