Rover 200vi FREE electrical fix!!!

My Rover 200vi has been incredibly frustrating as the electrics have been getting worse - frequently non working indicators, christmas tree dashboard and still no radio - so Ive been getting into the volts.
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[@HowardLeVert]

13:28 Sorry Matt, but you fixed the radio by changing the interior light, clock and radio fuse - I said before that I reckoned the clock and the radio shared a feed. All the loose interior light wire in the A pillar will do is bring the interior light on if it touches the chassis, because that's what the switch does.

[@somervillearron]

actually the rovers have a weird thing where the light switch for the dash lights is wired into the radio so when the headlights are on the radio lights up with them! ive only ever came across that in rovers

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously!

[@HowardLeVert]

@@somervillearron My old Datsun Sunny did that!

[@paultaylor9652]

Nice one Matt, great to see it's not just us in the North West with grey leaden skies.

[@grayfool]

And the winning continues. Cool. This is a very good example of why car electrics confuse the hell out of me. What just happened? It's all way too "Harry Potter" for me.

[@lucythemoggy1970]

didnt matey that had that computer for quentins keys have a thing where you could get radio code?

[@furiousdriving]

no, thats a separate system in the radio

[@andrewbarnes1295]

Well done, very satisfying when you get these kind of annoying faults fixed yourself for free, motivates you to carry on!

[@markf4720]

Nice when you keep persevering and all of a sudden get a stroke of luck! I note you're now screening off the W123 behind the wheelie bins, hopefully not forgotten!!! :)

[@furiousdriving]

Im hoping to stop the rust migrating with the bin screen!

[@tonys1636]

Brilliant Matt, you saved £150+ for an auto electrician, who'd have thunk it that a relay could cause so many seemingly unrelated problems. Now I know why I preferred truck and bus electrics, everything was on its own return to the ground battery terminal/master switch, finding where a wire was broken in the loom was another story, just putting in a new one was often easier.

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Cannot beat a free fix. Great little tinkering video.

[@robertsedgwick1629]

i would also be checking where loom goes from body to hatch as i had a whole world of pain from just ONE itty bitty earth wire breaking on my 2007 civic!

[@lesklower7281]

Enjoyed this video Matt tinkering with your Rover and success sorted out most of your electricle gremlins

[@antman5474]

I had the Perkins version. Loved it. Cracking little motor. 60mpg

[@ianjenkins4641]

It was the fuse for the interior light and radio clock that fixed your radio not the flasher relay

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously!

[@yellowbird8690]

First of all, that earth point is on the bulkhead, on the inside behind that clock. Secondly, check indicator bulb fittings. The contacts on my ones seemed to electro-etched themselves away. The bayonet fixing doesn't have a very strong spring, so it can rattle and spark.

[@fhwolthuis]

Well done! And you've got a clock on the Le Geek 😁

[@furiousdriving]

If only I could work out out how to set it lol

[@dadskillzcars]

Good work Matt!

[@davidjnr3418]

will be the good old tailgate loom all rubbed through. Common issue. if you peel the rubber boot at the top of the tailgate you will find some broken wires.

[@davidjnr3418]

Your spade connector for the driver's door switch can be accessed via the internal fusebox with small hands

[@BartMGRX]

My thoughts as well as this can cause the strangest faults in an R3.

[@HowardLeVert]

@@BartMGRX It causes all manner of bonkers faults in most cars - my old BMW E34 used to throw up all sorts of weird faults (mostly lighting related) because of this. My E60 doesn't light the boot up because of cracked wires in the boot lid harness.

[@Lot76CARS]

Great and surprising news Matt.. we all need a bit of luck sometimes don’t we?

[@michaeltutty1540]

Great job, Matt. That appears to have been a triple fault, with fuse, earth, and flasher all being culprits, each contributing to the issue. I don't know who made the wiring looms for this car, but if it is a Bosch system, when one thing doesn't work right all sorts of weird and whacky things happen. It truly is bizarre how thing work at all with the multiplexed wiring. The entire system works off feedback. Get that wrong and there is no end to the issue. The issue with that fuse could easily be that the end of the wire for the door switch is shorting out while driving. That is what I would concentrate on next. Good luck. The wee old thing is coming on nicely.

[@kevinnye5132]

Nice fix Matt 👌🏻, calm down and have a well deserved cup of Tea 😄, auto electrics are always just so hard , well done 👍🏻.

