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6 Ways to RUIN Your FPV Drone!

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Rotor Riot

Rotor Riot

Күн бұрын

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@MrGaussFPV
@MrGaussFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still convinced that the best way to ruin your drone is to crash it
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
just look guys like Captain Vanover and you will know if you are going in the right direction.
@ferdifant_fpv686
@ferdifant_fpv686 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you got a point...
@just4amigoz
@just4amigoz 3 жыл бұрын
Lol🤣🤣🤣agree.
@billyshears9714
@billyshears9714 3 жыл бұрын
You might be onto something
@shogun231084
@shogun231084 3 жыл бұрын
From the videos I've seen I would say the best way to ruin your quad is let drew fly it 🤣🤣🤣 And I say this out of jealousy that he is so much better than me.
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 жыл бұрын
I was just in the middle of a sub 250g 8 inch quad with titanium screws and nylon stand offs only 5 mm high wrapped in red electrical tape with a huge picnic table of a spoiler on the back and the most resilient wooden bumpers you've ever seen! IM OFFENDED BY THIS VIDEO!!!
@tribefpv
@tribefpv 3 жыл бұрын
Bro so funny 👍
@planksimonproduktion9399
@planksimonproduktion9399 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂man this is so funny it made me laugh on a rough day. Thanks!
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@matthebert007
@matthebert007 3 жыл бұрын
Damn shame- did you have the 2 lbs of 3D printed parts ready too?
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthebert007 Now that would be silly....... 🤣🤣🤣
@underkutfpv5108
@underkutfpv5108 3 жыл бұрын
me and my nylon standoffs are gonna go cry in the corner. hahaha
@processingunit5321
@processingunit5321 3 жыл бұрын
now go buy steel ones
@mateensaliminejad1853
@mateensaliminejad1853 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t flown in months and am missing it so much😭
@nefffpv6002
@nefffpv6002 3 жыл бұрын
I feel
@NathansLife
@NathansLife 3 жыл бұрын
@@nefffpv6002 woah we have closely the same username.
@nefffpv6002
@nefffpv6002 3 жыл бұрын
@@NathansLife BRO WHATUP
@cowboyfpv2464
@cowboyfpv2464 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I missed it so much to a point I said as long as I fly something even if it's one pack I'm chill 😂😂😂 I stress tf out if I can't be in the sky 😂😂
@MadDragon75
@MadDragon75 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting back into it. My poor batteries... They lost their soul. Maintenance people.. Don't forget to maintain them.
@Lozoot2
@Lozoot2 3 жыл бұрын
Here's an easy one I'm surprised you guys didn't mention: Not using your smoke stopper because you're too lazy to reach over the extra foot to get it and you're _pretty sure_ you soldered everything up correctly on your first try.
@CockroachSlidy
@CockroachSlidy 3 жыл бұрын
Never had one of those. I use my bench power supply to test drones. It has short protection and, as a bonus, shows how much current is drawn.
@wongalahara8196
@wongalahara8196 3 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that people can't tell if they've soldered something incorrectly.
@Lozoot2
@Lozoot2 3 жыл бұрын
@@wongalahara8196 I was the same until I followed a chinesium wiring diagram that was included with an ESC, which turned out to be for a previous revision where the vbat+ and ground pads were swapped
@wongalahara8196
@wongalahara8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lozoot2 snap good point dude. I didn't think about that!
@Lozoot2
@Lozoot2 3 жыл бұрын
@@wongalahara8196 and sometimes it's not even the solder job - a lot of the times the wiring harness from a FC to a 4-in-1 doesn't match up and it's easy to mistake which side is supposed to be "up" on the wiring diagram. Just yesterday I wired one backwards at first but caught it when triple-checking with my multimeter. I'm glad I've made it a habit to check!
@darknessmoto9912
@darknessmoto9912 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from rc helis and being new to fpv quads these videos are awesome. I understand flight and how everything works even though I lack the drone flight hours to be considered half decent. Hearing people who have been on this side of flying talk and their experiences and knowledge is fantastic. Keep it up.
