Rotherham: Town centre 1980's night out pub weekend walkabout. Remembered

[@Rotherman]

***What you see here was my second video, I got back to my car and for some reason and I've never done it but I checked the video I'd just done, no sound at all, the mic wasn't activated, so instead of doing a voice over at editing I did it all again and that's why I was knackered and you could here me labouring at times, tbh the first edition was better, so perhaps a voice over may have been better, but I'm still learning***

[@J0nny61]

I think the pub near the Mail Coach was called the Cleaver.

[@Rotherman]

Hi Jon, Thanks for the info it completely escaped my memory.

[@TonyMe-dj5pm]

Thanks John. My time would have been the mid seventies. The pub on Wellgate just before the Mailcoach was called the Cleaver inn in my time I think. You had to go upstairs to it if my memory serves me right. A good pint of Whitbreads was to be had then. Enjoyed the video very much cheers.

[@Rotherman]

Hi Tony, Thanks for the info, it completely escaped my memory. I seem to remember it was on two levels with the frontage being lower than the rear

[@modfather1964]

minties?

[@Rotherman]

@@modfather1964 I've no idea mate, sounds familiar tho.

[@Kinbstdds]

Mailcoach was a separate pub to the Cleaver. Didn’t Cleaver become a theme pub called Magintys or something?

[@CountryBumpkin-wt6ry]

​@@Kinbstdds Yeah Maginty's, full of posers 😂

[@bee3541-y7s]

The pub you mentioned near the mail coach, which had the glass front, was called No.10, Prior to that, I think it used to be The Cleaver The Hare and Hounds was a busy pub, with the atmosphere of a 'local', Landlord & Landlady were Jack & Millie when my mother was a barmaid there.

[@Rotherman]

Yes the cleaver hare and hounds was a great pub, sad they've all gone now, at least we had them back in the day.

[@MikeFletcher-Fletch]

Nice to meet you matey. I remember Rotherham well back then. My mate was responsible for adding washing up liquid in the fountains on a regular basis lol

[@Rotherman]

Hi Mike was you the guy at the pub with the dog?

[@MikeFletcher-Fletch]

@@Rotherman yes matey. Shared your channel with the family

[@Rotherman]

@@MikeFletcher-Fletch just doing the brinny ones now they should be available in an hr

[@nialloneill5097]

Was that mild green fairy

[@ickleshaz1]

Bloomin' love this! Brought back loads of memories, thank you :)

[@Rotherman]

Thank you

[@dje-j]

I was one of the only female resident D.Js at Tiffany's in the 80s . Just loved that club

[@dje-j]

Bad management helped in the closing of it ,all on the take,I was contracted as a freelance D.J, left to go to troubleshoot Vickers nite club London Rd Sheffield Became D.J for around 2 years ,once again after getting numbers up to as it should ,they sold it ...

[@mickchapman5306]

Happy days 70s/80s in R/ham. My local was the Cat and Cabbage ,lived on St.Stephens Rd. very handy for nights out in town, wobble home! Our band played the Dickens once and a guy called John DJ-d there ,used to drop in for a drink after band practice in Masborough. Dickens used to be a good bikers pub. Saw Joe Cocker there one night, he came in to see some lads from his old Greaseband play. Thanks for the memories Rotherman.

[@Rotherman]

@@mickchapman5306 thanks mick and you're welcone

[@Richard-gk3kq]

I was in the Dickens that night when Joe Cocker was in. I think he sang a couple of songs on stage.

[@samanthajayjones2645]

Adam and Eve became Harveys think that was late 80s

[@Rotherman]

Hi Samantha, I never knew that, possibly because I never went that side of town, only in my college days to the Charters sometimes at lunch times.

[@DianeGleeson-td6hv]

Shipmates

[@ladystardust2885]

Where was the Tut N Shive? Bluecoats used to be my ballet school in 1960s and The Cellar Bar beneath High House.. There was SHipmates bar and club, had rave/house music. In the 80s, Peppermint PArk.

[@Rotherman]

i understand the peppermint park was the revolution you at the end of the vid the tut and shive was the pub that is now kebabish and was called the Cleaver next to the Mailcoach

[@duskyo]

they where great times friday saturday nights used to finish in dickens then on to tiffanys night club.

[@deedahinkent]

Eyup John lad ,I enjoyed that it evokes memorys of early 90s when i still lived in Darnall . Sunday nights we would get taxis from the Sportsman in Darnall and get dropped of outside the Turf Tavern we then did vertually the same route as you took but after the High House (High bar them days I think) we finished of in Jakes Bar (dickens/station) then taxis back to Darnall all in all i think on the night we did 10 pubs 11 max , we only supped halfs tho !! Thanks for the memorys and al sithi ( si di if your'e from Sheffield Lol) on't next un😄👍👍 PS used to feel shockin Monday morning at work!

