Ross brawn - you have to keep laughing?

Ferrari complaining about the Michelin tyres in 2003

[@JONICRACHATLEITAO]

This guy is in formula since the mid seventys. He started as a Williams mechanic, he is one of the oldest guys. Responsable in a large way for Schummi´s success, and in 2009 builts a car and wins the World championship. Now that´s an F1 career.

[@stlabaleine3927]

Brawn is a genius !

[@ohcumcafodasse]

this comment still relevant!

[@sultanabran1]

he's a sneaky person. he was involved in the regulations of the 2009 cars and also produced a car that featured a loop hole in the regulations.

[@tomwells8093]

@@sultanabran1 It wasn't a loophole. Brawn is and has always been a cheater.

[@wolfgangmarkusgstrein8522]

blah, blah, blah...

[@f1fan40]

4 F1 LEGENDS here: Ross, Patrick, Flavio, Ron

[@IntrinsicPalomides]

And the late, great Charlie. RIP Charlie.

[@bumblebity2902]

Two of them cheats, one of them responsible for Sennna's Death and only Ross are clean.

[@romanbaranovichi5375]

@@bumblebity2902 they all did dodgy stuff, Ross Brawn has fucked around with the rules in 1994, Ron was implicated in Spygate, etc.

[@Catinkontti]

who is patrick?

[@f1fan40]

@@Catinkontti Patrick Head

[@Ihaveanamenowtaken]

So calm and yet, he makes clear he's boss when he says "do you have to keep laughing? Thank you.

[@angstBali]

The guy laughing should have said "I'm only laughing because your explanation is so laughable..."

[@Ihaveanamenowtaken]

Nobody messes with Ross Brawn without suffering the consequences.

[@39rbn61]

cant blame the guy for laughing when ross keeps rubbing his nipples XD

[@OggaDugga]

I would’ve said “yeah I have to, deal with it.” Lmao

[@davidjohnson7917]

I heard the Windows XP balloon tooltip sound at 1:03

[@JT-ko2ib]

That was a Michelin tyre expanding.

[@AeroMad91]

@@JT-ko2ib "Hey, it looks like you're holding a press conference, want help"

[@PAUL1DEANO]

That was Briartore pulling his finger out of his ear.

[@michaelnguyen2611]

I know everyone acknowledges Brawn and Dennis as gods, but i think Pat Symonds is often overlooked as one of the great technical directors too. He took the Williams team from a period of absolute dogs, to their period of brilliance in the 80s and 90s. If anyones got any time, really recommend the Williams Documentary

[@jozerozman]

This sounds interesting, I would like to see the documentary. Could you tell me what the name of it is?

[@lotusraptos]

@@jozerozman Late, I know, but it's called "Williams". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_(film)

[@EAGYSL]

He had a too much old-school approach.

[@TheMrJourneyer]

Pat Symonds would get more recognition today, except his involvement in Crashgate in 2008 forced him out of F1 under a dark cloud.

[@The_ZeroLine]

Wrong, Symonds literally stayed with the same team from 1980 to 2009 (Enstone). He stopped by for two seasons in 2013 though. However, he is one of the elite design chiefs of the last 30 years though. Dennis isn’t a designer. So, he can’t be thought of like Brawn and Symonds who focused 90% on engineering. Instead, Ron was like a turbo charged combination of big picture, operations manager, micro manager, marketing manager, talent account, etc. all in one.

[@JL-gf3yc]

Ross knew exactly what he was doing🤣🤣

[@Denilson24]

The 4 of these were an integral part of F1 driver and constructors titles. From 1980 (bar '83) to 2006 (Ross Brawn took a sabbatical in 07). Then 08 and 09 to finish it off!

[@darylyatestransportblogs]

You could also say the Mercedes dominance since 2014 was because of Ross Brawn building the team up from 2007 (under Honda) up until 2013

[@usedtoexistonce]

the types of team bosses you wouldnt want to piss off and find at the back of the garage

[@tjcadotte37]

This is so epic. Gives me chills when he says can you stop laughing lol

[@ryanchivwara5013]

Brawn reminds me so much of a headmaster at a school

[@stevendasiilva]

Ross ad Patrick are the dinosaur's of F1 and both are great intellects, but we know that sometimes Ferrari makes things like that when they're not doing great.

