‘Roughing the Passer’ The Patriots Raiders Playoff Game What Raider fans never talk about

[@planetaryevolution4853]

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[@scottmitchell3641]

It is very cold, in spaaaaaa………...Whoops. It is very cold, in January in Foxborough, Massachusetts.

[@dp233332]

@@scottmitchell3641 even won by 3 pts

[@ToneGirbaud415]

You dumb asses don't realize. That's a real call. Not like the tuck rule. Love to see you bitches now!!!

[@notquelo4217]

Yes it is

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

iPache Yep. 25 years later.....the Patriots would get a series of great compensation

[@johnrego5834]

RIP Gil Santos. Best Pats announcer ever!!

[@jpgiuliotti]

@johnrego5834 - Absolutely. We were so spoiled with great announcers (back in the day): Santos; Fred Cusick and Bob Wilson for the B's; Ken Coleman, Ned Martin for the Sox; and of course, Johnny Most for the Celts :)

[@leogetz3570]

There was no "Wild Card" round in 1976

[@Odawg96]

At 2:35…Grogan lookin’ like SHAGGY from Scooby-Doo…but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t saying “ZOINKS.”

[@jackcarraway4707]

My dad was stationed in Italy when this happened. He was so furious over the call he woke up the whole barracks block.

[@Salvatore1268]

Oh thats great

[@adamdorgant9454]

Thanks for Sharing!!!!

[@Saltydog12]

The tuck rule call had nothing to do with it being the last game ever played in Foxboro Stadium

[@tonydaysog9164]

Agreed … the Pats and Raiders are even when it comes to calls.

[@SSNESS]

Mike Haynes could’ve stopped Stabler from getting the last touchdown

[@tonydaysog9164]

Uh….no…that’s Upshaw clearing Haynes out 2:15

[@tonydaysog9164]

But … man … here I am, all of 57, remembering all those players (even the Pats) like it was yesterday! Remembering the playoff game and regular season game like it was yesterday. I was a 10 year old in 76 and just loved football…and the Raiders.

[@nbk4dv9]

Nope, 1986 makes it 2-1 pats lol

[@dboydboy1000]

Never knew about this one

[@mrtoast178]

If the Patriots get out of Oakland in that game, then they probably would’ve won the Super Bowl

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

Yep. The Steelers were without Franco Harris & Rocky Bleier and the Vikings were too old

[@timothygregory7719]

Yeah right...... It was the wild card game. Go back and see who they would've had to beat after (if) they won. Bahahahaha

[@mrtoast178]

@@timothygregory7719 the Steelers were banged up. Hell if they were fully healthy they probably would’ve beaten the Raiders. And the Vikings, well, are the Vikings

[@timothygregory7719]

@@mrtoast178 I don't think so. Steve Grogan was a terrible Quarterback in the biggest games.

[@gary6754]

LOL, they wouldn't have beaten Pittsburgh

[@dantheman5745]

0:49 Bob Ryan is right. In '76, the Patriots were the best team in the NFL. The Raiders went 13-1. Their only loss was a 48-17 gut-stomping by the Patriots in Foxboro. 1976 may have been the Steelers best team EVER. They only allowed a total of 138 points all year. They shutout their opponents a staggering 5 times. Yet they lost at home to the Patriots, 30-27. (New England's 30 pts. means that in one game, the Patriots accounted for more than 21%....or 1/5th...of all of the points Pittsburgh allowed all season) They also beat the Colts in Baltimore. Two bad games by Steve Grogan (opening day vs Baltimore...4 interceptions; Week 5 at Detroit...5 interceptions) cost New England the AFC East crown and forced them into the Wild Card slot, where they again faced the Raiders, this time in Oakland. (BTW, that was 45% of all interceptions Grogan threw all year. Nine in those 2 games, eleven in the other 12 combined) And they had the Raiders beat AGAIN. Except for that phantom call by the ref.

[@mikekaroules2820]

Maybe this call was Raider's version Quid Pro Quo.

[@frankdenardo8684]

@@mikekaroules2820 Do you remember the 1980 New England Patriots? They finished the season with a 10-6 record. Losses to the Houston Oilers in Houston, the Los Angeles Rams in Foxxboro then a loss in San Francisco and at Miami on Monday Night Football in which Howard Cosell announced that John Lennon was shot. He interrupted a commentary Frank Gifford y talking about the 49ers game the previous week. They did not make it to the playoffs. The Buffalo Bills won the division crown in 1980.

[@josephcoleman57]

@@frankdenardo8684 Yes l remember Howard Cosell announcing that Lennon was shot sick night

[@frankdenardo8684]

@@josephcoleman57 a big ratings draw. The next day at school it spread like wildfire.

[@genxfusion]

I saw this game live in 1976. Sugar Bear hit was illegal and it was called. Period. I'm over the tuck game of 2001. Oakland had every chance to stop Pats in 2001 even after the tuck play, but Pats took advantage of a call that went their way like they were supposed to. Same here in 1976. The game was not handed to Oakland, they did not get the ball on the 1 yard line. They still had to drive in to get the TD. Pats had every chance to still stop them and they didn't. GET OVER IT.

[@joevignolor4u949]

There was a running play on the previous offensive series by the Patriots that is often overlooked. Sam "Bam" Cunningham was running toward the sideline and he inexplicably stepped out of bounds about a yard short of a first down marker even though there were no Raider's defenders in the area. Apparently Cunningham had misjudged where the first down marker was. The Patriots failed to make the first down on the next play and had to punt. Had the Patriots made that first down they could have run out the clock and won the game.

[@williambevins]

In that same series they called motion on the Patriots to make the third and one into third and six even though, on replay, you couldn't see anyone move. On third down Phil Vilipiano tackled Russ Francis before the ball got there and no interference was called. That game is why I laugh when Raider fans whine about the Tuck Rule.

[@Saltydog12]

I bet the uploaded doesn’t respond to this comment

[@nuffsaid783]

Where can we watch the whole game, original play by play broadcast ?

[@coolguy02536]

Good upload, spreading awareness 👌

[@napoleonbonaparte1260]

Bill burr brought me here.

[@fishtrout9424]

Oilers fan here, neutral. It was roughing the passer.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

And Mike Renfro didn't catch the ball

[@jackprecip5389]

Not in 1976 it wasn't.

[@thedagothexperience]

As a Raider fan I can say it was definitely a BAD call... but the Raiders would have had another down & you could never count out the Snake!

[@Arcturus97]

The Raiders got the call in this game, but the next year in the AFC Championship game against Denver, ( the late) Rob Lytle of the Broncos clearly fumbled before scoring a touchdown, possibly denying the Raiders another Super Bowl trip. I don't think there are conspiracies, NFL refs often struggle to officiate a game that is hard to officiate. That's why we have replay, to bail them out.

