Ross-On-Wye | Season 5 Episode 9 | Grand Designs UK With Kevin McCloud | Full Episode

[@swanvictor887]

only a few minutes in, had my first laugh: The couple "Convinced" the local farmer to sell the Barn to them for 250,000 pounds!! Yeah...I bet he really needed 'Convincing' !! My guess he could barely breath trying to suppress his laughter...!😂😂

[@rogeriolisto]

Marketing 😅

[@atoms-to-atoms]

Yes the last farmer that felt like this was from a short story from R Dahl🤣 when he sold a table to a dodgy priest.

[@kmbn1967]

I wondered at that price....probably it includes all those hills that surround it.

[@swanvictor887]

@@kmbn1967 I'm not sure about that Karen, I think the price was just for the field the barn was in. If it did include the hills, then that's a good price lol. Today, it would be worth quite a bit more. Back then, $250k for an old barn was a good deal - for the farmer! lol.

[@leannakeyes5579]

Jane: All I need an architect for is the drawings. Also Jane: doesn’t look at the drawings.

[@drrydog]

also Jane: "everyone is dumb except me"

[@shinnerz4047]

I don't think she knows how to look at drawings.

[@wallyshedd3157]

As a civil engineer, it seems a lot of the projects problems come down to the Project Manager (Jane) being unable to read drawings.

[@limbitsafe6620]

yep! and people don't want to humble themselves and just say they need help

[@StanslaMichael]

First contract did the right thing after the concrete fiasco, submit a cost that they will not accept and walk away.

[@drrydog]

Only a real builder, knows why your comment is spot on.

[@albertsandberg]

Yet, it seemed farily accurate by the end.

[@MrMilwaukee]

This is what happens when people believe they can do something they can’t because true professionals make it “look” simple

[@pvpeet9374]

Two designers and the first thing that comes up after starting the project is that they missed the slope?! Off to a good start. And the project management of Jane was a sight to behold as well.

[@drrydog]

lol

[@ginacrusco234]

The ways they were able to bring light in -- so that you don't feel that you're living in a dank old barn -- were ingenious and effective. Won't comment on the personalities (there's been more than enough of that) but the house is stunning.

[@cpoller]

Yup design was great imo.

[@michaelcrSA]

15:16 Architect thinking "Well yes there would be more communication between us if the client actually paid me for this stage of the project - which she is not"

[@gwenvanrensburg6830]

Have been watching this program for 30 years..luvit +love Kevin 💞💞💞

[@janemothra]

Wow Jane can’t manage the job correctly, but it’s every one else’s fault? I hope she rewatched this and had some self awareness, but not likely.

[@drrydog]

her type never looks candidly at a video of herself

[@MSerhasNOfilter]

IKR!?

[@ouiouane8311]

So unpleasant she was hard to watch

[@curbowman]

The recuring theme in most Grand Designs episodes is: "Hire an architect!!!"

[@marcelcicort9671]

I think that moat people are clueless or stubborn in over designing things they don't afford, or have too big of egos or are oute and simple dumb.. 2+2 don't equal 7. Most buildings are way over complicated and while the finished product is good, I simply don't understand why are they all complicate matters so much! Aren't they letting Architects sell them on buildings they cannot afford or their ego is bigger than their wallets.. I see recurring themes at all times.. It barely makes any sense.. why are these poor people overcomplicate matters? Their quality of life don't improve by spending 20-40% more than they desire!

[@ronnymcdonald2543]

Only if yr not a builder - architects make mistakes, but self builds by novice / project mangers almost always end in tears.

[@cgcomer]

As someone with a degree in Landscape Architecture, I don't understand how the slope was missed. In fact, I don't understand how the Architect managed to design anything without an accurate and up-to-date site and building survey. In fact, the site survey is literally the very first thing any Architect or LA would have done in the States, regardless of whether it is new construction or a complete conversion like this. Understanding the buildings' relationship to the ground it is sitting on is imperative. I'm just truly baffled. And that's before you get to the point that no one realized there was no foundation, which should have been caught during the site survey. I am at a loss for words for how any competent, licensed architect could have gotten as far as dirt work without knowing any of this beforehand. And, do Project Managers in Britain not have to have any sort of license? In my experience in the US (and this is in the Arch, LA, Civil Eng. space) first have to have education, experience and licenses in their given field, then have to meet specific licensing requirements to be a Project Manager in this particular industry. Is that not the case in Britain?

