Rough & Tumble Street Dog - What would you do? Follow along and YOU Decide if this dog is Adoptable.

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[@IcicleFerret]

I also lean towards sending the dog home with the family. She's strong, but from what the video shows, she's not agressive. And the little dog doesn't look scared or intimidated by her, just overwhemled by her energy. And as was stated, the pittie responded well to corrections. She's smart and can learn. No dog is perfect, and no family is perfect. Waiting for the "perfect match" would mean waiting around forever.

[@rptrick79]

The last part of your reply is so true. Double edged sword, rescues say "would do best as only dog in home" to cover their butts, rightfully so but then just leave it at that most times. which then may cause these dogs to be over looked without further explanation as to why. then the dog rots in a kennel and gets anxiety ridden and more unadoptable because shelters dont have the knowledge, staff or anyone willing to try to do temperament tests or work with the dog at all.

[@BDTraining]

Your last part is exactly right.

[@CodyKush]

Playground X

[@simoney3649]

Spot on that pitbull is smart and can learn. The video is not full version, I am sure Joe talked with the owners long enough to know that they can handle this type of rough playing dog.

[@marty7681]

The only fact that they went to see a trainer and take your advice means that they will be good for this dog

[@TexasLady220]

I sent her home with them. I felt she was trainable. Love a follow-up on how things are going.

[@zuzuspetals8323]

This is an excellent teaching method, rather like “case-based learning” in medical school. It teaches critical thinking and problem solving at the same time. Bravo, Joel, and thank you! You are a gifted instructor. I know, because I chose the right “adventure.” Best wishes to the dog and her new family. Cheers.

[@beaut-ful-d-saster]

This isn't a bad dog. She's capable of learning what *not* to do, and she deserves a chance at a loving home and a loving family.

[@grassfolk]

I watched both endings. I don’t think she’s a problem, she’s a bit much but she doesn’t completely loose her mind. Being correctable is huge. I’d probably avoid uncontrolled meetings, like dog parks, because of how she approaches dogs - she looks like she’ll escalate if another dog doesn’t take it well. Maybe not, maybe it’s all play. She doesn’t treat the little dog as prey, little dog wants to join in, I reckon she’ll be fine with attentive consistent owners.

[@robinsigmon6059]

I agree not ready for dog parks due to play style. Also, I was wondering how Joel felt about the guy bringing potential adopters with him without notice?

[@JoeR203]

@@robinsigmon6059 He probably charged them a little extra. Like when you have an emergency call to a plumber.

[@halobaby0331]

Yea she could start probs at the dog park if she comes across the wrong dog. I’d just keep her away from dog parks. We have a pitty that is good at listening to corrections, but can be too much with others including humans.

[@blueflare3848]

Well said. I completely agree.

[@justchilling7594]

This couple has previous experience with this type of dog they seem like confident strong people if anyone can manage this dog I believe they have a good chance. Mild mannered people with no previous experience with these breeds it would be a hard no.

[@ChaoticAuntFacetimes]

The dog isn’t aggressive but I worry about that prey drive. She is a good dog, very teachable and would make a great companion. I would have been interested in what would happen without the muzzle, as you have her wearing it the whole time (rightfully so). Especially in light of the attempted neck grab. That could seriously injure the little guy. I am sure the owners can physically handle the dog, but that will require constant supervision which is a ton of effort. Maybe I’m too conservative. Love your channel!! So informative!!

[@mofreak714]

I wish i got to see more of the couple handling her to see how they take charge . She is a good dog though and if they are mindful they can give her a good home

[@WollongongSkyWatch]

Long-term structure, structure, structure for this dog and she will be great. Good luck to the lovely couple wanting to add her to their family. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@stephaniec2079]

I think since they know the breed and she seems to respond to corrections really well. As long as the people are consistent then I think she would be a good fit.

[@fireballfitness170]

Great topic and format. My concern would be proofing the dog in all high risk situations, eg. around food, strangers or owners arriving, jealousy, etc. Also if Joel says yes then I trust his judgement. I also agree with the comments that say they don't have enough information on the couple, home environment etc.

[@koloblician5330]

The nature of that dog is similar to mine and I would lean towards letting it go home with the owner as long as they are able to advocate for the small dog. The prey drive means if the small dog runs its getting chased, if it stands its ground because it knows you have its back the pitt will not play rough. I have to do similar things with my dog meeting cats, if the cat runs its a problem if the cat stands its ground my pitt actually ignores it or even gives it extra space. Very good dog, not aggressive but plays physical and its up to the owner to accommodate that.