[@Rotherman]

Nar den dee dar....... it were the circuit weren't it? you'd do that, and see the same people in the same pubs at different times lol. until the next one Jon lad, Al Sithi

[@brendancasey3118]

What was the name of the club just above the market? Remember going to the very short lived? Raspberry beret club bottom of ship hill

[@Rotherman]

Adam and Eve

[@brendancasey3118]

@@Rotherman cheers, been racking my brains trying to remember!

[@ladystardust2885]

Whatever happened to Rotherham? Where are the people? I have lived in Australia since 2003, and can't believe what a shambles I am seeing. Such fond memories of 1970s and 1980s fun.

[@Rotherman]

sadly theres not many shoppers which in turn has a knock on effect with investment, the council are building a new complex on the old forge island, i had no idea until i did the town centre videos

[@Carolb66]

We have had too many migrants & asylum seekers plus loads of Eastern Europeans. I'm Rotherham born nearly 60 years & I will not go into town, you feel like you are the foreigner.

[@Rotherman]

All the town centre videos were done on Sunday mornings apart from 2 and 3 which were Saturdays but as you can see sadly there's not many people about.

[@ladystardust2885]

@@Rotherman it'd better be good to attract the folks away from Meadowhell.

[@dave4803]

@@ladystardust2885 It won't do any good. The town will still have the third world hanging around in gangs looking for trouble and offending people with their smell, the parking costs will still be outrageous and the other underlying problems. These are the things that drove people out, if still there no one will come back. All these shut down shops and Rotherham council think building more is the answer? The last time they built new shops they sat empty for 3 years.

[@dave4803]

Used to be busy and loads to do before the third world came in. It is shell of what it used to be, you could spend only half an hour in each pub starting at 5 and you still couldn't visit them all in one night. All these closed down shops and building sites were thriving businesses not that long ago. You could spend a full morning going from shop to shop 20 years ago, 50 years a full day, there was even farmer markets. Now you can do it in an hour, there's nothing worth going into town for. The council ruined the town. They bullied thriving businesses out of locations so they could get the land cheap to build smaller shops on them or things the town didn't need, then cried when the same thriving businesses refused to come back and they were stuck with empty buildings for years. This had a knock on effect shutting other thriving businesses down or forcing them to move outside town. The council got greedy with the parking costs, drove more people out. The council and police refused to do something about the third world hanging around in gangs bothering people and taking things that didn't belong to them. In the end decent people just avoided the town.

[@Rotherman]

I hear everything you're saying Dave

[@damian-795]

02:34 That beauty of a church, my God you can see how the UK is in decline, its deserted in a horrible way and boarded up

[@Rotherman]

Hiya it was Sunday morning, the minster is an awesome thing it's boarded up and looks tatty cos no ones coming in to invest in it, it's a vicious circle no investers no shoppers.

[@jaynewhite9428]

My god what have they done to Rotherham it's criminal and heart breaking

[@Rotherman]

@@jaynewhite9428 take a look at my town centre videos they're done on Saturdays and it's still empty if people

[@Towerwatson525]

just upstairs a few doors along from the Turf Tavern was Cresta's nightclub .

[@Rotherman]

that gets mentioned near the end of the film

[@Towerwatson525]

@@Rotherman Yes, i typed too quick. Moved away from the area in the early 90's and i am shocked by the state the town in this vid ;(

[@Rotherman]

@@Towerwatson525 it was a Sunday morning but if you mean the amount of closed shops etc I know what you mean. those burnt out at the bottom further down from the Turf, you may see them on the town centre videos I did, just last week they started demolishing them.

[@tonyjedioftheforest1364]

Can’t believe how rundown and dead the once thriving town centre has become. It’s criminal how the council has miss managed the place. Someone should be ashamed of themselves for letting this happen.

[@Rotherman]

Agreed Tony

[@Kinbstdds]

To be fair it never was busy in a Sunday morning.

[@CountryBumpkin-wt6ry]

Parkgate retail park opening up was the kick in the knackers for the town centre, gave them free rates to open a store there. You could park there for free while they jacked up the cost of parking in town, no wonder it faded away.

[@stevedickson5853]

Yet folk keep voting in the same councils that do this, amongst other things

[@DianeGleeson-td6hv]

It was called the cleaver just down from the mail coach

[@ladystardust2885]

Any relation to John Gleeson?

[@alansmith7112]

Yer forgot about peppermint park halfway up ship hill also remember gunna Adam n eve above market,love the vids 😁

[@Rotherman]

Hi Alan never heard of peppermint park I heard it was club pachas or sommat like that before that revolution tho, early 90s my town days had ended did the odd stag night in town, that was about it. glad you like the videos.

[@alansmith7112]

It was peppermint park before pachas

[@alansmith7112]

Yer bring back memories of mi drinking days also do remember smell of slaughter house on corporation st that i will never forget 😂

[@Rotherman]

@@alansmith7112 before my time that Alan I know it was behind the units on market street which is now a carpark that looks over to forge island.