@dalemurray6834
@dalemurray6834 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget JB. 1 more way is to link your air unit and goggles with a metal pair of tweezers
@BubbyFPV
@BubbyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@loen9591
@loen9591 6 ай бұрын
@@BubbyFPVwhat? you answered here and no one noticed????? in 3 YEARS??????? YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@maritimesoul
@maritimesoul 3 жыл бұрын
I come from the aerospace industry where titanium is used frequently. I believe you're right Joshua, you can make smaller lightweight parts with titanium but you are correct in that if any of the highly polished surfaces showed any signs of even the lightest scratch that part is scraped in my industry, titanium will fatigue fail where steel will just slowly deform.
@danusas88
@danusas88 Жыл бұрын
But if you're going to crash your drone, wouldn't you prefer the screws to be the weakest link so that you'd have a better chance of saving the motors? The crash impact energy needs to be absorbed somehow; I would prefer it not go to the motors.
@1997Jeep
@1997Jeep 11 ай бұрын
​@@danusas88Titanium and steel have different levels of DUCTILITY. Steel can undergo significant plastic deformation before it fails. Titanium, is more prone to fracture. Over tightening a steel screw stretches it, and locks the threads, a titanium screw fractures and fails when you are depending on it later. ( I hope this isn't a lightweight build intended to be around people )
@terryrhue7354
@terryrhue7354 3 жыл бұрын
How about an episode of Rotor Riot about all the bad builds you've all done and why they exploded or blew up while explaining what you all did wrong. Think I've destroyed about 5 flight controllers and 4 in 1 esc's, several VTX's ect. As always Great content, Thanks for all you guys do!!!!
@HellHoundzProductions
@HellHoundzProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Never thoughts about it but from a former aircraft assembler your right. We would put lead rivets where expansion and contraction would happen and titanium composite bolts where we needed rigidity They would bend to an extent when trying to get a jammed one out, (because it wasnt pure titanium) but once that tension point was reached to would snap like concrete.
@KyleLi
@KyleLi 3 жыл бұрын
How to build your drone badly: be me
@crazicat
@crazicat 3 жыл бұрын
The alloy of titanium used makes all the difference! The alloy they use for titanium motor shafts works OK. But most screws of any metal sold on the open market tend to be low grade easy to work metal. Notice haw Joshua said "high grade" steel screws.
@TJPDmember
@TJPDmember 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, comparing "cheap" titanium hardware to high grade steel is a stretch. Ti will fatigue faster, but a good grade Ti hardware is more than enough.
@jacobstumme6796
@jacobstumme6796 3 жыл бұрын
So I have only used nylon stand-offs... 😂 I haven’t experienced them breaking in a crash, but I have definitely melted them with my soldering iron!
@mattsupertramp6506
@mattsupertramp6506 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@julflips6
@julflips6 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I am able to smell which part of the drone I just melted
@KageBlink
@KageBlink 3 жыл бұрын
I've been flying a flywoo explorer lr as my first drone and been loving it. I know it doesn't try to be a 5" or anything but as a sub 250g drone, its great. Also I'm from Canada. One day ill get a 5" and feel the difference, I just don't want to deal with fines or anything like that for enjoying a hobby. I love flying and this hobby is great. These videos are super helpful in future decisions in what to avoid.
@XxJackerooxX
@XxJackerooxX 3 жыл бұрын
Drib: "A spoiler on my car is too ricey" (said while wearing guyliner)
@tehllama42
@tehllama42 3 жыл бұрын
Dildo flipstick would be a bit too far too
@XxJackerooxX
@XxJackerooxX 3 жыл бұрын
@@tehllama42 dafuq?
@flyerelite5153
@flyerelite5153 3 жыл бұрын
HHHAAAAAAA
@chrisdoherty4385
@chrisdoherty4385 3 жыл бұрын
i thought he was just really high
@easyefpv6609
@easyefpv6609 16 күн бұрын
Just throwing it out there, but you closeted, huh? Or mommy never gave you the tit you only had the bottle?
@rollinondubz2002
@rollinondubz2002 3 жыл бұрын
Ive broken 5 surgical titanimum rods in my back over the years. No ti parts for me
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
jezuuus mate are you ok?
@rollinondubz2002
@rollinondubz2002 3 жыл бұрын
@@ze2004 oh yes man been wheelchair bound since 4 years old. Nothing stopes me from doing what I wanna do. Well the broken rods do lol
@RewindFPV
@RewindFPV 3 жыл бұрын
damn another thing....... titanium screws...... tried shaving weight with aluminium screws over steel screws..... those just tore apart all the time and i broke tons of arms with them...... since i use titanium screws i never had any problems anymore. the only problem i got sometimes is that i ruin the thread in the motors cuz they are not as though as the titanium screws
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@RewindFPV now they have to improve the base of the motors in titanium
@RewindFPV
@RewindFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@ze2004 haha 😂 well i actually think there are some titanium variants out in the market tbh 🤔
@burnfpv3888
@burnfpv3888 3 жыл бұрын
Sat in my office, watching this. Sub 250g 5" and a red electrical taped 5" on the shelf. Feeling the love.