[@Rockhound6165]

Lytle never scored in that game. The officials ruled the play dead.

[@ricktheitalianrebel6687]

The raiders should have been one and done in 76. In 77, the difference is that the call came in the third quarter. There is NO way you can say Lytle's fumble gave Denver the game. But in THIS game, it definitely game Oakland the game, because of when it happened..at game's end. THe 77 raiders would have suffered the same fate as Denver.....getting crushed by Dallas. The 77 Cowboys were devastating...especially on defense. Stabler would have had the ball shoved up his ass by Harvey Martin.

[@MarkGagliardi-wk2pk]

Generally, I do not believe that one bad call can cause a team to lose unless it is on the last play of the game. There's is often a lot of football before and after the controversial play. The Pats lost because they could not close out the clock on their last possession. Before the Raiders' last possession, the Pats had a 3rd and inches on the Raiders' 27 with 2.5 minutes left. The Pats committed a false start and then they could not convert on 3rd and 5 (incomplete pass to Francis). The Pats missed a 50-yard FG on the next play. Had the Pats converted, they could have either run out the clock, attempted a shorter FG or left the Raiders with not enough time to go the length of the field. Also, the controversial play happened on 3rd and 18, so they still had a chance to convert on 4th and 18. Who knows what would have happened? This is similar to the David Tyree catch. People forget it happened on 3rd and 5.

[@atommy4625]

It's not like the play was 4th down and the Patriots would have taken over on downs. It was only 3rd down, even if the refs didn't call roughing the passer against Sugarbear Hamilton it would have been 4th and 18, not an impossible scenario for the Raiders to pick up a 1st down or find the end zone the next play

[@dantheman5745]

2:02 BTW, whatever you think of the Raiders from the 70's, you've just gotta love Phil Villapiano.

[@Rockhound6165]

He and Conrad Dobler were best buds. Can you imagine those bar bills?

[@nickjames5975]

Even today that isn’t a penalty, which says a lot

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

Today they probably would throw the flag, but that wasn’t a flag in 1976...

[@ToppsBaseballRacks]

Definitely a penalty today~blow to the head~but not back then in most cases.

[@dp_upperscore8119]

Got over the tuck rule after seeing that bs call😂I guess we owed you one

[@Brimstone-sg9pt]

All the years the Raiders had been screwed by bad calls, this call for the Raiders against the Patriots was a make-up call.

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

The 1978 Patriots were also a good team, but there was so much drama between ownership and coaching that they lost at home to the Oilers in the first round

[@ericradford2142]

At least Ben Dreith wasn’t blamed.

[@CoffeeStain-Music]

You can say the Tuck Rule was revenge, but that rule, as controversial as it was, was properly called so the Raiders technically weren't screwed. This "roughing" call was nothing in the 70's and even today it would be cheap. You didn't routinely see soft roughing calls like this until like 2006 and on. I guess it all worked out though when you compare Patriot history since the Tuck to Raider history since then.

[@ricktheitalianrebel6687]

Properly? The Tuck rule was a total opinion call. The Ref feels" that the QB is tucking the ball. The original call on the field was a fumble, and no way is a blinding snowstorm in the night can you have enough evidence to overturn that call. TO me, it looks like Brady was getting ready to rin. That makes him a runner, and fair game. There is a difference in the way the ball will bounce out of a QBs hand when attempting to pass or a straight fumble. That was a fumble. even the announcers thought it was and were shocked by the change in call.

[@ravens52raylewis87]

@@ricktheitalianrebel6687 As a Ravens fan all I have to say about the Tuck Rule is that people need to get over it honestly you know why? Because not only had that call been used earlier that season when the Patriots played the Jets when Vinny Testaverde had gotten the same call but it had also been used since 1999 almost two years before that Patriots vs Raiders playoff game was in existence. That's not the only thing either. During that game after the officials had made that call the Raiders had opportunities to put that game away in their favor. They could have blocked Adam Vinatieri's field goal, and they could have stopped the Patriots offense in overtime the Raiders defense had them on 4th down and still didn't get a stop in OT the Raiders had their chances and they didn't seal the game. So you tell me who's really to blame here? The officials or the Raiders ineptitude to take advantage of an easy situation right in front of their faces?

[@jameshutchinson568]

Give me a break regarding the technicality of the "tuck rule". Yes, the Raiders did get screwed in that 2001 playoff game. It was a fumble by any logical measure, it doesn't matter what the stupid tuck rule states. The play didn't pass the "common sense" test when watching the it live -- it was an obvious fumble.

[@Gunner192]

@@jameshutchinson568 Maybe by any logical measure, but not by NFL rule. I'd agree the rule didn't pass "common sense" but the NFL didn't change it for another ten years.

[@igluver15]

"Cheap???"......Sugarbear almost decapitated Stabler by purposely targeting Stabler's head. That was one of the hardest hits to the head I've ever seen! Good call.....stop crying.....Brady whined if a finger nail scratched his helmet. In today's NFL (2022), Sugarbear would have been ejected for trying to murder Stabler. I replayed the Sugarbear hit to Stabler 100's of times now.......it was assault in today's NFL, not a soft hit. get outta here

[@RedElephantStampede]

I love the Snake, but this call was BUNK!

[@GeorgeFitness-yo8bl]

It was absolutely a penalty. John Madden said it many times

[@baddogboxster]

Bahahahaha. Irony much? I met John Madden once, and he was a really nice dude. However, if that flag doesn't get thrown, and the Patriots get the ball back and win the game, John Madden doesn't win his one Super Bowl as an NFL Head Coach. John Madden is the opposite of a neutral disinterested third party in this discussion.

[@GeorgeFitness-yo8bl]

@@baddogboxster Has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he hit his head and it was a blatant penalty

[@baddogboxster]

@@GeorgeFitness-yo8bl No, in 1976 it wasn't. They didn't know about CTE back then, or didn't care, and "concussion protocol" consisted of smelling salts and get back in the game.

[@NimdaChayse]

lol, it was the divisional round. How did NFL films get that so fucking wrong?💀💀

[@thebostonsportsreport9584]

Let's Go Patriots Fans #Gopats Six time Super Bowl Champion

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

As a Raider fan I agree this call was at the very least questionable. Maybe illegal in the most strict interpretation of the rules, yes in 2019 it would be called every time, but in 1976 this kind of hit was rarely called. Having said that, if you watch the entire game, the Patriots had several chances to put the Raiders away and didn't. They also had a chance to stop the Raiders after this call, and didn't. So it's really hard to say this one play gave the Raiders the win.

