[ROX] The Diminish Effect Of Crit Damage. High Crit Dmg Bns Does not mean High Damage | King Spade

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As a crit build, you should know the diminish effect of the crit damage. Watch the video for more details.
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@jejemax8213
@jejemax8213 10 ай бұрын
I believe it should be 1:1:1:2 to maximize dps 1 size 1 element 1 final dmg bonus 2 crit dmg bonus Like in multiplication the nearer value of each multiplier the higher the product/result. 6 final dmg bonus x 6 element is higher then 3 final dmg bonus x 9 element You have to balance everything, so it is normal that size multiplier card will give you the most dps coz it is the lowest value and low source. Nice video info.
@shineirvin169
@shineirvin169 10 ай бұрын
But fire element only max 100. High than that - 50%. How do you calc this ?
@SoyaBeanCuurd
@SoyaBeanCuurd 9 ай бұрын
question bro, is it the same in pvp? or high element is better than crit dmage bonus? gx haste katar here thanks in advance
@Grimm_vidz
@Grimm_vidz 10 ай бұрын
Eye opener! Thanks for making video! Looking forward to tweeking my build after this ❤
@silverclimber
@silverclimber 10 ай бұрын
Thanks king, now i can focus with element and size also without hesitate
@rodelmonteloyola3364
@rodelmonteloyola3364 10 ай бұрын
Have been in that situation, really regret buying 5 evil druid, 6 bloody knight and realized why crit dmg bonus card prices are low
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! I regret buying that 2 evil druid cards, i was plaining to get another one tbh.
@rodelmonteloyola3364
@rodelmonteloyola3364 10 ай бұрын
@@KingSpadeGaming yeah it is really tempting to buy another one because the additional damage value is really high
@darkhumoronly
@darkhumoronly 9 ай бұрын
That's why I go to Int ranger. All you need to do is get around 200 luk and you get 100% auto blitz. Pump Int, Pen, Bonus Damage and Neutral damage and you get big multiplier on falcon damage from shadow equipment. Down fall would be sometimes you do miss in higher level mobs. But it is almost the same problem with crit because some mobs have high crit def.
@md_plays
@md_plays 10 ай бұрын
I already knew the 2:1 ratio for crit, but I was surpriseed there was also element, size and whatnot. I just assumed it was 100% crit = 200% crit dmg bonus. But it doesnt rlly matter to me who doesnt do boss hunt and kvm and just grind and focus on progression. If I can kill a monster with ease thats enougn for me but thats just my playstyle tho
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Hi yeah me as well to be honest, mostly because it is hard to focus on getting more third multiplier like element. Whale can focus up to 4 damage multiplier that include size or race, and actually have a lot of these stats, but for casual players, 2 to 3 famage multiplier is the limit. More than that you will have low stat.
@md_plays
@md_plays 10 ай бұрын
@@KingSpadeGaming true
@jeremyanthony8662
@jeremyanthony8662 10 ай бұрын
558×1.2>582×1.1>606×1 24% crit dmg is relatively small when you have high crit dmg multiplier which is why having balanced damage multiplier is more efficient then just solely putting everything into 1 damage stat ie. crit dmg in this case
@aidilputra4374
@aidilputra4374 10 ай бұрын
thanks for upload this info,, i really need this.
@butcherhz
@butcherhz 10 ай бұрын
Wow.. Even i dont know bout this. Tq for info
@RoxAttackDog
@RoxAttackDog 10 ай бұрын
no threshold nor not necessary limited to crit stat. You need to factor effect of multiplier with the base damage on this example you have changed 2 multiplier which is size % and crit %, now lets put 1 as our base number 1 x 517.85% x 110%= 569.64%(Evil D + Skel Card) 1 x 541.85 x 100% = 541.85%(2 evil D) so if you actually do the math it will give lower damage. basically damage % diminish when the gap towards other multiplier get higher thats also why its ideal to balance big multiplier damage bonuses like p.atk,elemental, final p.,crit and size modifier as much as possible. 4 x 2 x 2 is better than 6 x 1 x 1 even they both equal to 8 when you add up. hope this helps king.
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Tags for the insight!
@derkz4145
@derkz4145 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I was doing it wrong with my 2H RG. lol
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Me here too haha
@A7171gaming
@A7171gaming 10 ай бұрын
Would be useful if you could share the damage formula for crit and ppen build video and educate on stats balancing. At higher tier where size % is 200%+, race and dmg to monster attribute will give higher dps output compared to other stats. We just need to balance all stats in the damage output formula to yield highest dps possible. Most players are lacking in size, race, final dmg bonus (not final pdmg bonus), damage to monster attribute. That’s why the new dps meta is izlude/alberta enchant on weapon after having enough size on cards or izlude enchant on acc.
@mentolblack530
@mentolblack530 10 ай бұрын
This why we need more bonus damage.. example if use small size tipe damage the other size damge will be lower.. for me the element tipe damage is more good, but if want more use f p.dmg bonus or m.dmg..