[@JNST2023]

You forgot about Ron. He's among the dinosaurs aswell :)

[@colejones6312]

@@JNST2023 The biggest of them all. Most successful team principal in history.

[@EAGYSL]

Sorry but no everybody tries to use the rules to the fullest and when you see a competitor uses it in a more extreme way than its the normal way to go to the FIA ask if it is legal if yes you have to develop your own version that's how F1 works.

[@mregaz124]

@@EAGYSL develop your own version WHILE make fia ban the other's.

[@UCZ15]

2003 should've been a much better season. Politics huh.

[@prateekgill27]

It'd be almost scary interviewing ross brawn face to face. The guy must have scared the shi* out of reporters looking to spark controversy at his team's expense, with that look and slow, deep voice.

[@fooolosophy]

"don't laugh, the others are used to seeing me rub my nipple throughout press conferences" was what he meant

[@johnwotoski2976]

Thank god they all have one tyre company now yea Pirelli sucks at times but atleast everyone is on the same playing field

[@RacingAtHome]

Which is less variables/less exciting. Just watch Indy 2003 to find out about how 2 different tyre companies' approach to racing makes for more variety.

[@legoferrari14]

JakeTV And then Indy 2005 happened...

[@RacingAtHome]

And with a single tyre company, that could have been all of the cars which would be worse.

[@legoferrari14]

JakeTV - a major reason that happened was because competition was forcing michelin to focus so much on grip that the durability suffered. Simply put that blowout probably wouldn't have happened, at least not as severely, if Michelin or even Bridgestone dropped out following the 2003, or possibly even the 2004 season, as the tyre standardisation which would've ensued meant that development could be slowed to allow the tyres to be tested more thoroughly before being deployed in racing conditions.

[@RacingAtHome]

The main reason why Bridgestone didn't have the issues was because Firestone was running the Indy 500 earlier that year and was able to give information about the circuit. Michelin didn't have access to that information because Firestone is Bridgestone's American company. It was a new diamond cut surface which cut the tyre and Bridgestone were able to compensate. If it was only Michelin, it would have been even worse as Michelin would still not have access to this information.

[@michaelroberts2023]

When ross brawn says 'we weren't aware of this' the first word that comes into my head is 'lie'. They damn well knew about the michelin tyres, but decided to wait until they weren't dominant. Thankfully, when fernando alonso took the title from ferrari in 2005, ferrari couldn't come up with any political or legal crap, and had no answer.

[@SocietyUnplugged]

The 2005 was a ridiculous season. Bernie knew Ferrari created a special short stint car with massive tire degradation. So at the last minute Bernie introduced the tire change ban. Ferrari complaint but Bernie said that sporting regulation can be changed any time while technical regulation should be announced 1,5 years ahead. Tire rules are part of the sporting regulation and not technical regulation so Bernie did this as late as possible time so Ferrari couldn't prepare properly. Both McLaren and Renault were good on the Michelin tires in 2004 and as expected they fought for the title. It's not really fair to say Ferrari had no answer, they didn't had enough time. But karma is a bitch because that year will not only be recognized as Bernie's most stupid year but also the idiot race in Indianapolis as the worse race in F1's history. F1 started to lose a lot of fans and F1 started to fall down and needed more and more middle-east circuits to make the sport possible. As an CEO [Bernie] you should never bend the rules to end the dominance of an team without regards of the fans or other teams. Because all these constant changes made teams like BMW and Toyota eventually leave the sport. Bernie should have stopped in 2004, after that all decisions made made the sport rarely better. When the tire ban was ended in 2006 Ross build his last Ferrari F1 car for 2007 and it gave Ferrari the championship. It speaks for itself how stupid the 2005 season actually was.

[@aroldoarielzambrano]

You saying this like Ferrari fought for the championship in 2005 lmao, even Toyota seemed stronger and they only beat them because of that horrendous USA GP

[@Narusage]

BMW and Toyoya left due to a Global Crisis and it made honda leave to.

[@marcomolinari94]

"Bernie should have stopped in 2004, after that all decisions made made the sport rarely better." F1 was terrible in 2004 so what are you talking about?