[@gaileverett]

I picked the "let her go home with them" option ONLY because of trusting that the potential owners would step up and commit to her proper training. Just saying that they were familiar with the breed meant nothing to me. They could be "familiar" by letting them out in their back yard to bark at the neighbors, and walk the dog on a tight leash all the time. But the fact that they were humble enough to allow you to make the decision meant, to me, that they knew what it takes to make a good dog. Would love to know how she turns out!

[@blueflare3848]

I chose that she should go home with them. She doesn’t have severe behavioral issues, she isn’t aggressive. The problems she has can easily be fixed with time and patience.

[@Issuf472]

You teaching me how to be mindfulness changed me a lot

[@flashover8231]

I think the people wanting the Pit can handle the dog however I would never leave the small dog and the Pit alone together. We all know how long it will take the Pit to turn and end the small dog.

[@Azreniakingdom]

After I saw her reactions to the corrections and how she calmed down. And then you said the owners were strong, I decided going home with them was going to be fine. I was originally worried about the tiny dog but the pitbull chilled out.

[@manicbat]

ive been wanting a dog for years and ive always liked these videos sometimes its hard to understand you but this is like an art form with how detailed your knowledge is

[@jdoveyk9422]

I noticed the small white dog was not running to the people for cover. He was dodging and weaving and just holding his own space. The owners having had two PB’s before and being their ages etc.., they can likely handle it. 👍 Red hat couple

[@denellsullada7697]

Thank you for this video, I could have watched the whole hour! I’m glad she will have a happy home:)

[@lbmautos]

As much as I love dogs, I've never been too trusting with pitties with small dogs. I know they can be great all-around pets, and ive met alot of great loving ones, but i also know as of last year of a violent attack where both dogs lost their lives, small dog was killed by the pittie and they had to put the pit down. I hate it, but that's just me. I would rather just have 1 or 2 of the same breed or better physical matches to maybe bring some stability to the lessen the problems. I know it's not a cure all, and proper training & socialization is most of it, but I want to know I can trust my pets when im not around. Jmo❤

[@iris7484]

at the 915 mark.. Hard to say without know anything about the people beyond their physical size and previous ownership. The fact that they're here would indicate good sense and caution but we don't know whose idea that was, could have been the fosters'. This is clearly a trainable and responsive dog but a lot of people can't do what Joel does the way Joel does it, and if they can't do those corrections when needed and how they're needed, then no, I wouldn't advise them to take on a hardheaded dog that's going to need a firm hand, not because I think the little dog is in danger, but because it creates a stressful household for everyone in it. But if they're on top of their game, then yeah, no problem. She's a great dog.

[@matthewthompson555]

Stopping at 9:14 to comment.... I'm sending her home with them to get adopted. I've lived with pits and my 10 yr old boy now is 1/2 pit... This is a very correctable and teachable dog. Looks like a good fit.

[@jongray4828]

They are physically strong enough to handle the dog but they should realize the work this dog will need!

[@356z]

I feeaking love these.

[@kristinakay9558]

Ya they’re experienced enough to handle it. She’s not vicious. If they stay consistent, she will be perfect in no time

[@boredgurl111489]

I didn't see enough of the people to make a decision. Having owned dog or pitbulls previously doesn't mean anything if you don't train them. How do we know his previous dogs weren't mannerless heathens? I guess as a trainer you wouldn't know that anyway but hopefully she doesn't become an issue.

[@steamer2k319]

Yeah, depends on the people. They both do look physically strong enough. Sounds like the guy had had pits before so he at least knows what he's getting into. If the lady didn't have much experience with dogs (especially more assertive breeds) and would end up as the primary care-taker (e.g., if the guy has a demanding job), I'd be concerned about whether she was psychologically prepared. It would depend on her personality. I'd want to see more Big Five personality trait "competitiveness" / less "agreeableness". If she's too agreeable with the dog, she'll get steam-rolled.

[@jillsy2815]

I agree didn't hear enough nor see enough of the people and it unnecessarily complicated things! Always love this channel though. 🐾💕

[@larag4646]

I was at the same point. Plenty of people are physically capable but they are just as capable of being lazy owners too.

[@jillsy2815]

@@larag4646A surprising number of people just need to be told what is and is not acceptable. They of course have to open to learning and changing. ❤️🐾

[@eidurbg]

Another good point is that the small dog doesn't mind the rough play at all, and isn't intimidated by having three larger dogs around. Still, the decider must have been the people's knowledge. Even if there is a potential problem or threat with the new dog, they will be able to handle it.