[@stephenhanft1226]

It has never been legal to hit the quarterback in the head. It was the correct call.

[@josephcoleman57]

As it was in the "snow bowl " The Raider failed to stop the Pats on at least two 3rd and longs while failing to pick up a 3rd a short a couple times if l remember correctly

[@vichedges8858]

@@josephcoleman57 85 Patriots. Favorite NE team ever

[@frankdenardo8684]

The New England Patriots play in Foxxborough Massachusetts.

[@MrBeyondbelief]

Yes and Massachusetts is one of the 6 NEW ENGLAND STATES! Akthough Connecticut sometimes gets kooped in with New York and New Jersey. Tri state area

[@jasonlejuan975]

Tuck Rule was good karma then.😂

[@Saltydog12]

Except the series before this call the pats running back stepped out of bounds a yard short of the first down without a single Raider in the area and had to punt. If he runs out past the first down marker they kneel on the ball and run out the clock

[@seansartor]

That 76 team was AWESOME and fun to watch ! They would have killed the Vikings !!!

[@peterstanghellini393]

I have always been a big pats fan. The 76 team was perhaps the most dominant team I’ve ever seen. The defense would punish the opposing team. Mike Haynes, Tim Fox, I think #54 was Nelson, very good pass rush. Grogan was the toughest quarterback I ever saw. If he threw a interception he would be the first one to tackle the dude.

[@scottmitchell3641]

Saturday December 18, 1976 New England Patriots 28 Oakland Raiders 17 Sunday December 26, 1976 AFC Championship in Pittsburgh, Pa: New England Patriots 24 Pittsburgh Steelers 13 Sunday January 9, 1977 Super Bowl XI in Pasadena, Ca: New England Patriots 27 Minnesota Vikings 10

[@marksantucci4230]

@@scottmitchell3641 guess you can't get over we beat you in our stadium 24-21 but you won a game that the referee made a bad call on that you needed replay that proves were better than your team?

[@SuperClanceman]

@@marksantucci4230 According to the rules at the time, overturning Brady's fumble was the right call. The Patriots got burned with it earlier that year against the Jets. In 1976, hitting the QB was commonplace and what Hamilton did was not even close to a roughing the passer penalty. It was a joke at the time and NFL network ranks it #7 all time.

[@marksantucci4230]

@@SuperClanceman I've seen that play 7 million times and Woodson clearly knocked the ball out of Brady's hand? are you a patriots fan or Raiders fan? Gannon was the better quarterback that day. some questions who do you think is better all around team better superbowl record the Steelers who are 6-2 have been to less superbowls but have the same amount of wins as the 6-5 pats? from the smaller teams less than 5 appearances the Jets or the Eagles? the Jets are undefeated 1-0 but have only been there one time while the Eagles have been there 3 times but have 2 loses Jets 1-0 Eagles 1-2 I can understand if it was Green bay which has more loses than the Jets but more wins this I can understand 4-1. but who do you think is better Jets or Eagles? My Dad thinks his team is the all time greatest the pats I keep trying to explain your team has 5 losses if they were 9-2 then that's a different situation but there not they have the most loses 5 and the only team to go undefeated in regular season and loose in super bowl? I asked him about the Ravens who are 2-0 or the Eagles he says the Eagles are better who are 1-2 what do you think? which position would you rather be in 6-5 or 6-2 ? owing the pats or the Steelers? which position would you rather be in owning the Jets and being 1-0 or owning the Eagles and being 1-2? same being in Baltimore owning the Ravens being 2-0 or only 1 win but 3 appearances and head of Eagles 1-2?

[@TeslaVee]

Can somebody get a copy of this entire game? Or did Al Davis, while on his death bed, order every copy in the world be burned so as to never be seen again?

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

We're even now from 2001 snow game raiders playoffs that's the first thing that came to my head when that game was over okay now we're even

[@stephensoldner]

lmao can we talk about how the beginning of this video says 'A PATSFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES' when this video is a clip from NFL Films' 'NFL Top 10' show that airs on the NFL Network, only it's worse quality and zoomed in? haha.

[@GreenDiamond70]

Home Town Call !!!

[@stephenhanft1226]

Nope. The correct call.

[@dacosta0656]

Karma's a bitch , right L.A., I mean Oakland, ii mean Las Vegas? Wherever Tom Brady is the Goat

[@marksantucci4230]

@@dacosta0656 Montana's the Goat ?

[@tomryugo5742]

The Patriots lost their cool after that play. Oakland gained 9 yards on the next two plays. It was 3rd and 1 at the 5 yard line when Pete Banazak burrowed into the line for a one yard gain. It needed a measurement - that never came. One of the Patriots got mad at the spot, yelled too loudly at Ben Dreith, and got flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. No doubt, the fact that the Patriots coaches were screaming at Dreith nonstop influenced him to throw that flag. So it was 1st and goal at the two. Plus the clock stopped. Raiders scored with 10 seconds left.

[@xaviervega468]

Dreith was also never allowed to ref in Foxborough again.

[@chaosawaits]

So the fix was in

[@oneandahalfrailfanners8719]

Drieth did officiate a game in Foxboro, but not until 12 years later. Bucs Patriots 10-7 OT win for the Pats.

[@josecarranza7555]

It was the right call. The defender went on upper body of the QB.

[@clintfowler1526]

And the tuck rule was an incomplete pass by the rules of 2001

[@josecarranza7555]

@@clintfowler1526 According to the rules.

[@clintfowler1526]

@@josecarranza7555 that’s my point. The rules said it was roughing the passer just like it said the tuck rule was an incomplete pass

[@josecarranza7555]

@@clintfowler1526 I know. So technically no one got screwed lol Just 2 very controversial calls that according to the rules, they were the right calls.

[@mjp96]

What's the controversy? He. Hit. Him. In. The. Head.

[@joshlight6892]

I've often wondered how you can ever feel good about winning on a BS call, deep down it has to take something away from the win. Of course there is always a chance the Raiders would have converted the 4th and 18, after all Stabler had a great deep ball. But its unlikely.

[@stephaniegormley9982]

Exactly. Without the 'roughing the passer' on Hamilton, the Pats had a 95% chance of winning. But without the 'Tuck Rule' the Raiders win, PERIOD.

[@johnbuckley1923]

Every RATIONAL Pats Fan knows it was a fumble...stupid rule BUT... Look at what Brady did AFTER the call...insane

[@stephen240]

Here because of Bill Burr on Manning Night Football

[@kyledamron]

We don't talk about it because we are fine with the call. And if Madden said it was the right call its good enough for me

[@joshlight6892]

I liked John Madden as much as anybody, but given the fact that he was the opposing head coach he can hardly be considered an objective voice in this case.