[@itzthedude971]

Society Unplugged Bro those teams left because of the financial crisis and fans in America prefer to support their own racing series so no biggie. F1 still has tens of millions of viewers in all aspects.

[@protztom]

Briatore is just clueless.

[@123dan165]

He did organise crash Gate so he ain't all clueless

[@JT-ko2ib]

@@123dan165 That's why he's quiet here. He's busy thinking 5 years down the line.

[@TheMrJourneyer]

Flav didn’t have a dog in this fight - he was vocal when he wanted to be. As we’d see just 5 years later…

[@deefbogarde8277]

Never knew Severus Snape had been the technical director at Ferrari.

[@mrlardster]

Should have called this Three English men argue with each other while an Italian just watches on lol

[@McLarenMercedes-011]

Ross and Patrick: 😡 Ron: 🤨 Flavio: 😐🍿

[@AmanAli-dc1sy]

You can tell Ross brawn is really struggling to come up with answers to counteract Patrick head points on why they only protested now, they knew exactly what the Michelin tyres were doing all that time.

[@cjsnowdon]

And Bridgestone couldn’t find a reverse engineer of it basically 🤷‍♂️

[@tomwells8093]

It was a lot of crap really. That's why Brawn is so nervous during this interview. Bridgestone tyres also expanded when in use. Michelin just did it a little bit more. Its downright cheating when there is no rule for this, so Ferrari and FIA change it to help Ferrari. Disgraceful!! Brawn is such a cheater with everything he does.

[@MWPompert]

I guess it was a case of knowing what was going on, but as they were not needing to bring it up as they doninated in 2001 and 2002 they kept it in the back of their minds once they get stiffer competition which they did in 2003. Getting lapped by Alonso in Hungary must have made them feel we got to act...

[@kevinprior3549]

Patrick Head really did grill Ross Brawn.

[@kevinprior3549]

@shredderkrang now it's Red Bull that cry and moan when things dont go their way

[@McLarenMercedes-011]

Ross Brawn, Ron Dennis, Patrick Head, Flavio Briatore. Now those are REAL team principals.

[@kevinprior3549]

Four dinosaurs in a press conference lol

[@shedboy4lyf]

You're mad haha

[@Schyderap]

I love how Patrick totally owns Ross in this conversation. Smart, calm, logical.

[@lukasjohnson8385]

Don Conte yes he does. he certainly doesn't get bitch distracted and anxious enough to 1. rub himself. 2. Fire at a reporter.

[@mregaz124]

that was where ferrari won the 2003 championship.

[@JL-gf3yc]

It’s hilarious watching this because he’s so obviously lying🤣

[@Mr.Monaco94]

The most blatant and rigged championship ever - full stop. With 3 races to go Ferrari cries foul to the FIA who then reneges on their agreement to Michelin in order to gift Ferrari/Schumacher with the title. And people call this a sport? In Hungary Ferrari couldn't even make it to the top 8 due to the Michelin dominance and as soon as they were forced to change their tire widths, the Scuderia wins the remaining 3 races of the season. Kimi Raikkonen is the true champion of 2003. Michael has 2 WDC's in the pocket thanks to the FIA - 1994 & 2003

[@jwdoesleagueracing]

tbh, this didn't really give Ferrari that much of an advantage, while yes they did win the final 3 races, let's break those 3 races down. Ferrari whilst yes won in Italy, they didn't dominate the race as Montoya who was on Michelins gave them a run for their money. USA, Michael was lucky to win that race because of the wet conditions and the superior Bridgestone intermediates, when it was dry Kimi who was using Michelins was unstoppable. And in Japan if you think about it, Rubens was lucky to win that race and even have pole because in qualifying it was mixed conditions and on top of that, when the race got going, Montoya passed him at spoon and probably would've won the race had his car not broke down. Even Alonso was harrying him. From what I gathered, nothing got done to the width of the tyres from Michelin, it only effected their development in Monza. The last 2 races they were fine.