[@Bonserak23]

Did they not take measurements of the building apart from the envelope or check the foundation or integrity of the masonry before making drawings? lol. As an Architect that is on the list of first things to think about, I could understand if you were getting measurements and site plans over email or the phone, but they were sitting in the same room.

[@cpoller]

The Owner mentioned “We” thought we could fit it in there on the drawings but once we got it laid out in real dimensions it is too small (or something like that). To me that is code for, the architect told us but we ignored him. That or they are cheap & didn’t want to pay for a site survey and just gave him dimensions that they measured but didn’t realize it sloped

[@cgcomer]

@@cpoller In my experience, a site survey isn't optional. It's literally the very first step once an Architect, LA, or Engineer is hired. In fact, I'm pretty confident most jurisdictions (again US) wouldn't approve any construction or dirt work without evidence of a “current conditions” site survey as the first step in the design process. That site survey ensures that any slope conditions, drainage, preexisting structures, soil conditions and buried utilities (or other underground conditions) are all known and accounted for.

[@cpoller]

@@cgcomer I have a degree in Architecture and worked for about 6 years before I went on to the construction side, and now do home remodels mostly. I agree a site survey “should” be the first part. I just have been around many cheap clients that only want the architect to do the design drawings (not even construction drawings) and they will have the contractor figure things out from that. Best case is they had the contractor do the site measurements and look at the site before doing the design drawings, worst case, they go do some basic measurements themselves for the the arch and leave out tons of important info. I am not sure about UK, but I am in Texas and while the incorporated urban and suburban areas do require what you say but, in the rural unincorporated areas, you are pretty much free to do whatever you want with your land and property. I helped a friend buy properties to turn into vacation rentals in the HIll country and there are only some small requirements from the county regarding bldg sq ft (for taxes) & some septic / ground water contamination type stuff, but there is no one requiring detailed surveys with elevation changes or coming around to check construction code. I would think UK would be more strict than Texas though in this regard, but IDK.

[@williammorales9826]

The reason why they didn't notice the slope is because they have one leg shorter than the other...had to say it but this what crossed my mind seeing the video

[@MSerhasNOfilter]

Oh my gosh, these arrogant, ignorant, furniture designers are so annoying! Jane’s got some nerve saying they didn’t get their money’s worth from the first contractor 😡. What horrific people they are.

[@thelostone6981]

There’s a saying lawyers (solicitors) like to us here in the US, “anyone who represents themselves in court has a fool for a client”. This person being the project manager has a fool for a client.

[@huohization]

I've never done anything related to construction and even I thought instantly there's no way there's foundation on that barn. People are so naive thinking they can just begin calling shots on a house build with zero experience.

[@NiekKuijpers]

What made you think that?

[@birdolla4441]

She says "Like managing 8 to 12 year olds"! What arrogance, or is that ignorance. The skill levels involved are obviously way out of her comprehension. As a builder of over 30 years I would never let a customer run a job like this.

[@germanbeer2466]

Totally agree with you

[@marcelcicort9671]

Clueless PM 😮

[@cferryone]

In my experience, 20+ years, many times it has felt like the age range is closer to 2 year olds! People come to site tired, hung over, mad at their partners and or kids/family and just need a time out after not being nice to co-workers or a tissue for their tears that the project does not revolve around them. Construction managers manage the people and the construction.

[@michaelgabriel7919]

It might have been a nightmare to build... but it is a stunning design. From the roofline appearing to float above the walls...to the central cross and walkways of glass... it's impressive. Inside the 'wow' element continues with the choices of wood, the textures and colors... and amazing lighting.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

Jane blames everyone else, it's never her fault. Remind you of anyone who's just resigned in disgrace?

[@drrydog]

for real

[@kmbn1967]

Wow!!! I love the building! It's really timeless looking. I'm sure All those castles and old great houses that were built caused just as much problems as this one did. In the end No one remembers the overruns and headaches, they just see the beauty and wonder of great architecture. I love it.

[@mr.p9197]

Whenever the person in charge starts with "All you have to do is" trust in the fact they don't actually know what to do.

[@kmbn1967]

Yep. Just experienced this

[@verysad2036]

Fantastic skills with the wood, love watching them

[@radoslavtomov9121]

Very nice house, however i would expect to be extremely energy inefficient. I expect that the comfort levels during the winter months are very poor.

[@TheDrachenboot]

Poor old Jane has the gift of alienating everyone she works with - the epitome of a slave-driver. Still, the building looks good. I love it!