@RonnyKing
@RonnyKing 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@harrytmurphy8438
@harrytmurphy8438 3 жыл бұрын
You CAN build a nice sub-250g 5 inch quad. The fly really nice and smooth (without a fancy PID tune) which is exactly what I wanted; a 5 inch cruiser (no GoPro; not my thing). Also, it was quite durable; crashes never broke anything. Due to a video issue, I lost it in thick Florida brush. Anyway, I liked it and will build another sub-250g 5 inch; so I don't think this is a "RUIN"; quite the opposite. Since I don't do Acro and don't carry a GoPro, these builds are really SWEET and smooth little cruisers. I am also working on a light weight 7 incher. Don't know if it will make sub-250g, but think it will come in under 300g. Yeah, I know this is above the 250g mark, but I think it will be a nice long range cruiser.
@benfoust1
@benfoust1 3 жыл бұрын
i think there were a couple essential ones missed here. mounting the vtx antenna on the hole in the top plate, soldering the XT60 straight to the board without any wire in between, attaching the capacitor to the XT60 connector instead of inside the frame
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh that's good.
@Plur307
@Plur307 3 жыл бұрын
All of those are good tips. Basically you want nothing to be a rigid connection. Everything should be able to flex a little in a crash.
@stevensbox9625
@stevensbox9625 3 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with soldering the capacitor to the xt60?
@benfoust1
@benfoust1 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevensbox9625 while it is electrically effective, it puts the capacitor at risk of being damaged. they are very fragile and i have damaged countless capacitors even when they were mounted externally in a place that i thought was safe
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 3 жыл бұрын
@@benfoust1 Its electrically less effective. The point of the cap is evening out very fast spikes, any length of wire will slow it down mostly due to inductance.
@OpaFPV
@OpaFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Joshua, you are correct about titanium. The modulus of elasticity of Ti is 120 Giga Pascals and steel is 200 GPA. So steel requires more force to bend. Also steel is tough, meaning it can take an impact and not crack or break.
@seagullhunterfpv
@seagullhunterfpv 3 жыл бұрын
One thing not to do that I found out the hard way was to not make the wires longer than needed. 2 days ago I transferred my electronics from my old GepRC LX5 to a GepRC Mark4 frame and I managed to do so with minimal soldering, however this meant that my wires from the FC to the (separate) ESC's had no slack. I took it out and everything flown great, right up until I crashed into a branch hard on my last pack. The crash snapped an arm, but the flex from the crash actually ripped the ESC power pads right off the flight controller from the arms that didn't even break. This was simply because there wasn't any slack in the wires.
@typeOhh
@typeOhh 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean not to make the wires as short as you can and have some slack?
@seagullhunterfpv
@seagullhunterfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@typeOhh yeah lol. To be fair both. You want enough to have slack, but not too long that it's a mess
@vhfgamer
@vhfgamer 3 жыл бұрын
I've only broken nylon stack standoffs twice. One time when I dropped a quad from 300 feet, and the other time when it got ran over by a car.
@VR_combat_flight_simmer
@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 жыл бұрын
I broke them landing at a hover
@VR_combat_flight_simmer
@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 жыл бұрын
well, only one out of four broke, but still
@CorrexPoE
@CorrexPoE 3 жыл бұрын
@@VR_combat_flight_simmer well that seems not possible.. except your tune was so bad that you had huge oscillations?!
@VR_combat_flight_simmer
@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 жыл бұрын
@@CorrexPoE yea, the oscillations were so bad on that drone. I was my first one two years ago. I thought I was really bad at flying until I built a new clean one, lol.
@ficere5192
@ficere5192 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reassurance, just bought 15 bucks worth of standoffs for my future builds then watched this.
@skyrotfpv
@skyrotfpv 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about slammed builds. The BQE Bandolero is such an amazing frame and not as hard to build or as heavy as it seems. Much love to BQE! 🤘
@dishwashersafe222
@dishwashersafe222 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the titanium screw point! It's a pet peeve of mine. Titanium is stronger than steel for the same WEIGHT, but weaker for the same VOLUME! When you replace a screw, you can't increase the volume, so you end up with a lighter AND weaker screw.