[@hectorshouse7348]

Good work 👍

[@richardhowlett9424]

See you in sherburn

[@MrGaryRoberton]

Might I suggest a small amount of Contact Cleaner & a bit of light lube on the plunger switches and boot actuator to confirm they are running free sticky switch can flatten a battery over a few days.... Well Done Cheers

[@anakinskywalker4113]

I think you should still take the drivers door apart to see what’s inside. And fix the door open thing. Also about the boot open warning light could be the actually switch in the that is located either on the tailgate or where the lock mechanism is. It may not be registering anything. Keep up the good work

[@robjeavons5982]

Well done maye

[@andyarmstrong1493]

Clear as muck, but great outcome!

[@somervillearron]

as you said mate it was the earths they can cause all sorts of problems on cars with a ecu,especially if there full canbus systems ive seen window switches open central locking on a renault! it was a little kangoo and honestly the weird things the earth was causing where mind boggling!

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Flasher relay short to ground probably.

[@sardav160479]

Thought I saw your Crown Vic at Simply Ford Beaulieu last weekend

[@deanwebb4809]

I always liked the vi like yours as, they didn't look like hot hatches a bit like my old 99 ibiza gti not a cupra would love one fast as ****

[@giulianomarco]

Matt - Rover 827 V6 Mk2, British Racing Green, long wheel base, one careful lady owner from Buckinghamshire (HMQ!?) up for auction. Piece in the newspaper today. Expected to reach six figures... 😁

[@furiousdriving]

£1000.50p thats 6 figures!

[@giulianomarco]

@@furiousdriving If it's got a rear washwipe, Hubnut will no doubt bid £1000.75... 😁

[@WheelchairWonders]

Definitely a Rover thing lol... Always check what it shouldn’t be ha.. (Phil)

[@jimmyquinn9639]

Well done 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Rockape501]

I ordered a nice tea mug off you last week, to help fund your projects :)

[@furiousdriving]

Thank you, hopefully its with you now - I had to wait a day for the new mug packaging to arrive!

[@Rockape501]

Arrived safe and sound. Thank you

[@brianjohnson5789]

seal the rover stereo in plastic bags, stick it in the freezer, leave a few days, the cold will do a factory reset, the old car stereo thief trick

[@furiousdriving]

I wont ask how you spent your youth!

[@brianjohnson5789]

@@furiousdriving common knowledge

[@williamwales6619]

Hello Matt. Genius?? Inspector Cluso (Whatever) couldn't have done any better. Well done. Time to rag it somewhere nice and get a day out as well. Finally try looking for a radio code supplier on the net. I got one a couple of years ago. Car reg and radio serial number was required cost me a £10. Remember that was a couple of years ago.So don't shoot the messenger.🤔

[@hhgttg69]

try the flasher relay you removed in the wagon

[@furiousdriving]

Im sure its broken, new one on the way!

[@ash7990]

Boot open warning light issues probably tailgate wiring loom chaffed - top drivers side corner in rubber grommet

[@giulianomarco]

"It's Electric" (Diamond Head). 😁🤘

[@Leon-uj7pc]

Is the car rare because it was expensive when new and nobody bought them? Or did the high cost of insurance scare folks away from it? Or was it that the car suffered from unreliability and most folks just scrapped them rather then continue to feed the money pit? It is good you are working through the issues of that car

[@furiousdriving]

They were expensive but the BRM looked more flash so was saved, these didnt look different enough to be recognised but all the 90s hot hatches are rare now

[@KnightRider46]

You changed the fuse for the radio/ interior light and shock horror the interior light and the radio now works 😂🤣

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously

[@richardhaywoodh]

Great job including clean up. Is it just me but the plastic trim sounds so brittle and the sound of it unclipping really grates 😱

[@furiousdriving]

I hate taking 20+ year old plastic apart, it shatters so easily

[@phil7301]

You couldn't make that up !?😳👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@metalman4141]

Well done matt, can you come and help me find the live supply for my front fogs on my early 75 now I’m going crazy here 😤

[@furiousdriving]

Im definitely not the right person for that!

[@ash7990]

I think the blown fuse also powers the radio, but doesn’t list it.

[@dudleycollyer3181]

Don't forget you changed the radio memory fuse. But yes light might be something to do with flasher relays I have seen hazard relays and switches causing really strange problems. But I suggest you look back at your old videos to find which radio worked then stopped and check it does not have a fuse blowing is issue.

[@furiousdriving]

That was the Sony

[@jamieeedden777]

I remember one of these that had a few orange bits on if I remember rite part of the front bumper and wing mirrors what would be a good price for one with a good mot

[@furiousdriving]

That would be the BRM with the orange. Good one of these £5k, a good BRM more

[@jamieeedden777]

@@furiousdriving one I've been offered is 2300 needs some pain and odd bits but still looks an okay car

[@gerryb6423]

You forgot the Sunroof Matt and with a heatwave (Expected) you could use one or more of your other motors I suppose, Still I cant wait till the P6 is done !!

