MYSTERY Remington Cartridge Is On Its Way Out

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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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[@kyleblalock9615]

Judging by the empty shelves in my area, all of Remington's cartridges must be on their way out.

[@megatrends]

Bought some 30-30 in Maine @ Cabela's and the local Walmart has .270s .... I'm sure they are pumping it out. It's coming around ...

[@nmelkhunter1]

That’s funny!

[@tommy8715]

You can say that again! Same in my area!

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

The new Core Lokt tipped are making their way around soon !

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

Remington actually went out of business in 2020 and was sold to multiple different companies. They've since resumed operations, and moved from New York, to Georgia.

[@ryanhowe779]

I live in Herkimer, NY which is the neighboor town to Ilion, NY. After WWII, my grandfather worked at the Rem plant for 41 years. Occasionally Big Green would have employee only sales of overrun or display items (rifles, shotguns, ammo). My father told my grandfather to pick up 7mm rem mag 700 if one made the list. One day my grandfather brought home a BEAUTIFUL BDL in 8mm rem mag he picked for $85 thinking that 1mm isnt much difference. Oooof what a difference it is. Shorten the story- It made it to my cabinet and i am one of the biggest fans of this ctg and ever the tinkerman. My handloads send a a 200gr Barnes TSX around 3200fps and a 250 Woodleigh Weldcore RN at 3000fps into cloverleaf holes at 100yds. No signs of over pressure. Destroys beercans at 300yds. Havent had a chance to test the TSX on game yet. and probably never would need the 250gr Woodleighs. Truth be told it really is brutal recoil but not bad with a heavy coat. I do understand the obsolesence argument here, but the capability of this cartridge could never be questioned.

[@battru8302]

280 REM is so good. Wish it was more popular as it should be. I don’t own one however always wanted a 280 REM. 😍

[@blackpowder4016]

7mm Mag steals it's thunder.

[@francismacomber4650]

Remington did produce a 32 for the Model 8 rifle in 1906. It was chambered in the Model 8, Model 141 and Model 30. It is part of the group that includes the 25 Remington, 30 Remington and 35 Remington.

[@paulstaney325]

Have a 32 Remington for aModle 141, brass was hard to find, nice little brush and timber rifle. Lucked out a few years ago, Midway had some brass.

[@troy9477]

Huntington's might have brass too. They always advertise that they have 30 Rem

[@philiptrump8472]

You don't have my favorite on the table. Best cartridge Remington has ever made.... 25-06! I can't wait to hear more from you about your build with a quick twist rate and heavier Berger projectiles.

[@Me2Lancer]

The 25-06 is definitely a favorite of mine.

[@shorelinefarmer2287]

25-06 is the greatest cartridge of all time. My opinion, but she is the most underrated overlooked caliber ever. I’m glad Ron appreciates its and mentions it a lot I’ve taken white tail Mule Sheep Caribou And when I got to afford my elk hunt 3 years ago before Covid hit all my friends said take ur 300 or borrow my 338 like really a 338 for elk. More elk have fallen to 30/30/270/3006/25-35/ and or weaker cartridges. In the end I grabbed one of my 3 25-06, maple stock medallion x bolt with hand loaded speer 120 grains at 3100fps plus and one shot boiler room. He went 10 ft and died. Big bull elk. I will always love the 25-06 and love the new 135 grainers coming out. Just gotta get a 1:7.5” Barrel kr even a custom 1:8” and use that barreled gun for 120-135 and you 1:9/10” barrels for all else 87-115

[@shorelinefarmer2287]

Energy, trajectory and recoil she is unmatched for what she can do. Most underrated caliber of all time. Glad new heavy bullets are coming to shut up all the 6.5 hype that Hornady marketed like crazy.

[@randylong8156]

25/06

[@nova68cutie]

@@randylong8156. I’d one day love to have one.

[@bobritchie6720]

Pretty much anything in 8mm/32 caliber is AWESOME, all the way down to the 32acp and 32 rimfire. The 32 calibers would make a great topic for a video. Lots to explore there.

[@adelarsen9776]

At the 4 minute mark I genuinely guessed right with the 8mm Rem Mag. I have one in my collection - The cartridge that is. I've never fired one but I have owned the cartridge since I was about 12 years old. The day an old gun smith gave me the 8mm Rem Mag he also gave me a 250-3000 and a 221 Rem Fireball cartridge. I still have them in my small collection. Thanks Ron. Good health to you and yours. :-)

[@taylorhanson5340]

Minute in, guessing 8mm rem mag. Never caught on, because it was before the mm craze. Have stuff to reload it, and would love to find a rifle chambered in it again. Great elk cartridge

[@greybone777]

Good job 👏

[@spookshilljoe7376]

I agree

[@jzeke1712]

Gotta be 8mm, don’t need to watch the video, only needed to see the Title…awesome cartridge. I’ve got friends that use it for whitetail, elk, moose, black bear, antelope.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

The heck of it is, if you need an action that long, the .338 Lapua bests it.