@lolzinyourmouth
@lolzinyourmouth 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention titanium isn’t very ductile
@ChrisFloyd
@ChrisFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
"You need the extra downforce for grip!" ROFL
@badfourlife
@badfourlife 3 жыл бұрын
shots fired with that thumbnail, bardwells pissed 🤣🤣
@subiadad8169
@subiadad8169 3 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell i’m a machinist and i work with Titanium and a lot of metal alloys AND you are %100 correct Titanium is super brittle. Good call brotha.
@Noical
@Noical 3 жыл бұрын
High grade titanium screws work fantastic for motors. I use 2 ti screws on each motor and have never once had a motor come off
@Plur307
@Plur307 3 жыл бұрын
You should weigh them. You will be surprised to find out Titanium is significantly heavier than Aluminum. Titanium has a density of 4.5g/cm^3. Aluminum has a density of 2.7g/cm^3. 3 Aluminum screws will literally be lighter than 2 Titanium screws of equal size. Most people are confused about Titanium and think it is lighter (less dense) than Aluminum, it isn't. Titanium is a lightweight alternative to steel, but Aluminum is still an even lighter choice than Titanium.
@Noical
@Noical 3 жыл бұрын
@@Plur307 I have tried aluminum and had only bad experiences. Even three screws were never enough not to mention the constant stripping if you're not careful
@Plur307
@Plur307 3 жыл бұрын
@@Noical Yeah stripping is an issue. Takes a few mistakes to learn you can't crank them down hard like a steel screw.
@flo-ridafpv5713
@flo-ridafpv5713 3 жыл бұрын
Me too dude and 7075 alum...0 issues for years
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@Plur307 But you don't understand the principal thing that he is saying.
@austinsmith9413
@austinsmith9413 3 жыл бұрын
Poo sub 250gram 5 inch, I am legitimately in the middle of a sub 125gram all up weight 5 inch build. The quad is looking to be about 95grams and I have a 2s 300mah battery that weighs less than 16grams.
@SwainixFPV
@SwainixFPV 3 жыл бұрын
With the new EU regulations it makes sense lol
@bobturner3388
@bobturner3388 2 жыл бұрын
“Ships in bottles” I love it!
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 3 жыл бұрын
I still use nylon stand offs in my stack have zero issues with them
@henkdevries2971
@henkdevries2971 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're not flying hard enough 😜
@memorysound
@memorysound 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@thisguyeddiex7136
@thisguyeddiex7136 3 жыл бұрын
There's always that one guy...
@domdomalakazam4638
@domdomalakazam4638 3 жыл бұрын
they cheaper than long screws. how easy is to unbend screw after crash? if you know how to use it nylon standoff u be fine.
@daich
@daich 3 жыл бұрын
some 4in1 racerstar ESCs need nylon standoffs as two of the holes are ground and the other two are positive battery voltage (not even the rubber isolators as those have metal threads which will rub and short out between layers....ask me how i know)
@neonoir__
@neonoir__ 3 жыл бұрын
Mistake number 1 was bying a racerstar esc
@daich
@daich 3 жыл бұрын
@@neonoir__ yep, lesson learned about 3 years ago. but when you start out it was hard to resist the cheap stuff to "save" money. especially when every now and then there is a gem.
@wavesummit
@wavesummit 3 жыл бұрын
@@neonoir__ it's the same as the holybro tekko s
@TheEviling
@TheEviling 3 жыл бұрын
Glad i didnt use mine yet, would have fried it for sure. :)
@Pile_of_carbon
@Pile_of_carbon 3 жыл бұрын
@@daich I'd say going for the cheapest parts in general is a good way to ruin the quad. I have a couple of FC: s that I bought because they were cheap. Welcome to gremlin city!
@crb1crb239
@crb1crb239 2 жыл бұрын
i just like the fact that there is a f4 flight contoler stack thing in Joshua's background
@megatryn
@megatryn 3 жыл бұрын
I use high quality titanium screws from KCNC on my discs for my disc brakes on my downhill mountain bike. They have survived without problems for 4 years without issue now. I can't see how they can't take the strains of a quad-motor if they're good quality.