[@reston81]

Awful call pats had em beat. Tuck rule poetic justice

[@kyledamron]

The Pats had the rest of that drive to stop the Raiders they didn't not even stopping Stabler's run, a man with no knees

[@jackprecip5389]

They stuffed the Raiders running backs twice inside the 5 yard line for short gains, and then Dreith (the one who threw the flag on Hamilton for roughing the passer) threw another flag on the Patriots for unsportsman like conduct that put the ball on the 2 yard line instead of the 4, and Stabler would have never called a bootleg on the 4 yard line. The Roughing the Passer put the ball on the Pats 13 yard line, you make it sound like they let them go another 50 yards to score.

[@Victor-cr5rr]

Easy call he went to head late

[@johnjmartin5156]

Well I wish that Sugarbear could get into the HOF while he's still alive for a decades-long career as an excellent defensive line coach, developing top-tier pass rushers even on bad teams. At the very least his Wikipedia page alludes to it.

[@seangoodwin3046]

Ben Dreith has made this call his whole career. Anyone near the head and his flag comes out. If Fairbanks did not warn them of this, that is his fault. The call the Pats fans have a serious gripe about in this game was earlier when the Pats had the ball on the Oakland 32 on a 3rd and 5. Francis draws Villapiano on single man coverage, so Phil does the only thing he can do under the circumstances - puts Russ in a hammer lock in the middle of the field right in front of the field judge (he was maybe five yards away. He nearly tripped over Russ after Phil tossed him) and prays he doesn't get a call. Prayer answered. Even the Mutual announcers conceded it was a bad miss. If the ref makes the right call there, Oakland never gets the ball back and the game is over. Sometimes when the Roughing call is shown, shots of Grogan and Francis swearing are cut in afterwards. They were not swearing about the Roughing call. They were swearing about this call.

[@edwardmartinez3323]

As a Raider fan that was a BS call during that era of football The Patriots got screwed.

[@edwards.6857]

And then Brady fumbled the ball. How sweet it was !

[@dp233332]

@@edwards.6857 a 3pt win on a BS call to help them get the 1st playoff win of their 1st SB run...what goes around comes around...walt coleman shoulda called Woodson for hitting Brady in the face, if you bother to look closely that what Woodson did before knocking the ball loose on the tuck play kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYmWpmVvpstsqZo

[@TheSatelliteCowboy]

@@dp233332 looked like Woodson should have been flagged for roughing the passer-how ironic

[@vichedges8858]

@@TheSatelliteCowboy that's not irony

[@TheSatelliteCowboy]

@@vichedges8858 yes it is

[@IntoTheVoid96]

I never thought I'd feel bad for the Patriots. They got screwed.

[@redmustangredmustang]

Sugarbear hit him in the bead right at 1:18. I mean that's a penalty no doubt. Yeah it wasn't called that much back then but it was still a penalty. The Patriots still had a chance to stop the Raiders and they didn't do that.

[@clintfowler1526]

Keep that same energy with the tuck rule. Incomplete pass by 2001 rules, the raiders still had a chance to stop them and didn’t

[@jameshutchinson568]

I have no dog in this fight, but I feel bad for Patriots fans regarding this playoff game. They really got screwed on that pass interfence call. Considering that the Patriots beat the Raiders earlier that season pretty badly and they also beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, you could definitely make the case that the Patriots were the best team in the league during the 1976 season.

[@s.l.nicholson4240]

Too bad.

[@fockewulf4409]

There should have been a pass interference call against the Patriots on that play anyway. Raiders were screwed in the 69 Championship when Otis Taylor stepped out but they said he was in, 72 there was the Immaculate Reception, 74 Championship there was a terrible offensive tripping call and the only one of it's kind called all season, in the 77 AFC Championship Lytle fumbled the ball and it changed the course of that game. So don't tell Raiders about getting screwed.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

If that's the case let's acknowledge the same thing happened in the AFC title game at Arrowhead when Brady got grazed on the helmet, but Edelman was clearly held on it.

[@23comoMike]

Im not see nothing controversial, he hit in the mask to Stabler.. Can be strict but is Roughingh the passer clearly

[@RedElephantStampede]

It’s a shame that the 76 Steelers didn’t go again to the SB. That defense was maybe the best certainly in the 70’s. But when you lose Rocky and Franco for the championship game, well, happens to every team I guess.

[@vichedges8858]

Wasnt good enough

[@Biggdoom344]

Also lost Fuqua who played hurt but was ineffective. Probably the toughest loss of my lifetime when the Steelers lost in Oakland that day.

[@hardwaylearner]

And then 25 years later the Patriots get even in the Snow Bowl

[@igluver15]

Try nine years later when the Pats upset the Los Angeles Raiders at the LA Coliseum in the divisional rnd.....but of course, Pats fans won't recognize THAT game as the revenge b/c they earned the right to look stupid in the sb to the CHI Bears.

[@timothygregory7719]

Get you some........

[@imsljr420]

how would a Raiders' fan talk about this if they don't even know about it? and I'm sure the ones that saw it are either dead or are so old they lost their memory and have forgotten.

[@amypeterson4615]

They also bombed the Steelers that year too.

[@marquise7200]

After seeing this I no longer hate the pats we got over on them first lol

[@josephcoleman57]

Kudos to an honest fan of the game

[@pulsarlights2825]

Patriots sucked in the 70s, had they won this game Pittsburgh would have beaten them the next week. After Miami 's dynasty ended the Colts were the best team in that division...

[@nvmfirezactaylor6035]

Even with all the rules nowadays protecting quarterbacks, that's still a dumbass call

[@countz7723]

The Tuck Rule was the single Greatest moment that ever happened for the Patriots. It set the makings of a Dynasty in motion that still rules today and completely destroyed the Raiders organization that still sucks today. Payback for Sugar Ray, The Greatness of The Patriots.

[@josephcoleman57]

The amazing thing about the Snowbowl game (we don't call it the Tuck rule game) is that The Raiders cry like that was the end of the game and it was just handed to the Pats. No.. The Raiders got the ball back and had they gotten a first down or two they could have won with a FG. but the Pats held then on 2nd and two and 3rd and two.. They punted and the Pats drove all the way up the field.and got a first down on 4th and 4 and another on 3rd and 5 The Raiders and their fans cry when all they had to do is make a stop or get a first down That shouldn't be so hard for the Raiders .Right? Weren't they the better team? Guess not

[@jomic9060]

@@josephcoleman57 so what the engine was taking out of the car, just get the car there. i dont wanna hear y u cant get the car there. get the care there!