[@taylorhanson5340]

@Jacob McCandles definitely more bullet selection for .338 diameter. Dad was loading 225gr spire points and 180gr spires. Seen 2 deer killed with the 225s and its a bit overkill for whitetail. Then other hand its weak for African big game. It's a niche cartridge that really only works right for moose and elk

[@beavisbrowne3497]

8 mag great cartridge and spawned many fine wildcats my favorite the 7stw..it was the big daddy of the day

[@vernehambone3590]

My guess at 4:00 in was the 416. I just couldn’t imagine a cartridge that prolific and popular worldwide being discontinued. I was surprised by the answer. I forgot that one existed. 😉As usual, great video! Thanks Ron!!!

[@DaveL9170]

The .416’s (especially the Rigby) are super popular overseas.

[@msa4548]

The bullet weight range ruled it out for me.

[@robertfree1908]

When our hint was stated as “1 of 2” I was thinking either 6.5 Rem Mag or their 350. My immediate dismissal of the long belted was the fact that Remington introduced/legitimized 3 long belted I believe: 7mm STW, 8Mag and 416 Rem Mag. Mr. Spomer threw me for a loop!

[@Toiler280]

I owned an 8mm Rem Mag in the late 70's and loved it!! It was very accurate with factory ammo and was deadly on moose. It was my loaner rifle for those who were just getting in the hunting game and it was used on moose and elk out to 350 yds with great efficiency. I sold it to one of those borrowers in the early 80's as I had several other rifles that I was experimenting with. I got my price for it which was unexpected as it was in a Rem 700 BDL and the price was well over the MSRP. Biggest regret was even though it was numerically a heavy recoiling rifle the rifle fit me so well it felt more like my several 30-06's. Sad to see it might be removed from the inventory!!

[@geraldbatts575]

The old 32 Remington was in the old 30 rem case along with the 25 rem. The 35 rem actually had a bigger case. They were Remington's answer to the 25-35, 30-30 and 32 win special. Chambered in Remington's pumps and semiautomatics, even a bolt action I believe.

[@jacktheaviator4938]

The 32 was released with the model 8. I have one from firat year of production, and the old fella my dad bought it from had saved the original box with a bunch of sales literature. One of the flyers was for their new Model 8 rifle and their new 32 and 25 Remington cartridges. It featured an illustration of a man facing down a grizzly with a Model 8.

[@OnTheFritz602]

Saw the thumb nail and knew it was going to be the 8mm Rem Mag. Actually makes me want to chamber a custom Mauser in this "obsolete" cartridge!

[@williambarnes4612]

Give that great cartridge some love 💕

[@mikegoodwin2386]

I'm an 8mm fan. I couldn't decide between a 338 mag and a 300 mag and really wanted something in between. I picked up an inexpensive used Rem 700 in 8mm Rem Mag. I really like the performance. It's sort of in the same niche as the 338 Win Mag. The 325 WSM will almost match it's performance in a short action. I think the ideal 8mm would be somewhere in between the WSM and the Rem Mag. The old 8x68mm S Schuler cartridge would be just about perfect, IMO, except for the odd bolt face diameter that's bigger than our 30-06 size and smaller than our magnum bolt faces. That presents challenges in building a modern rifle in this old cartridge. I've considered doing a wildcat, probably based on the 375 Ruger, but shortened a little. Didn't have a good way to push the shoulder back. Now that the 7mm PRC is out there, all sorts of gears are turning in my head about maybe necking that up to 323. I do like my Big 8. I tamed the recoil a little bit by putting a McMillan Fiberglass stock on it with a LimbSaver recoil pad. Mine came with a 24" barrel and I really think you'd need at least 26" to get the potential out of this big cartridge. I don't really want to go longer because I like short, handy rifles. That's part of the reason I'm considering a wildcat design, or maybe just getting a 325 WSM and calling it good. EDIT: Nosler makes factory ammo for it. I've been shooting the 200 gr AccuBond at an advertised 3000 fps. I have some 220 gr Sierra Game Kings and some 220 gr Swift A-Frames I want to try reloading.

[@tomdoherty2485]

Id like to see a video on the 264 win mag. Its a really flat shooter. I useto own one & I really liked it . At times I could put a dime on 3 shots @ 250 YARDS bench shooting.

[@donlovell6708]

Last 264 ammo I saw for sale were over $100/20rnds

[@ChallisVenstra]

@@donlovell6708 I saw rem core lokt the other day for $50/20

[@luvtahandload7692]

@@ChallisVenstra my local Sportsman's Warehouse has it for $82/20. 😲

[@timothymcknight9485]

Three years ago, I called my gunsmith up, and told him, I wanted him to build me another rifle.He asked which caliber. I said everyone is going crazy over the 6.5 bullet. He said a 6.5 Creedmoor? I said, nope, going old school, a 264 Winchester Magnum!!!! Man, he built me a shooter!!!

