Thursday History: Why they’re taking over the affordable boot world

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Rose Anvil

Rose Anvil

Күн бұрын

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@TheGunDude
@TheGunDude 11 ай бұрын
It’s concerning you were going to cancel the video because the initial product sucked and wasn’t what they claim. That’s the info we need to know. Do not hide the terrible things from a company just because it’s sponsored. They need to be put on blast if they’re screwing people. Obviously Thursday isn’t doing that I love Thursday.
@kevinklien90
@kevinklien90 11 ай бұрын
I was also thinking that.
@chanchaiken5522
@chanchaiken5522 11 ай бұрын
But wouldn't that go against the contract/nda they signed for the sponsor?
@borreLore
@borreLore 11 ай бұрын
@@chanchaiken5522 If you're going to honestly review products, don't accept contracts that legally require you to make favourable videos. Of course, creators can do what they want, but that kind of behaviour hurts their reputation as a review channel.
@LimitedWard
@LimitedWard 11 ай бұрын
​@@chanchaiken5522I doubt he signed an NDA. He probably did sign a contract, but if he wasn't planning on making the video anyways he could always pull out of the contract and make an unsponsored video instead.
@Grievas85
@Grievas85 10 ай бұрын
Well, companies don't pay you to do bad ads, do they?
@giovannilangoni1125
@giovannilangoni1125 11 ай бұрын
This has historically been one of my favorite channels but I’ve recently noticed an uptick in “check out why XYZ Boots are killing it” videos sponsored by XYZ Boots. Personally, it makes me more skeptical of what you have to say whereas in the past, I never questioned any of your opinions.
@steveheas7954
@steveheas7954 11 ай бұрын
Same here. Pretty sure he has some stock in Thursday boots and down plays other brands purposely. All of a sudden he's ok with the synthetic materials, like counter and man made soles? He goes hard on better made brands that use good materials. Plus some of these comments here look like the CEO of Thursday wrote them. What's up with that?
@damnjustassignmeone
@damnjustassignmeone 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, very unfortunate. Rose Anvil should take a page from Project Farm. He never accepts sponsors and buys all of the tools he review.
@Stutterstun
@Stutterstun 9 ай бұрын
Gotta pay for his new porsche/house/etc somehow
@PlazDreamweaver
@PlazDreamweaver Ай бұрын
Yeah, I unsubbed when he started doing that. I was one of his first subscribers, too.
@russellhellyer5305
@russellhellyer5305 11 ай бұрын
#1 rule of a being a trusted reviewer is to buy your products off the shelf like the everyman consumer. To do otherwise risks special treatment.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 11 ай бұрын
This is a very fair criticism. It worked out for this video to show some of the back end workings of the boot industry but I think moving forward we will buy a pair independently as well to double check everything. Not that Thursday intentionally sent us a flawed boot 😂but you get the point.
@dontworrybout2664
@dontworrybout2664 11 ай бұрын
@@BopperNoStopperit is. You’re just a low lQ individual
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the #1 rule is to be honest/don't be a liar lol
@BopperNoStopper
@BopperNoStopper 11 ай бұрын
@@RoseAnvil okay i retract. i thought you guys were already buying independently
@frankytanky5076
@frankytanky5076 11 ай бұрын
@@RoseAnvilagreed man you need to do this to actually be impartial. Thursday could easily send you some built up perfect boot for review and likely did. There are so ma y Reddit posts of these boots just falling apart or being unwearable inside a year and their qc in the last while has tanked too. They market incredibly wel that’s the only thing I’ve seen from them, and I see them as basically no different than soemthing like a timberland at this point.
@DMorgan77
@DMorgan77 11 ай бұрын
The obvious question is: how could a customer feel like what they’re ordering is what they expect if there are still boots being shipped out that are lower in quality?
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 11 ай бұрын
As far as I understand it was a small sample batch that they caught the issue on. But one fool proof way to tell is to feel your midsole. I’d be curious if any made it through QC as well. Let me know.
@danielromanczuk4123
@danielromanczuk4123 11 ай бұрын
@@RoseAnvil I ordered a pair of Captain Stormking's over a week ago, hoping I get what I expected. I'll feel the midsole and if there's anything unexpected I'll let you know
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 11 ай бұрын
If anyone does have that issue please send me pics on instagram @rose_anvil and let me know how Thursday responds.
@ericjohanson806
@ericjohanson806 11 ай бұрын
Are there any batch numbers or identifying sku’s that we should use to confirm correct quality?
@purrito4424
@purrito4424 11 ай бұрын
I cut my new boots in half and I'm happy to report they're the newer design with upgraded materials. @@RoseAnvil
@davidelizabeth4933
@davidelizabeth4933 11 ай бұрын
A sample sent directly from the company itself, whether also paying for the video or not, is ALWAYS dubious. If you truly wanted to do it right, you'd buy your samples off the shelf like all other non "influencers". But hey, we all have to make a living.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 11 ай бұрын
It just seems like a paid commercial, so not really any informational value. It's like the cheap earbuds influencers are paid to promote....
@MikeJames.
@MikeJames. 11 ай бұрын
It’s funny how he’s more harsh with the companies that aren’t sponsoring him
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 11 ай бұрын
I have to wonder if any reviews are real, or based on sponsorship $...@@MikeJames.
@0f556
@0f556 11 ай бұрын
THIS
@zosoknight
@zosoknight 11 ай бұрын
He's definitely happy selling his credibility to this company to let them push their own PR narrative under the false impression this is a product review. The only logical conclusion to make here is that they forgot to send out the influencer review boot the first time, and that first boot is the product they're actually selling to everybody.
@REALDEAL-1791
@REALDEAL-1791 11 ай бұрын
Couple of questions 1 why would you cancel the video if the new boot was like the old one aren’t you supposed to give us the truth and 2 did Thursday recall the crappy boots back or they are just letting the customer take it on the chin
@CubeApril
@CubeApril 11 ай бұрын
Thursday is probably the most advertised boot on the planet, don't particularly understand what is “quiet” about it.
