Roto Grip Wild Streak: In Depth

[@FredSoDak]

Good review. Wish I had seen this before purchasing. Was going to use it for a replacement of my Nomad Dagger; drilled it with the same layout -- I had been using the Nomad Dagger with a 3000 resurface annually, for many years. The Wild Streak was much longer & slightly more backend than the Nomad Dagger when thrown in the same position of across the 2nd arrow; down & in type of play. The Wild Streak needed a more delicate, perfectionist touch - can't be sloppy. Pattern type is Main St V2 on wood lanes. The Nomad Dagger started (at beginning of buff area 32') early & rumbled with a long arc to the pocket, small entry angle. The Wild Streak went down & through the buff area (32'-42'), then started moving when it saw friction. Left many various single pins with the Wild Streak. Plugged & redrilled with a larger Val angle and resurfaced to 2000 seemed to tame the wildness down to more consistency.

[@brandonferris8934]

Holy hell, that ball hits like a freight train. Cannot wait to get mine.

[@michelleancheta7689]

Hi, Luke. I end up buying this ball for my son. All we can say is WOW!!! He was really impressed with this ball. It moves and reacts like an asymmetric ball and it's a hooker!!! First game scored a 279.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Great!!!

[@getreal6124]

I appreciate both your technical and applicable sides within a review like this: those who can just look at the numbers and figure out what a ball should do will love it while people like me who need it broken down a little more in plain terms will embrace this too for being so straightforward and easier-to-understand.

[@scotturban54]

Here is what I would like to see Luke. You make these videos and put them on here usually before the ball is available to the public, meaning most of us have not seen one in person. I think it would be cool if you just took 5 or 10 seconds on each video and held the camera around the ball to show everyone what it really looks like. We know usually the product photos arent a good representation online sometimes.

[@LukeRosdahl]

scotturban54 Yeah I can do that

[@steveg6600]

I'd just like to say this ball is great. Just got it drilled today and was able to bowl very good. I have a idol pearl and fever pitch and now wild streak. All of your reviews made me get this over the ufo. Thank you Luke for what you do

[@stefans.6379]

I think this is my first ever post on youtube but I this ball is worth a post for sure. After seeing this review I thought it might be a good ball for me. I'm a below average league bowler (avg. ~175), got this ball two weeks ago. I'm in the lowest league playing team (4 vs. 4, 3 vs. 3) here and people play everywhere on the lanes with all the different kind of styles one can imagine. Played in two different centers one with 24ml and one with 25ml oil, got now 20 games on this ball and played 288 in the one center (3rd game with the newly drilled ball) and 289 the next week in the other center. After 20 games I'm 210+ average with this ball. It is a strike monster, release sensitive yes, but thats why I bought it to get my release more stable and when you have it this ball just drives, leaves hardly any corner pins and gives you lots of controll!! I can trully recommend this and will for sure order another one next year.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Cool, thanks for saying something! Yeah, I really like this one. Will definitely teach you consistency, but it'll reward that consistency and give you a lot of execution confidence. Glad you like it!!

[@Jason_P]

This is a fantastic deep dive. I hope you will continue to do this kind of video if the ball is worthy.

[@LukeRosdahl]

I think I'm going to keep doing them anyway, I have to keep the reviews fairly straight forward and palatable, but this is the kind of stuff I really like doing. Not as easy to digest for most, but it helps get some value out there for others too

[@Jason_P]

@@LukeRosdahl Bowling in general needs more content like this. Most ball reviews are "IT HOOKS ALL TEH MUCHLY GO BIE IT NAO MUST HAVE!" and that's just useless. Every ball made will hook, every ball made will strike. Also, any ball made will leave corners and every ball made will be a dog on certain conditions. Any reviewer could have a dry house shot put down and make any ball appear to be an automatic strike machine. We (serious bowlers) really need more information than is available and this kind of content goes a very long way towards filling that information hole. This is why I throw money at you every month on Patreon!

[@ernestojanniere76]

@@Jason_P HEAR HEAR!!!

[@MrShow91]

Thanks for the video man, this is great stuff. There aren't a ton of channels that do stuff beyond "This ball hooks!!1!!!1!!" coverage, and you are one of the best at breaking down the 1s and 0s.

[@robertsneed3]

Wow what a very detailed and awesome review of this ball 🙌 you are making me look twice at it now to see if I need to add this in my arsenal. Thank you so much for this review.

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Love the in depth technical details

[@KennyGrinols]

I really enjoy the more in depth reviews like this! Look forward to more of these.