[@mikehoshall6150]

I remember when Remington came out with the 8mm. A cartridge I am starting to fall in love with the 8 is the parent cartridge of it. Thats the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner. Basically equals the 300 Winchester in performance but take a look at the BC of those 7MM bullets!! I don’t have one right this minute but the much higher BC on those 7mm bullets tells me it should really outperform the 300 at range. Would love it if you would go in depth on this idea of mine.

[@larrybassett5559]

I had a 7mm STW for a while in a Weatherby Accumark, it was a nice rifle and shot well with heavy bullets. It kicked just like my .300 Weatherby though, and was just as heavy, they are both gone now. I found like you did, that the .300 Winchester Magnum had similar ballistics, and for me in a slightly lighter rifle it worked out well. For as far as I will shoot it's more than enough. We all have our favorites, that's the great thing about all the choices we have, and maybe a little bit of a curse as well. Enjoy that STW!

[@richhauxwell7848]

Yep, my rechambered 7 mag loves 8mm reformed brass

[@michaelapple2753]

Well here goes then I have that 7mmstw and I have taken some 8 mag brass and necked it down. Just a couple of weeks ago I put together some loads of h1000 seated with a Hornady 166 GR a tip bullet and I think the coefficient on that was supposed to be up there around nearly 7 it was really really good but I'm not shot any yet and you're right that's 7 mm has some really good BC. I added a good muzzle brake to my model 700 went with a void stock which I floated the barrel and also went with a good recoil pad and it is easy to shoot now trying to build a good one 🤔

[@waynelewls4566]

@@michaelapple2753 uuuu u

[@404nitro]

The 32 Rem was a 32 cal too Ron. Not popular anymore nor for a long time, but it was around for years and my cousins hunted with one. Excellent video once again.

[@rex8958]

I wish they made brass for the 32 rem and 30 rem, I know it’s possible to convert 30-30 to 30 rem. Just looked at a 32 rem pump the other day and almost bought it, great guns left unused because of the oddball calibers

[@404nitro]

@@rex8958 Quality Cartridge makes brass for the 32 rem, but like everything right now, getting some may be a while. Midway usually carries it or you can go directly to QC and buy it/ $35.50 per 20 is not bad by any means now. They have a sign on their site that tells you that due to the covid shutdowns in their crazy state, they are WAY behind. Still, get on their waiting list or call and talk with them. I can't post the link or YT will delete it instantly. Check with Jameson Brass as well.

[@rex8958]

@@404nitro thanks for the info, now I’m considering it. Wouldn’t be a range gun or anything I shoot a lot so price of brass isn’t really an issue.

[@404nitro]

@@rex8958 Good luck!

[@whaaatno7439]

Also check out Colorado custom cartridge, they made some for me as well. They even sell loaded ammo. It’s made from 30-30 brass so it’s stamped as such but that didn’t bother me

[@jasonlopez4855]

I'm a big Winchester fan all day. 243w 308w 270w 300wm 🤠🇺🇲 I'v used for all game and is the most popular in America.

[@CCXRS7]

I'm pretty sure the 7mm STW that uses the 8 Rem Mag as a parent case is actually more popular than it's parent case. And let's face, people aren't exactly beating down the doors of their local gun shop to get their hands on a 7 STW.

[@michaelapple2753]

No maybe not but I bought one of them and yes I have some 8 mag brass that I've necked down and shot already works just fine.

[@GeezerWheels]

I suspected the 8MM Rem Mag at first, but once you mentioned bullet weight, it was pretty much obvious. Thanks again for a thoughtful video!

[@robertboyd3863]

Bullet weight helped me guess it

[@billsharko3007]

I bought a Remington 700 BDL in 8MM Mag back when it came out and still have it. Its a good round that never caught on.

[@waynestone6462]

Just like the 358 win

[@davidfornkahl8374]

Hold onto it. I have one also. Prices are going up, up and up.

[@yooper7753]

I had a Thompson Center Encore 338 Winchester Magnum rifle barrel rechambered in 338-8mm Remington Magnum. Yes, 26 inch barrel utilizing resized 300 H&H Magnum brass.

[@williambarnes4612]

ER Shaw will make you a 8mm Remington magnum and you will have to roll your own or go with a custom reloader outfit. Great caliber for big thin skinned critters.

[@stevepuyear2738]

Before Winchester developed the 325WSM, I developed an 8mm magnum on an Improved 7mm Dakots case. I named it "8mm Elkhamr." It's an Incredible cartridge, fits in an 06 length action and will push 200gr Accubonds over 3125fps. It's a pretty flat shooting thumper! The downside is recoil. It's a fast, sharp, grenade in the armpit type of recoil. I do not have a muzzle brake installed on the rifle either. The rifle is built on a custom Rem 721 action, Stainless 26" match grade magnum contour barrel, Bell and Carlson stock. It's a fine shooting rifle.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Sounds like a good wildcat, Steve.