[@HWHY]

I saw no malice and lots of promise in the dog, but I would like to have observed them on a pack-walk before deciding anything. I need to see how the humans handle her and how she responds to them, especially in a novel and highly stimulating situation. Talk of experience with past pups is great, but I need to witness how they operate before I'm comfortable making a recommendation.

[@The-Dom]

This dog's great. Definitely not for a rookie.

[@markbenn1907]

Shout of to prince at 11:27. He calmed the waters there.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

I choose for them to adopt here. They really area such a good match. Thanks for the video. Yes, we would all love to see a follow-up on how this dogs going in her new home.

[@prndownload]

Wasn't it Cesar who says "you don't get the dog you want, you get the dog you need". I think the dog would be better off going to a no dog family. Dogs like this need someone who encourages a relaxed state but focuses their energy on fun intense play to give them an outlet.

[@vikingdogmanship]

Exercise that amps your dog up is okay in moderation but allowing your dog to engage in it every day will likely do more harm than good. This is highly individual but is most commonly seen with ball or Frisbee-obsessed dogs playing fetch every day. Id rather take this dog on hikes, weight pulling, bike jouring. Also if playing fetch etc i would make the dog wait, throw the ball, then give a release command to fetch it.

[@prndownload]

@@vikingdogmanship Yeah you should see my dog with instruction like that. He knows when I show empty hand the game is over and there no point persisting and to immediately transition mindset. This applies to different situations too like food. My dog will lay down and sleep not even facing me while I eat where as other faimly members he will sit there and apply pressure to the point they don't want him around or inside while they are eating. This is despite the fact I may or may not give him some at the end. It does my head in when I see a dog obsessed with an activity and especially when it's controlling the situation.

[@catlinis1960]

Yup she is trainable. I believe yo could protect and love that little doggie.

[@someusername4129]

Large Dog that likes rough play with a small dog is a no to me. Bad combo. This is not a bad dog though, but the match is bad. She's actually a really great dog but not with a small dog.

[@rptrick79]

I went with them having the dog based off of previous ownership, physical size of the new people and how she changes after correcting. It really just looks like rough play, Had she continued to pursue each dog as relentlessly as the first time after correction I'd say absolutely not with that little dog. It will need managed as they dont know her history but the fact that they came to you is telling also. Also, they have a that little dog. It looks like its their baby and I doubt they'd just go willy nilly and not stay on top of things and let something happen to it. They look like good responsible owners.

[@TheKanglor]

Them having a small dog is the only thing that made me hesitate with my answer, because while she seems rough and tumble, I think around other dogs her size she's do well. One thing I'd want to know is how much exercise/activity will she have with them? I think sl long as she's able to expend her energy most everyday, and also get some of the socialization done that she missed on the streets, she'll be a very good dog. I would still want to see how her and the small dog do over 2-3 days, just to make sure it's not a situation where one or both of them hate the other. Plus didn't really see the small dogs real temperament on here because it was in a strange place, new dogs, etc...at home he could act vastly different.

[@AlethrialTheElvenEmpress]

I think this is a really fun and creative way to approach educating people. So great job there! I decided that if the original people were wanting to rehome the dog, then the foster folks seemed like a good fit. The dog seems sweet but a little young. I think as long as they give her proper boundaries, training, and exercise, she’ll be happy with the little dog. :)

[@bp0819]

You made me want to comment on your statement that the Pitbull breed doesn't feel pain the same way. I had a Pitbull that was the sweetest girl ever. She grew up in the country and had the space to run in love chasing after deer. You would go for a walk through the woods and she would just zig zag across the deer trails for hours at a full Sprint. Now where she would show her breed is that you would try to trim her nails and she was the biggest softy in the world, but if she broke a nail while chasing a deer she would chase that thing for a week straight limping the entire time. Our neighbor once even called us concerned about her cuz they saw her hobbling across their backyard and we had to explain that she's just a hard-headed breed / girl

[@slade7612]

Good job to everyone involved!

[@raywill9149]

Yes it's good that she cannot only chase but also be chased It shows that she is just playing It's also good to watch the dogs play and let them get caught up in their game and then see if the dog in question relinquishes dominate positions willingly

[@carolewhite4427]

I like that she is able to regulate herself after a correction. With consistent, calm corrections this should only get better. I like that the prospective new owners already have big dogs living with the small dog and the small dog is happy and confident, not frightened and defensive around big dogs. I like that the prospective new owners have good energy, they too are calm and confident. I wouldn't have a problem sending her home with these people. She has the ability to learn and they are responsibly doing the right thing by coming to you for guidance. Good job! 😊

[@arborvitae999]

In my opinion, taking a second dog without asking the first one is not good. People can want anything for themselves there, even to get an elephant, but you need to rely on the first dog if they love it. Their first dog was more interested in a Labrador than a pit bull, and this is a sign that they are very different in energy. This means that they cannot be left alone together.