@ZacharyPiercy
@ZacharyPiercy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they can certainly have *_enough_* tensile strength to get the job done (have used them and other superalloys for my job), but I think the main point JB is trying to make is their strength is still lower than a standard high grade steel fastener. Steel also generally has higher elongation at failure (9-12%) than Ti (8-10%) which helps to “fail-safe” by yielding and becoming loose rather than fracturing. tl;dr - Titanium has higher specific strength (strength/weight) but lower absolute strength. IMO if you’re bashing your DH rig around I don’t think the couple grams of lower mass is worth the loss of robustness/failure warning, but they do look sweet!
@megatryn
@megatryn 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyPiercy On my DH rig, I save weight where it is possible and add strength where needed. Ti bolts on places that has shear load and non critical load tensile load (disc rotor mount, link monut, shock mount, seat post mount). Tires, tire inserts, and rims I use proper stuff that can take a beating, I build my own wheels with double butted spokes and brass nipples. I would for instance never use ti bolts to mount brake calipers or for stem bolts. So, yeah. Ti bolts ar perfectly fine if you know where to use them. And for looks: Mine are silver, so the look kust like regular steel bolts.
@EraZz187
@EraZz187 3 жыл бұрын
Now i'm ready to print a good ass looking spoiler for my Quad
@martin09091989
@martin09091989 3 ай бұрын
Yea, for the sub 250s I go for 3"! 1804 motors, 3052-3 props, 20x20 stack and a O3 air unit and a 650 mAh 6S.... I mean 3s... Battery! 🤫 At 6S it's a serious race quad, at 3S it's a milde cinewoop! Very versatile! But don't forget to tilt your camera between modes! 😬
@KaossFPV
@KaossFPV 3 жыл бұрын
lol... looking at my stack with nylon standoffs and just realized 2 of the nuts on top came of.... didnt have any issue flying but i think i'll have to do a rebuild now :p
@KaossFPV
@KaossFPV 3 жыл бұрын
disagree on the 3d printed parts btw :p ya'll know why XD
@travisSimon365
@travisSimon365 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! I think that spoiler on the rear is kinda low-key awesome. I would totally rock one. And I might even replace it once or twice. After that ... not so much.
@Pomaufour
@Pomaufour 3 жыл бұрын
Solar powered cars look dumb yeah, but it s what makes that technology move forward...now it's gone forward you are well happy to have more efficient solar panels on your roof.
@fullthrottlefpv5616
@fullthrottlefpv5616 3 жыл бұрын
i like how the explosion effect you used is one i used before its like the first one that comes when u google it lol
@mbrsart
@mbrsart 3 жыл бұрын
Emax uses nylon frame standoffs on the THFS, and I've gotten close to stripping like 3 of them on mine.
@dr07828
@dr07828 3 жыл бұрын
I use nylon stand offs for my stacks.I have had pretty hard crashes and not haven't broken them. I have also broken them, but after a ton of abuse. I have also used metal screws. Nylon standoffs will not ruin your build. at least on the stack any way. I have used them since starting, and I will admit that I probably wouldn't have had to replace the few that I have, but I have had nearly no issues with them.
@carsonlight_lapse6394
@carsonlight_lapse6394 3 жыл бұрын
12:58, 5" under 250 grams, and yet you're doing it right now on the new video LMAO :P
@tobiaserdmann1614
@tobiaserdmann1614 3 жыл бұрын
15:31 the outro 😹😹 man this killed me 😹👍🏼
@ofiasdfnosdf
@ofiasdfnosdf 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started in 2014 I kept mounting my video antenna un-anchored. The cap would catch on a branch and rip out the entire video pipeline.
@KrotowX
@KrotowX 2 жыл бұрын
Did that in 2017. Frame wasn't suitable for FT48X VTX brick so I glued it to top plate from bottom with double sided tape. On last battery hit a branch with VTX antenna and my video concoction got ripped out and lost. Fellow pilots found it 4 months later in same spot, rotten beyond repair.
@matthebert007
@matthebert007 3 жыл бұрын
I like to solder across the bat and the gnd while the battery is connected. [while trying to make the lights work]- It is the BEST way to kill your FC and ESC 💪 I like it so much- I did it twice.