[@gregorywalker4997]

wow, thought this one had gone a long time ago. not surprising--8's never really caught on here in the US. the 8x68s might have some interest today, if there was any reliable loading data or factory rifles. i'd take an 8mm-06 any day of the week. great video!

[@antoniomanuelrodrigues-sz7lb]

Gregory, it happens that, after ww-1, the germans developed just that.!! It's the 8×60S Mauser.!!! I'm a happy owner of an old, (but like new), excellent CZ-Brno bolt action rifle in that cal., and I love it.!!!

[@lanceroberthough1275]

It's an amazing cartridge. 8mm Mauser is also great. But in spite of massive availability of 8mm Mauser surplus rifles, that diameter just ever caught on. New high end Mauser rifles are still chambered for the old warbird.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Yes, I cover the 8mm Mauser in my 8mm Rem. Mag. video on RSOTV.com. Remarkable cartridge for its size.

[@boingkster]

I bought a Portuguese Mauser from 1908 for $200 once. It came "with ammunition" listed in the sale. On pickup, I was walking out with the rifle when the clerk mentioned I'd better take the ammo. I turned to see him with two full shopping bags of milsurp! Best $200 I ever spent.

[@codywilliams1506]

I only found out about this cartridge last year. I was @ a gun show in Duncan, BC & a guy at a counter has a Remington 700 & when I asked what caliber it was chambered in, he said “8mm Remington Magnum” and I was like “what”? I googled it & I realized I never heard this cartridge, but when i found out, I was in love. I’ve been dying to get my hands on an 8mm Rem Mag since (hopefully in a Winchester 70).

[@spacecat7247]

I've always had a strange affinity for oddball cartridges and the 8 mm Rem mag hasn't escaped my notice. I was wondering if you've ever done anything on the 264 Winchester magnum? A round that was certainly ahead-of-its-time. And ahead of what was bullet Construction for its day. Funny thing is, I was reading Shooters Bibles in the 80s that said 8 mm Rem Mag was on its way out But here it is still.

[@voiceforthevoicelesstruth5480]

My buddy only shoots .264 magnum with cutting edge bullets on elk and it hammers them!

[@vernonlarson7016]

I'll never get rid of my 8mag and 2 of my 7stw rifles.

[@Mr480junkie]

I have a 325 WSM and I really like it. Ammo is just too expensive so you have to handload for it. With the right load I can get close to 3000 fps and the energy is near the 4000 foot pound mark.

[@anthonymedeck7081]

Model 8 Remington design by John Moses Browning. Came in a 32 caliber. Rimless ammo made for the auto loader was in 25,30,32, and 35. 35 Remington is the only one they still make. I have one in 32 Remington and it’s hard to find ammo.

[@codyallen4308]

My dad had, and I still have his 700 BDL 8mm Remington magnum. It has stout recoil and it is extremely lethal out to 500 yards, and beyond. I honestly believe that if there were more bullet options it would’ve rose more in popularity because it is a flat shooting big magnum that will take anything in North America and African plains game no problem.

[@jk-kr8jt]

Fun video again Ron. For many reasons the 8mm/32 cal has never caught on, in America. 8mm RM done and dusted, 325 Short Fat was a flash in the pan, probably the 32 Special was the most popular and that has gathered dust for years. 32s and 35s just don't gain traction. The 25s are getting that way too. Ron, a key part is missing in this video. Where the heck is Covey? 😁

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

I didn't want Covey sneaking it and giving away the 8mm RM answer.

[@jk-kr8jt]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors lolololololol, come on man I can tell Covey is trustworthy. As long as the biscuits keep coming his way.

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

Lots of K98s were rechambered to 8mm.'06 when they were brought back.

[@jk-kr8jt]

@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 yes they were. And a lot stayed as 8x57. But since 8mm-06 was never a factor round and 8x57 ammo is difficult to find, that shows that the 8mm/32 has yet to gain much traction in America. I don't think it will in the future, either.

[@pliskenx51mm83]

America has always been a straight .30 cal country. Although in todays world thanks to the ar15 we've become more of a .224 and 6.5 cal country thanks to the creedmoor. But .308 and .3006 still hold high for many.