[@ChrisMcLaren666]

@@jwdoesleagueracing do you realize the win in Monza was still crucial to win the championship? Even if the last two races weren't an issue for the michelin teams, ferrari still went from a horrible performance in hungary to win the next race thanks to this political gift by fia. A magnificent season ruined by the ferrari/ross brawn political power. Bwoah.

[@jwdoesleagueracing]

@@ChrisMcLaren666 I never said the win wasn't crucial for him to winning the championship, my point was that the Bridgestones didn't have that much of an advantage at Monza as people are making out as Montoya on Michelins still gave them a run for their money. He would've probably had a crack at the win had it not been for Frentzen getting in the way.

[@tomwells8093]

@@jwdoesleagueracing Are you a little touched in the head? It didn't change much? Haha. Ferraris would have been lucky to finish in the points in any of the last 3 races, without them and FIA cheating to make up new rules for tyres. The championship would have been a three way fight in Japan. With either Montoya or Raikkonen taking it. No doubt about it. Even with the tyre change Michael could barely get a point in Japan. Montoya wouldn't have been taken out by Barrichello in USA and also have a penalty when he should have been pitting for wets. FIA did everything they could to have Ferrari win

[@francescosalvato6612]

​@@tomwells8093the same Fia Who stopped Ferrari in 2005....

[@philwoodward4297]

Head and Brawn are both pretty forceful characters. It's a bit like a lot of regulations, including the "no degree of flexibility" regulation for bodywork, in that the rule about the width of the tread applies at all times, but the FIA can only check it at scrutineering. Everyone knew the construction of the Michelin tyre meant it exceeded the allowed tread width during cornering, but Ferrari's assumption was that the when the car came in for post-race scrutineering and the tyre cooled, it would revert to its original shape and, when measured, it would be legal again. When it came to Ferrari's attention that the Michelin tyres weren't reverting to their pre-race dimensions after having completed a race stint, they asked the FIA to check the tread width in post-race scrutineering, which they're entitled to do. The Michelin runners had no grounds to complain about that since the tyre has to conform to the specified dimensions at all times. And for Patrick Head to say they've been using the same mould for two years is irrelevant, because the dimensions of the tyre when it was new wasn't in question. If you change the construction, the dimensions of the tyre may change with use, and that was the allegation.

[@xflynskywlkr27]

Yep well said

[@ryukenhondaraiden]

did you just came with all that garbage out of your ass

[@Jejking]

He didn't, you did Mctavish.

[@ChrisMcLaren666]

You could have listened more carefully to what the michelin man said before writing this wall-of-text of crap. In today's F1 something like this could never happen, worst case scenario they would clarify the rule and make the change mandatory for next season. FIA forced michelin to build a completely new tyre in three weeks. Three freaking weeks. Today Pirelli prepare and build their tyres MONTHS in advance before the race. Michelin had to find a solution in three weeks, in no way they could have kept their performance for Monza. They ruined one of the most exciting and close season in the history of F1.

[@ChrisMcLaren666]

@shredderkrang to OP of course, not you. I agree with you lol

[@WendelRLima]

Ferrari is corrupt , corrotto

[@extrados2019]

There is huge difference between those senior officer from past era and current ones. Those likes Brawn and Dennis indeed look mature and spark respect while the current one like boys

[@ferraziofunco5865]

Those were true team bosses: Flavio Briatore, Ross Brawn, Ron Dennis !!!!

[@TheNiki94]

delete Flavio Briatore from the list please

[@FinSituation]

I was going to thumb up, but then i saw Flavio Briatore and had to put thumbs down. That guy should never be mentioned with F1 ever, anymore.

[@ferraziofunco5865]

sorry i was drunk, guys :p flavio's out :D

[@bogdanrus6272]

Fucking kidding me right? Dennis never knew how to lead a team. It was always people behind him that were the real succes and he always sat in front of a camera letting people hail him for nothing. Look what happens now that all valuable people left McLaren... they're crap. And they keep puting it on Honda.

[@isaacchua0405]

Ferrazio Funco Yet only Ross Brawn has never cheated at least not that we know of...let's hope it really is that way

[@yashsvidixit7169]

Ross Brawn is the BOSS. has gone down in the history of F1

[@kevinprior3549]

Ferrari are the worst sore losers in F1. Love the way Patrick Head really goes for Ross Brawn

[@juanjosepinzon1683]

Everyone is a sore loser in F1, they only lobby against anything more or less illegal that the other teams do if it causes trouble

[@Utsukushi91]

Ferrari is like Apple. If they see competition that could threaten them, they take it to the courts.