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, have I ever seen a Red Wing ad? Trying to remember...
@liljuanito123
@liljuanito123 11 ай бұрын
The over marketing and so many ads is kind of a turn off for me. It's like they are forcing it on me. I hardly saw any Viberg ads and I really wish I had found out about em sooner cause I prefer the fit and quality over other brands. I have tried Thursday boots several times and they just aren't for me. Now the sneakers, I do like from them.
@desireandfire
@desireandfire 11 ай бұрын
@@liljuanito123I bought some Thursday boots and didn't realize how tiny the toe box is, and that it stains my socks
@liljuanito123
@liljuanito123 11 ай бұрын
​@desireandfire i gave up on their boots. Truman, Redwing, Nicks, White's, Wesco to name some others although a bit more expensive but the fits are better imo. For a bit more money you can get a better boot.
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 8 ай бұрын
I think that the boots are ugly.
@bxgreatone87
@bxgreatone87 11 ай бұрын
What’s preventing someone from getting the poor pair that you were first sent?
@user-iu2jg3jf4o
@user-iu2jg3jf4o 11 ай бұрын
nothing they will say whoops my bad
@stephenbennett5240
@stephenbennett5240 11 ай бұрын
He stated in the video that he rushed them by saying he needed it next day. If he would have let them do their quality checks they probably would've found the bad batch. I doubt hardly any of the bad batch are being sent out because they are quality checking them before shipping. I don't know if any are getting through or not but that would be a good reason why he got a bad pair.
@mynameisben123
@mynameisben123 9 ай бұрын
@@stephenbennett5240why didn’t they just give him a regular shoe that was previously made with all the typical QC checks?
@stephenbennett5240
@stephenbennett5240 9 ай бұрын
@@mynameisben123 idk, all companies make mistakes
@thomashardy1851
@thomashardy1851 11 ай бұрын
Remember when poron and latex foam in a boot weren't signs it's high quality, you said it would collapse and harden over time getting rid of all initial comfort, pepridge farm remembers.
@rawr4799
@rawr4799 8 ай бұрын
Pepridge farm never forgets
@pensivebread8262
@pensivebread8262 11 ай бұрын
For the women out there, most of the Thursday women's boots are NOT good year welted but glued. Thats why theyre generally cheaper than the mens line of boots. I bought two pairs before realizing the difference. I do still think the prices are reasonable though
@KevinPassino
@KevinPassino 11 ай бұрын
The Captain in the "Rugged and Resilient" line is goodyear welted but I don't think anything other than those few boots are.
@maryam.m
@maryam.m 11 ай бұрын
That sucks. Why do women never get the same level of quality as men's clothing/accessories, even when we go out of our way to purchase a higher quality product? The whole point was to be able to wear and repair them for years on end.
@EdwardM104
@EdwardM104 11 ай бұрын
@@maryam.m I was astonished when I was in college and my then gf would keep on having shoes fall apart on dates, often first time she wore them out. I experienced similar when I started doing drag as part of some light freshman hazing (don't knock it until you try it, the drag that is)- of course it didn't help that my feet were way too big but heels just fell apart with ease as did lots of the clothes we used. Quality clothing is hard to come by but especially women's clothing.
@Crushenator500
@Crushenator500 11 ай бұрын
@@maryam.m Men typically just get one or two pairs of shoes/boots and keep wearing them over and over until they fall apart. Women follow styles and trends and like to have options and buy a lot more, so the quality is less important since they won't be used as hard. Obviously this isn't true for everyone, but in general it holds up.
@CocoKoi321
@CocoKoi321 11 ай бұрын
Fake
@_bats_
@_bats_ 11 ай бұрын
I mean, that's certainly what they told you. This channel is about cutting boots in half to see how they're actually made and what they're actually made with, totally bypassing all the marketing BS that brands come up with to describe their products and actually showing it to us. We know from so many of your videos that brands lie through their teeth all the time - why should this be any different? Because they told you this convoluted story about some boots being not up to par and huge numbers being rejected? Seems extremely shady to me, especially since they KNEW they were sending a pair out to a KZbin influencer who pushes a lot of weight around with almost a million subscribers. "I thought for sure we'd have to cancel this video." Why, because the boot they sent you wasn't what they claimed it was?
@teekue
@teekue 11 ай бұрын
100%
@alligatorjonesphd
@alligatorjonesphd 11 ай бұрын
The language and tone you're using in this video is so different than almost all of your other videos. I hope the check is real big. I have no issue at all with getting paid for work especially in making KZbin videos which doesn't pay much, but this is egregious.
@alligatorjonesphd
@alligatorjonesphd 11 ай бұрын
Like it's actually insane the hoops you jumped through to explain "so what happened". That they had a manufacturer rip them off, then somehow those boots were isolated to be destroyed, and when they were selecting a pair to send to you that they KNEW you'd cut in half, they accidentally selected a reject and sent it to you? Be so for real.
@a.csarmiento8847
@a.csarmiento8847 2 күн бұрын
and that comment will prob be deleted.
@why6212
@why6212 11 ай бұрын
Thats sounds really sketchy, I'd like to see a secret order later and see what the boot looks like.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 11 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea. Maybe to double check myself we will order a few under a different name and address. But as far as I understand it was a small sample batch. Fortunately you can check for yourself and if you do have the issue I’d reach out to Thursday about it. And also please let me know and send me pics!
@GasMeter_
@GasMeter_ 11 ай бұрын
I too think that it would be a fairer assessment if some were bought anonymously a year later. Just like press cars/products are usually put together better than the general production run.