[@wattnowchris]

I really appreciate this video. I just joined a rescue as a foster and like the comments made about the prospective adopters physicality and breed experience.

[@bat__bat]

It didn't sound like the new owners had kids, just dogs. With vigilance they can live with the pit. The dog wasn't afraid or angry or anything anti social. Just rambunctious. Also if she's their only current pitbull that helps a lot. Pitbulls in pairs or more can be very unpredictable and risky.

[@panther7681]

Definitely not aggressive, more like she has a lot of pent up energy. She needs exercise, exercise, and exercise. With good leadership of the handler, she can be an awesome loyal dog in any family.

[@travisduggins5346]

I think she's fine with the fosters. I had a pittie with a 5lb yorkie. And the little guy put her in her place. The fosters have had this breed before so I think they will be ok.

[@WhiskeysMoon1976]

Wow, yup dhde, thkhghly enjoyed this 🐾✨, Ecellent & perfect situation to begin one.. right on joel, 👏 truly appreciate and admire you going above & beyond in all aspects l ☺️! Looking forward to seeing future videos & podcasts like it! Honestly, i look forward to anything Beckman training puts out here, but im especially looking forward to applying to be a student of beckmans dog training. Heres hoping my app is groovy enough i get accepted by y'all✌️💯🙃

[@nixe4912]

The pittie is very trainable. What most influenced my decision is that the couple have a calm, stable little dog who didn't squeal, yap or get stressed by the big bouncy rough pitbull. They know what they are doing when it comes to dogs and that counts for a LOT. I vote they adopt the dog !

[@fireballfitness170]

Great point

[@MaxAngor]

I could tell at a glance she was adoptable for the right humans. She requires a consistent and stern hand. She's a stubborn one but she didn't look stupid so with enough training and time, she'll learn what's expected of her. Edit: Small dog? I'd let the owners decide but warn the hell out of them that they're going to have to train her HOW to play with the small dog or end up with a dead dog. People need to have consequences to their actions. I'm not a "dog trainer" though. I'm just a guy with damn good gut instincts regarding dogs. People have no reason to take what I say seriously.

[@crash4dafun]

I agree with your assessment and I'm not a dog trainer either just to be clear (but would like to become one, one day though). Thought the same thing about a stern hand (structure). There was one thing in the video that worried me but it is only a small little take. At around 5:20 after she's getting reprimanded, the new dog's owner takes his hands out of his pocket and extends it down to the dog to comfort her after being reprimanded and she just dismissed him. He will have to show some more command and dominance to keep her from getting into trouble. His leadership skills will be a big determining factor in my opinion. Again, I'm a novice here, hope it all works out! ✌️

[@MaxAngor]

With my rescue pittie, he likes me. He loves my wife. He respects us both because we respect him. He knows what he's not allowed to do and what he can get away with and he knows if he plays by our rules, he gets walks and treats and play whereas if he doesn't, he lives a very boring life. Getting him to not lunge was a real challenge though, lol. His eyes are better than mine so he'll see a cat, squirrel or rabbit and he's off. Luckily, I've learned his pre-lunge cues and can cut him off now.@@crash4dafun

[@uncommonsense1976]

I would want to see both the woman and man handle the pit as well as see how the pit reacts with the little dog when there is food involved, possible resource guarding issues, etc. we had a neighbor who had a pit and the neighbor always said her dog was nice and we interacted with the dog. One day my daughter and I were out front and the dog chased my daughter to our front porch awhile the neighbor was screaming that her dog “is just being playful” I had to put myself in between my daughter to protect her from the dog and got my daughter safety inside. Does the couple have children or have children over? With rescue dogs it’s always a risk, because you don’t know the temperament of the parents. Even with great parents there is no absolute guarantee the dog will be a great family dog.

[@sethlemasters8261]

I am curious why you never took the muzzle off (that we saw)if you were confident enough to send it to the home with a small dog ?

[@vikingdogmanship]

I also wonder if she has any issues around toys, food etc

[@DaveWells300]

Bingo

[@xGUANdeLUPEx]

What a great idea!

[@ZaBuZaMoMoChi86]

The perfect reasoning is: am i Willing to risk the safety of my cat/dog/children/granny by adopting a pit/bully which can just go berserk anytime I'm not around?

