ROSS REACT TO 9 SUPERSTARS MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR WWE'S NEW BOOM PERIOD

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Kickin it with Ross

Kickin it with Ross

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@KickinitwithRoss
@KickinitwithRoss 6 ай бұрын
Who else do yall think has been the cause for WWE recent boom period 🤔
@12012channel
@12012channel 6 ай бұрын
Not a superstar but probably Tony Khan.
@flybirdsfly2091
@flybirdsfly2091 6 ай бұрын
Not sure, but i agree with the list i know there more and some people might have the same answer so i just say those people who been cooking on the mic hopefully they,keep it up.
@maryTPWK
@maryTPWK 6 ай бұрын
Triple H and Shawn Michaels are definitely the “artists” behind this Renaissance imo
@skrilla-702
@skrilla-702 6 ай бұрын
Seth Rollins also carried in the pandemic with Rey Mysterio ppl sleep on that feud 🤦‍♂️
@KANOAH.Official
@KANOAH.Official 6 ай бұрын
Shawn Michaels cooking in nxt
@thetruej7872
@thetruej7872 6 ай бұрын
Roman, Cody, Drew, Jey, Seth, Knight, Gunther, and Rhea Ripley are definitely the top stars in WWE. They've been killing it.
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 6 ай бұрын
roman too
@MOH_AL_K
@MOH_AL_K 6 ай бұрын
Bro had put all the so called “top stars” but not the actual top stars! Typical #codycrybaby
@jordankirby3075
@jordankirby3075 6 ай бұрын
How about Bayley
@javierbrown7795
@javierbrown7795 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget about Dominik
@TrivoMarjanovic
@TrivoMarjanovic 6 ай бұрын
@@MOH_AL_K roman is over the top and outshined by the rock. he is a one trick pony.
@Tinfoil11
@Tinfoil11 6 ай бұрын
He's no longer an active superstar but I feel that Triple H deserves an honorable mention on this list.
@Yeshuaspupil
@Yeshuaspupil 6 ай бұрын
Yep we dont have the number 1 person on this list if Triple H does not take creative control.
@a.fields9789
@a.fields9789 6 ай бұрын
Facts. The perspective of Roman carrying the company is built upon Vince never building and pushing anyone aside from Roman. Once HHH took over, you saw a bunch of new stars get crafted.
@flybirdsfly2091
@flybirdsfly2091 6 ай бұрын
Fact drew been cooking and i love it.
@joemilll-777
@joemilll-777 6 ай бұрын
What has he been cookin?
@flybirdsfly2091
@flybirdsfly2091 6 ай бұрын
​@@joemilll-777 His promo duh
@kadharefinley224
@kadharefinley224 6 ай бұрын
Bloodline, Rhea, LA Knight, Gunther etc are some of the most popular wrestlers in WWE right now and it’s simply amazing. This time period for WWE has been really exciting and it feels great after many years of the company not being as hot as it is today
@adrianwilson2630
@adrianwilson2630 6 ай бұрын
I think Sammy Zayn and Kevin Owen's is our modern day mick Foley and Terry Funk
@Brayvray300
@Brayvray300 6 ай бұрын
I’m so happy la on this list
@PAWANKALYAN_21
@PAWANKALYAN_21 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a Seth Rollins fan but Seth deserves to be on this list. DEAD SERIOUS!
@kratoscallofduty
@kratoscallofduty 5 ай бұрын
💯. Can't believe he's not on the list.
@justyn7
@justyn7 6 ай бұрын
I’m going to Chicago show next week and it was sold out a month ago until they added extra seats after they announced punk
@MoniiByrd
@MoniiByrd 6 ай бұрын
You're making a good point about Gunther vs roman. I never thought about it 😅but now I want it lol they must book it
@gtg305h
@gtg305h 6 ай бұрын
Your best video, finally acknowledging the fact that there are fans out there that are legitimate Roman fans and want him to retain, regardless of whether he does or not, instead of pretending that everybody wants Rhodes to win and Roman is so awful blah blah like other IWC KZbinrs
@njabulogule5250
@njabulogule5250 6 ай бұрын
Honorable mention to Bianca, Becky, and Seth Rollins.
