Should be cleaner and sharper than both, a little weaker than the All Road and a little stronger than the Ivory

This one doesn't have anything in common with the Night Road, especially if you didn't resurface the Night, so I'd say you'll be safe here.

Either one really, I think the Anger will be a little stronger, this one will be a little cleaner and a couple boards weaker, but you wouldn't be disappointed with either one I don't think.

Not that close, the P3 had a significantly stronger core and somewhat stronger cover. The on lane shapes look similar, I'll give you that, but the P3 was probably an easy arrow stronger.

@@LukeRosdahl good to know. Yeah on paper I know R3S Hybrid is stronger than R2S Deep Pearl, and the core numbers are different. Since I got my P3 a few years ago, my rev rate has gone up and I don't consistently bowl on enough oil to use the P3 anymore. So the Warrior looks more usable. Thanks.

I have thought about that several times, because if somebody gets a little stuck in just throwing shots, I'll ask them questions to get their thoughts out there, but sometimes I'm having a conversation with someone in the background too, so it's been a little dodgy sometimes. Often times there are other people there practicing, James is there quite a bit when we're filming so sometimes I'll be talking to him about something completely different and it causes problems. However, I don't necessarily have to have the mic on the whole time, I can be more intentional about putting it on and saying ok let's have a little conversation, which is what I think you're talking about . . I just never know how stuff is going to be received. I've tried out all the requests I've been getting this year and all it's really done is tank the channel, even when I've followed what I thought were good suggestions like this one, so I'm not entirely sure what I even want to try at this point.

On paper this one should be cleaner, weaker and sharper, but on the lane, this one seems a touch cleaner, definitely sharper, but about the same strength . . so I'm not really sure what to tell you to be honest. I know that doesn't help, but for some people I think this ball is going to feel stronger than the Road.

The one I think that looks the best right now is the Mesmerize. It's strong and sanded without being early or slow, but it's not super clean and flippy either. The Criterion is a close second.

The Origin has a much stronger cover than the S2, but the S2 comes sanded, even then the S2 is still weaker and gets a little clean from deeper angles. Out of the box they'll feel fairly similar, but once you get some shine on the S2 they'll separate. They'll both be cleaner and weaker than the Harsh, but cover boards much more easily.

Not necessarily, remember this is a fresh challenge pattern and he wouldn't be using either of these balls on the fresh. When more friction shows up, the pin up will be more dynamic and the pin down will be more controllable.

Finally decades later people are starting to understand . .

@@LukeRosdahlstill being constantly repeated on KZbin “ball” reviewers. It’s an uphill battle.

Lol you mean Randy Pedersen on pba shows from a decade ago

Pin down less flare =clean smooth

The DV8 Hater I think gets the nod, the core numbers and cover strength are the closest, plus it just kind of rolls like one too.

@@LukeRosdahl definitely overlooked that one. I’ll be taking a second look, thank you sir

I'd talk to your pro shop about that, there are too many details I don't know to suggest a layout.

Really just a different shape I think, this one is probably a little smoother without this kind of rev rate. Criterion is more of a hook set hockey stick kind of reaction, this one is more an arcy tumble. Criterion I think is probably slightly stronger and sharper.

Awesome!! Glad it worked out!

His layout is basically the same thing, very little difference between the two so it's at least in really similar territory.

If he isn't, he should lol.

Jessy is a gangster.

Yeah he really likes this one.

I had the Black Chaos.

Yeah I think so, very similar numbers and reaction.

Yep. On paper this one has a little weaker cover but a little stronger core, however you're right, the on lane reaction looks very similar.

Probably something in between them, something like the Ebonite Real Time would be a great one to stick in there.

Nah, this is actually somewhat of a ball up. Stronger core plus stronger cover, you'd be looking more at something like the Attention Star to be the step down.

@@LukeRosdahl ahh gotcha. These ever changing 900 global covers are confusing lol. Will definitely look into the Attention Star. Would the Road Warrior be an option in that spot as well?

Road Warrior is a couple balls down, definitely quite a bit weaker than the Star.

@@LukeRosdahlthank you sir!

Factory polish makes the ball a little too over under for a lot of people. So they will change the surface right out of the gate to get rid of that factory polish. But if it works well for you, there’s no reason to change it. and there are no long-term ramifications for changing the surface. I have an IQ tour that I have polished up and sanded down many many times and it’s still performs.

Nope, actually helps the longevity if you take care of it. I keep trying to drive home the importance of surface to people but it doesn't seem like too many people listen. I'd say keep doing what you're doing

I find the same thing . I have immensely improved my game through surface management. I try to tell people i know how easy it is​. But most are afraid to do it. We can only lead the hoarse to water but we can't make them drink. Keep up your great work best informative videos out there. ukeRosdahl

It's actually a ball up from the X-Cell at the same surface, the cover on the Origin is quite a bit stronger.

Really strong dynamic asym and he doesn't need any help getting the ball to move, so he did that to take the edge off the ball reaction so to speak.

Ball down from this one? This one is already pretty weak, you'd have to go to a Tundra Blue Fire or something, it's going to be a touch smoother but still pretty boomy

@@LukeRosdahl What about something like the hustle wine? Looking for something longer. From time to time our lanes get fried by the 3rd game and the endeavor can be too much...

Wine might be ok, it'd definitely at least be smoother and generally speaking the SPI equivalent of a B7 ball is at least a half step down, but generally cleaner and a little weaker.

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Nah, it'd be the other way around. This one is the hybrid version and it comes sanded, so you'd definitely start with this one and then go to the original when it starts drying up.

Pretty similar actually across the board. Similar strength, length, friction response, etc. I think the Optimum Pearl probably rolls a little heavier, this one might be a little cleaner, but overall I think they'd be hard to tell apart.

I think the Stealth is a little earlier and smoother, similar hook potentials though, the Stealth doesn't seem to want to get that deep on the lane either, it seems to like straighter angles better.

I don't straight up remember, but I'm pretty sure it was 4x2, always drilled it strong because the core is kinda weak.

@@LukeRosdahl All good my man! I appreciate the quick reply, info, and your channel. All the best!

Fairly similar, more just a shape difference. The Stealth Hybrid is more arcy and this one is a rounder shape. This one might be a little weaker and sharper too, but just marginally.

Yeah it really does have that old school solid look and roll to it.