[@jimh472]

I know this will get the Pittie apologists bent out of shape, but the breed is just simply NOT for the casual dog owner. Even the nicest ones can get too rough for many other dogs and owners. (And yes I've owned multiple PBs)

[@denniscoyle4791]

I chose to send her with the new family but I want to add they NEED to continue your style of training or that dog will run then roost. Thankfully they know the breed and that is a huge plus. Good video Joel

[@blueiiidgirl36]

Thats a beautiful pittie and I'm glad he's now got a new older, wiser pup brother to learn from.

[@OffGridDogs]

Okay, you can have the pit bull. But only if you also get a Great Pyrenees to protect the little dog from the pit bull. Just in case lol

[@rptrick79]

😂

[@Wobblyrage]

I actually kind of fear for the little dog, because she’s not as strong as the pit. And pits are a different kind of dog. If the little dog pushes it too far, it could get dangerous real easy with the pit. Especially with that background.

[@Wobblyrage]

@@HenryLowe_USA I know right? Sometimes a dog is better off as a single dog in a household. I really hope they don’t make a mistake causing the little dog to get killed. I mean: it’s been running on the streets which means it had to fight for food. And they want to rehome it with competition for food? I really hope they know what they’re doing.

[@armandhammer2235]

I agree with Joel. Thinking anthropomorphic is just wrong. A dog is a dog and a human is a human. How many human unions wind up in divorce? There is no perfect match.

[@jdo2574]

When people say they have had dogs before DOES NOT MEAN they spent any time training, walking or providing leadership both inside the house and out. Do not assume. I've see many owners that treat a bully like its a piece of furniture. Then bad things happen.

[@shlimey04]

I say send her home with them. Pitties are naturally rough like that and make mistakes, my pittie was also a bit too rough like that with my bulldog puppy when we first got him but i corrected him and it all worked out

[@lunarauditions9102]

I wish you saw the little jag terrier. My boyfriends family has, she is just a little terror. She has bitten multiple people tries to attack any dog and I just wish there could be so much more done for her. She needs a good trainer.

[@lucygoosy819]

I’ve heard that some dogs gain a level of independence & certainty out on their own which makes them more resistant to direction & correction. That’s not this dog. Could see it in the body language after Joel’s corrections. Joel - what did you recommend in terms of leaving these 2 dogs together alone without supervision? Can you please do more videos like this - scenario based learning is awesome, esp. when taught by someone proficient in their field. So many moving parts to consider. Loved it. Great way to learn! Thanks so much!

[@VypeReaper]

When are the podcasts? I have never been able to view your podcasts live.

[@UNDERDOGMMA]

They actually aren’t live. They are scheduled to drop every Thursday at 7am PST

[@VypeReaper]

@@UNDERDOGMMA where do they read the comments from then?

[@DogoArgentinoUnleashed]

joel it will be great if you bring Stonnie Dennis to your podcast next

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Have Joel go home with the foster family if they accept him

[@robertgregg8313]

Great videos!! You're one of my top 3 trainers I follow on KZbin. One question I have and you may have answered it, is what are you're feelings on prong collars? i notice you don't use them and employ the gentle leader.

[@Catbooks]

It's 9:15 and I don't have enough information to make a call. Saw what would have been a nip to Prince at 2:12-2:14. Excitement and prey drive, but not good with a small dog. I'd need to see how the prospective adopters handle her for a while before I can make a decision, but lean towards no.

[@dan_kay]

Dog trainer here with about 15 dogs a week for the past 20 years (yeah, I'm THAT old...): That girl still needs some educational boot camp before I'd let her into a family with small dogs. There is still too much unwanted behavior and not enough impulse control going on. I had a session with a Chihuahua who got literally jumped by a Rottweiler and ended up paralyzed. 18 months of therapy and a bill of more than 12,000 euros. Since that time, I'm rather careful when it comes to that temperament and smaller dogs.

[@GrungeTerrier]

So did she go with the couple and the little white dog? Hope so!

[@kristenburkett4274]

Okay. First i didn't have anything pop up on my screen. Do i need to be watching on a computer or is there a setting i missed somewhere? Second. I agreed they would be good for the dog. He has had pits before. The little dog is used to bigger dogs. The fact that they was willing to seek a professional for advice and deeper insite on how the dog may react or not around all kinds of other dogs is good for them. And that they know and are willing to do the work needed to make her the best example she can be for her breed. Also she wasn't really bad and took well to the corrections given.

[@kristenburkett4274]

Okay I think I figured out what the problem was. I found a setting that I needed to turn on. I still say she is good to go with them anyway.