[@janegardener1662]

Bathrooms with no ceilings so all sounds and smells travel throughout the house? How...unappealing.

[@ivarmarkusson382]

first thing i noticed ;D

[@alias_EP]

Clients 'dont get on" with people who tell them things they dont want to hear...love the way she hand balls all the problems to others mind you she started with a budget and no plans...

[@dr.rebeccastout1878]

I'm so glad you did the Q&A. Answered so many questions I had.

[@birdolla4441]

I can't imagine what their heating bill will be

[@richardwebb2348]

Unfortunately, 'Building Your Custom Home For Dummies' was not published until after 'Jane Dunning-Kruger built her house.

[@АндрейБ-х5п]

Одна из лучших реконструкций старого строения !

[@informationcollectionpost3257]

Have observed projects like this. (like my new kitchen, but we will not go into that) If it was America, where you don't have as many codes, You just use an insulated slab on the first floor 9you first place your closed cell foam panels on the floor, add rebar, then pour the cement over all of it) Where the ceiling gets too low on the first floor You cut the second floor off and add a railing and then build that room with a cathedral ceiling. You add or make your own glue laminated timbers for the roof from stock lumber sizes, and then bolt them together with steel gussets. The process is called making the design up as you go or ad-libbing. ( codes in in the USA would permit this. Of course when you are done, none of it would resemble your drawings. ( a possible problem with some building inspectors depending on the township your building your house in, make sure the permitting laws specify "Open Permitting" if in the USA, a fancy way of specifying that anything is permitted provided it it safe) I am so glad that I am not in Scotland or the UK.

[@katella]

I don't understand the zigzag positioning of the large glass doors and windows above. Wouldn't it have been cheaper, cleaner easier to make them in a straight line while also increasing visibility? Can anyone explain why they did them this way?

[@william4661]

I think it's great they did that. Just flat/straight glass would've been way more boring that these steel/angled windows. I know that's not an answer to your question, but the answer to your question is that they did it because they're them. They're not you.

[@katella]

@@william4661 of course. People should do as they like with their homes. I was just wondering if there was any practical reason for placing the windows that way that I wasn't able to see.

[@topaventador4064]

Jane : is everything is this story , what a nightmare to deal with her . Completely lost of self awareness. , and what a total stressful character.

[@mikecranapple8878]

Although Jane was a poor communicator & manager, the architect FAILED to note on the plans where the "setting-out point" is for the slab. @14:00 the architect avoids the question but says he verbally told people about it. It should have been on the plans.

[@kmbn1967]

Exactly. Shouldn't a plan be self explanatory, especially if its being done to fix a major issue? And just for greater assurance, thoroughly gone thru? But the architect's issue is they didn't pay him for this part

[@cpoller]

From someone in the industry, Based on the fact they did not have the architect do site survey done on the building to catch that it was sloped and had no foundation, I think they paid this architect for only a design/ 3D rendering, but not for anything else like construction documents which would be more detailed. They could measure within that 3d program but they are inaccurate because of the slope they didnt know about. TLDR they only paid the architect for 1 part of a complex and complicated design process.

[@m.r.6222]

It is insane that the architect did not figure out all the foundation issues before he made the drawings. I mean, how could that happen? Crazy that the architect did not tell them that since he wasn't on a "full contract" they needed to excavate it themselves to check for rock foundations. And Jane, don't get me started! "But logically, if you look at the base of the wall to the dirt, this is where the cement foundation should go. Are you serious?! They paid for her know-how.

[@rdb4996]

Had to look it up; this aired in 2005. Now they might not have had fancy computer programs that could model the build, but for sure they could draw the plans in 3D. That would have been a big help... But what do I know 😂

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

I'm glad She's living out in the middle of nowhere.

[@andreaandrea6716]

The arrogance of saying you don't need an Architect and then, when YOU screw up, you blame it on the Architect and Builder. Jesus. NOT a good start. You ASK, YOU ASK again. Always DOUBLE CHECK. She is a piece of work.

[@eleanoreagly4844]

Insulation???

[@mirandajanecaird4454]

I am confused. You only have to look at the barn to see the difference in height at the ends.

[@BrookGarretson]

Did they replace the broken roof slate?