@Everything_E117
@Everything_E117 6 ай бұрын
Raw after mania would be nuts if gunther challenged him
@TrueKingOTK
@TrueKingOTK 6 ай бұрын
13:27 Someone stop him he's being convinced on Roman vs. Gunther 😱😱😱 We can't give WWE a reason 😱😱😱😱
@EricFromTechSupport
@EricFromTechSupport 6 ай бұрын
I say vince being gone helped out a lot
@dingledonk8027
@dingledonk8027 6 ай бұрын
I'm so excited for wrestlemania 40. mania 39 was the first time I ever watched WWE as it was being broadcast. its honestly kind of surreal to me how its been a year already
@JDilly28
@JDilly28 5 ай бұрын
She hasn't affected the wwe's boom period yet but I could see Tiffany Stratton playing a big role in the future for WWE
@andestheartist
@andestheartist 6 ай бұрын
Roman has been CARRYING! He is now the FACE of WWE like you said The Rock and Stone Cold!
@joshharhut9948
@joshharhut9948 6 ай бұрын
WWE has been the best its ever been since The Ruthless Aggression Era. All thanks to Triple H's booking and the freedom the superstars have now, now that Vince is no longer in the company
@joshharhut9948
@joshharhut9948 6 ай бұрын
@JLWprime10 That maybe true but if these allegations of Vince never got out he would still be in WWE and the company would not be doing as well as its doing right now. Triple H saved basically WWE after these allegations about Vince came forward
@TheJuliet316
@TheJuliet316 6 ай бұрын
Damien Priest recently revealed that he's the one that got the crowd to boo Dom at his wedding.🤣
@superpipi1330
@superpipi1330 6 ай бұрын
Ross and Simon the best wrestling KZbin Collab ever.
@jevaniepennant2477
@jevaniepennant2477 6 ай бұрын
Cody vs Gunther for the WWE Championship at bash
@LUIZ_FUEGO
@LUIZ_FUEGO 6 ай бұрын
cody ain’t winning nothing 😂
@BigDicnigga-eh4kj
@BigDicnigga-eh4kj 5 ай бұрын
😂
@comradeyellow6781
@comradeyellow6781 6 ай бұрын
People are actually tuning in nowdays cause of Rock, let's be honest.
@thecanary4238
@thecanary4238 6 ай бұрын
I ain't gonna lie, I agree with you Ross. Gunther vs Roman would be fun to watch, love to see how the storyline would play out.
@TwiggyB21
@TwiggyB21 6 ай бұрын
I'm not the biggest fan of it. But realistically Logan Paul is also part of it. Him coming in and wrestling with being as popular as he is does bring in a lot of people as well
@Yeshuaspupil
@Yeshuaspupil 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan either but his platform and the kayfabe has been a big deal for WWE.
@TheDCGuitar13
@TheDCGuitar13 6 ай бұрын
I get it with Roman. It’s one of those things that would waste years of booking to lose before passing hogans number. They’ve gotten too far to break it prematurely. It would be looked at like the undertaker losing after 15-0 instead of getting to 21-0
@ryan_74089
@ryan_74089 5 ай бұрын
Could add punk rock and seth to the list too WWE has so many people over
@cew2379
@cew2379 6 ай бұрын
I love Simon he a wrestler golden up
@k-dawgHI
@k-dawgHI 6 ай бұрын
I just like the positivity that Simon brings to the table. You can just tell he simply enjoys the business.
@ericvincent1788
@ericvincent1788 6 ай бұрын
Bianca Belair should be on this list
@davidgraham8299
@davidgraham8299 5 ай бұрын
No.
@EL_Chapo187
@EL_Chapo187 6 ай бұрын
17:07 i agree Roman is in a class all by himself yes, but in my opinion to say he’s past the John Cena stage is nowhere near true. Not even close. The impact Cena has had on the business for a good 20 years now, Roman can’t even bat an eyelash gang. Just them make-a-wishes alone puts Cena at the top even still as semi retired. Cody is on his way, but to say Roman had passed the Cena stage is just not true lol
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 6 ай бұрын
nah Ross was speaking facts
@EL_Chapo187
@EL_Chapo187 6 ай бұрын
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 🧢
@UltimateFarmer007
@UltimateFarmer007 6 ай бұрын
​@@JLWprime10yeah finally someone said this
@tythesneakergod9441
@tythesneakergod9441 6 ай бұрын
How you just over look the Rock vs Cena. That was last real blockbuster match in WWE. I do think a Rock vs Roman match would top it because I definitely feel like it would truly be once in a lifetime no rematch.