[@ciaronsmith4995]

Yes Ross, I do have to keep laughing. You are lying through your teeth to disadvantage the Michelin teams and steal Kimi's championship.

[@shedboy4lyf]

It was never Kimi's title, calm down

[@AlonsoRules]

Ferrari complained, got tyre changes and won the last 3 races

[@H84Gabor]

I used to be a Ferrari fan... until I got to know them better.

[@splash5974]

Gábor Hényel Im sure they'll do ok with out you... 🤣

[@nothingbutsorrow4507]

Let's answer a 1 year old comment to try to be cool LUL

[@splash5974]

NothingButSorrow Thats what KZbin is all about... But thanks for taking the time to add your 2 cents!!

[@splash5974]

@121bham Yup. Agreed. But i think you're either a fan, or not...I find alot of people jump on the bandwagon...

[@el_Regaz]

"why do you waited for 38 races?" "because until i beat you you can """"cheat"""" as much as you want, in the moment i loose that's when i use my ace in the sleeve"

[@PaulMcClennon282]

Back then you needed a thesaurus to fully appreciate the Team Principal shit-slinging. Now a days we just have to try and keep track of how many times Guenther says the F word.

[@rigatosuede4680]

yes i have to keep laughing..

[@bojandolinar1535]

People often laugh when they don't have the arguments. That person could instead throw some strong points to Ross, but he only has innuendos and rich imagination. He's hiding his insecurities behind a laugh.

[@LoudestHoward]

@supercas46 From an Atlas F1 interview with Pierre Dupasquier: "But most importantly, we did not modify our tyre - this year [2004] we ran the same tyre as we did last year [2003], before Hungary. The only thing we changed was added a clear mark on both sides of the tread, to make it more visible and the measurement easier. Other than that, we did not modify anything to it - we didn't even change the mould, it's the same mould."

[@Ferrarista1988]

Could you please give the sounce od this? I find really unlikely that Michelin used a one-year-old spec of tyres during the tyre war with Bridgestone.

[@99EKjohn]

@@Ferrarista1988 This quote is only speaking about dimensions not rubber compound. The tire was exactly the same in dimensions including size of tread. Rubber compounds changed race to race, same as today and they only run 1 manufacturer.

[@Ferrarista1988]

@@99EKjohn Clearly I was also talking of the dimentions. I find it really unlikely that Michelin would keep the same tire structure while being engaged in a very tight competition with Bridgestone.

[@99EKjohn]

@@Ferrarista1988 The dimensions were standardized, they couldn't change them according to the rules, so any changes would be noticeable quite quickly and easily. The dimensions should not have changed in any measurable way.

[@Ferrarista1988]

@@99EKjohn that is exactly why they where violating the rule: they had changed the dimensions in a non measurable way, or at least in a way that could not be detected by the fixed measuring procedure. When they changed it, the breach of the regulation emerged.

[@aroldoarielzambrano]

lmao when Ferrari had radioactive material on their cars

[@PimSchouten]

Wait what?

[@arlindleci]

What??

[@alesksander]

Ilmor used cancerogenic material beryllium for pistons and conrods. If rules dont stipulate anything. Sky is the limit.

[@mregaz124]

@@alesksander and ferrari used uranium for bellast

[@alesksander]

@@mregaz124 Witch is mental and sick. Haha military use it why dont F1 hahah

[@claudioschumi87]

Its funny how people complained that Ferrari were cheating where in fact all the teams moaned about Ferrari dominance and had to get the FIA by changing the rules. Just look at 2005 no tyre changes throughout the race no one complained and everyone was happy because Ferrari was not winning. Where was the tin foil hats gang back then ?

[@bojandolinar1535]

Exactly! Not to mention that we know who broke the rules in the tyre wars, even if unintentionally, and yet it is Ross who is under the fire here.