[@alansmith7112]

Always use to call car park slaughterhouse car park

[@paulhopkins-s2w]

Rotherham dire place now

[@Ray-bb9ki]

Wasn't also so was a decent working class town but we know what happened to Rotherham it's name dragged through the mud and mass influx of eastern Europeans crying shame

[@Rotherman]

Rotherham gets a lot of bad press and I won't call it I'm proud of where I come from. I'm not getting into politics, but no one questions owt about the Rotherham Labour Council

[@Ray-bb9ki]

@@Rotherman Rotherham council have destroyed Rotherham and a labour council at that all am saying it was once a decent town i was brought up in Rotherham in the early 1963 and moved away in 2022 the decline i witness was heartbreaking

[@Rotherman]

@@Ray-bb9ki spot on ray

[@Rotherman]

Lol probably one of the best known towns in in Yorkshire to be steeped with the most history

[@duskyo]

pub near tiffanys was travelers

[@karaClarke-uk4zo]

Didn't bring back amy memories for me though because I were always to pissed to remember anything lol. If you wanted a scrap, just go to The Angel or Falstaff. I used to work in a hotdog/burger van van on Saturdy nights and I saw some things then I tell thee.

[@Rotherman]

Lol

[@milrman12345]

John and dons chesse and onion sand wichs in coach were made of legends

[@modfather1964]

1:24 is not turf tavern... it was just up from angel!! around 2:47

[@Rotherman]

The original Turf tavern was at top of Bridgegate upper mill gate I believe, and closed in 1915, moving onto corporation street where I showed at the start. I have a picture of it being demolished.

[@leedsunitedandy]

We had a spell going to rotherham on Thurs nights was a good night & always busy but struggle to remember some of Pub names Mailcoach rings a bell Also remember we had a spell going to Tiffany's not sure what night that was but think we paid £15 & lasses £10 then we did'nt have to pay for drinks Think we stopped going after awhile seemed to be alot of fighting Good times

[@Rotherman]

years ago it started as a bowling alley, I knew it as tiffanys, pop and crip night we had in 1976 think that lasted a couple o yrs for teenages, last time i went in it would have been 1982. it became known as other names too, liquid, the zone, all gone to rubble now its a car park

[@cathyturner3224]

Aww those were good times. Then yes we know what happened 😢

[@JacquelineFox-hl4hd]

Rotherham born bread and fed… god I miss these times.. lets fight and bring the good shit back… Jesus I remember The Grapes at Doulton

[@Rotherman]

@@JacquelineFox-hl4hd never went to the disco side of it but had a few beers in the bar

[@GeoffMarsh-p6i]

Did you work at bsc

[@Rotherman]

@@GeoffMarsh-p6i I worked at the narrow strip mills on Shepcote Lane from 76 to 93 then they moved us to Stocksbridge until that closed in 2009

[@GeoffMarsh-p6i]

@@Rotherman I got you at rotherham end you looked familiar

[@Rotherman]

@@GeoffMarsh-p6i I don't remember your name what dept did u work in assuming u mean Shepcote Lane

[@GeoffMarsh-p6i]

No I was at park gate

[@chiphawkins42]

What about the Dickens.....

[@Rotherman]

Forgot that one prob cos I mention it in another vid

[@MikeFletcher-Fletch]

There was a punk called Sid who used to regularly strip off in the mosh pit in Shipmates

[@scalezi]

Yes someone did get killed outside Crestas , his name was Paul Tingle and the reason i know is because he was a awesome young boy with everything to live for and my childhood mate. But it did not close the club but it was a nail in the coffin for crestas night club.

[@Rotherman]

I'm so sorry to read that fella.

[@scalezi]

@@Rotherman all good mate.

[@Kinbstdds]

Remember the wallaby kidnapped from Clifton Park and stashed in a cubicle in the gents in the Turf? 😂

[@gordonsmith902]

High house Rotherham united pub

[@ApnaChoud]

2024 its a ghost town more life in a graveyard!

[@Rotherman]

@@ApnaChoud hiya is that because of this video or just in general? The video was done on a Sunday morning mid April this year. I don't know what it's like on a normal weekend now, but in the 80s it used to be rammned.

[@ApnaChoud]

@@Rotherman Not your video at all the town is just done screwed.

[@gordonsmith902]

Shipmates horatows

[@modfather1964]

feoffees

[@Rotherman]

Feoffees is mentioned it's the wetherspoons now. It's the old bluecoats school

[@sarahmeyers-t9f]

Magintys was there before tut and shive and it's pheofees

[@Rotherman]

I didn't know about magintys. The feoffees of Rotherham had the school built for boys, and it became known as bluecoats school after the blazers the boys had to wear, hence the naming of the feoffees and then later bluecoats, from the history of the building. Wetherspoons obviously bought it and that's what it is today.

[@deniseallott3756]

It was pronounced Fifes, an old English word but everyone said Feofees.

[@Rotherman]

It was the feoffees, as the Feoffees of Rotherham had it built as a boys school and it pronounced as feff-eez

[@deniseallott3756]

@@Rotherman yes, just looked it up and you are correct, Fifes were what the individual paid.

[@gordonsmith902]

Magents

[@gordonsmith902]

Blue whale

[@Rotherman]

what was the blue whale?