@justyn7
@justyn7 6 ай бұрын
Roman vs rock will be big but it won’t be Stone cold vs rock or rock vs Cena big
@UltimateFarmer007
@UltimateFarmer007 6 ай бұрын
How you know if it surpasses the ticket sales and buy rates everything so it is bigger than those matches if it making more money so its big time match roman rock wwe all know this will be big time money maker match for all of them
@justyn7
@justyn7 6 ай бұрын
@@UltimateFarmer007 the product will always grow so I’m not judging by buy rates and streams cuz it’s a different time but it terms of names and star power and them actually hating each other adds to it, Don’t get me wrong but Roman is a star but he isn’t John Cena level type of name
@xanaduse
@xanaduse 5 ай бұрын
I think Jack perry deserves an honorable mention for getting Punk to wwe
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 6 ай бұрын
Simon has much better takes than Wrestlelamia
@KINGT33
@KINGT33 6 ай бұрын
If Cody doesn't beat Roman at WrestleMania then I want Gunther to beat Roman at next year Royal Rumble also if Bray Wyatt was still here he would be on this list to
@FreshBoiChris24
@FreshBoiChris24 5 ай бұрын
I’ll be attending Night 2 at this year’s WrestleMania for the very first time and I can’t wait to finally acknowledge my Tribal Chief in person ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
@adnansameer1882
@adnansameer1882 5 ай бұрын
Awesome man
@johnvicente3148
@johnvicente3148 6 ай бұрын
Bro I am too tired bro, I opened up the video and thought Roman was in the room with you.
@AKmohanrajj1
@AKmohanrajj1 6 ай бұрын
😂
@MarcusHutcherson-h5g
@MarcusHutcherson-h5g 6 ай бұрын
I’m calling it Drew beats Seth, fueds with a returning CM Punk, CM Punk wins the title, fueds with Drew a bit, then Sami takes it off of Punk & then we get Sami v KO WM41 Heavyweight title bout. I’m thinking Rock v Roman for head of the table & Gunther v Rhodes for the WWE title
@youngbrownskindizzy9410
@youngbrownskindizzy9410 5 ай бұрын
Definitely can’t wait to see Gunther as world champion hopefully this year or next.
@yhbmari2879
@yhbmari2879 6 ай бұрын
12:26 actually if it wasn’t Cody it would still Seth cuz Roman has still actually never beaten him “when it mattered the most” cuz the last match that happened between them was in result of DQ. A DQ isn’t a legit win nor is it something to brag about. If he wasn’t the World Champion he’d be the next to dethrone Roman and Cody would’ve been the next to beat Seth.
@vicredes
@vicredes 6 ай бұрын
Romans Reigns #6?! He should be #1
@driftlucent
@driftlucent 5 ай бұрын
Make your own list
@Disxreet
@Disxreet 6 ай бұрын
Why tf would yall want Roman to retain?
@chickenuzumaki1771
@chickenuzumaki1771 6 ай бұрын
Bc Roman fans don’t care about anyone or anything outside of except Roman reigns lmao they are worse than swifties rn
@UltimateFarmer007
@UltimateFarmer007 6 ай бұрын
​Same with every wrestlers fans cena fans and cody crybabies always gonna support him its normal dumb talk you said may be you are cody crybaby@@chickenuzumaki1771
@UltimateFarmer007
@UltimateFarmer007 6 ай бұрын
Heel won its good
@UltimateFarmer007
@UltimateFarmer007 6 ай бұрын
​@@chickenuzumaki1771biggest swifty is you you are also on the same boat for someone else
@BobbiyVtoma
@BobbiyVtoma 6 ай бұрын
Becouse he is the goat. What is cody? Just crying and complaining all the time. It would be better if cody and set rollins have a match. But Roman is better in everything. On a mic, on a ring, better stories. Cody become a champion and what? Nothing special.