[@alesksander]

Plus rules about difuzer in last minute in December. Witch directly hamper Ferrari because fundamental architecture of their gearbox cannot use new difuzer volume effectively and redesign were necessarily.

[@mregaz124]

@@alesksander shits like this happens every time, did you remember berillium's ban againts mercedes?

[@alesksander]

@@mregaz124 Yeah ofc. BUt some times late rule chages are directly aimaed at specific teams and areas in witch are they good. Hence Ferrari in 2004. :d Now we had 2022 aimed at RB, but backfired spetacullary, Also there are examples for 2009, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2020. all examples where rules are just tools to scrambble competition under or in name safety, cost or "spirit of rules". :D Its part of "formula" in Formula 1.

[@el_Regaz]

as Italian i must face everytime with the tifosi complaining crap like "fia did it on purpose to stop ferrari blablablabla" but then they seem to forget what fia did for them back in thise years, especially in 2003. imho i think the 2005 was just a simple vengeance from michelin.

[@maz2044]

4 powerful men!!!

[@diogo505]

Ron and Flavio look like 2 scarecrows...

[@elta6241]

Back when the FIA was Ferrari International Assistance. It wasn't just one occasion when this happened but with multiple interpretations of rules they got away with. This was when Ferrari realised Bridgestone were falling seriously behind.

[@shedboy4lyf]

Explain 2005 then

[@francescosalvato6612]

so if Fia is Ferrari International Assistance, explain 2005 with that stupid rules that come only to stop them...

[@MrPotato16]

I miss tire wars

[@criteriumgaming9457]

This video was uploaded before Brawn won a constructor's championship

[@natazeze]

no shit?

[@zplol]

F1 drama at its best.... I miss those days....

[@me89360]

lol, sound like a teacher

[@dougpryce92]

thats brilliant!

[@musculusiv4172]

I know Brawn is a legend but he got the FIA to rig the Championship in his favour and he new it. The journalist was right to laugh

[@hhJACK92]

If we don't have it on our car, it must be illegal. That's the Ferrari motto!

[@eddohan]

@kathrynashworth1 To comfort himself (bodylanguage :)) as he was kinda confronted by Patrick Head.

[@ChristopheMICLO]

GOUD ACCENT INGLISH :p

[@powersliding]

ross brawn talks like he is high

[@luis-yx752]

ROBBED

[@isftish]

well....we had a bunch of people saying ferrari are whiny pussies, and then we had the exploding michelins at indianapolis. maybe michelins were cutting their tyre too fine.

[@simonwolfie2]

Ross smashed it that day

[@brendanmccallion2350]

These are heavyweights

[@duannejacksonbox]

@MrPoundNote you say that other teams let their drivers race each other but you watch at the end of the season when its vettel v hamilton in the final race of the championship there'll be team orders flying left right and centre. the fact that jean todt is the president of the fia has little/no effect on the decision made yesterday he was voted into that post, it is a rule that has to be changed so that either it is scrapped or a much harsher punishment is given

[@ducati916SPS]

4 sharp switched on Operator's

[@NicotineRosberg]

Typical Ferrari politics and Brawn is a politician

[@nobody-wk6ej]

I would have kept laughing.

[@parthlad]

Brawn is the only guy amongst those 4 to have ended his tenure with his team (s).... without any of his decisions putting his team back. Briatore and Crashgate, Patrick Head and his ego play over Adrian Newey and Ron Dennis....where to begin lol

[@jozerozman]

"There were two..four, four people present. Four from the FIA and two of us" So I guess that's six people, not two, err four :)

[@titoc1973]

Looooool 😂🤣😂

[@constantine4711]

@hhJACK92 that was ross brawn and jean todt's motto

[@PATTYZ102]

Ron want cheeseburger

[@manusiaganteng2753]

Can someone explain the context of this controversy?

[@ryukenhondaraiden]

look the michellin tyres would get a few inches wider when there used during the races and ferrari whent bitching to the fia so michellin would change the tyre. so then michellin had to make new type of tyre for the rest of the season and thats why schumacher won in 2003 and yea ferrari were on there asss when its accure cuz there werent winning shit you can look the seasons standings from 2003 after hungary they started to wing again.right after michellin had to change there tyre

[@dominartyrant9014]

"and thats why schumacher won in 2003" BS

[@IndyB25]

F1's neutral side. XD

[@Lesmo96]

briatore looks as he was hit by an lightning lol^^ his hairstyle ^^

[@bojandolinar1535]

He's just fucked a stunning model and is wondering whom to fuck next.