@dervish816
@dervish816 10 ай бұрын
I dont think it is really about diminishing return, but more of balancing stats. I think the reasoning is that for example if a target has more p.dmg reduction than your p.dmg bonus, the p.dmg multiplier becomes less than 1 that is causing lowered damage. Having too much crtDmg means other multipliers are lowered. My GS also is suffering from this, and I have been in the process of putting back more p.dmg bonus and element for 3weeks alrdy... planning to keep most of my crtDmg coming from my pet and get other multipliers from cards as well as crt Rate.
@eugenedelacruz4687
@eugenedelacruz4687 10 ай бұрын
Basically size multiplier has higher damage rather than crit bonus
@foxscarletgaming
@foxscarletgaming 10 ай бұрын
Its all about balanced. Because the key off all multiplier. Better you unlock new multiplier (elemnt,size,race) even is small % it will boost your damage.
@jasperholgado757
@jasperholgado757 10 ай бұрын
actually, it make sense. have you forgotten that there is a damage calculation in rox? adding more and more crit damage bonus alone with lowering other stats, like your large mobs damage bonus, will really decrease your dps. all stats should always be balance. so that your dps will increase
@LoLo-xt6zw
@LoLo-xt6zw 10 ай бұрын
Yes crit build are more complicated compared to pen build. You need to balance all damage multiplier to get the best result.
@tatsdgreat8886
@tatsdgreat8886 10 ай бұрын
Nope...u did not show diminishing crit damage....u simply compared ur attacks on large monsters...crit damage is still affected by ur attack so since u removed ur 20% additional final damage on large monsters, u surely got lower crit damage....if u simply tried small or medium mobs, u will see an increase in ur crit damage...in short u simply proved that 24% crit damge bonus is not enough to compensate the 20% additional final bonus damage on large monster
@JsenMeteormaker
@JsenMeteormaker 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, you are right. The essence of knowing if there is a "Diminishing effect on crit damage bonus" is already gone since he got a size multiplier involved at the first place. I hope KingSpade will redo this video.
@bunkiko8690
@bunkiko8690 10 ай бұрын
Patk+crit dmg bonus %+pdmg bonus%+element %+size % for simple calculation
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
See, I knew it... Pumping too much Crit DMG Bonus doesn't make the dps stronger. Crit DMG Bonus only multiply P.ATK that already multiplied with P.ATK%, but didn't multiplied yet with other DMG Bonuses available. The real optimal ratio for DMG bonus stats were for example : Crit DMG Bonus = 400% Final P.DMG Bonus = 100% after reduced by Target's Final P.DMG RED Chosen Element Enhance = 150% DMG Bonus VS Chosen Size = 150% after ignoring Weapon based size penalty Every 2% Crit DMG Bonus increase beyond this point, the other DMG Bonuses were must increase like this : Final P.DMG Bonus +1% Chosen Element Enhance +1,25% DMG Bonus VS Chosen Size +1,25%
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
For example, you're fighting against Eclipse Lv.130 : Most optimal stats : Crit DMG Bonus = 400% Final P.DMG Bonus = 322,11% Chosen Element Enhance = 150% DMG Bonus VS Small = 150% (175% if weapon has penalty against Small) Eclipse Lv.130 has absurd 222,11% Final P.DMG RED, which is the highest Final P.DMG RED of all MVP MINI.
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Wow that is insane. Luckily Eclipse don't attack back and just be the punching bag.
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
@@KingSpadeGaming punching bag for everyone. And it's also not the right place for damage testing due to ridiculous high Final P.DMG RED and chance to drop was completely low due to many players participated.
@shineirvin169
@shineirvin169 10 ай бұрын
Is 150 element most optimal ? Cuz over 100 it reduce by 50%
@alterjohnbacanto7828
@alterjohnbacanto7828 10 ай бұрын
There is two paths of build. Crit type and pen. type.. If you go to crit ttpe then put some buffs on crit dmg..
@str2591
@str2591 2 ай бұрын
This is my current ratio of my character. 400% - Crit Bonus 100% - F P.Bonus 100% - Element I have a spare card which increases the attack %. Does this card increases my overall crit damage?
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 2 ай бұрын
@@str2591 hi yes increasing PATK will increase your overall crit damage
@HaraZuki-x8u
@HaraZuki-x8u 10 ай бұрын
Regarding this video, can I have your suggestions for the katar haste sinx stats build? (from cards, BA, enchantments) Thanks in advance😊
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Ohh katar haste main prob is to find the haste stat, for that you need to use haste talisman, if it is not enough, you need to get more crit rate, you may need to get crit in enchant instead.
@HaraZuki-x8u
@HaraZuki-x8u 10 ай бұрын
@@KingSpadeGaming I'm using haste talis but the main problem is how can I balance some stats (crit dmg, poison att, fdmgbonus) to make my damage increase. I got a dokebi pet for a crit dmg bonus. Now, for the cards, I don't know what to prioritize. Since I am pvp oriented, I'm looking forward to increasing my damage without any regrets on choosing cards and balancing the stats.