[@randallparker8477]

A gunsmith in central CA, back in the 70's, made 2 matching custom rifles in 8 mm Rem-Mag for my Dads old boss. He was retiring and he and his twin brother were going to Africa on a safari. They got the rifles and a bunch of us had a big buried pig feed to send them off. They brought out the guns and let 4 of us, drawn names in a hat, shoot one round each. I shot them both, no one else wanted to do a second. It kicked like a mad mule of course, but it sure was nice to feel that power, in a weapon that cost more than my first house. The brothers each shot once. The next day we heard that our old boss was found dead in his idling pickup at the range, the truck had been started about the time we all left the range. The autopsy showed he had a stroke/aneurism, probably when he shot his rifle, his collar bone was also broken. He had stood around BS'n about the safari, no one ever saw any pain, and he had even sung a gospel song duet with his brother after a prayer for their trip. His brother took both rifles and put them away and never touched them again. I 've asked about them but someone said he had them destroyed. Sad story all around.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Wow.

[@michaelmartino5100]

A buddy of mine years ago had a Remington Model 700 BDL in 8mm Rem Mag. He took about a 200 sow running directly at us at about 75 yds. Craziest example of hydrostatic shock I ever saw! The pig, flew up in the air, landed right on it's back, all four legs almost straight up quivering for 25-30 seconds like it was hit by a lightning bolt! I'll never forget that hunt in Northern California on a private ranch near Ukiah in 1983, I think...What a memory, and what a howitzer of a cartridge!

[@sakostwwy1903]

I wished I was watching when this first came up. I knew right away it was the 8MM. When I got my beloved 7MMSTW I studied all about the 8MM with that being used as the parent case. It is weird to me that the 8mm isn’t more popular. It falls perfect between the .30 and .338. However there isn’t much between the .338 and .375’s either.

[@Chilly_Billy]

No need for it.

[@adamkadir3803]

I think the 8mm Rem Mag is super cool. I legitimately didn't know that Remington was still making ammo for it. I don't think I've ever seen a box on sale.

[@robertfree1908]

@@Chilly_Billy after 40 S&W came out the consensus was “no need for a 10mm”. The fans kept it alive and look at 10mm now. I’m not saying the 8Mag can or will be the Phoenix that the 10mm is. But maybe there are enough fans to keep it alive. Like 41 Mag

[@highplainsdrifter9631]

@@robertfree1908 agreed. The 10mm is more popular than ever, while the .40 is dying a slow death. I have never liked the .40 - why settle for the detuned version of the real deal?

[@robertfree1908]

@@highplainsdrifter9631 the 40 may die away. I’ve never liked it as much as the 10mm. But I do like the 40 for what it does: fit in 9mm sized autos. I believe the 40(357 SIG & 9mm as well. They just give users more options. Say a heavy bullet in 40 for instance if that’s what they want). It also has good ballistics. Honestly I don’t believe it was ever meant to replace the 10. It was meant for what the 9mm is heralded for today[as it always has really]: performance with lower, manageable recoil. Hate to be long winded. Just felt it should be said. ALL of our cartridges are great cartridges but for different platforms and uses. Take the new 30 Super Carry; though I don’t think it was intended for this but I think it would be great for a low recoiling target auto target round. Your thoughts?

[@RH-xr8ms]

Glad to hear about the new cartridge coming,,,,,the 360 Remington !!!!

[@DOW114]

i have never heard of at least half of them. I have so much to learn .

[@lovacporodjenju4363]

I think that Remington saw popularity of 8x68s caliber in Europe...

[@mongosafariadventure]

Many years ago, I flipped a coin to choose between the 8 MM Rem Mag and a 375 H&H Mag. I came home with a Rem 700 Classic (1996) 375 H&H Mag... Very worried as I haven't seen 35 Rem 200 RN on the shelves in almost 3 years. The Marlin 336 was my favorite woods rifle for a long time.

[@larrybassett5559]

8 mag, had one for years, I liked it but, really didn't do much my .300's and .338 didn't do, and was no match for my .340 Weatherby. Also, for the record, I have handloaded the 8mm Rem. Mag and the .325 WSM quite extensively. With both cartridges loaded properly with bullets 200 grains and up, the 8mm Rem. Mag beats the .325 by a pretty good margin.

[@robertfree1908]

I’m a 325 fan. But I must say it just can’t come close to 8Mag......unless we’re only talking factory loads. I think that was Mr. Spomer’s point. The only way my A-Bolt 325 trumps and 8Mag is light and handy short action and 23” bbl.

[@larrybassett5559]

@@robertfree1908 Agreed, sure wouldn't want a lightweight 8mm Rem mag!

[@robertfree1908]

@@larrybassett5559 that depends on where the weight is and how often you have to shoot it! Lol

[@robertfree1908]

@@larrybassett5559 btw I’ve owned a 300 WM & WBY and handloaded for and shot a 338 WM. But it was a dream of mine to own a 340. The rifle I wanted it in (the year was ‘97) a Sako 75. Back when Sako was pretty much chambering EVERYTHING in FIVE different action sizes! How I wanted a Deluxe in 340!