[@TrumpOrKennedy.]

Teaching comment. It came down to the people. But we never saw the people in action even once. Not a fair test or particularly useful.i chose to send the dog home with them, but was basing it on your evaluation.

[@cselphenator]

I sent you an email about the coaching. Why did you not respond?

[@OffGridDogs]

I wouldn’t actually make that decision just based on 9 minutes of video. Was leaning in favor of the dog but would need to know more about the people than just how physically strong they are. The fact that they have owned the breed before well I’ve seen so many awful owners that have owned that breed before and were doing everything wrong so not enough information. I’ve seen lots of physically strong people who were super weak leaders and little old ladies who were super boss alpha lol.

[@robw4633]

Agreed, based on this 9 minutes... I wouldn't of. I don't know the future adopters... There's not enough to see. She needs training for sure; but I don't see malice in her. That said, this video would of been > 1 hour, and I have confidence in Beckman to make the correct judgement call. Based on this visit *and* his experience.

[@OffGridDogs]

@@robw4633yep Joel got to meet the people and see more than we did

[@melodieramsay655]

I agree with you. You need to see more than just a little video part to make any final decision about how well she'll do. My experience of fostering over 15 dogs in the last 10 years is that it's usually the 4th day that the dog shows how it's going to be going forward. It is sort of like when someone visits and then they start to feel comfortable in your home and you start to see some of their other behaviours, whether they're good or not.

[@rptrick79]

I think you may have just called Joel a little old "alpha" lady! At least that's how I read it 😂

[@larag4646]

I felt like she'd probably be fine. She seemed excited by the new scenery and new dogs more than high energy and just needed to run that off a bit. I'm not confident in my answer at all, though. Honestly, I guess I'm breedist regarding Pitbulls. I've met more nice ones than not so nice ones but I dunno. Just seems like they are more "triggerable" than other breeds. I don't think I'd ever leave the little dog and the pitbull together alone though. That little dog is too defenseless against a pitbull. I have a dobie and an italian greyhound. I don't worry that my dobie would ever go off on my iggie, but I don't leave them alone unsupervised anyway simply due to the size difference. My dobie ain't exactly gentle and could easily hurt him when playing. I think that type of precaution would be prudent with that pitbull and the little dog. I did like that she seemed to take correction well. She takes correction better than my dobie does. lol

[@The.Vikingr]

Hey Joel, my non dominant non agressive labrador bit a dog. He was next to some dogs and a fight broke out and he jumped in and bit one of the dogs. He wasnt even previously involved. Like I said he is generally very submissive. Why would this happen and how should I correct? The only issue I can think of is that he redirects and mouths and bites stuff when he is overly excited. Thank you!

[@jillsy2815]

This footage would be better used as body language/teaching the dog-reading aspects and response to corrections. It was very confusing trying to decide on the people aspect with too little information and you gave away the answer anyway. 😁 I don't want to see your channel turn into "Who's the Best Owner?" especially because thus far (at least what I've watched in the last 2 years) you've consistently taught us to be non-critical of owners. If the original couple came with the dog alone, you no doubt would have taught them how they need to be with a pitbull and that would have been a nice vid, too. I don't want to see people being labelled "not a good fit" even when it can be true. I like it when you show us how to understand/correct the dogs and show us how to teach people to understand/correct their dogs. All that said, this is a WONDERFUL channel with so much wisdom and I'm so proud of Joel & family & staff for continuing to grow! 🐾💕

[@susancardinal5102]

Based on my shelter pit and your videos, it seems an issue of tremendous focus as well as a high threshold of pain when dealing with them. Letting my girl hit the end of the leash to correct herself does not work. Breaking the focus and getting in her face the way you do when correcting the dog in this video is what does get through.

[@krystal6137]

On the plus side, the other dog is so little so if she launches herself at it she is just going to fly right over it.

[@lbmautos]

The biggest problem is when breeds like bull dogs, pitties, and rotties is the damage they can do so fast, and even if you can get them under control quickly, it can be the hardest battle physically to make them disengage. Bite force and gameness are a HUGE factor when having bully/mastiff breeds.

[@AndyJarman]

Staffies are fantastic fun loyal companions - but I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Those "shark" eyes are in that little head somewhere. I've known people who have had to put their own down because they just couldn't trust them when unsupervised anymore.

[@prndownload]

It's true some of them just have those beady shark eyes and you can tell one day their intensity is going to translate in a fight to the death with something and they'll absolutely love every minute of it. I let my dog be a judge of what we're dealing with because he's always been an off lead dog and never gets it wrong. There are ones with the scary look that are actually respectful and chill with the right upbringing and owner but there are some where I don't need to check what my dog thinks because he's going to avoid eye contact and slink past like a shadow.