@Beef_Chen
@Beef_Chen 10 ай бұрын
How could I check for myself without cutting the boot in half?@@RoseAnvil
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 9 ай бұрын
At this point would you even trust him to tell the truth about the order not being shipped direct? At this point it feels like if his findings made his sponsor look bad, he just wouldnt make a video about it. Its already an issue that all of his boots are sent for free from the companies he reviews. I dont see how anyone can trust that when they purchase a boot from Thursday, they would get the influencer quality item we see here and not the regular production item they accidentally sent to him. Only way you would be able to trust any of his reviews would be if he went back to buying the boots himself like when his channel was smaller.
@rosseilersb2196
@rosseilersb2196 11 ай бұрын
You gotta Keith Lee these companies. Go order the pair online without them knowing. Bet they send the "junk" pair 10/10 times.
@christianfritz6333
@christianfritz6333 11 ай бұрын
Oops, we sent that KZbinr a consumer boot, instead of from that specialty run we send to reviewers...... I'm sorry, I don't trust Thursday I think they sell overpriced junk to hipsters.
@Putridkiwi
@Putridkiwi 11 ай бұрын
Bought Thursday boots a few years ago. Still holding up great. But I had an eyelet with a burr that started chewing the lace up immediately. They asked for a picture of the problem, and a picture of the QC inspection card. After that they shipped me a new pair and told me to send the old one to a cobbler or donate it. Great customer service!
@BradCrandall
@BradCrandall 11 ай бұрын
I bought a pair of Thursday Majors and the side zipper broke the first time I tried them on. They didn't offer to expedite a replacement pair or anything. I mentioned my experience on a review left on their website and they deleted my review. I hope the quality has improved but I think it's really shady to remove negative comments.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 11 ай бұрын
it's a company ran by two beta boys what do you expect?
@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty
@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty 9 ай бұрын
Wow. This is unnerving to discover. Thank you for letting the world know. Unfortunate to see business practices like this. I have a pair incoming and I certainly hope my experience is different. Did you ever get this resolved?
@BradCrandall
@BradCrandall 9 ай бұрын
@@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty Although they didn't post my review, I still think Thursday is a decent business and more than likely I just got a faulty pair. The new Majors have a "long lasting Rubi zipper" and this could very well be an improvement over the Majors that I received a few years ago. Thursday was quick to respond to my message regarding the broken zipper and offered to either cover the cost to have a local cobbler fix it or they were willing to exchange my pair and cover all the shipping. The only thing they asked for was a photo of the broken part and another of the quality assurance card that was in the box.
@BradCrandall
@BradCrandall 9 ай бұрын
@@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty The Release Notes on the Majors say that in April 2023 they "Changed zipper to a new supplier with better lab results and longer zipper life guarantee" so this would have improved on the issue that I encountered on my pair from a few years prior to the upgrade..
@PlazDreamweaver
@PlazDreamweaver Ай бұрын
They delete all negative reviews. They also spam your email begging for positive reviews.
@TheKrimsonking1999
@TheKrimsonking1999 11 ай бұрын
The best review channels usually buy their own samples to test then do a give away of the free provided samples.
@nathanhood2415
@nathanhood2415 9 ай бұрын
You saying “I was worried I would have to cancel the video” after the initial boot was not good is VERY concerning and takes all credibility away from my point of view. As a reviewer you NEED to be willing to show the good with the bad, and blatantly saying you would not have done that is quite concerning. I hope in the future you are willing to post reviews with constructive criticism as it gains our trust as viewers.
@theussoul
@theussoul 10 ай бұрын
This is a sponsored ad. Not a review.
@beerson9474
@beerson9474 11 ай бұрын
Not sure I like this sponsor tbh.
@cle_roknn3742
@cle_roknn3742 11 ай бұрын
I have never owned a pair and probably never will. Two different people at work tried them out. The first coworker’s soles separated in less than 6 weeks, totally unacceptable, they did send him a replacement pair that seems to be holding up well. The second coworker ordered a pair of boots and a belt. The boots had a speed lace rivet pop out in the first week. The belt appears to have been two pieces of leather and they split down the middle within the first month as well. Based on these examples I’ll stick to my Iron Rangers and 1000 mile’s, they may cost a bit more, but at least they will hold up…. Thursday’s seem to be a crap shoot, some are decent, others are just junk like they are coming from two drastically different factories…. It also begs the question: what did Thursday’s management team expect when they went to Mexico for production and found cut rate factories willing to manufacture “250,000 worth of boots for a 40,000 deposit”? It’s not like overhead gets magically paid and labor works for free, the factory cut corners and skimped on production costs where they thought no one would notice. Another point here is that the whole point of QC is to prevent “escapes” in the production process, not allowing substandard products to even see the light of day, let alone into a reviewer’s hands. I’d say their QC department is focused on reactive approaches after the substandard products have made it to the customer rather than proactively policing. For the record I’ve been in statistical process control and QC for 10 years, this would have gotten me fired…..
@Niz-ts4rx
@Niz-ts4rx 11 ай бұрын
Thursday has their issues but if you are looking at other $150-200 boots they are definitely on top. This is even the case with the older version that was sent accidentally. I’d take Thursday any day over timberland or docs in terms of quality. There are a few very small brands (like Blkbrd) that I would consider to be superior though. I find it hard to justify Thursdays when you have Red Wing for not too much more. Let’s also not forget Grant Stone B Grades for $180-250 that are a fantastic bargain. Grant stone boots are leagues above Thursday. Thursdays leather just doesn’t feel as premium as the other brands I mentioned. I have Terracotta captains and MitUSA Waxed Cacao loggers that I’m basing this off of. They also have issues with their rubber soles deteriorating quickly. That leads to the philosophical question of whether it’s worth spending $120-$150 for a resole on a pair of $200 boots that you’ve had for a year. Lastly, here’s my obligatory opinion that you should stop doing sponsored videos about products that said sponsors make. You might try to make it sound unbiased, but when they’re providing points for you to talk about and sending you a specific pair to review (versus if you’d ordered anonymously), this video can be described as sketchy at best. The vast majority of us will receive imperfect boots or boots with cut corners because we aren’t influencers who are reviewing the product. Cheers. It was the same with a video you did recently of Grant Stone (?) that was sponsored by GS. I love the boots and agreed with most of your points, but even then it felt so scripted and it seemed like you had some kind of obligation to give them a gleaming review.