[@coopergates9680]

Thanks for the details. I thought you hinted at comparing the all-road and wild streak in part of this video, but then you made another video for that lol

[@rickcurnow2799]

Keep it up. Love the reviews

[@michaelemerick8891]

Best reviewer in the game! Thank you sir.

[@Gennbu17]

I approve of this new video style.

[@Leo-NJ]

Dude, I hope this is the first of many more to come!

[@stevenjudd2383]

Great video. Thank you for the deep dive.

[@rodennis418]

Good info and great depth. Keep it up!

[@pravihrvat699]

I love this new in-depth video. Keep them coming 🙏🏼

[@johnnyjdogg33]

Another great video, keep up the great work!!

[@itskyyuuuu]

As a player coming back to bowling after 12 years and a low average of about 140 since ive been back... (with house ball lol) slightly rev dominant and about 15.5 mph.. what ball would you suggest that would hide my mistakes a little more than this ball?

[@LukeRosdahl]

You'd probably want something an IQ Tour or an IQ Emerald if you're rev dominant anyway.

[@joebeagle1009]

Luke, what layout and surface are you using in this one? Is it lane shined or did you smooth it out from box? I'm now addicted to your videos, and it's 3:15am, and I have to work in the morning. Thanks a lot. lol!

[@LukeRosdahl]

LOL . . I think the layout is 5 x 5 x 3 . . this is straight out of the box, it's a 3000 sheen so it's going to look kind of shiny right away, and then it just continued to shine throughout the filming.

[@joebeagle1009]

@@LukeRosdahl Awesome. I'm going to order some new balls and try this layout, it seems like the 5 x 5 x 3 is kind of like your baseline layout to work off of, and then tweaked on some certain coverstocks, like the Idol pearl and the sanded Ink? Am I seeing that right? Right now my best 2 balls are both Radicals, an Intel at 4-1/2 x 5-3/4 x 2-7/8 and a Katana at 3-1/2 x 5-3/8 x 2-3/8 so it doesn't seem to be a huge change anyhow, and I really like your reactions, they are more in line with being less jumpy off the friction which is what I'd like to try to do with a combination of different equipment. I'm really pretty close to your roll, even though everything before the release looks different lol! I'm pretty much decided on a re-tooling and moving over to Storm/Roto because of your videos, and your intelligent insight, and knowing that I would have a good place to get reliable well thought out info on new equipment and relevant topics. I'm thinking Crux Prime, Phaze II, Idol Pearl, Idol Pro, Pro Motion, Hustle Ink, and a Wild Streak. I want a whole new set for league and sport tourneys and sweepers. I also think this would be a good bag for Reno, based on your thoughts on them... Thanks so much for your help. Before I pull the trigger at Buddies, are you somewhere where I could get some of them from you?

[@sadboisonly1004]

Personally throwing one myself, I can confirm that hand adjustments do matter when playing straighter because the second I wrapped around it like I usually do it went left but keeping my hand up the back it's very tame down lane and I can get as deep as I want and it won't quit

[@williamsonkm20]

Great video Luke

[@mikeday6908]

Great video!

[@tuckerkaus7691]

I wish you were on staff with all the manufacturers so that I could get reviews like this for every ball that comes out. 😁

[@fafafooey4126]

Right??? I wanna see him through the colombia 300 Baller because that thing looks amazing and the dv8 verge seems like a hook monster

[@ArsenalBowler]

@@fafafooey4126 According to numbers, the DV8 Verge seems to be a DV8 Phaze II and the shape I see from it seems be to consistent with that theory

[@fafafooey4126]

@@ArsenalBowler I need to watch a few more videos on it. I havent bowled in a longgg time. I bowled from 10-16 and had a 210 average during my last league season. I went back for the first time in my mid 20s and bowled a 155 average out of 3 games with my old virtual gravity/brunswick smoking inferno. And the smoking infernos shape on a burnt up house shot was just amazing

[@PoliticalTradesman]

What you just described was my experience with the fight. It was a tattletale ball. When I was throwing the ball well it looked great...when I am slightly off it goes back in the bag. Didnt mask any mistakes. I think that is part of the reason it was hated. Is this just a personality of high rg balls with strong covers?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Justin Moungie Kiiiind of . . but not necessarily

[@ShutterVision]

I'm still currently throwing an Unhinged for my house shot ball. By the numbers this is looking like a close replacement except it has a solid cover instead of the pearl of the Unhinged. Do you think hitting the WS with polish would get it close to what I'm getting from the Unhinged?