[@stephenhanft1226]

It started the most dishonest, cheating dynasty in the history of sports. The tuck rule was total B.S. Meanwhile, back in 1976, Hamilton committed a bonehead roughing the penalty by hitting Stabler in the head with his forearm.

[@aspenrebel]

@ Count Z YES!!!

[@chandlersbryant4047]

@@stephenhanft1226 Get over it and stop crying about the Correct call... Raiders got the ball back afterwards and still couldnt do shit

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

Where’s the link for all ten please?

[@eccl.1184]

The conspiratorial corruption of fixed games in the NFL and refs paid to throw and fix games goes back a loooooong way. Thank goodness I don’t watch this corrupt stuff anymore. The WWE is a lot more honest about the way it is done.

[@scottmitchell3641]

Jack Tatum absolutely leveled Randy Vataha early in the 1st quarter. Also in the 1st quarter, George Atkinson smashed through the face mask of Russ Francis with a vicious and savage forearm shot, breaking the nose of the big tight end. Were the Raiders still angry at the Patriots for humiliating them by the astounding score of 48-17 in Foxboro back on Sunday October 3, 1976? Perhaps. It was the only loss Oakland suffered in their 13-1 1976 regular season. Now it was the first round of the playoffs. Saturday December 18, 1976. A rematch. In Oakland this time. And wouldn't ya know. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . With 5:27 left in the game New England leads 21-17 and has driven to a 3rd and less than a yard at the Raider 27. Steve Grogan executes a perfect quarterback sneak for a first down at the Raider 25. The drive continues. New England keeps the ball on the ground the rest of the way. They come at the Raiders with Sam Cunningham, Don Calhoun, Andy Johnson, even Grogan himself. They bleed the Raiders of all timeouts, the two minute warning, and most of the clock. Steady methodical runs of 3 yds, 4 yds, 3 yds, 6 yds, 2 yds, 3 yds, 4 yds. The whole time the Raiders know what's coming ...but they can't stop it no matter what they do. The Patriots keep pounding away until they are in the end zone. Touchdown. Only 33 seconds remain on the clock. The Patriots leave no doubt, no time, and no chance. They completely finish off the Raiders. Saturday December 18, 1976 New England Patriots 28 Oakland Raiders 17 at Oakland, Ca Sunday December 26, 1976 AFC Championship in Pittsburgh, Pa: New England Patriots 24 Pittsburgh Steelers 13 Sunday January 9, 1977 Super Bowl XI in Pasadena, Ca: New England Patriots 27 Minnesota Vikings 10 Super Bowl MVP Ray Hamilton New England a Super Bowl record 293 yards rushing..... Show less Reply

[@dennissaunders5247]

What a crock of shit. Ohhh boo hoo. Poor little bitch PATRIOTS.

[@vichedges8858]

Now write some fan fiction about how the patriots got screwed by the refs in superbowl 20. Couldn't be more far fetched

[@dennissaunders5247]

I love the 85 bears

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@@dennissaunders5247 Fuck off asshole.

[@Biggdoom344]

In the Steelers injury state after the colts game NE probably would have beat them in the AFCC game…however if the Steelers had stayed healthy, it’s three straight SBs. No way in hell was NE coming to Pittsburgh in January and beating the Steelers in three rivers. NE needed five turnovers to beat the Steelers by 3 earlier that season. The Steelers dynasty lost one home playoff game that era..to the 72 17-0 dolphins.

[@markwakeman8232]

I was lucky enough to have been at that game, and my buddy and I were already standing and screaming about the no-call for blatant pass interference in the End Zone. The NFL film, " A Crowning Glory ", which tracked the 76 Raiders through the entire season and Super Bowl ll , shows the interference as two Patriot defenders grabbed Clarence Davis by his jersey and pulled him out of bounds. We were as surprised as everybody else by the roughing the passer call. I can well understand the Patriot fans thinking they got shafted, but actually the Raiders should have been given the ball one the 1 yard line, 1st and goal. Sorryy, Pat fans, you had a great team that year, no doubt, but you didn't get screwed. If no flag had been thrown, then it would have been the Raiders who got rooked, sort of like the New Orleans Saints did against the Rams this year.

[@neneshubby]

Exactly! I was at that game as well and everybody was screaming about the no call pass interference on Clarence Davis. The roughing penalty came out of nowhere.

[@kidofflint8812]

Now I’m 14 years old and a raiders fan is my opinion sugar bear hamltion hit him late you can see it

[@spencerpearson3986]

Kid Of flint nah

[@jasonlejuan975]

And that's why tuck rule was karma.

[@MrBeyondbelief]

Ball was NOT CATCHABLE!

[@NYNYRaider]

The patridiots got a much, much bigger break in the snow 25 years later… And the ‘76 team wouldn’t have beaten Pittsburgh, whereas the Raiders had the playoff experience to do so.

[@TeslaVee]

Helps that Franco and Rocky, both 1000 yard rushers, were injured.

[@jackprecip5389]

Stop embarrassing yourself, the Pats already beat Pittsburgh earlier that year IN PITTSBURGH, and with no Franco or Blier for the AFC Title game, they would have had another very good chance to beat Pittsburgh again. Also, the Roughing The Passer was only one of three bad calls against the Pats in the last 5 minutes, as Villipiano mugged Russ Francis on a 3rd and 5 pass that would have given the Pats a first and 10 on the Raiders 27 with a 21-17 lead and only 4 minutes to go, and then Drieth also threw an Unsportsman like conduct penalty on the Pats to give the Raiders the ball on the Pats 2 yard line, where Stabler limped in on a bootleg. Refs blew this game, just like they blew the Tuck Rule game, and plenty of others.

[@NYNYRaider]

@@jackprecip5389 I didn’t embarrass myself at all. These are words on a screen. But clearly they were enough to get you riled up 😂😂

[@jackprecip5389]

@@NYNYRaider Anybody who has a Kenny G video as suggested viewing lives in a constant state of embarrassment, they're just too far gone to realize it.

[@NYNYRaider]

@@jackprecip5389 it’s called channel traffic, Mr. Narrow Minded Retrogressive Patridiot Fan still mad about a game from 48 years ago 😂😂 Go GIANTS!! I live in Thailand. Proud of it. Kenny played at my city’s main beach. I shot that song because millions of people all over Asia love it. The channel traffic indicates that.

[@dacosta0656]

There's your tuck rule

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Absolutely. It took 26 years to make up for that call. To this day I still believe the NFL didn’t want pirates being the prevailing mascot on the world stage in the season of 9/11. Having Patriots representing the nation at the time seemed almost too good to be true. 😀

[@liammonaghan4785]

@@r.williamcomm7693 fax

[@timwoods3171]

@@r.williamcomm7693 Great point, I agree, there's no way the NFL post 9/11 was not going to allow a team named the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. It wasn't only the Tuck Rule -- watch the Patriots' body language, they know it's a legit fumble and that they've lost the football -- but also in the Super Bowl itself, where you had not only Spygate leading up but a mugging of the Rams' speed weapons and Warner just often enough.