[@furiousdriving]

Incredibly the sunroof works!

[@cav4290]

Hello, could you give me the contact details of the body shop you used to paint Quentin?

[@GPSOMG-]

Sounds like the fan belt slipping may need a new one? or adjusting on your initial startup.😉

[@DashCamSerbia]

Yeah, I've noticed that as well.

[@furiousdriving]

its a new belt, needs tightening at some point

[@jasoncornell1579]

Did u use the tea shelf?

[@furiousdriving]

tea floor

[@eggy1962]

still think that door switch wire might be a fuse blower if its floating around bare ended, will your scope go in the hole to look? if its there have you thought of a flexi grasper ie go fishing for it

[@markpunt9638]

Wouldn’t that be an earth though? Didn’t they used to switch the Earth to make the courtesy lights come on

[@HowardLeVert]

@@markpunt9638 Every car I've ever owned where I could see that switch did just that - connected the light bulb to earth, the other end being fed with 12V.

[@furiousdriving]

It does, but couldnt see it when I looked

[@eggy1962]

@@HowardLeVert ones i have dealt with the wire is a live feed the switch earths itself as it screwed to body, the action of the door switch breaks the circuit hence the light goes out when door closed.

[@HowardLeVert]

@@eggy1962 It's 'live' in the sense that there's a bulb attached to the other end of the wire so all that would happen is that the light would flicker on and off if the wire touched the bodywork - all you're doing is mimicking the switch after all...

[@jamescross2229]

Didnt the blown fuse cover the interior light and clock radio ? Perhaps it was that rather than the flasher relay that brought the radio back to life. Either way epic win !

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously!

[@jamescross2229]

@@furiousdriving i wonder if the +12v connection to the removed door switch touched the metal somewhere inside. I can imagine it hanging loose when they took the plunger switch off. That could have blown the fuse with you starting to use the car.

[@cjmillsnun]

changing the fuse fixed the radio.

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously!

[@888johnmac]

call it Christine .. give it a bit of TLC & random things start working .. lol

[@paul1153]

Any plans to take the car out somewhere during summer?

[@furiousdriving]

It might be heading north soon...

[@alextoft9199]

Have you still got the Freelander or has it made a quiet exit? 🤔

[@furiousdriving]

Still there, just not been on camera

[@thedeadstig123]

Nice to see your using that radio I sent you, now how do you pronounce it's name 😂

[@furiousdriving]

Le Geek! What a great brand name!

[@thedeadstig123]

@@furiousdriving came from one of those packs from amazon they were going to destroy believe it or not

[@Phiyedough]

Not really free if you have nicked a part out of one of your other cars. I wonder if that loose door switch wire is floating around and shorting out on something now and then? In theory that should not be a problem as it only makes the earth connection to the interior light.

[@furiousdriving]

Its free until I replace it...

[@Rust_in_Time]

If you think R8s are bad, try dealing with SD1 wiring....in my car someone had wired the indicators to the left and right interior lights!

[@somervillearron]

do you mean the actual indicators or where they just acting as the telltale repeaters for the indicators?

[@Rust_in_Time]

@@somervillearron When indicating to go round a corner, the corresponding b-pillar courtesy light would flash as well as the external turn signals

[@furiousdriving]

just...why??

[@richardhewitt.easyvanlife.6957]

Told you it was fuse for light and radio.

[@HowardLeVert]

Agreed!

[@furiousdriving]

The weird thing is the fuse wasnt blown when I checked previously!

[@nigelrudd670]

It's a Rover 🤓

[@rimmersbryggeri]

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[@michaelsanderson5023]

No, it's not 'fixed'; stuff might work, for now, but it's not 'fixed'. Ask yourself: why would changing an indicator relay fix other problems? The answer is - it doesn't. Why did the indicator relay fail? Perhaps because it had parasitic current going through it that caused it to fail, due to duff earths somewhere. I once had a Lancia Gamma with bad electrics - it took me weeks, with the wiring diagram, to sort it out (bad earths being a major cause of the problems). Being a long time subscriber I suspect you don't have the patience for that sort of enterprise. Getting an actual auto electrician to look at it may save you pain in the long run. Just a thought Matt. Mike. PS: any chance of a P6B start-up any time soon?

[@cjmillsnun]

It's a lucas computer controlled flasher relay. It could be something as simple as a dry joint that is causing that problem. The other things were fixed by the fuse.

[@michaelsanderson5023]

@@cjmillsnun Then it's the computer at fault - it's still not the relay, that's just the symptom.

[@jameshunterford4099]

38 minutes and I’m only the 12th comment!!!!! Oh well... 12th comment WAHOOOOO

[@leightondavies6867]

1st bitchs

[@DashCamSerbia]

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