[@larrybassett5559]

@@robertfree1908 that would be a fine rifle for sure! I believe it was Ross Seyfried that wrote something to the tune of. "If you can't do it with a .340 Weatherby, it probably can't be done with a rifle. " Or something to that effect.

[@thomasdaum1927]

Thanks for the history , used the cases to make the 7 stw . Please consider doing an episode on the 6x45 a great little cartridge.

[@clemoniii]

It's also the parent case for the 300 Jarrett. I still have a few unfired 8mm Rem Mag cases from the 1990's

[@joshuakim397]

This Video brought a smile to my face. The genuine 😊 joy

[@ralphlivingston762]

Ron: Back in the 60's (yes...I'm an old guy) my dad had a "sporterized" 98 Mauser. There were a lot of rifles like than in the woods in that era. That said, I had it re-chambered to the 8mm-06 and loaded cartridges for him. This wildcat is now totally dead even though with the modern supply of great bullets it could be a wonderful performer on all North American game. It would approach 90 percent of the 8mm magnum with a lot less recoil in a standard action.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Yes indeed, Ralph. I think the legitimization of the 338-06 A-Square nail shut the coffin on the 8mm Mauser in the USA. Still a great round, though.

[@davidfornkahl8374]

The comment, "You may find one cheap". That's funny! They are a collectors item. Great Video! I bought one that was like new, 4-5 years ago. I shot some factory 185 gr. Corelokt factory ammo in it. The recoil was stout but not near as bad as what I thought it would be. I got 1-1.25" groups at 100 yds. It's a 700 BDL. Next time I elk or moose hunt, that's the one I'm taking. I have handloads some 200 gr. Barnes X bullets but have not shot yet. It's about time someone had a video about the 8 mm Rem. Magnum. THANK YOU!!!!

[@markcampbell9683]

8mm Rem Mag excellent accurate and powerful when loaded with IMR 7828. 220 gr. Sierra BT at 3075 fps. Once shot a 2 shot 2 in. group at 600 yards. Factory Model 700 with 3x9 Leopold.

[@terrymcclendon8715]

The best thing about the 8 mm rem mag was it's sibling the 7 mm STW,. Beats the 7 rem mag but not by much!

[@CJ-zx4zt]

thanks again Ron!

[@normanrea8146]

I knew a number of people who these. Considerably less popular than the 338 win mag. Which is a great cartridge. Since the 338 is shorter,it,in my opinion is superior

[@dougwillingham4970]

As soon as you said 150-220gr I screamed 8mm rem mag. MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE ELK CARTRIDGE!

[@leenash9604]

I own an 8mm Rem. For hunting it is fantastic. For the big stuff it is every bit as good as and better than many inits power category. If the component manufacturers wound have made better bullets it may have done better.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

"Only one cartridge in that Caliber" ...makes it the 8mm Mag or 6mm. ...and ft/Lbs and a belt makes it the 8mm. A fantastic African plains game cartridge, and a great Elk round.

[@Idahoguy10157]

I gave up long ago wondering why and how the public love some cartridges and ignore other. However….Remington has a talent for kneecapping the cartridges they introduce.

[@jasonf.4107]

Remington does certainly seem to have a history of introducing otherwise great cartridges in horrible fashion. 6mm Remington, 280, the SAUMs, 6.5 Remington Magnum, what else? I also felt like they gave up on the 260 too easily.

[@Idahoguy10157]

@@jasonf.4107 …. Yeah, compared to Hornaday’s 6.5 Remington’s 260 was a flop.

[@bcpioneer59]

My brother bought a 8mm rem and was lied to about how flat it was and how good it was. They told him he could hold dead on and be flat out to 600 yards, no drop at all. I bought it off him 15 years later and had it re-barreled to a 416 rem mag. I hated the 8mm and really liked the 416. I pretty much shoot 300 win mag steady for decades. People always just on the flavor of the month and listen to new hype forgetting all the great calibers that do the same or better that most new ones when loaded right.

[@craigleibbrand7761]

340 Weatherby for me

[@knobjob2839]

Over 4k fpe is serious business. The 8mm class has never been popular in America, so I'm not surprised. Great video 👍

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Thanks for watching

[@jasonkreamier3075]

Brother and dad both have 8mm they love them

[@jmy7622]

Where I live you can't hunt with any of those rounds, in fact you have to use a bow and arrow unless you want to drive. There's the range. So most people have 5 or less rifles all in common sizes. The only Remington I remember when I was a kid, a .22 rifle, it was fun to shoot and accurate, but all ammo used was Winchester, used some 30.06 ammo. Loved the rifle though. I hope Remington is around for awhile.

[@sturisa]

Great stuff Ron, looking forward to the podcast!

[@jeffkelderhouse6354]

Have one in a 700, figured the pick would be a belted case. My first guess was the 350MAG. Bought the 8mm to hunt moose or elk, has work just fine every time it was used on game. Tamed the recoil with a HS Precision stock. Will most likely pass it on to a to a family member when I can't take the gun for a walk.