@KyleLi
@KyleLi 3 жыл бұрын
All my builds are pretty much slammed, I have so much regret fitting an air unit into every single one of them... :'( A T-Motor F7 55A esc stack, crossfire nano, GPS, RGB controller, and buzzer into the tiny space of the racing frame that is the Transtec Laser was my first mistake. Doing the exact same with a Flywoo chasers frame was my second lol Repairing both of those takes a full day of disassembly. In order to replace the motors on either of them I have to completely disassemble the quad and with the transtec laser HD I have to remove the bottom plate and the arms as you feed the motor cables underneath a pocket created between the arms and the plate. Nightmare fuel. I've disassembled and reassembled that quad a dozen times now... so many hours of stress. Surprisingly my easiest drone to build in is a beta95x v2... If you want to build a drone with those features I mentioned above, build it in a freestyle frame not a racing one or you'll suffer.
@gap8526
@gap8526 3 жыл бұрын
After 2 years w a transtec laser (Nevers break anything ) I have finally done a ''''''''clean'''''''' build
@KyleLi
@KyleLi 3 жыл бұрын
@@gap8526 this lmao, I fear the day I break an arm and have to disassemble the entire frame. That might be the day I switch haha
@gap8526
@gap8526 3 жыл бұрын
If u want to ne a pro par tertris just start w a racing frame x)
@KyleLi
@KyleLi 3 жыл бұрын
@@gap8526 LMAO I jinxed myself. I forgot I posted this, but a week after I posted this comment about breaking an arm, I BROKE AN ARM. Decided I wasn't going to deal with it and bought a catalyst machineworks shocker tank. Honestly it's a much more difficult frame to assemble, but so much easier to replace a component once it breaks.
@GoldenMiyagiSan
@GoldenMiyagiSan Жыл бұрын
I think you guys should revisit this list for this year😝
@Subsp4cer
@Subsp4cer 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video just to find out why in the thumbnail is a quad with duktapet wires on the arms (like mine) and it was just a joke in the end xD! Thats klickbait at its best! Nice video
@sirBumpyCase
@sirBumpyCase 3 жыл бұрын
YES KING - female-female nylon standoffs with metal bolts for the stack
@Perforator2000
@Perforator2000 3 жыл бұрын
I used 5mm tall nylon standoffs for a Kakute F7 flight controller because that is the only option. The mounting holes are not sized for soft mount grommets.
@6_Carboncrow
@6_Carboncrow 3 жыл бұрын
I have mounted several Kakute 7 with steel standoffs by cutting the rubber bumber in half and placing it underneath the FC. Next down the standoff is a plastic washer sitting on the ESC bumber. Works great. With the Kakute foam mounted gyro, it's all probably dampening overkill anyway!
@ahamedkhan232
@ahamedkhan232 3 жыл бұрын
The parallels to the car world had me ded lmao
@gonun69
@gonun69 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I only did 3 out of 6, that's pretty good in my book :D
@dan71559
@dan71559 2 жыл бұрын
Love hearing these guys hammer on each other
@WilkieaSt
@WilkieaSt 3 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah someone finally said it. What's the obsession with 5 inch for the 250g category? Why not 7? Why not make a sub250g X class? Where do you draw the line? You draw it at flight performance and durability. 5 inch has been the magic number for a quad that you can sling around with a GoPro attached and catch sweet imagery. There has never been an enormous trend of pilots freestyling on 3 inch or 7 inch with a GoPro. 5 inch is the sweet spot. When an action cam as good as a GoPro comes out around 20grams then put it in a three inch and we will be seeing similar awesome results
@WilkieaSt
@WilkieaSt 3 жыл бұрын
Sure there's the insta 360 go but I believe it doesn't have the battery life or storage space of a GoPro? Correct me if that's wrong
@stickboyfpv4742
@stickboyfpv4742 Жыл бұрын
04:52 dayyyngggg I never knew this! Thats actuallyy awesome Drew.....!!!!😆
@SilverbackSasquatch19xx
@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 2 жыл бұрын
The harder a metal is the easier to snap, that’s the truth I learned that in a metallurgy class
@supermaxua
@supermaxua 3 жыл бұрын
I think much better when broken nylon standoff then when metal screw broke your FC like Kakute F7 which don't have rubber dampers.
@theHotpointHoodlum
@theHotpointHoodlum 3 жыл бұрын
I friggen hate nylon stand-offs. They still ship with them on the stack
@LetsFlyRC
@LetsFlyRC 3 жыл бұрын
Put Drib stickers on it. Ohhhhhhh 😮. 😂 just kidding, buddy. Hehe
@BubbyFPV
@BubbyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@johncarold
@johncarold 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Guys. I laughed at the spoiler and I like it at the same time. Thanks again for the video and information on the No No's of building a drone.