[@FaithHealer1]

@rdtli Interestingly, on those terms, you're also wrong. Relatively speaking, Brawn GP is the most successful F1 team, with a 100% constructors and drivers championship win rate.

[@marcusaureliusantoninusaug2161]

Ross Brawn: 8 Constructor's Championships, enough said. He totally put Patrick Head in his place. People still mad McLaren and Williams couldn't beat Ferrari even when the FIA changed the rules basically every year from 2002 onwards to break Ferrari's dominance, which only happened in 2005 after they found the one weak link, the Bridgestone tyres construction which wasn't suited to do a whole race distance, so the FIA made it mandatory in 2005 for tyres to do a full race distance...

[@tomwells8093]

Do you not understand what happened here? Ferrari and FIA made up a new tyre ruling because they were getting beat. Changed it with a few races left so Ferrari would win. If that's not cheating I don't know what is

[@123dan165]

Poor Ross he seems very uncomfortable poor guy, it must have been somewhat embarrassing.

[@kppphd]

@Firatjik You made me laugh again... Hahahaha

[@michaelroberts2023]

I don't see how anyone can possibly side with ferrari in this. If you have to wait that long to make a complaint against your rivals, yet before you didn't give a crap when you were oh so dominant, then something is seriously wrong.

[@66PHILB]

Ah the good old days of FIA = Ferrari International Assistance & Sir Patrick shows me why I've been a Williams fan since 1981!

[@shedboy4lyf]

That's why they screwed Ferrari over in 2005, right?

[@123dan165]

@@shedboy4lyf they only did that to not make things obvious. Only kidding loool Ferrari earned every bit of their success.

[@francescosalvato6612]

​@@123dan165 we can say the same of others

[@SuperR1991]

I think if ferrari would use michellin tyres in 05 And 06 schumacher would have won the championship those 2 yrs

[@JT-ko2ib]

Their car wasn't designed to suit them, so hard to say.

[@dario272]

@MrPoundNote Todt being the president of FIA has nothing to do with penalties given out in race tracks, is not his job, there's stewards for that, he doesn't penalize any event that takes place under FIA being Rally, GT or whatever... it works like that in any company, the president has other jobs, and like any other president of any company, or organization, his job is being monitored by many.

[@gabrielthornmusic]

@brucecheewai Absolutely true, so do I.

[@AhBen567]

@rdtli Wrong, Brawn GP is most successful if you're gonna count it that way.

[@michaelroberts2023]

So ferrari could have complained at imola 2001, but then they decided, no we'll wait until barrichello has 2 successive reitrements in a row, and when michael schumacher has 1 eighth place finish and one seventh place finish. Not during the season where we are dominant. No let's wait until we're backed into a corner.

[@billkent6037]

Ferrari cheating yet again

[@MastaMS21]

Typical Ferrari : they were losing the champ', so they complained about an technical advantage which was okay all the time and now banned by the FIA because Ferrari said so. They did the same with McLaren in 98 with their breaking system and Renault in 2006 with mass dumper

[@xflynskywlkr27]

MastaMS21 yeah, Ferrari should just sit there and let other teams get away with cheating. Don't blame them , blame Michelin for not adhering to the rules. oh and FYI, it was McLaren who protested the mass damper in 2006, not Ferrari

[@AidanMillward]

Considering Ferrari got Bridgestone to make the tyres specifically to fit their car and their car only, they are the last people that can cry about unfair advantages.

[@xflynskywlkr27]

There was no rule stopping other teams from doing the same with Michelin. Whine about Ferrari all you want, but they weren't the ones breaking the rules.