[@r.williamcomm7693]

@Tim Woods Yes Pats defenders were very physical w/receivers which was a huge disadvantage for the Rams with their high precision passing game. The NFL despised Al Davis, maybe justifiably at times, so I’m sure it was sheer coincidence that when they did get to the Super Bowl the next season, it was against their former coach who designed their offense. Here we are in 2021 & by sheer coincidence the first time a home team gets to play a Super Bowl in it’s home stadium just happens to during a global pandemic. The NFC title game was another example of letting DBs mug WRs where it hurts one team much more than the other. I’m mot saying it’s rigged, just that they can make it more difficult for one team to prevail. Of course this game will be the passing of the torch just like the young star Namath beating the old guard Colts. The NFL is getting scared about TV contract revenues because that $8 billion is their biggest single source of revenue & viewership in the regular season dropped 7%.

[@timwoods3171]

@@r.williamcomm7693 Good dialogue with you! I'll go out on a limb for SB54 and say it's more important to the NFL that Brady, the ageless warrior, wins a 7th SB ring. It will figure that Mahomes, even though he's the Next Face of the NFL (along with Jake from State Farm), will have many more chances, being so young. It'll be an interesting watch -- perhaps more because the Bradycaneers really won't have much of a home-field advantage with 30K fans in Raymond James Stadium. KC (AFC championship game, 2018) knows what happens if you don't defend against Brady for 60 full minutes, so it had better be ready to bring the heat all game long with no sitting back.

[@sheldonquarles5171]

Would be roughing the passer 100 times out of 100 in today's NFL. Clearly hit him in the head.

[@vincentmesa7024]

Hamilton clubbed Stabler on the side of the head. That penalty is called about half the time. It was not that big a controversy.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

1st quarter is one thing. Not a Postseason game that's on the line in the 4th.

[@randyhanson4973]

Okay so what if they don’t call roughing the passer? It would have been 3rd-18 giving Stabler 2 downs to get the 1st Down & we all damn well know that Stabler would have gotten the yardage back & the Raiders would’ve have won. The greatest clutch QB in NFL history wasn’t going to be denied. Oakland almost got caught looking ahead but they were just too good to lose to NE

[@stephaniegormley9982]

Actually without the 'roughing the passer' it would have been 4th and 18. But as you said that Raider offense was great and they may have pulled of a miracle. But no one can say they definitely would have won.

[@sar_annihilator956]

would have been 4th-18

[@scotters201]

It proboly wasnt called back them much..but today it would be a penalty every time..he got clubbed/hit in the head.

[@neneshubby]

Even if the Patriots did get screwed here its ONE time. The Raiders have been done wrong by refs again and again and again. The Immaculate Deception, the missed Rob Lytle fumble in the 77 championship game, the bogus pass interference in the 70 AFL title game vs the chiefs, the tuck rule. Speaking of the tuck rule game, the only reason the Raiders ended up playing in New England that year is because of a game lost in Denver when the refs nullified a go ahead 75 yard TD to Jerry RIce with 3:00 to go on a bogus tripping penalty on lineman Frank Middleton. The Raiders lost 23-17. The NFL apologized for the call during the week.

[@baddogboxster]

Well, the Raiders had Al Davis for an owner. He's been involved in lawsuits with his ownership partners, the NFL, the towns his team played in, you name it. If Al Davis slipped on the steps and fell coming out of a Synagogue on a Saturday, on Monday his lawyers would be in court suing the Rabbis who ran the place. That sort of thing tends to create enmity. For all you Raider fans still smarting about the Tuck Rule, this Patriot fan will tell you the Truth. That Tuck Rule call was nothing more than NFL Officials digging into the rule book as deep as they needed to find a way the screw Al Davis.

[@balrog322]

Caption should read “The playoff game Patriot fans and players never stop whining about.” The call would have been far more ‘controversial’ if it Hadn’t been made-it’s incontestable that Hamilton made contact with Stabler’s face mask, hence the penalty and automatic first down. The Patriots proceeded to collapse, so the better team won.

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

Then why don’t Raider fans seem to remember that the game was still 13-10 Raiders when the tuck rule occurred? Vinatieri still had to kick a 45 yd FG in a blizzard to go to OT! Play some defense Raiders!

[@notoriouseagle1074]

You're comment should read "I'm an idiot that doesn't seem to understand that there are calls that have wide ranging impact in games and I lack the ability to think critically and on my feet." Get the fuck out of here, the best team lost this game.

[@jasonlejuan975]

And raiders fans never stop crying about the tuck rule.

[@balrog322]

@@jasonlejuan975 My only gripe watching the tuck rule game at the time was, in 35+ years of viewing & attending NFL football games, I’d never seen such a play or heard of a rule governing it. It was a big call to be sure and some Raider fans still piss & moan about it, but no game is won or lost on an official’s call. The better team won each of these infamous games.

[@shigsho]

NE got screwed but mistakes are a part of football. As someone else has mentioned Russ Francis was the victim of a huge PI non call so it was the Raiders day to catch the big breaks.

[@TDL-xg5nn]

A forearm to the head of a QB is clearly a penalty. End of discussion.

[@Rockhound6165]

In today's "look cross eyed at a QB and get flagged" era, yes. Back then? No.

[@bowlert]

His arm was extended to block the pass. There wasn't a forearm to the head.

[@TDL-xg5nn]

@@bowlert It doesn't matter why he put his arm up his forearm clearly impacted his head. That is a penalty.

[@PFM719]

@@TDL-xg5nn not in 76 lmao

[@marksantucci4230]

Oakland Raiders 24 New England Patriots 21 that year the Yankees got to the world series Boston didn't make it Montreal beat the Flyers 4-0 where were the Bruins?

[@josephcoleman57]

ur right the Sox didnt make it to the series in 01 They waited til 04 and where were the Yankees? oh yeah they blew a 3 game lead in the ALCS

[@marksantucci4230]

@@josephcoleman57 So who ever you root for Hopefully Oakland) but whoever you root for did your office do anything for superbowl January 31st? were you allowed to wear any jersey's or team shirts if yes what did you wear to the office? are you putting away any Football merchandise like Jersey's, tee shirts, sweatshirts, hoodies, socks, coffee mugs Tervis tumblers, hats any Football merchandise?