@MILKWynn
@MILKWynn 11 ай бұрын
Owning every part of the logistic and supply chain is a great way to ensure quality, supply and cost. If something goes wrong in one step, it affects the rest of it. Its good they invested in their own factory.
@MissingLinkMTB
@MissingLinkMTB 11 ай бұрын
Got a pair of Desperado's from them. Had an issue with the edge of the rubber sole. They sent me a brand new pair. I can't tell you how many miles I've walked or hours I've spent in these boots over the last year because I wear them non-stop. I don't even feel I have to take them off when I'm back in my room relaxing. Love 'em! I'll buy 'em all over again and their customer service was better than expected!!! Gonna look into their offerings for something "outdoorsy" for hiking and just walking the parks.
@mattwilliams7454
@mattwilliams7454 11 ай бұрын
Does this call into question any boot cut in half where the internals aren't what is expected? How do consumers know who to blame?
@wqsif
@wqsif 11 ай бұрын
Sponsored video? If so it should be disclosed clearly.
@strengthandbulkMadness
@strengthandbulkMadness 11 ай бұрын
Wolverine was on the right track with BLVD. They could have took down Thursday but blew it. The lasts were prefect but leathers were uninspiring. Supposedly no cork and shank either. I have a couple BLVDs and they still feel more sturdy than Thursday.
@michaelmorris1802
@michaelmorris1802 11 ай бұрын
One has to wonder what an average Joe gets, probably not the same as what they to people who they know are going to push their product. No way you try to spin it, it’s paid advertising.
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, but they're still mostly OK for the price point for fashion boots, I guess.
@bongatumtum
@bongatumtum 11 ай бұрын
I want to like Thursday, but they're just too damned narrow for me, even on their wider sizings. I've tried two pair of boots and one pair of sneakers and all three felt like I was putting my feet in a vise. Quality and style-wise, the boots weren't really much to write home about, but it was a shame cuz I really dug the look of the sneakers. Having wide feet sucks!!!!
@cheekibreeki9155
@cheekibreeki9155 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried looking into Jim Green if you can use a more workwear look? Their last is awesome
@NoNameNo.5
@NoNameNo.5 11 ай бұрын
Dude, these boots are so lame. This non stop marketing of girl boots ain’t foolin me
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 11 ай бұрын
@@NoNameNo.5 You honestly just sound kinda insecure...
@NobodyWhatsoever
@NobodyWhatsoever 11 ай бұрын
This comment makes me wish there were some way I could try them on without having to play the returns game.
@paulh6101
@paulh6101 11 ай бұрын
What is your shoe size?
@timvibes
@timvibes 11 ай бұрын
My answer: They're slim, modern, priced competitively, enough underfoot cushion while not sacrificing significant durability, and uses above average leather.
@thedawapenjor
@thedawapenjor 11 ай бұрын
In 1 year I got 3 different pairs. The Stompers, Presidents, and Hightop sneakers. Although I love them each of them did some with small different problems. The Stompers have a smooth heel counter so quite a bit of heel slip. The President had the tongue slide way off to the side and I had to get slits made to hold them in place. The Hightop also had the tongue slide all the way to the side even though it already had lace loops to hold them in place. On Reddit, quality control also seems to be an issue as many customers report other similar slight issues such as a toecap being titled, the color of one being different from the other, and general oddities. No deal breakers but still something to think about. Especially for anyone who's ordering from outside the US because although they do free returns you will have to pay to ship them back to the company and depending on where you live you might be paying as much as 25% of your purchase on the exchange alone.
@85bigGMC
@85bigGMC 11 ай бұрын
I know it’s not really what this channel is focused on, but I’ve actually been thinking about getting a coat from Thursday’s thanks to Facebook advertising algorithm figuring me out and would watch a review of what you think about them.
@bartmotorcycle
@bartmotorcycle 11 ай бұрын
Brought to you by Thursday Boot Company
@PlazDreamweaver
@PlazDreamweaver Ай бұрын
I own 9 pairs of Thursday boots over the last 5 years. While their boots used to be great for a stylish-enough look without the need to treat them like a newborn baby, their QA is godawful and has only gotten worse as the company has expanded. Their customer service is incredibly unprofessional, passive-aggressive, and rude. And, worst of all, if you get a factory defect and ask for an exchange (you know, because you paid for a brand new boot, not a factory defect with permanent paint marks, peeling leather, scuffs, incorrect lasts, literally being unfinished, and more), they send factory defects in exchange! They told me themselves. What company does that!? Nowadays, getting a boot without major cosmetic and/or functional defects is like spinning a wheel. I hope they get their QA under control because I used to give Thursday such high praise and was quick to recommend them, but now I recommend alternative brands because I can't ethically recommend someone a brand that sends as many defective products as they do non-defects. Also, the insoles on half my boots have fallen apart. It's a mess. They don't have the same quality they did years ago. As someone who actually buys my own boots and doesn't get them sent for free, I don't recommend Thursday Boots. Actually, this isn't an issue of QA. This is just how Thursday does business. Shady, slimey, and untrustworthy.
@ShanesSquirrelShack
@ShanesSquirrelShack 11 ай бұрын
I’ve had a pair for going on six years now and have held up amazingly.
@greyrat_
@greyrat_ 11 ай бұрын
I've wanted a pair of these all year. Love my loggers.
@RedCoyote
@RedCoyote 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear they're making them a touch wider. I have a pair of Thursdays and after a long day my pinkie toe is aching. Granted I'm normally a flip flop person so maybe I should be looking into the barefoot boots lol. I just hope this means they'll also improve their women's boots. From the looks of it, most of their styles are still cemented construction.