@infa008
@infa008 3 жыл бұрын
On the motor screw topic. Steel is heat treatable to increase hardness and strength. This is the aspect that makes steel tougher for motor screws
@TriggerFpv
@TriggerFpv 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the spoiler quad 🤣 that's actually when I started following drew 🤣🤣
@MadDragon75
@MadDragon75 3 жыл бұрын
Ribbon cables.. Ah! Don't get me started on my Walkera Runner 250. 😬. That was my first quad. What a nightmare.
@thetruthwithin1
@thetruthwithin1 Жыл бұрын
You're correct about titanium, where as far as strength by weight is concerned titanium is stronger, overall strength still goes to steel. The modulus of elasticity and yield strength is higher in steel. Although you were incorrect about brittleness, it's actually quite flexible.
@ryancheesman400
@ryancheesman400 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct Ti is brittle, but not as much in modern alloy form
@drumstickscarecrow
@drumstickscarecrow 3 жыл бұрын
One of the tiny whoops that I bought came with a spoiler on it. I looked at it like "wtf is this, and why is it there?" It might've lasted a week at most before it was bent up so bad that I had to just break it off.
@baggszilla
@baggszilla 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha love it! The red electrical tape is deff a Bardwell signature.
@ericapelz260
@ericapelz260 3 жыл бұрын
The EMAX TinyHawk Freestyle used female-female nylon standoffs for the frame. I replaced them with brass after they stripped out.
@wildchildren
@wildchildren 3 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy the banter thank you guys for being inspirations to the movement !
@jp-3dairgunworks152
@jp-3dairgunworks152 3 жыл бұрын
New shart byte uses the stacked pin headers between the boards.
@ofiasdfnosdf
@ofiasdfnosdf 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard about the stacking pin header issue, but damn - that explains all the weird problems I have had with my Babyhawk R!
@Shadowcruise99
@Shadowcruise99 3 жыл бұрын
*What about an integral, Immortal T spoiler?*
@codyshilliday4615
@codyshilliday4615 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhat hilariously I watched this video last night, and just crashed my quad only to find all my nylon standoffs snapped
@robertfazekas4607
@robertfazekas4607 3 жыл бұрын
I use wooden camera tilt as well, because I don't have 3D printer. Works great! 😁🤘
@langoustyyy7429
@langoustyyy7429 3 жыл бұрын
My fc has the holes for the screws directly connected to the battery + so if I use metallic screws it will burn the vtx on top of it that has holes to ground Stuck with nylon screws, crashed so may times none of them has broke yet
@KrotowX
@KrotowX 2 жыл бұрын
Nylon standoffs are fine if used properly. Not as frame supports indeed. But fine for keeping stack together. In my practice breaking them happened in very rare occasions on definitely hard crashes. Stacking pin headers for FPV quads became obsolete somewhere around 2018 when all new boards started to came out with filled pads and JST 1.0 sockets.
@sandrucristian1983
@sandrucristian1983 Жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner so your advices are golden rules for me. I was really thinking what would happen if I make X out of wood. I'm saved from an accident thanks.
@YotaGuy_Kyle
@YotaGuy_Kyle 3 жыл бұрын
I use titanium flight stack screws and nylon spacers. Works well.
@willraefpv
@willraefpv 3 жыл бұрын
Use this as an I use Nylon Screw Button
@ki-lowatt7789
@ki-lowatt7789 3 жыл бұрын
JST connectors have been the source of SO many problems for me. I hate them. If there are direct solder pads as well, I just pull the JST connectors off of the boards and direct solder. Plus, I like to conformal cost my electronics, and JST connectors are just more places for water to get in.
@skibaa1
@skibaa1 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that titanium has a high "specific strength", i.e. strength divided by density. So if you take a 1 gram titanium screw it might be stronger than 1g steel screw, in the same time it will be bigger. That's what I thought. But when I checked, steel has higher specific strength, too. Now I don't understand why they use titanium for turbines, etc.
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
Lighter in weight
@armandrone9016
@armandrone9016 3 жыл бұрын
The guys think they are the gods of the freestyle drone !!!!