[@heatherdobson2289]

Architects never back down from their fancy ideas no matter the cost

[@andrewjones-productions]

Jane thinks that she was right to project manage the build as "you can only blame oneself", but actually blames everyone and anyone but for herself. As for barns, old sheds and old farmhouses not having foundations, this is common sense and common knowledge if you are from the country. At the very least, the architect should and I stress SHOULD, know that. Nevertheless, despite all of the naivety, stupidity and careless mistakes, the finished home is absolutely beautiful.

[@starling86]

10 minutes in and there is so much to be annoyed about... from the apparent sense of entitlement, heightened sense of ones own abilities, lack of budget, lack of foresight, ...

[@shinnerz4047]

26:27 Did she just say "it's like managing 8 to 12 year olds?". If the builders are 8 years olds, she's like a five year old trying to teach 8 year olds how to do stuff. No building knowledge at all. When she went into the steel workshop, she couldn't even see which part of the house those were for... she had the architect explaining it all to her.

[@JWT7745]

Is this filmed on 2000's era button-phone ?

[@dcat6093]

When you try to do things on the cheap -- not paying an architect to work through the project and not hiring a professional PM -- it's always a disaster. We see this again and again on this show. You get what you pay for. The rules aren't different for anyone.

[@jjcooney9758]

Terrible clients, difficult to work with, cheap and blames everyone but themselves for this. Why do you think projects have a manager??? I don’t like them but I understand their importance. Bummer, imagine what could have been?

[@Claudi.128]

Let professionals handle it, always

[@limbitsafe6620]

she could've had input but yes she should've trusted those who know what their doing rather than trying to make everything her way

[@philipvanderwaal6817]

Blame ,blame , blame , and it wasn’t my mistake

[@relocatetoEUROPE]

Turned out beautifully. They could never have bought anything as wonderful for double the money. They got what they wanted

[@jamesbensley7914]

What a nightmare she must be to live with poor old sod. The way he says get on with it shout of a broken man.

[@alicemoller]

Sorry Jane you will never blame yourself.

[@sararichardson737]

In the raw, a lovely old barn.

[@kiminnehalem8669]

Be ready to cover your eyes and ears!!!

[@cferryone]

On This show, so many, inexperienced owners do the project management and this time the owner had to fight the architect and builders the entire time. So hard to watch some times. The architect was pissy he didn’t get paid to do what he wanted to do so he sabotaged the project by not communicating, his entire job!! Then the builder decides they don’t want to coordinate with anyone else on the site. Fun all around.

[@susanharris5926]

What a lesson in how to buy an old barn for renovation without taking absolutely everything about its current condition and original construction into consideration and what you need to do - and then pay the price. Her budget of 250K struck me immediately as way unrealistic. They were both way of out of their depth with this project.

[@davidgarton2387]

I know building is stressful, but my God , that Jane is a horrendous person. First contractor knows hiw lucky he his I'm sure. 😂

[@shinnerz4047]

The first builder offered them a fixed contract of 400k and she sent them off saying it's way over her budget. She ends up spending more than 400k.

[@SaffaInNewZealand]

Did she really say , “last bastions of the male chauvinistic pig” good gracious. Imagine being the builders and watching this afterwards and now knowing that’s what she thought of you at the time.

[@marissirsons3706]

Very nice

[@starling86]

"The last bastion of the male chauvinist pig is..." wait, the building trade or the tory party... what was it Jane said again!?

[@atoms-to-atoms]

The existing building should have been accurately measured before drawings completed..The roof was way over-engineered and the structure could not support the roof...Huh makes no sense?..Nightmare client!

[@Lifeinadilaide]

2015 8 Jul

[@teresamexico309]

Again and again, people overspend on their home's building.because of (avoidable) human mistakes. The owners are highly qualified designers but they should have hired a construction profesional before even buying the barn.

[@evaguzman1146]

Activen los subtítulos, por favoooorrrrrr…..🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@rogeriolisto]

I used to work with hiend forniture and all, all places never came toguether as the designers draw them.

[@mestenoorg]

Jane's incompetence is perfectly. matched with her annoyance.

[@Bonserak23]

YURGOUS! there's a name lol

[@Geeraffe]

of course it doesn’t have a foundation, it’s a barn but she knows best and happy to go over budget a little bit 🤔

[@jspotdot]

Jane would be a great cartoon character

[@nghonleong]

Nice upgrade to the barn, for the 'cow' Jane and the shepherd husband. Sorry, it was all to much to bear with the amount of blaming that took place in this story.

[@Bonserak23]

looks like a death trap to work in and start poking around taking material out.