@AppalachianLumberjack
@AppalachianLumberjack 11 ай бұрын
Whatever you do don't get barefoot boots bro just get a wider one
@jt1559
@jt1559 11 ай бұрын
I haven't been able to buy Thursday Boots at this point as I need wide (width E) footwear and they don't have them yet, and sizing up means that it is almost always loose at the heels. Also being overseas means that I have to pay for returns, which can be significant since boots aren't the lightest... If you do have genuinely wide feet, then there are brands that are a bit more expensive (made in the US or UK etc) that make wider shoes and boots. Hopefully Thursday Boots will add the wider size shortly.
@lucasnguyen5009
@lucasnguyen5009 11 ай бұрын
@@jt1559 same issues, l wish I can buy more boots from them. But their boots are just a little bit too long and too narrow
@ThatGuyUpThere
@ThatGuyUpThere 11 ай бұрын
you are using the wrong size, I recently upgraded form 13 size to 14, BEST. DECISION. EVER.
@desireandfire
@desireandfire 11 ай бұрын
@@jt1559Thursday boots force my toes into a very tiny toe box. It's unnatural for our feet. I don't understand why companies can't just make a normal spread out toe box.
@jeffwoodard
@jeffwoodard 11 ай бұрын
Man i really like thursday. Excellent quality for the price. Just awesome. I wear my matte black captains most everyday. I will be buying more boots and plan on getting one of their leather jackets very soon.
@jameslarue2878
@jameslarue2878 11 ай бұрын
I bought two Thursday boots, plain toe and Diplomat. I liked the price point. I learned to appreciate the materials and craftsmanship. But neither last fit me. These days I'm willing to spend a little more on a good boot. But I'm grateful for Thursday's introduction to the hobby.
@Tense
@Tense 11 ай бұрын
What changed for you? I have had my Captain's since 2017 and I wear them roughly 2-3 days a week for this entire time. So, I am curious the failures you had.
@JamieLaRue
@JamieLaRue 11 ай бұрын
​@@Tense I didn't have failures, or not in the sense of something falling apart. Despite some five months of regular wear (alternating between another pair or two), my first pair, Presidents, HURT. They pushed in my big toe. They were just a little loose in the heel. Even though I have a narrow instep, they hurt my instep, too. Didn't make any difference what socks I wore, or time of day. There are two kinds of boots: the kind you can't wait to take off your feet, and the kind you don't want to. I couldn't wait to get out of them. They were no fun to walk in, which was what I wanted them for. I tried the Diplomat at a half size up. Same problems. So I finally gave them both to my son. I don't blame Thursday. Nobody can build a last that fits everybody. But as I understood the shape of my foot better, I also learned that there are boots with better materials and craftsmanship, too. No regrets.
@Tense
@Tense 11 ай бұрын
@@JamieLaRue Thank you for the input.
@SteelKreel
@SteelKreel 11 ай бұрын
I love my Arizona Captains. I also have a pair of their low top sneakers which I like, aside from the very long laces, and the Roadster leather jacket. I just ordered a pair of grey Cavaliers, a pair of high top sneakers, the khaki waxed canvas jacket, and the Racer leather jacket in black. I also got 4 pairs of their boots socks. Can’t wait for them to come in the mail. Thursday was my introduction into the world of high quality leather goods. I’ll prob stick with them for a while before upgrading to the next tier
@LilDietz6
@LilDietz6 11 ай бұрын
@10:40 ... why would you cancel the video if it shows that they were full of shit.... that statement makes me question your integrity and what other brands have you canceled videos for because they werent good.... doing vidoes like this sponsored by the brand youre reviewing cause a massive conflict of interest ESPECIALLY if you were going to cancel it if it wasnt positive. Disappointed
@CubeApril
@CubeApril 11 ай бұрын
Certainly makes me curious as to whether or not they've cancelled videos from other sponsors in the past.
@LilDietz6
@LilDietz6 11 ай бұрын
@@CubeApril yep
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
I'm not as annoyed because they are still a $200 boot, which is about fine for the price, I guess.
@247tubefan
@247tubefan 11 ай бұрын
I wish they made a boot with a slightly bulkier profile. Say 15% more material. I know they design their boots to use the least leather, thereby saving us money. But they can make a premium line now and charge a bit more.
@Larcona_
@Larcona_ 11 ай бұрын
They do, loggers and diplomats come to mind
@smiche2
@smiche2 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say they're influential around the world. They're only relevant in north america. Import tax and shipping add approx. 100$ on the price, which means they're no longer competitively priced. I'm hoping they expand around the world at some point.
@the_33rd
@the_33rd 11 ай бұрын
This ^ in Australia it’s not much more to just get a pair of R.M Williams with everything you just stated. Plus in Australia the exchange rate with the usd is also terrible, only adding more to the cost.
@pMattpful
@pMattpful 11 ай бұрын
@@the_33rd I disagree. I'm in Perth and I've bought 2 Thursdays (1 diplomat and 1 MitUSA vanguard) in the past 4 months. Even the Vanguard was $150 cheaper than the cheapest RMW available. They're by no means cheap (Jim Greens was cheaper), but they're still very competitively priced for the quality.
@smiche2
@smiche2 11 ай бұрын
@@pMattpful In Finland I got myself an iron ranger for about 70 eur more. There's also meermin, bobbies which are priced even lower than Thursday's. I guess in Australia you should be able to get Indonesian hand crafted boots for around the same price with shipping?
@Rimorox
@Rimorox 11 ай бұрын
@@smiche2don’t ever buy meermin boots they have the worst customer service of any brand in the planet
@the_33rd
@the_33rd 11 ай бұрын
@@pMattpful id rather spend $150 extra for an Australian built boot thats far easier to return if issues arise than an imported boot thats notoriously known to be narrow.