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
the thing its not the titanium it self. The thing its the carbon that will be broken by the titanium and will bend the aluminium. Are materials that doesn't make good couple. Titanium with stainless still or steel will work better. Titanium will not bend for the aluminium or for the carbon and thats bad.
@colinrountree987
@colinrountree987 3 жыл бұрын
hi guys fpv is an amazing hobby!
@dylanpoe2827
@dylanpoe2827 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Joshua was half kidding/just trying to make a point, but I will say that most people that participate in the Solar Car endurance racing that he was talking about know that it's not yet feasible for everyday use. Most people see it as the innovation that will one day be able to make it to market, similar to how people see our hobby compared to commercial drones. The competitions are designed to be an engineering challenge and they provide a very fun way of learning and having real world engineering experience. That being said, if you look into the Cruiser class in the US you might be surprised to find that the vehicles that have been built are staggeringly practical (comforts and practicality are factored into their scoring). Credentials (if anyone actually cares): Major part of the design and construction of the University of Kentucky's Gato del Sol VI. Competed in the Formula Sun Grand Prix (FSGP) 2017-2019. Part of the team that broke (and still holds) the fastest lap record for a solar powered car at The Circuit of the Americas (COTA) by more than 40 seconds.
@TechnicallyTom
@TechnicallyTom 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium does tend to be more brittle. It is a stiffer metal, however when it is being manufactured into whatever shape is needed, it can alloy with other elements that make it less durable. It also tends to be more “slippery” than other metals and will have a greater tendency to vibrate loose if loctite is not used.
@matthebert007
@matthebert007 3 жыл бұрын
I also like to disarm in the air- I did that 2x. Last time was over a pond- total loss of a iFlight XL5.
@ze2004
@ze2004 3 жыл бұрын
Cute frame
@neilfpv
@neilfpv 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding standoffs, I'm using the rubber one. I have crashed more than 200 times, my fc and 4in1 esc are still in very good condition. I haven't changed it starting from the day I started learning fpv, June 2019!
@CarbonGlassMan
@CarbonGlassMan 3 жыл бұрын
They should make the frame carbon with one layer of fiberglass on one side and that side is the one exposed to the electronics. No chance of shorting out then.
@revertfpv2928
@revertfpv2928 3 жыл бұрын
mine frame is custom design 15mm its hard to fit anything there but after some time i found the perfect setup and its even easy to repair
@DronoTron
@DronoTron 3 жыл бұрын
great video. I would add, full tpu canopy for a racer. Oh man , i did it and ended destroying absolutely everything inside the drone on a hard crash. Only the carbon frame and the motors survived
@ayitsyaboi
@ayitsyaboi 3 жыл бұрын
On point about the slammed frames. I bought the Phreakstyle from Xilo slam deck frame and went through 4 cameras before I found one that fit and my fc wires are physically crammed by the top deck. Will never buy it again, but I'll admit the challenge was fun and it looks rad.
@OA_RA_FBA_FBM
@OA_RA_FBA_FBM 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I enjoyed this video so much. The ending tho 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV Жыл бұрын
Bro until I see some aero tests I'm not convinced the spoiler can't be helpful for cornering or some shit lol 😂
@posrproductions4605
@posrproductions4605 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of cheap Titanium Grades with a low strength, so maybe you are right with that. But a great titanium grade got a tensile strength up to 1000MPA, so it is really amazing. Best regards.
@AggieRC
@AggieRC 3 жыл бұрын
The BetaFPV pins were the A1 best way to murder the separate FC/ESC combo in the early 75x/85x drones from them, proper fucked in any sufficiently interesting crash.
@RewindFPV
@RewindFPV 3 жыл бұрын
i never had any issues with the nylon standoffs for the fc actually
@SettekFpv
@SettekFpv 3 жыл бұрын
07:08 rember me on the wizzad hv where you try to tune and setup the esc and the only issues was the nylon standoff where to long
@cheetahfpv6476
@cheetahfpv6476 3 жыл бұрын
I use nylon on my rig and i break arms but ive never had my standoffs break? the main screw through the carbon is steel but the standoffs between the stacks are just fine
@justrooster4157
@justrooster4157 3 жыл бұрын
when rotor riot turns into a podcast😂
@p4jix
@p4jix 7 ай бұрын
11:35 Today I learned the hard way that titanium motor screws are bad. The screws snapped in half and I ended up breaking off one of my motors and further damaging my quad.
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