@NickShah210
@NickShah210 6 ай бұрын
The Cena disrespect is crazy 💀
@turnbucklechatter
@turnbucklechatter 6 ай бұрын
It’s looking more plausible that Roman beats Bruno’s record when you look at it objectively. He beats Cody this year, beats Rock next year and that puts him very close to Bruno. There’s other stories they could run afterwards to put him across the finish line
@cindywilliams7179
@cindywilliams7179 5 ай бұрын
I've always thought it should be a younger superstar to beat Roman. I think Gunther fits that.
@Dabighomiee
@Dabighomiee 5 ай бұрын
Ross can you react to Roman on the Pat Macafee show?
@pgam8619
@pgam8619 6 ай бұрын
9:10 I need Roman to beat Cody, it’s a hot take but whatever. He’s my goat 🐐
@nzstump0152
@nzstump0152 6 ай бұрын
Number 1 spot for helping the wwe boom should be Tony Khan, making triple hs booking look fantastic and having matches that make wwe look Profesional
@Linator4
@Linator4 5 ай бұрын
Simon mentioning Stardust gave me a brilliant idea. Imagine if Corporate Rock had forced Cody to come out as Stardust a week after giving up his WM spot. You thought Cody had gotten over before? I imagine that would’ve gotten him as over as Bryan when WWE wanted to keep him away from the WM main event
@OsOl0K0_ttv
@OsOl0K0_ttv 5 ай бұрын
Typical of WWE fans to turn on Cody at the drop of a hat.
@mr.ilikespam6081
@mr.ilikespam6081 6 ай бұрын
if they do a story where dom slowly realize his family care for him more than Jday you can have this huge emotional wrestlemainia moment where dom and rey hug it out
@kennethkingdon-korab2174
@kennethkingdon-korab2174 5 ай бұрын
Drew beefing up like he did took that Scottish warrior title seriously lol. Than he turned into the Heel/Face? I say that cuz he's technically a heel, but he's kinda like christian. A heel we love to hate.
@gollumandeowyn
@gollumandeowyn 6 ай бұрын
Gunther doesn't just bring credibility to the title... He brings credibility to the sport. Those of us who were alive to watch wrestling in the 20th century cringe when we watch this modern style of overly-choreographed spots where guys slowly and methodically and *obviously* help each other through increasingly complicated maneuvers that look FAKE. Nothing Gunther does looks fake. It's nice to be reminded of a time when wrestling didn't look like a cheerleading routine with 6 person matches and everyone has to build the pyramid at the turnbuckle to do a superplex-powerbomb-electric chair to pop the mark audience who over-payed for their ticket to the PPV/PLE.
@McNeal_99
@McNeal_99 6 ай бұрын
You finally got Simon in a video
@joshharhut9948
@joshharhut9948 6 ай бұрын
I bet for those that want Roman to retain at WM 40 i bet if he does they will instantly flip and say Cody should have won
@AlexFromPhoenix
@AlexFromPhoenix 6 ай бұрын
Its clear as day, that if Vince Mcmahon was still in the company. NONE OF THIS WOULD’VE HAPPENED…..
@sarmadhabibkhan3036
@sarmadhabibkhan3036 6 ай бұрын
Dominic Mysterio went from being green as grass to becoming the current best heel in WWE in less than four years. HE GOT BOOED AT HIS OWN WEDDING 😂
@crazypupper
@crazypupper 6 ай бұрын
I think Gunther should be the guy to take the title from Cody if he wins the title at WM. Gunther for SD!
@ImKiiwon
@ImKiiwon 6 ай бұрын
I felt it was a different Wwe Ever since WMBacklash in pr
@97navraj
@97navraj 6 ай бұрын
10:21 soo the rock was right the people do want Rock vs Roman 😂
@MrSlagle8706
@MrSlagle8706 5 ай бұрын
The LA hype got me back watching wrestling
@brianspencer9184
@brianspencer9184 6 ай бұрын
I'm not his biggest fan, but Seth Rollins not making that list is ridiculous. LA Knight being number 1 is even more ridiculous.