@axltothemaxl5368
@axltothemaxl5368 9 ай бұрын
It took me way too long to realize this channel is actually advertising for boots who are sponsoring you
@otterconnor942
@otterconnor942 11 ай бұрын
Thursday should make a traditional line that is leather everywhere they can, rubber only where needed, natural materials throughout (the laces can stay kevlar blended), shit ton of nails, careful attention to detail, and while staying hand made. I'd easily pay an extra $100 for that. Because if I bought Thursdays current boots, I'd probably send them to a cobbler sooner than needed so they can throw in that 15oz veg tan leather insole and replace the lasting board with leather. I want to only be standing on leather, cork, and glue, with a rubber outsole.
@mooncake8254
@mooncake8254 15 күн бұрын
13:07. Whoa! Amazing story telling. Because of real man real style and your video. Back in late 2017. I got my first pair of boots. Still holds up till today. Would like a new pair this coming thanks giving sale. Keep making these videos! It's a relief knowing I am a proud owner of this kind of Legacy. ❤
@Robbajohn
@Robbajohn 11 ай бұрын
I still want to see a work version of the captain. Real toe cap and gusseted tongue would make this a great budget version of the Iron ranger. pricing them around 250 with those improvements would be an excellent value and hopefully would be able to be profitable enough to succeed.
@ddutton0
@ddutton0 11 ай бұрын
That would be great to see
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
agree.
@MiguelMartinez-il9vs
@MiguelMartinez-il9vs 11 ай бұрын
Definitely
@ETY20
@ETY20 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, I'd love to see Thursday produce a true alternative to the IR. The Captain seems great for what it is, but I personally prefer the bulkier style of the IR.
@0num4
@0num4 11 ай бұрын
This is my first full day wearing a brand new pair of Vanguards. So far, so good! Thanks for the recommendation over several previous videos.
@posjoey
@posjoey 10 ай бұрын
I have a pair of the captain storm kings. They’ve been a good boot for a few years now
@kentnewman9462
@kentnewman9462 11 ай бұрын
Just some gentle feedback. I love your channel. I am so grateful for it. But honestly, this felt a bit too far towards watching an infomercial. We know that consumers end up with these boots for factories with poorer qualities. And some of the aspects of that boot looked like ones your would criticize on other boots. Thin cork, thin leather, synthetics all over the place. I get people want lower price boot content, but I don't think that means we need to ignore what is essentially an inferior product. Do you think cork that thin is much use and would last more than a few months?
@BenaiahPS
@BenaiahPS 11 ай бұрын
Like many folks, Thursdays were my introduction to stitched boots. Since getting my first Captains, I have branched out to Jim Greens, Beckett Simonons, and Wolverine Thousand Miles. My Thursday Captains are still my favorites. The Jim Greens are a close second, but my Captains are comfortable, versatile, stylish, and relatively durable. I now own three pairs of Captains and a pair of Presidents.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 11 ай бұрын
except no one cares
@betulaobscura
@betulaobscura 11 ай бұрын
Decent boots. Nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for review!
@davidpalmer9014
@davidpalmer9014 11 ай бұрын
Just what KZbin needed. Another Thursday boots video.
@RS-bn9rx
@RS-bn9rx 11 ай бұрын
Nice to hear the kudos for a quality built boot.. credit where credit is due.
@SmoothGuyTO
@SmoothGuyTO 11 ай бұрын
I have shoes and boots that are over $1K but there is still room in my collection for Thursday Boots. These are not work boots and they're not trying to be. They're like the anti-Red Wing since their overall design aesthetic is to be sleek and not have the bulbous toe. They're style focused so you need to go in with that mindset, otherwise look elsewhere. If you want a large rotation with a wide variety of styles, leathers, and colors that won't break the bank, Thursday is a really great option. I have EE wide feet but going up a half size works well for me in the styles where they only have one width. You just have to figure out your size. I started buying Thursday Boots 5 years ago and so far, I have 4 pairs of Captain, 1 Duke, 2 Scout, 2 Stompers, 2 Wing Tip, and 1 Logger. Yes, I have a problem.😃
@bretfisher7286
@bretfisher7286 11 ай бұрын
I've been looking at Thursday Boots quite a bit. As far as I can tell, they're unusually honest and forthright in what they're doing. It's a message of fairness and high value and honesty in manufacturing-- something desperately needed today in our age of hype and trickery.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 11 ай бұрын
no it's a company ran by two beta boys
@bretfisher7286
@bretfisher7286 11 ай бұрын
@javiervega1065 Ha ha! Oh, look-- we have a toxic male here, speaking! What a delight!
@bretfisher7286
@bretfisher7286 11 ай бұрын
@javiervega1065 If you need attention, find an old woman in your neighborhood who needs her porch swept. Go right up to her and tell her you want to help. Then sweep her porch. That is healthy attention-seeking, see? Instead of healthy attention-seeking, you, like millions of lost Americans, *act* *out* on social media. I understand it. It will *never* *work* for you. Do good things for others, if you want a good life.
@johnieblaze4079
@johnieblaze4079 11 ай бұрын
long time fan but have a complain, the part that, "oh thank god this boot was not a gimmick we would cancel the vid" was bad... get the vid out, shame them if they don't use good materials..
@waxedearth5425
@waxedearth5425 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad Thursday offers they cacao logger boot in above size 11 now. They listen to their customers (I requested a few times)
@keowar
@keowar 11 ай бұрын
i bought my first pair of captains in early 2020, and bought another pair late 2022 and the latter fit SO much better. I thought it was just a slight difference since they are handmade, but the toebox is perfect for my foot now, my old ones squeeze my small toes a bit and make them raw after wearing them for awhile. they are both size 10.
@snellmails
@snellmails 11 ай бұрын
Love Thursdays, love Rose Anvil channel.
@justinpiccolo6811
@justinpiccolo6811 11 ай бұрын
How do you know if you are getting the new version of the boots, from the new factory? I’m sure there has to be leftover stock of the previous version.
@MasterBetty69
@MasterBetty69 11 ай бұрын
Just ordered my first pair. Shadow Grey Cavaliers. I'm a fan
@jakemiller1839
@jakemiller1839 11 ай бұрын
Please do the Chippewa classic 2.0s. I had a pair that I loved right before they discontinued them. Glad they are bringing them back but let’s see inside!!!