[@eugenegress5896]

The punisher. My childhood friend, in Adulthood used one. He shot a Buck, double Lung, and ithe still said it ran off A great distance. He said " So much for my Magnum Theroy". A beast... Just stick to the 3006 cal Lol. Lost Him Last Sat. Deeply Grieved over the Old Putz being gone. I will shed Washington State Tears, in Michigan Woods this year.

[@mr.happyfunguy3772]

Good job Ron, had me going for a moment there, as I’m a 7 Rem Mag guy. Just put a Bushnell Banner 6x18 on my Model 670 Winchester for some power line hunting. Take care, Me

[@papabones-p8o]

I was afraid it was the 25-06 until you mentioned the bullet weight and recoil! "KEEP ON KEEPIN ON"!

[@michaelapple2753]

No they're not going to get rid of that 25-06 that's too good of a gun I actually thought it was going to be the 222 not because it's bad round or anything but mainly because there's so many out there that outdo it

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good old chambering but you detailed is shortcomings quite well. Thank you

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Very welcome

[@JustinJFilson]

.25-06 remington?

[@Wootangtw]

Thanks for your videos buddy….

[@lynnrodman8954]

I love my 264 win mag

[@terrybailey9621]

Had that on the second hint..... I want to build an 8mm rem mag because I love my 8mms

[@hammerheadms]

You're right. I have never heard of it. Though, being from the Midwest, and never getting to hunt outside of the region, I have never heard of a lot of cartridges. Ballistic history certainly is interesting.

[@vernonlarson7016]

Hi Ron. I got a custom 8mag in a 700 with a cut rifle 26 inch barrel. I shoot 200 accubonds at 3244. Rl26 is the magical powder. It does shoot awsome with sub moa but the recoil is alot.

[@craigleibbrand7761]

The 358 Norma magnum has the same amount of energy plus bullets 250, 280, 310 gr. As well as down to 150, 180 gr. It can be chambered in a STANDARD length action.

[@josephtutela1066]

I finally got it when you called out the recoil. I hope this means I can find a bargain priced rifle in the 8mm rem mag!

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

According to some comments, the 8mm Rem Mag. rifles are expensive collector items! I was wrong.

[@stienfamilyoutdoors]

As soon as we had “only cartridge in the caliber, and 150-220 grain,” I was locked in on 8mm rem mag. Cool cartridge!

[@stevelever83]

I had an 8mm Rem mag, and loved it. Its funny the negatives that get thrown around about a lack of bullets or recoil. There are 150, 175, 180, 195, 200, 220 and 250gn bullets for it, how many do you need? The talk of recol, any cartridge that has the energy the 8mm has will boot a bit, the .300's and the .338's with similar weight bullets at similar speeds, will kick about the same. The 8mm is a real killer and is a great 1 gun rifle for non DG big game.

[@burtyoung3478]

Ron says you might pick one up cheap. Yeah, right! The market for used 8 Rem Mags is off the chart! I bought one in March 1978 and still have it. I have taken black bear, whitetails, and hundreds of woodchucks with it. Yes, it is definitely overkill for woodchucks. But they are a great way to get some trigger time in with whatever rifle you want to hunt with. Would I buy it again? Probably. Especially if I were in my early 20's again.

[@BBQDad463]

Thanks for this fascinating look at an obscure cartridge.

[@justinlowe8038]

Got a 8mm rem mag in a 700 classic love the rifle . Nosler was loading and making brass for it before pandemic. Only thing I own harder to find ammo for is my 350 rem magnum.

[@cabochris100]

The 8 mag is great. Hits hard and feeds slick! I may need one!

[@michaelangelo7511]

It’s an incredible round. This would stop ANYTHING legal to use or not. I never had one but like the .280 REM the performance Shute is impressive.

[@donnkloepfer1316]

I think it was one of three. 7stw, and 416 as well as the 8 mag. Which I have one of, plus an extra barrel and a ton of unfired brass and 416 brass as well. Even chambered a 338 win rem 700 to 338x 8 mag, best big cartridge I have 250’s over 3000 and accurate.

[@geoffreyjohnston6483]

The biggest flaw in the 8mmRM is that dearth of bullets. The next one is it doesn't do anything the .308 Norma, 300 win mag, 300 Wby mag. will match or surpass. The 325 WSM is no great shakes either. A tinkerer I know uses 325 cases for a 338wsm wildcat that has more use than either of the 8mms.

[@patriotichunter6434]

Oddly enough I just saw a rem bdl 8mm rem mag on gun brockers for sale. Didn’t know that caliber existed until it popped up on a bdl search. Now you do a video about it. How funny.

[@TXBeardedWarrior]

I was guessing 7 RSAUM before the grain bullet comment. Have one and love it. Life became easier after we started loading cartridges.