@devinc24
@devinc24 6 ай бұрын
The disrespect I’m seeing for Bianca Belair is crazy
@Wwesvr11bestprojects
@Wwesvr11bestprojects 6 ай бұрын
Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn should be separated and I’d take Drew out of the list only cuz he just come back a few months . Sami and KO have been over for the last 2 years(specially sammy)
@robertmagill6005
@robertmagill6005 6 ай бұрын
Gunther against Roman would be the best way to turn Gunther face.
@Jay-mt6nu
@Jay-mt6nu 6 ай бұрын
6:43 damn my dirty mind
@symdollak9924
@symdollak9924 6 ай бұрын
The last big match was rock vs cena at mania 28
@larrychandler8443
@larrychandler8443 6 ай бұрын
Like this list but I'll have bianca belair on this list, what she have accomplished since winning the 2021 royal rumble, main eventing wrestlemaina, beating becky and asuka at wrestlemaina and she like this female John cena, she deserves a spot on this list
@dameTHEname
@dameTHEname 6 ай бұрын
Now that Vince is gone the chains have come off the superstars a little bit and WWE are finally a to create and have more than one top star at a time which had been the problem for the last 20 years.
@WilbertAdams1
@WilbertAdams1 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I was thinking after Cody lost at WrestleMania last year that WWE was going book Gunther vs Roman at this year's WrestleMania. Yes it's heel vs heel, but they did a face vs face winner take all at WrestleMania 6.
@PoSiTiVeLyGlAd
@PoSiTiVeLyGlAd 5 ай бұрын
Gunther vs roman under the right circumstances? He'd be the only person on the roster Roman would raise up the 1 for
@royal_kingss9234
@royal_kingss9234 6 ай бұрын
Gunther vs Roman!!... that could be good, that could really good... Please Triple Wrestling make it happen.
@Jay-mt6nu
@Jay-mt6nu 6 ай бұрын
logan paul should've been an honorable mention
@wesleypotgieter6387
@wesleypotgieter6387 6 ай бұрын
Seth,Logan Paul and The Rock should be on this especially Seth bro tired of the disrespect
@HTWrestling
@HTWrestling 6 ай бұрын
I agree, Gunther vs Sami Will be Match of the Night and each second the match goes On we all Will Want Sami to win More and More. Sami has that ability and Gunther can Sell everything!
@alehandroarries6995
@alehandroarries6995 6 ай бұрын
If there's anyone who can get the audience to feel terrible watching them get a brutal beat down it's Sami Zayn but I have only seen him perform like that was against Kevin Owens at that NXT takeover for the NXT championship
@djisaprodigy623
@djisaprodigy623 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t go as far as to say a ‘BOOM’ Period but there are things that are going well. I won’t say boom period until the rating improve consistently and the weekly shows are good for the most part
@farah.t
@farah.t 6 ай бұрын
it is a boom period everyone is coming back to wrestling ive seen it online
@christophermarriott1681
@christophermarriott1681 6 ай бұрын
​@@farah.t Online? People online are full of crap.
@countyboy3988
@countyboy3988 6 ай бұрын
​@@christophermarriott1681bro they've been selling out Monday night Raw consistently which is something they haven't done for a while 🙄🙄
@Jeff_Pryce
@Jeff_Pryce 6 ай бұрын
No,it’s safe to say they’re in a boom period. They’re selling ticket like hotcakes. Merch is flying off the shelves. Wrestlemania has the most buzz around it since maybe over a decade when Rock vs Cena was headlining. And then they added CM PUNK, and officially became THE must-see brand in wrestling. They’re firing on all cylinders right now.
@smeqwack7337
@smeqwack7337 6 ай бұрын
tv ratings dont really matter anymore in this modern age, is all about streaming and social media. you can see it with how much presence they have online. hell they know it, that they would upload entire segments and matches online to get people to see the show, either on tv or on the network.
@37_tripping34
@37_tripping34 6 ай бұрын
Bray wyatt was carring monday night raw with the firefly funhouse,but I guess I understand
@gollumandeowyn
@gollumandeowyn 6 ай бұрын
Not that I enjoy speaking ill of the dead, but Bray Wyatt drove away viewers like few others when he started all that Fiend/Funhouse stuff. His promos didn't make sense, he talked forever without actually saying anything, and his matches were just not good. I get he was a captivating personality when he spoke, but he didn't really stand up well to the actual art of wrestling.