[@bjbrown]

That is a hideous build. Why not build a new house by the barn and live happily eer after?

[@dennisjames3232]

Jane is truly out of her depth. Add in her personality and you see the result ! Exactly what does she design because she has absolutely no spacial conception. Just a self important bully !

[@selsonblu8970]

"... miscalculated hiring builders from Greece.."; "...would you like to ask your GREEK assistants to lay out ..." 🤨

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

Designers.. Oooof! Imbibing designer beer in a designer micro brewery spring to mind. Drawer handles.! Pulsating. At least the bathrooms had walls. I photographed interiors for a while. One 'boutique' hotels bedroom ensuite was open plan. I s**t ye not.

[@1986almira]

Jane’s voice 😖

[@anniepais700]

this whole scenario is just silly.

[@cpoller]

Seems like they did some measurements themselves and paid an architect to draw up a 3d Model but no Construction Documents, no site survey, nothing else. Then they were pulling dimensions they give to the contractor from the Model/ drawing that was based on wrong info that they themselves gave the architect and now want to blame someone else.

[@lizgrazioli-talbot9163]

To not pay for professional services what is due them, speaks of a cheapness of feelings. We have way too many people who think this way. Try tapping into your feelings, cheap humans. This world needs empathy, nor cheapness.

[@skycruz8483]

😍🤩❤❤❤

[@SEANJ-jf4rf]

Em...no....dosnt work for me, no cealings in the "pods" etc. Close but dosnt cut it.

[@johnredus5502]

People with more money than sense.

[@Forced2DoThis1]

Jane.....Sadly didn't learn and grow from any of this really. Also....Anybody else wonder why they didn't go with ANY skylight options? Fiber Optical options could've really helped with bringing in light! "Project manager". That JOB is to fill all the gaps and keep every line of communications humming to start, keep and complete the project ON COURSE!" The Builder and the Architect needed to RUUUUNNNN! Jane wanted to NOT PAY the Architect to do work and then get pissy when they didn't want to work for her for free when problems popped up SHE caused!!

[@mirandajanecaird4454]

I wondered why no skylights. It seemed an obvious choice.

[@leahfromcrimia8424]

In USA, we use laser levels.

[@alexfil2064]

What kind of designer doesn’t see that the floor isn’t level and low enough for a new floor to be built?? She is so ignorant and hopeless! Shouldn’t they have inspected the property with an engineer before buying? Shouldn’t the architect check for foundations? It’s so frustrating!!…

[@모-q4z]

Wow! She is so annoying and out of her element. I feel so sorry for the workers.

[@TheNonEntitySG]

i can never work with a female boss.. been there done that..

[@troismoutonsetuntigre5988]

How do you even just look at the building and miss that one end is not the same height as the other? Also I know these programmes are edited for drama, this woman is truly appalling

[@sararichardson737]

Why have people given up on curtains!

[@andreaandrea6716]

I love this comment.

[@katella]

No neighbors no curtains

[@andreaandrea6716]

Originally, curtains were used to keep the cold out (no one had THAT much glass!! I mean, BIG pieces). Now, with double and triple panes, curtains are optional. Some people don't like them (sometimes due to dust allergies; people have given up on curtains and carpets) ... or choose blinds over curtains (I HATE blinds). I do think curtains soften a space and add femininity to a room... and help to de-sterilize! You probably know all this...

[@bernardcooke]

is she boris johnsons mother it seems everythink that goes wrong is somwone elses fault

[@iantarry582]

The architect was without doubt at fault = no site survey?!?; no list of go check this as they’re risks?!?

[@ninoellison7793]

Am I the only person that wonders why the finished product is fabulous, yet the interior decor is often so ugly, unimaginative and boring? 😩

[@lilys4960]

😀

[@malikmarikar9135]

👌👍🙏

[@shinnerz4047]

the woman is just indenial and rediculous. A project manager with no architectural nor engineering background, can't even read drawing, can't even understand what the architect already explained to her, and most importantly, not taking resposibilities !

[@arlongomezrodriguez8481]

In Spanish please

[@miriammuskal5402]

You are too hard on yourself

[@ShaneWood-x7o]

I had a ptsd cringe moment watching this. Worked with an obnoxious masculine woman wannabe client...self proclaimed Project Manager. Zero self-awareness chicks out of their depth are insufferable.

[@pascalmiller1316]

What an awful couple, particularly her.

[@lorrainestinnett4145]

Don't like it