[@1990Thunderbolt]

@@marksantucci4230 so umm what does this have to do with the red sox and bruins? btw funny you didn't mention the celtics cause they won the nba finals in 1976 lol

[@marksantucci4230]

@@josephcoleman57 when you have 27 championships nobody cares that you blew a 3-0 lead? it's like if a team wins 20 division titles 6 superbowls ( only 1 was against a good team) and then 1 year that team goes 7-9 nobody talks about that one season?

[@marksantucci4230]

@@1990Thunderbolt if you know anything about sports you know Boston Bruins rival Montreal and the Red Sox rival the Yankees? Boston fans have big mouths?

[@Jestin612]

I really don't like the pats but that was some bs.

[@dusa1394]

Crybaby raider fans about to tuck rule FU it was payback

[@bplup6419]

Clubbing the QB in the head is questionable? Pats fans clutching for straws while they got an arm full of trophies.

[@toscodav]

IN the 70's, that was never called.

[@bowlert]

"Clubbing the QB in the head"? You need to watch again. He had his arm extended.

[@Biggdoom344]

Best team in the league? This NE team didn’t even win their division…the colts did. They did deserve to win this day but the moment got too big for them the last three minutes. Poor execution, penalties and lack of composure doomed them. However, I’m convinced the NFL wanted Steelers v raiders for the AFCC game..must see tv then. However the football gods sorted it out. The raiders got cheated the next year in Denver and NE has gotten the benefit of just about every close call since 2001 starting with the tuck rule bs.

[@bisp2581]

so the reffing sucked in the70's to. .it is wat it is

[@charlestelk6526]

Not a brutal hit to the head - but my knowledge of the rules is that a shot to the head of the QB in 1976 was considered roughing the QB. End of story. And that play wasn't called on 4th down - without the penalty it would have been 4th and 18. WIth the greatest NFL team of all times offense on the field certainly not an impossible conversion.

[@igluver15]

Watched the hit over and over...........just stop the BS....Sugarbear TARGETED Stabler's head with force. Good call.....put your coke bottle bottom glasses on and watch the hit over and over. Stop whining Pat's fans....you cried when Brady got tickled when he was a Pat

[@notoriouseagle1074]

No we will not, her barely taps him. If that's roughing, then so was the Brady play at Arrowhead.

[@sashacougar]

Put Stabler in a dress.

[@jrrubio86]

Lol so his hit to the head of the qb is controversial

[@toscodav]

Yes. The Raiders were notorious head hunters and they were never called for it. They didn't have rules to protect the QB in the '70's like they do now.

[@my2centsiz3]

The NFL officiating is horrible, it always has been. It changes flow, tempo. who can watch a game now, or ever. A big play happen, and you cant get excited about it until you hear? There are no flags. Basketball during the Jordan ERA was real bad. You couldnt guard him. Phantom call after phantom call. Football officiating sux, Baseball they miss so many calls finally have replay. It just sux. Game killers.

[@radar0412]

Some QB's in the 70's you could hit in the mouth and get away with it. Kenny Stabler just wasn't one of them. FIRST DOWN MUTHA FUCKERS!!! LOL..

[@josephcoleman57]

oh and lets not forget about the holy roller another questionable Raiders play... Not even questionable The Snake admits he fumbled on purpose

[@radar0412]

@@josephcoleman57 True Raider Fans are embarrassed by The Holy Roller play. Not exactly Ghost to the Post, or Sea of Hands.

[@ajaded1]

Apparently, neither is Tom Brady. Oh, that was a fumble? GUESS AGAIN MUTHA FUCKERS!!! LOL.

[@gloriaarroyo7045]

But he clearly hit him in the head wtf

[@josephloudon2346]

Not a penalty in the 1970s.

[@mrtnt3462]

@@josephloudon2346 WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, IF IT WASN'T AN OFFICIAL RULE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CALLED IT, WHETHER YOU MORONS AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.

[@jomic9060]

no no no. in his bedroom, its a rule. a rule that everyone knows. when in front of his playoff mirror getting dressed, Hamilton must use his forearm to tuck his yellow shirt in. or else sugarbears wife will make it laundry n throw it on the floor. GEEZ! Hamilton n everybody else knows this playoff ettiquette. otherwise that years Hamiltion team will stay home from the big dance and not go. i thought everyone knew this.

[@georgetoplenszky7062]

Hamilton clearly hits Stabler in the head. Just look at the replay,And also Stabler did not drop to the ground to embellish it holding his head. It was a clearly a referee call.

[@xaviervega468]

Once again, that was NOT illegal in 1978. The only legit roughing calls were late hits and REALLY egregious stuff like Turkey Jones suplexing Terry Bradshaw.

[@shigsho]

George, You are judging it by TODAY'S rule. Back then it wasn't roughing the passer.

[@stephenhanft1226]

@@shigsho Yes it was. It has NEVER been legal to hit the quarterback in the head. You are judging as a biased Patriots fan and not an honest football fan.

[@stephenhanft1226]

@@xaviervega468 Yes it WAS legal back then. It has NEVER been legal to hit the quarterback in the head.

[@stephenhanft1226]

George Toplenszky Thank you for your honesty. Patriots fans have consistently lied about this play for over 40 years.

[@sashacougar]

Put him in a dress. Bogus call.

[@scottmitchell3641]

The 1976 Oakland Raiders looked magnificent as they beat the Minnesota Vikings to win Super Bowl 11, two weeks after dominating the defending world champion Steelers in the AFC Championship. But should the Raiders have even been in that Super Bowl? In week four of the 1976 regular season they went into Foxborough and the New England Patriots demolished them 48-17. New England scored seven touchdowns and rolled up 468 yards of total offense, including a staggering 296 yards rushing. 296 !!! That is preposterous. When the Patriots and Raiders met again in the playoffs, this time in Oakland, New England again outplayed the Raiders, though not nearly in such a dominant fashion as before. But the Patriots did outplay them, for the second time. In the playoffs, and with home field advantage, the Raiders fought the Patriots with all of their might, with every ounce of their strength. And yet, it was not quite enough. The Raiders were a beaten team, again. Despite their tremendous effort, the Raiders were coming up a little bit short and could not have won the playoff game on just their own strength alone. Even hitting New England with everything they had, the Raiders still needed help from both the officials and the Patriots themselves just to barely eek out a "win". Barely. Even with all that help (especially from referee Ben Dreith), the Raiders still almost lost. Without the help, forget it. Raiders lose for sure. End of story.

[@marksantucci4230]

tell me with about a minute and a half left and a third down and something did brady get the ball knocked out of his hands by Woodson? to me doesn't sound like Brady threw a touch down that game belonged to us? go Raiders.

[@vichedges8858]

why?