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 11 ай бұрын
If they had an option of a flatter sole, I’d go buy one now. I went "barefoot" for a while, and while I don’t buy minimalist shoes anymore, I still like an almost flat footbed. But I appreciate a company with this philosophy
@jamestillman5247
@jamestillman5247 11 ай бұрын
I notice the footbed drop too and its taking some getting use to as my feet are not flat but have low arches. The easy way to correct this is to make them so the insole is removable which I'm hoping they eventually do
@jordan.7
@jordan.7 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I always wanted to buy a Thursday Boot.
@stapleboss
@stapleboss 11 ай бұрын
If I wanted these boots - how long should I wait to make sure they don't send me the crappy version? Sounds like 2000 got through QC, so maybe wait a while?
@ghostmourn
@ghostmourn 11 ай бұрын
Got my Jasper Captains on right now. I love them. ☺
@livingwhiledisabled
@livingwhiledisabled 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had my cCaptains for 3 years and they still going strong and look great!
@roberttaylor4108
@roberttaylor4108 11 ай бұрын
Something I would like to see is testing to see is how hard it is to sheer the heel off the boots you review, I have a pair of wolverine 1000 Mile boots that I managed to knock the heel off when I caught it in a door frame. I feel like the quality of Thursday needs to be revisited in a few months; between the video being sponsored and sending you the Boots, I have a hard time trusting the information and feel like they are just trying to boost sales.
@NormanF62
@NormanF62 8 ай бұрын
I still like my Galibier Super Rando! They were a pain to break in and the Khumbu soles are still going strong. Old fashioned thick leather, the best old school hiking boots money can buy. Now they’re finally comfortable. 😊
@michaelcurtis8515
@michaelcurtis8515 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my Thursday Captains. So much so after purchasing my first pair the next week I got another pair. Comfortable straight out the box.
@Sturnburn772
@Sturnburn772 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Rose Anvil. Thursday is good
@simongrushka983
@simongrushka983 11 ай бұрын
how are they any better than baobab from Jim green?
@ryanmacdougall3740
@ryanmacdougall3740 11 ай бұрын
Good question
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
Arch support or shank? Jim Green is meant for sandy terrain primarily?
@Striker50_
@Striker50_ 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I see Thursday prices going up 📈⬆ Great stuff, but anytime you see more ads and marketing, it means you the consumer are paying for that through higher prices Still a great value as of now
@thartwig
@thartwig 11 ай бұрын
theyre moving into apparel and I am not for it. They are on the road to selling out and moving production to cheaper locations.... Edit: Also even as someone who owns Thursdays, it seems fishy that instead of just making the video with the original pair (which regardless of what you think is on them, not cause for cancelling a review, and indicative of their QC) you let them know and gave them a glowing review for it. Companies do not get points for continuously sending you products for review until you'll say nice things and only nice things. If anything, your chances of getting a shoddy boot is now 50%.
@christiansmyth1466
@christiansmyth1466 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I really like this channel but I think Weston cuts Thursday a lot of slack. I have been thiiiiis close to buying a pair of Legends but I'm just not sure. And videos like this don't do anything to sway me in the "buy" direction 😐
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
agree. is questionable what boots exactly I got sent recently, but I'll wear them anyway to see how they do for a season unless they kill my feet right off the bat...
@MichaelKory
@MichaelKory 11 ай бұрын
I got a pair of Captains last month and already have 2 of them that I bought 2 years ago and was so shocked at the drop in quality. Those were ones I ordered on Amazon -- immediately sent them back and then tried again and got the same thing.
@ShutUpBubi
@ShutUpBubi 11 ай бұрын
Watch the whole video.
@geoffreygulley7635
@geoffreygulley7635 11 ай бұрын
1st problem? Amazon. 2nd problem? Amazon. Now, if this happens directly from their site, I'm all ears.
@CocoKoi321
@CocoKoi321 11 ай бұрын
Id!ot watch whole video
@CocoKoi321
@CocoKoi321 11 ай бұрын
​@geoffreygulley7635 stupid comment You're making no sense Amazon thursdays are just old stock technically, you're just getting less up to date boots
@jamesalexander8393
@jamesalexander8393 11 ай бұрын
I thankfully ordered my first pair of Thursdays (the scout) in March of 2018 to ware for work after seeing a KZbin video. I ordered on their promise of their comfortable outsole. I have knee and back pain issues and found their sole to be the most comfortable of anything I have ever worn in a shoe I can wear to work. Since that first pair I continue to purchase Thursday’s footwear. I suggest them to friends and strangers. I wish I could order their soles cause when they wear I end up throwing them out cause I have not found a comparable sole for replacing
@Stringerbell5
@Stringerbell5 9 ай бұрын
I will say I love this brand. I thought for sure I was a sucker for falling for some ads but they are some awesome boots. Got presidents and captains and I I wouldn’t mind getting a third pair. They’re great man
@JohnPaulHare
@JohnPaulHare 11 ай бұрын
I've been wearing Thursdays since 2018. I have an original first-run pair of their black Aviator wingtip dress shoes, which have held up better than any other dress shoe I've bought in the last ten years. I bought Captains in Brandy in 2019 and never looked back. I wore those boots so hard that I had to buy another pair, which I wore hard enough to tear the upper. Now on pair #3, and so far these have held up much better, albeit with less hard wear as a result of the next two purchases: StormKing Captains and Maverick western boots.. I bought the StormKing Captains in 2020 that have worn well externally despite some really tough conditions (totally soaked them in the rain several times, worked in them, etc). The Maverick western boots are my most recent purchase, and they're my favorite boots now.