@37_tripping34
@37_tripping34 6 ай бұрын
@@gollumandeowyn I really like mysterious characters. We have no one now. Karrion kross is the closest thing. And half the time I forget he’s on the roster.
@TrivoMarjanovic
@TrivoMarjanovic 6 ай бұрын
Gunther versus roman
@HTWrestling
@HTWrestling 6 ай бұрын
I would Love Gunther to do it if Cody does not win at Mania. But Idk how they can Book that while he has the IC Belt and make that transition from Getting pinned for the 1st time and then go On to face Roman
@javierbrown7795
@javierbrown7795 6 ай бұрын
Sami vs Kevin for the intercontinental title at the money inthe bank in toronto would be epic if sami does win at wrestlemania 40
@Jaden0g
@Jaden0g 5 ай бұрын
pausing like crazy😂
@leafmanwithafryinpan
@leafmanwithafryinpan 6 ай бұрын
I unironically want Dominik to get a push
@mattroxursoul
@mattroxursoul 6 ай бұрын
The problem with Roman is they tried to force it through instead of letting it build up.
@VanezBane
@VanezBane 6 ай бұрын
seth vs drew, drew wins and Priest cashes in steals the title, that will tide us over till drew will win the belt from priest and cm punk returns. afterwards JD implodes. or priest fails his cash-in, rhea loses and judgement day slowly implodes, at that point rhea and dom turn face. Just not sure where Gunther will fit in, maybe he retains until Ilja takes the title from him. we are gonna have some good wrestling in the future.
@samuelevaloppi275
@samuelevaloppi275 6 ай бұрын
I expected Logan Paul to be on this list
@susanwojcicki5714
@susanwojcicki5714 6 ай бұрын
i’m one of the people that want roman to retain… but i think the story will be better if Cody wins
@MrKotchise
@MrKotchise 6 ай бұрын
Bobby Lashley can't beat Roman for the title? You tripping Ross 🤦🏾 Bobby need a rematch cause he never lost his title by pinfall or soumisson. A lot of you need to put some respect on Bobby Lashley guys for real !
@orondebethel7493
@orondebethel7493 5 ай бұрын
If Roman retains I’ll stop watching this damn show
@meethvncho
@meethvncho 6 ай бұрын
I disagree wwe start booming before drew start doing this but I do love what he doing
@ThuperSuper
@ThuperSuper 6 ай бұрын
Disagree on KO, if you are talking about gaining or bringing back eyes he is just the opponent of the people that brought eyes. From bloodlines, SZ and LP. He is more Seth Rollins than Roman Reigns.
@DoctorDoom84
@DoctorDoom84 6 ай бұрын
I want Roman to win. Dead serious.
@andestheartist
@andestheartist 6 ай бұрын
BTW I love and enjoy your content Ross! PLEASE MAKE A MEMBERSHIP! There are people “like me” that enjoy your content and the effort you put into the wrestling community!
@4lifegunner
@4lifegunner 6 ай бұрын
Paul Heyman. Not a wrestler; but a HOF manager who’s been key to the Bloodline Storyline and getting Roman over 🩸☝🏽☝🏼
@jevaniepennant2477
@jevaniepennant2477 6 ай бұрын
After jey beats jimmy he can go after a single title
@andestheartist
@andestheartist 6 ай бұрын
I’m actually ready for Gunther reign to end! Like for Roman Reigns let the title GO! I want Sami to win!
@Orcabubeog
@Orcabubeog 6 ай бұрын
I want cody to win but i gonna be honest if Roman losses his championship it just feels diffrent idk😅 Nice Video tho❤
@idoorion9279
@idoorion9279 6 ай бұрын
Judgment going to hit rey with a conchairto and dom take the hit instead or something like that
@andestheartist
@andestheartist 6 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion, I want Dom to win something!!!! I want his reign to get better than just a heel!!
@REPPIN4U
@REPPIN4U 6 ай бұрын
I am one of them who wants RR to retain... but you won't catch me dead on the internet complaining like an idiot should Cody win. Dude deserved it from last year.
@jordankirby3075
@jordankirby3075 6 ай бұрын
You forgot Bayley
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