[@LukeRosdahl]

No, the Hyroad is actually much closer, the Unhinged was basically the Roto Grip Hyroad when it came out, I'd just go that direction. The shapes are really different from the WS to the Unhinged.

[@glamis242]

i’d love to see a comparison of the wild streak vs crux prime would it be a good ball down?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Actually yeah . . overall ball motion is pretty close, Prime is just an earlier and stronger version of it. Well spotted, that's one I didn't even see myself, but that's a tandem I'll be using at nationals next year.

[@thomasworrilow4228]

Hey luke, for someone getting back into bowling competitively, do you think this would be a good ball to practice with to show when you are doing something wrong?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yes, actually, would be a very good training ball. I'm finding that I keep using it more and more myself.

[@deist3r]

Almost sounds like in addition to being a good tournament piece, you think this could be a de facto trainer ball to help people work on their bad habits and inconsistencies. I would definitely have use for something like that.

[@michaellopour7409]

Yeah I really appreciated that evaluation - it's a part of reviews that is missing when only really good bowlers review balls. As an average league bowler, it's nice to know which equipment will correct my mistakes and which will magnify them. Not that either is good or bad, they are both appropriate and welcome in the proper circumstances. I wonder if there are general characteristics of core/cover that can be categorized in this way (forgiving/unforgiving) based on bowler traits?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Not really . . just too many variables.

[@nigegill]

Wild streak looks like it could be good for wet/dry. when they become cliffed.

[@myronlhr]

Hey luke, you mentioned that there are some balls that are not as sensitive to physical changes when being thrown down the lane. What are some of them? Thanks!

[@LukeRosdahl]

Myron Idol Pro, Hyroad, Phaze 2, PhysiX, Hustle Ink, and Idol Pearl are the handful that come to mind at the moment

[@t1dan_]

I'm a beginner (6 mo. regular bowling) learning how to efficiently and accurately hook. I'd like to get a ball that's good for a beginner but will also serve me well as I gain experience. It seems like the Hustle Ink and the Match Up Black Pearl might be good options. Would you recommend one of these or would you recommend something else?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Hustle Ink definitely!

[@Jason_P]

Um, the answer is "If you don't own a Hustle Ink, buy one. If you have one, buy a second."

[@2godzilla5]

When do we start to get your lefty reviews and shots?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Rene Thompson I added lefty shots into the regular Wild Streak review if you want to check that out

[@conniemilhollon7472]

Sorry was not about the ball which was a really good video. My husband might be getting

[@henrystrikemaster]

Layout on Idol?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Henry Lee Um, 4 7/8 x 4 1/2 x 2 1/2 I think?

[@conniemilhollon7472]

Question how much of a difference should you see on your league night. I started off one week playing my halo pearl all three games to going to a black matchup or IQ emerald taken to 5000 with slip agent just to keep it from over hooking to much

[@LukeRosdahl]

It depends on a lot of things, I don't usually worry too much about it

[@conniemilhollon7472]

I've had different pairs of lanes play different which I know. This is a every week thing that it goes to one extreme to the next. I've even had to go to urethane and move way left have it hook like a reactive ball. On league night starting out

[@LukeRosdahl]

@@conniemilhollon7472 Huh. Yeah that is pretty unusual . . I've had some lanes be different and some nights a little drier than others, but not that crazy

[@conniemilhollon7472]

@@LukeRosdahl was just wandering if was a thing that happens everywhere. Makes it hard to keep a average because it being so extreme.

[@conniemilhollon7472]

We was told it would be like this because of the new rules that they don't have to use as much oil now.

[@teak.y]

What’s your rev rate and speed?

[@LukeRosdahl]

supertiki 450ish and 17ish

[@CryAboutHEAT]

This reacts more like a Motiv imo

[@rodneyshelby4371]

How does the Wild Streak compared to the MVP

[@LukeRosdahl]

Lol it doesn't . . crazy different motions and shapes

[@Rick_Schott]

Credit where it’s due... when I saw the specs on this ball I had no interest. Now I do have some interest. Nice work.

[@stormb28]

Reminds of a Fight.......hope that’s not accurate.

[@LukeRosdahl]

stormb28 Nah, this one is quite a bit better. I was iffy on the Fight, liked the Street Fight ok, but this one is really good

[@emeraldsin7664]

So for someone who a phase 2, idol, and promotion roll out at their feet and the Iq tour is too snappy should they get an all road or wild streak

[@LukeRosdahl]

Sounds like super super dry lanes if that's happening . . Wild Streak probably? But that's tough, Wild Streak is going to snap if an IQ Tour is snapping . . more like Tropical Surge or something and take the shine off of it . .