[@robinsigmon6059]

Joel was it a problem that the guy showed up with potential adopters without notice?

[@BDTraining]

No a professional should be able to handle that situation easily. Also he may have emailed and I just didn’t see it.

[@jamesleutshe5664]

I'm 5 minutes in, and she has never once invited Prince or the little dog to chase her. Not a single two way engagement. At 6 minutes, people might read that as comfort/play/happy. I think she's just trying to figure out how to get the muzzle off. She's super dominant, and doesn't seem to have an inclination toward learning the proper order of things in a way that feels trustworthy. She doesn't seem aggressive, but something about the way she seems to be thinking, suggests to me it's only because she doesn't want to be. There's a point where the man tries to correct her, and she just totally goes "Eh, whatever dude." I'm not one of those people that is like "All pits bad!", but this one seems like one of those dogs that would flip for no reason to me. "Super sweet for years, and then one day for no reason, tore my other dog into pieces/tore up the mailman!" I'm not sure I'd adopt her to anyone. I loved the format of this video BTW. The yea/nay choice and logic.

[@jamesleutshe5664]

@@fireballfitness170 "It may be a reason that the humans didn't see " - If you can't see it, you can't predict it. And if you can't predict it, you're in dangerous territory where you can no longer ensure the safety of other living beings. "Can't see it" and "for no reason" are functionally the same thing. It's such a silly thing to say. Dominant in that she had to be the one in charge of what every dog was doing in her purview, and half the humans too. And it seems to be based entirely on how she's feeling in the moment, there's no order of operations in this dog's engagement pattern anywhere that isn't "me first". It's not dominance aggression, it's pack order. She thinks she's the boss, and doesn't seem to really be taking in the ordering and subsequent mental deference that should come from the corrections she received. It's more like she's allowing it. Sometimes. Joel got more respect that any other living being there and even that had an bit of "well, ok for now..." She's not a rage syndrome dog, but this dog is not ready to be adopted until she can understand and accept her place in the world. That day may never come if her personality doesn't allow and there is almost no indication that there's room for that anywhere in this video that I saw. She's not a bad dog at all, I just suspect she may have a "do not cross" line and no one's going to see it until too late because she's fairly affable.

[@fireballfitness170]

@@jamesleutshe5664 thanks for your thoughts. Last clarification is... do you mean the dog's not ready for adoption at all, or simply not to an owner with another dog? You were pretty clear so my guess is, not anyone at this time until the dog has had more training.

[@jamesleutshe5664]

I think she should be in foster care for a very, very long time until she starts to show a proper understanding of how the world works, and where she is in the order of things. If that doesn't happen, then never.

[@fireballfitness170]

@@jamesleutshe5664 thanks

[@qmerk2661]

if they learn from you and follow directions on how to keep training the dog afterwards, cuz the dog needs work of course, then sure. but if they dont wanna put the time into training the dog then, no. but that goes for anybody with any dog, so ..

[@XxGamer]

Stonnie has recently taught me that you Should Not get a Dog you Can't Whoop.

[@vikingdogmanship]

Stonnie i friggin awsome❤

[@VypeReaper]

In this video, the foster parents seem to be dedicated to discipline the pitbull and train it. I would let them take it home with them. However, I almost always lean over not taking any pitbulls or pitbull mix breeds. I am just biased against them due to my experience with that breed. Another reason is that I do not trust dog owners. Dog owners who own pitbulls need to be as bold and robust as their pitbulls or even stronger and more disciplined than their pitbulls. Joel has said it before, with any dog, if we (dog owners) don't put our foot down and are not training our dogs, anything can happen. Sadly, Pitbulls will flip/switch to aggressiveness faster than any other dog 95% of the time.

[@towpottsfam7631]

I'd give it a bit longer getting to know this dog. Until then they shouldn't be left alone together when the humans go out!

[@chandrasmith4722]

I didn't see them do any corrections. Some people are capable but aren't on it with corrections regardless of whether or not they could or not.

[@SC-ee7oz]

They absolutely should NOT take this dog home. Why do people take these risks and pour countless hours and loads of money into "saving" dogs with severe issues while dogs with virtually zero issues are left to die in shelters? I would never trust this dog around a small dog. This dog could grab it and kill it in the blink of an eye. I imagine the owners would probably say "it came out of nowhere!!! they got along so well!", yet we see the massive red flags waving right in front of everyone's eyes here. They should adopt a dog that doesn't have a high prey drive combined with a tendency to rough play. There are thousands of them sitting in shelters. I will never understand why some people go out of their way to create a stressful, high risk environment that will require constant micromanaging. All it takes is ONE mistake and it's game over for another dog, or worse yet, a person.