[@scottmitchell3641]

@@vichedges8858 Because the 1976 New England Patriots were better than the 1976 Oakland Raiders. Two head to head matchups that year proved it. In those two games, the 1976 Oakland Raiders proved that they could not beat the 1976 New England Patriots on their own. Unless they received help from somewhere else, the Raiders would lose. The just were not quite good enough to do it entirely on their own. I still cannot get over how the Raiders defense that year let the Patriots steamroll them for a ridiculous 296 yards rushing in the Patriots 48-17 victory in Foxborough. 48-17 !! The Patriots manhandled them in that game. In the rematch out in Oakland in the playoffs, why were the Raiders not able to manhandle the Patriots in return?

[@vichedges8858]

@@scottmitchell3641 they played them in the middle of a five game road trip. Believe what you want. You honestly think they were better? The roughing penalty was on a third down. They went 13 and 1 with a five game road trip! Beat the steelers twice.

[@scottmitchell3641]

@@vichedges8858 I appreciate all your responses, even the response to when I wrote all that (admitted) fan fiction where the 1976 Patriots beat the Raiders in the playoff game and continued on until they won Super Bowl 11. In this particular response here, you make a lot of very good points. The roughing penalty was indeed on a third down. If the roughing penalty is not called then third down would have been ruled as an incomplete pass. That still leaves 4th and 18 for the Raiders. Long odds, no doubt. Very, very long odds. But Ken Stabler did, in fact, convert a critical 4th and 10 late in the game against non other than the Steel Curtain of the back to back defending world champions in the tremendous 31-28 comeback victory in the season opener against Pittsburgh. Mean Joe Greene had taken dead aim at Kenny and had him for a certain sack on that 4th down, but somehow Kenny ducked out of it and completed the pass. So who knows? 4th and 18 against New England? The Raiders just might have pulled it off. As for the five game road trip, you are correct again. A five game road trip. Five!! Amazing. For some reason, the Raiders were beginning seasons all through the 1970s with tons of road games. Tons of them. I'm not sure any other NFL team was doing this to the extent the Raiders were. There were five game road trips at least twice. Multiple times there were four and three game road trips. I guess it was because of the Oakland A's. They shared that stadium apparently. I don't remember Al Davis making any kind of fuss about playing so many road games very early in the seasons all those years, though. He probably took it as a matter of pride and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he just flat out volunteered to have the Raiders take all those road games as an easy fix to any potential stadium schedule conflicts with the A's. Overall, the Raiders performed very well in those adverse road schedule conditions ---far better than any other NFL team back then. The 48-17 loss to the Patriots was right in the middle of that amazing five straight road games run, just like you said. Still, don't let someone run all over you to the tune of 296 yards team rushing. As you mentioned, the 1976 Raiders beat the Steelers twice. In the AFC Championship game, in particular, the Raiders dominated the Steelers and left no doubt they were the better team. No argument there. The 1976 Patriots-Raiders divisional playoff may have been the "real Super Bowl" that year. These may have been the two best teams in the NFL in 1976. The 1976 Dallas Cowboys and Los Angeles Rams were also very very good. But Minnesota was no match for Oakland. A much better Super Bowl 11 would have been Oakland Raiders versus Dallas Cowboys. Stabler and Staubach. Madden and Landry. Sadly, this was the one great Super Bowl matchup of the 1970s we never got to see. Almost as bad is not being able to watch that 1976 Patriots-Raiders divisional playoff game in its enitirety, from start to finish, every play, every detail, everything. Man would I love to be able to scrutinize that one. But no complete footage seems to exist. There is a full radio broadcast of the game on CD to be sure, also an NFL game of the week on it, and a smattering of bits and pieces of other highlights …….but that seems to be it. It's a real shame.

[@georgetoplenszky7062]

Hamilton clearly hit

[@shigsho]

QBs got hit all the time back then It was never called. How old are you? You don't know 60s-70s football.

[@stephenhanft1226]

@@shigsho The bottom line is that it has never been legal to hit the quarterback in the head. The call was correct

[@Ram-ch4sp]

Stephen everyone clearly knows it was a bad call

[@georgetoplenszky7062]

Hamilton

[@shigsho]

You don't know 60s-70s football. You know how everyone talks about the non call against the Saints vs the Rams. THIS was viewed the same way back then. Everybody knew it was a blown call. Even the Raiders would later joke about it.

[@stephenhanft1226]

@@shigsho Nope. It was the correct call. Hamilton hit Stabler in the head which has never been legal.

[@gregmorain8360]

Wow, what a crock. That you are still cryin' about it, I mean. I think the league has found a way to make it up to the pats in big games. Like letting them slide on what should have been about a million holding penalties.

[@josephcoleman57]

Crying about nothing..l posted a fuckin a video l'm not a Raider fan..Oh really you didn't see the like 5 holds Poole got away with in the SB Romo was even commenting on them How about Jake Mathews did you see any of his. No course not Dumbasses like you only see one side of the game

[@bobscott7440]

Greg Morain absolutely. Pats fans won't let it go.

[@DonQwantsyou]

game was fixed because if raiders lost davis said he would move team out of oakland. NFL wanted them there

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

@@bobscott7440 Oh Pats fans can let it go....for themselves; they have the 5 Super Bowl Championships in 8 trips. What is a shame to them is that Pats players from that era: Grogan, Stingley, Francis, Cunningham, et al, never got to a Super Bowl with that squad. This was their best chance.

[@bobscott7440]

@@dallasbrubaker6054 Fair enough. The point I was trying to make was every team gets screwed by the refs at some point. BTW I am not a fan of the Raiders, I just admired them from afar in the 1970s when they had Stabler, Biletnikof, Villapiano.

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

It was a roughing the passer. And Brady fumbled. It's not one in the same. One call was right and the other was wrong.

[@chrisholmes1343]

Lmao they were both terrible calls. Payback is a dish best served cold

[@stephenhanft1226]

Manu Ginobillis Bald Spot. You are 100% correct. Hamilton clubbed Stabler in the face with his forearm. That has never been legal and clearly roughing the passer. And Brady definitely fumbled because replays clearly showed that the ball was already back against his body when he was hit and lost it so the tuck rule did not apply.

[@DieYuppieScum91]

Yeah one was right (the tuck rule) according the the rule book. The other was not. There was no rule about contacting the head of the QB in 1976. The only way to call roughing, at that time, was a late hit. That's not a late hit. Add to that the same official had waived off a PI call on the previous drive. The NFL never assigned referee Ben Dreith another Patriots game. He was effectively banned from Foxborough.

[@xaviervega468]

LOL that would be a roughing call NOW. Back then that was par for the course. Complete horseshit call.

[@shigsho]

It wasn't roughing the passer back then. They NEVER used to call it. Tuck rule sucked but they got the call right.