[@MastaMS21]

Michelin wasn't cheating. Everybody knew Michelin made wider tyres in 2003 and during the whole summer, FIA said they were legal. Then, after Hungary when Ferrari made his worst perf of the year, they suddenly claim Michelin tyres are illegal and then FIA decided to change the rule in order to make Michelin illegal. Nobody can deny this fact : FIA was Ferrari International Assistance for years and even not F1 fans saw that. (Yes it was McLaren who protested in 2006, my bad. But Ferrari was once again the team which benefit from this)

[@AidanMillward]

MastaMS21 f1 fans knew the FIA was up Ferrari's arse. It's Ferrari fans that don't admit it 😆

[@nothke]

@Firatjik The whole scene looks like its happening in Azkaban!

[@techtipsuk]

Back when F1 was proper F1 not the shite PC corporate BS we have now. Proper team bosses.

[@renzo0227]

Back when F1 was a serious sport, not a circus full of clowns. Only Kimi and Alonso are left and when these two leave for good, F1 will go further down

[@thistoob]

Ferrari wins some back then & lose lot these days.

[@ChromePuPXD]

Fast forward the rubbish. Action happens 1:54.

[@kevinprior3549]

Ferrari are so full of BS

[@hamlettelmah441]

Ross Brawn is Ross Brawn a fucking legend and Patrick Head is a deep shit. Head hasn't done shit for ages, Brawn on the other hand has won as recently as few years ago.

[@supercooled]

you'd be interested to k ow head gave ross his first job.

[@Jejking]

Don't disrespect Head for his accomplishments, even though his are less recent than Brawn's. He wasn't knighted without a very good reason.

[@lukasjohnson8385]

Hamlet telmaH Well...what great logic. Given all the facts.....sheesh

[@Richardtv1968]

Looks like Brawn wasn’t been criticized much those days ...... a little tirannic

[@JontieDesario]

this painful to watch, talk about not having a leg to stand on.

[@RikiJasmin]

@FreeYourMind911 LOL

[@rdtli]

@bilalp1 YOU RE WRONG MATE...IF YOU PUT IN A RELATIVE WAY...MCLAREN IS THE MOST SUCCESFULL..THEY VE STARTED ON THE 70 S ..AND FERRARI ON THE 50´S ...SO YOU RE WRONG. MCLAREN FOREVER.

[@CicaeMeow]

But now Ferrari is back in their original position ( nowhere near to the best teams ). So finally their cheting paid off :)

[@lucamaini4492]

Says the one that support the masters of cheating of the last years. 😂😂

[@lucamaini4492]

Williams and McLaren and Renault are even behind, so the wrong mentality is not always in the ferrari garage. Sorry my friend

[@francescosalvato6612]

Ah yes the others are Always clear and respectful?

[@michaelroberts2023]

For those who believe the tyre wasn't modified, how does michael schumacher go from an eigth place finish to winning the italian grand prix in the fastest average speed of all time in f1? Not forgetting they had 38 races to complain, and decided to wait until that point when they were struggling. I'm sure michelin had to modify the tyre at some point, even if michelin said they didn't. How do we know?

[@GTAGIS]

Benetton 1994 : illegal traction control and cheating with refuelling system : Todt, Brawn, Byrne, Schuey. Ferrari : 1997 illegal 3D throttle Todt, Brawn, Byrne, Schuey. Ferrari 1997 Jerez Schuey lying, Todt, Brawn lying too on the incident Ferrari 1999 : illegal bardge boards Todt, Brawn, Byrne Ferrari 2004 ; Bridgestone illegal chemical treatment Todt, Brawn, Byrne, Schuey Ferrari 2006 Monaco : Schuey cheating , lying, team also lying Mercedes 2013 : Pirelli : illegal test

[@tomp6792]

GTAGIS You’re talking out of your arse

[@eby6613]

@@tomp6792 how? Its pretty factuall

[@1greenMitsi]

Ferrari: cheats

[@TheTororist]

ferrari 2018: illegal twin battery unit, stopped by additional FIA sensors

[@tomwells8093]

Don't forget that Brawn and the rest of his chest team also get the FIA to make up new rules to ban competitors innovations. Like McLaren second brake, Renaults Mass Damper, etc. Ultimate cheating was 2009 with the double diffuser. Hes a disgrace to F1 and the world in general.

[@Und1234]

I agree. 2003 was a brilliant season, but it was ruined by Ferrari's political bullshit.