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural 11 ай бұрын
I love my Captains BUT the quality control issues are real. Mine came with the tongues all chewed up, loose threads everywhere and the leather was super dry. After less than a year of light use they need a cobbler for the separating heal.They are comfortable. With a little work burning the threads and conditioning the leather I have a nice pair of chromeexcel boots for 200 bucks. I have bought from them since and would again but probably only for the premium leathers. I also bought a pair of durbeys in waxed flesh. They have a minor imperfection in the welt. Purely cosmetic and not that noticeable.
@Highland_Paddy
@Highland_Paddy 11 ай бұрын
yes, for casual usage I find them mostly acceptable for the price if you can find the right size in any given model. they have a whole bunch of models that I am sure are a waste of time.
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural 11 ай бұрын
I’ll add to this, their advertising is not honest. If you wore these into the wilderness they would fall apart.
@Lycan3303
@Lycan3303 11 ай бұрын
They also have a made in América line if anyone is wondering
@ETY20
@ETY20 11 ай бұрын
I wish they'd add something a little bulkier/more bulbous to their line. Something that looks more like an Iron Ranger. Thursday seems like a great company and so I'd love try one of their products, if only they had something that suited my taste a bit more.
@Adversary_Dwimmerlaik
@Adversary_Dwimmerlaik 11 ай бұрын
I have a pair of President and Diplomats I picked up last year, and just ordered Cadets a few weeks ago. Love them all!
@marcborkowski6474
@marcborkowski6474 11 ай бұрын
I have the Matte Black captain, 2 low tops, boat shoes and I just ordered the vanguard and they are all comfortable and holding up nice. Your channel is the reason I found them. Thank you.
@JoeyDecay
@JoeyDecay 11 ай бұрын
Keep me posted about the vanguard. I really like the look of the brown waxed flesh Horween leather one. I think cocoa? They have a sneak in that too. I'd like a pair high-tops in that leather.
@marcborkowski6474
@marcborkowski6474 10 ай бұрын
It’s comfortable and easy to clean and condition. I’d recommend.
@jenniedraws406
@jenniedraws406 11 ай бұрын
I found out about Thursday's boots from here a couple of years ago. I now have two boots from them. I personally like them a lot.
@canadiankrispybacon1450
@canadiankrispybacon1450 11 ай бұрын
I have 4 pairs…well, one pair I picked up for my son. My Thursday Captains, I put approximately 6000hrs in them before I resoled them…which basically cost the price of a new pair. Great boots for the money, however the “Kevlar” laces…suck…lucky to get 6 months out of them. I also have two pairs of Alene Edmonds Dalton’s and love these boots, big jump in the quality of materials, how they’re made and craftsmanship…and don’t get me wrong, I love them…however I can buy 3:1 Thursday boots to AE’s and I struggle to find or justify the price difference. Having said all that, I am curious, why we don’t see videos on the AE’s on this channel 🤔
@mithrandir0704
@mithrandir0704 11 ай бұрын
I love my Thursday boots, I do wish however that they had a roomier toe box.
@henners88
@henners88 11 ай бұрын
Taking over the boot World in general or taking over the boot world in America? They are not common in Europe and aren’t sold in shops or via online retailers here. Buying is a gamble due to high return costs. I’d love to try a pair but Thursday apparently have no plans to set up a distribution network here.
@SpaceMagicStorm
@SpaceMagicStorm 11 ай бұрын
To be fair they make a great boot for the price. Especially the made in America one.
@Fleshcut
@Fleshcut 11 ай бұрын
I really like its design. Probably because it reminds me of my Red Wing Iron Rangers so much.
@handybunny
@handybunny 11 ай бұрын
Thursdays are great. I have Diplomats in black, and brown cocoa Vanguards (which have a Cuban heel). Both pairs are comfortable and look amazing. I don’t think they’ll be wearing out anytime soon either.
@owenpatterson8518
@owenpatterson8518 11 ай бұрын
I’ve had two pairs of their boots and both are showing signs of separation. i’ll wear em until they fall apart. so far Customer Support has been helpful
@dwimors
@dwimors 11 ай бұрын
Big fan of the channel and really appreciate what you do here. Looking through these comments though- it seems like it may be really prudent to get your hands another "regular consumer" pair of these and verify that they're as good as that second pair Thursday sent. If they're that good, they might well be the next shoe I invest in!
@kainenr
@kainenr 11 ай бұрын
PLEASE Thursday make a boot with a thick leather insole instead of the foam! Id buy a whole Thursday collection if they moved to thick leather insoles.
@thehetmos1497
@thehetmos1497 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been wearing my captains everyday since june. Daily wear, Easy hiking, golfing and so on. I’m very pleased with the quality.
@rehmsmeyer
@rehmsmeyer 11 ай бұрын
G-golfing?
@evancortes2156
@evancortes2156 11 ай бұрын
I found out Thursday's from your channel! Thank you for exposing to good quality leather goods
@aiai-j7i
@aiai-j7i 11 ай бұрын
Can you please analyze the Frye Engineer boots? They used to be such great quality. They discontinued the ones (8R and 12R) for women but still sell the men's Engineer 12R boots. They look like they started using cheaper leather. If you look at the previous version of the Gaucho oiled leather versus what they are selling now, it is a whole different look! And they still charge $500. Please cut one open and show how yet another brand sold out and started cutting corners. Many thanks! I am so grateful I have my old pair.
@Syngine
@Syngine 11 ай бұрын
I typically think that you do really good work, and I have learned a TON from your videos, but... It's really dubious doing a sponsored review without a really big callout about "I tell companies that I'm honest with what I find, and just being a sponsor does not guarantee a good review". After that, NEVER review a physical goods product that the company has sent to you, if at all possible. Buy the product under a different name/address so they don't know it's you, and ensure that you get a product just like a normal person. I guarantee that the pair they sent you (the second time) was thoroughly inspected, and they made sure to give you a perfect pair.
@BilbosBrother
@BilbosBrother 7 ай бұрын
I've had these for 3 years. I don't wear them often but they've held up well. My laces did fray after less than 10 wears though.
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