[@someusername4129]

Certain people love tough dogs and they like the coloring. They are willing to ignore dynamics and personality for their own ego. This dog did well with big dogs but was too much for the small dog. Still they adopted it. Pitbulls are no joke and if this dog was more attentive and gentle it would probably be fine. My guess is the little dog is going to have to struggle now to fend off the pitbull's prey drive.

[@catneedham4913]

That poor little dog. No one seems to notice that it doesn’t appear to LIKE the constant relentless play. Just because it’s “used to it” doesn’t = “enjoy it” and I would’ve stopped that Pit WAY before.

[@rptrick79]

The little dog never seemed to take itself out of the situation. A lot of little dogs run the show with bigger dogs. Not saying that'll be the case here not saying it won't but it wasn't running for it's life in fear either. This is a tough dynamic to make a choice on regardless.

[@rptrick79]

@@HenryLowe_USA Joel's main concern with the dog park are dogs that could kill his and the fact that Prince is intact which illicits a much different reaction from certain dogs especially if they are also intact. For you to say" it isn't true at all" would imply it never happens. Which is as ignorant as saying that dogs don't bite. In the end what you said and what I said doesn't mean these people won't be a right fit just because they have a little dog.

[@rptrick79]

@@HenryLowe_USA I need an English lesson because I didn't proof read my mf'in voice to text comment. You're 💯 correct.MY BAD!. Now that that is outta the way JA. I wasn't asking you to agree with anyone or anyone to agree with me. What I said was that a lot of the time the little dog will run the show. I never once referred to just Joel's videos you " oh so more intelligent human being". I don't care about you, what triggers you or what you think. You read the damn comment and then replied to the half that you could argue, twist in your favor to make yourself look in the right. Good job . It'll get you know where in life. Sure AF not in a discussion with any normal level headed human.

[@rptrick79]

@@HenryLowe_USA LMAO! It's not my responsibility to teach you about life. I didn't call ya Son did I? I triggered you. I only half read that, me saying what you said was ignorant and me calling you ignorant are 2 different things pal. I never once said it always happens, that's more what you're saying. You extrapolated out of this whole thing that there isn't ANY dynamic in which a little dog couldn't run the show and furthermore channeled your inner Zak George to try and talk in big words to further prove a point that I never really was arguing, you my buddy ol' pal were arguing my statement, in which i never said was a definite forgone conclusion. You thought I was calling you a name instead of disagreeing with you. Instead of actually reading it and understanding. That's on you.

[@rptrick79]

@@HenryLowe_USA I'll let you win. I don't really care pal. There's a football game on and it's .a little more entertaining than this. Sleep well.

[@LaLasta]

yes she should go home with those people! They are on it!!!

[@Maciek80511]

Could you please share what kind of a muzzle is used?

[@BDTraining]

Baskerville

[@Arete37]

We never saw the big guy in red hat interact with the pitbull at all except to pat her when she walked by him. Just because he could physically correct her doesn't mean he will at the right times. Or his partner, same thing. And that little white dog was not enjoying being chased around whether it was supposed to be play or not. It did not go up to the pitbull ever and initiate anything. Give the pitbull to a home with another dog who won't be knocked senseless.

[@targetsunshine6060]

Surprised that she doesn’t seem 😢very aggressive when coming off the streets.

[@judet3026]

I'd say NO. These people are not considering the needs of the dog they already have. The small dog was already nervous. It may start out ok but if for any reason this dog's prey drive kicks in the small dog will be at high risk. Why do these people want such a mismatch? That's the key question.

[@creameedwards9518]

Anything u can do for a male when a female is in heat ? Cause I'm almost to the point where I'm gonna have to clip him .. he isn't aggressive towards people but he might f a another dog up if it's between him and her . He jumped my little dog for just that reason not like a mean jump but like when Prince has had enough maybe his rougher ones . He just was like this is mine back off .. but is there anything I can do to override that essential oils fn cinnamon on the female idk I'm over my head on this one

[@Veredzil]

How did it end though? lol just kidding 😊

[@joyfulk9services]

I dont know the owners skillset enough to make that judgement. But they need consistent training with her. The dog is very disengaged and doesnt see value in them, yet. That can be built up. Thats a high drive dog & without functional obedience that is adequately enforceable, it will be a liability in any household.