[@donaldbaker1135]

That gets read of my pick

[@mdagley1429]

When the 8mm rem mag first came out I thought "Wow! That's gotta be the best thing since sliced bread"! I was likely the first person in Idaho to ever own one and, boy was I proud. Just look at that ginormous case! Wow, wow, wow. Then I touched off a round and it was OW, OW, OW! Not so much because of the relatively heavy recoil as it was the shape of the stock. That rifle slapped me up side the head so hard I thought I'd stepped into the ring with Joe Frazier! Just the first (and only) shot gave me a massive headache that lasted for hours. That rifle and the 19 remaining rounds was sold and replaced with a 340 Weatherby that, by comparison, was a pleasure to shoot. Had the rifle fit me better it may have been a life long companion rather than a one shot slam, bam, thank you mam. I couldn't get rid of it quick enough.

[@gusloader123]

m dagley: -> You brought up something totally missed by most of the commentators. Massive Recoil is NOT fun, nor good. R.S. did mention the heavy recoil, but it seems many folks did not hear that part of the video. The 8mm Rem. Mag. was/is just another unnecessary cartridge invented by ammo and/or weapon companies in order to get $$$ from potential buyer that need the latest, bestest, coolest toy on the market. I sold off both of my .300 Win. Mag. rifles (Rem & a Sako) and have the tried & True .30-30 Win, .303 Brit and a 7.65mmx53mm Mauser. Correct Bullet placement instead of massive tons of pressure.

[@craigschulz1852]

That is Craig Boddington's favorite caliber. He has a rifle in that caliber that shoots 1/10 of a inch 3 shot groups.

[@bd65shooter]

Mine is a first year production bdl. I shoots a 200g Accubond just under 3k, it is a thumper and I wouldn't get rid of it. Mine is muzzle braked, call it Louten Frua for fun.

[@jwgbmp40]

Oh nooo! Love that cartridge.. reload it for my buddy..

[@charlesmason1278]

There was a .32 in the original line-up of the Remington model 8. .30 Remington, .32 Remington, and .35 Remington. Only the .35 survived, as the first two duplicated the .30wcf, and the .32 special.

[@MarktheSharkC]

Love the show Ron!

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Thanks Mark.

[@uralbob1]

Good one Ron!

[@keithsterner4410]

In 1906 Remington came out with the 32 Remington for the model 8 and could get it in a model 14 which I have and some other models.But the 32 remington had a bullet diameter is a . 321

[@billratliff9916]

Love my 8mm mag took a moose over 2000 lbs at 437 yrds my first choice in Alask. 200 gr barns x is awsome

[@MagnumMike44]

I have the 5.56/.223, 6 mm, 25-06, and the .280 Remington cartridges and I'm glad it's not one of them.

[@scottterry1659]

I had 8 mag in the early 80s. Good round but at that time bullets where not the best , but now it would a great round

[@chadlemons8555]

I had it fairly early on but you sure had me second guessing toward the end ! Lol

[@craigschaefer8764]

I thought sure you were going to say the .350 Rem Mag. I’m sure it’s hot on the tail of the 8mm. I have a .350, and I like it a lot. But I’ve stocked up on brass, anticipating it’s demise.

[@davidfornkahl8374]

Smart man! Me too!

[@garretttippett-patterson4767]

I've been trying to get some brass for my 350 rem mag. Got lucky last year at a gun show and got 100 unfired Remington brass. Started to load for it using them and some I had from factory ammo and love this cartridge.

[@davidfornkahl8374]

@@garretttippett-patterson4767 I also love the .350 Rem Magnum. I load 200 gr. Barnes TSX bullets and use TAC powder. I get around 2800- 2850 fps out of a 22" brl. Look in the Barnes #4 manual. I don't even load the maximum load.

[@robspath4203]

My initial guess was that too.

[@stevecampbell668]

Ha, that was my guess, I have one that I purchased in 2003, it really packs a wallop.

[@commoncorysense1809]

I may have misunderstood you at the 06:54 mark when you stated that the 8mm was the only .32 caliber under the Remington name. Apologies if I am wrong but the Remington semiauto model 8 and 81 Woodsmasters and the Remington pump model 14 and 141 Gamemasters as well as the Remington model 30 bolt action all came in the 32 Remington developed in 1906 and also known as the 32 Remington Rimmed or 32 Remington Auto loading. Before everybody breaks out torches and pitchforks, Yes 8mm Remington Magnum is an actual .323 and the 32 Remington is a .321 but I respectfully believe they are both 32 Cal’s

[@riclindsey329]

I'm guessing it's every one of them Ron since the gun stores in Indiana don't have any ammo for sale

[@rodfrost5051]

I got it at 3:30 in video. I have been looking for one always wanted one of these.i don't even care what rifle it is in.