@SoyaBeanCuurd
@SoyaBeanCuurd 9 ай бұрын
is it the same for element? the more you have the less its effective? @KingSpade
@rafaeltugas9607
@rafaeltugas9607 10 ай бұрын
Im a dex crit ranger With regard to dmg/dps Size% > final pdmg bonus > element% > crit dmg bonus > p.atk This is the ranking of what gives more to dps based on my experience even though im crit type, my weapon cards include size modifiers then my accessory cards i have 2x galapago 4x orange venatu
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
Size% only works in PvE, but why not invest it, it's a luxury stats that greatly increase dps. And final pdmg bonus was very useful to greatly increase dps because MVP MINI's Final P.DMG Reduction were too high. Element% just pump at least 150% and Crit DMG Bonus just pump at least 400% to be done.
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
My Planned card build, pet, talisman, and acc enchantment : 1. Card : - Weapon = 4 Stone Shooter Cards + 1 obtained Tanjiro Blue Card - Acc Talisman = 6 Orange Venatu Cards - Headgear = 6 Fiery Dimik Cards 2. Pet = Yoyo with final pdmg bonus refined (because I also play Earth element thanks to 6 Fiery Dimik Cards) 😂 3. Talisman = Yggdrasil's Bud (that piece of wood thing) 4. Acc Enchantments = 8 Size & 1 Alberta Crit%
@rafaeltugas9607
@rafaeltugas9607 10 ай бұрын
@@kelvinlim9857 yup im pve focused
@rafaeltugas9607
@rafaeltugas9607 10 ай бұрын
@@kelvinlim9857 i still prefer nereid over fiery dimik, i already those cards in weapon, then in acce 4x orange venatu and 2x galapago, need f.crit for juno mobs.
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
@@rafaeltugas9607 wait, what weapon cards you're using?
@faizeemohd832
@faizeemohd832 10 ай бұрын
Lucky i just start with mobsters card. Just 3 of them for final crit also 😅
@fizzdoodle9666
@fizzdoodle9666 10 ай бұрын
hey king. I need your help with the one punch man event. this event is super demanding as all rewards seems to be locked in a "random" rng wall. Im having a hard time with the superpower request. can't get crystals anymore to buy the super demanding materials. will I be able to still get the kpass if i ignore this event, or just skip it once in a while? I feel like with the xtals i waster with this event, I can buy an elite blue card already lol.
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Hi total exp point for lv80 is 8000, from daily and accumulative quest, you can get total 8400 exp. So you can't miss the event daily quest too many time. Well you always can buy the pass exp with diamonds. And you can refresh the daily quest 2 tines if it is hard to finish.
@studentnovice4669
@studentnovice4669 10 ай бұрын
Helo, any update if the smelting event from taiwan will be available at SEA? The one with 50% chance to double the smelting product.
@johnelvindagoc6654
@johnelvindagoc6654 9 ай бұрын
Hi king may ask if this will also apply in pvp ?
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 9 ай бұрын
Hi yes, but for pvp there is specific stat for pvp, like the pvp dmg bns.
@johnelvindagoc6654
@johnelvindagoc6654 9 ай бұрын
@@KingSpadeGaming oki thank u more power godbless.
@kakatamaki2
@kakatamaki2 10 ай бұрын
well it is because, crit already 200%, so increase 50-100% only did little, thats why dmg bonus% + element is still the best especially crit build
@janjisuson5390
@janjisuson5390 10 ай бұрын
So it means crit damage is not good for this game..go for pen type character instead of crit type..changing my sinx to other job..
@kelvinlim9857
@kelvinlim9857 10 ай бұрын
Crit damage only multiply P.ATK. Final P.PEN as well. The upside of Crit DMG Bonus was already fully ignore Target's Final P.DEF and all monsters doesn't have Crit DMG Reduction at all.
@anggasgk4755
@anggasgk4755 9 ай бұрын
And don't forget, your dps is zero if you are controlled (stunned, petrified etc) or dead.
@thunderbolt5241
@thunderbolt5241 10 ай бұрын
how about pen whats the ratio?
@hilmanic28
@hilmanic28 10 ай бұрын
Damage ratio is not the same anymore. Monsters have higher Final PDMG Red now, so your Final PDMG Bonus needs to be alot higher.
@cmcs983
@cmcs983 10 ай бұрын
Hello! I stopped playing this game long ago, but thinking of starting over. Is this game still worth playing?
@KingSpadeGaming
@KingSpadeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Hi yes it is still worth it, there are a lot more job class to choose now. There will be a new server open on 12 Dec, it is the right time to start new
@GwenTiana
@GwenTiana 10 ай бұрын
King try to change your acc with lv60 acc and try using stone shooter card on weapon
@eduardojrolarte1514
@eduardojrolarte1514 10 ай бұрын
1st
@markjestersullivan
@markjestersullivan 10 ай бұрын
What if 5 khalitzburg? Is it bad?
@michaeltikz6053
@michaeltikz6053 10 ай бұрын
Lol im also a victim of pure crit bonus build
@Just-_-Kei
@Just-_-Kei 10 ай бұрын
first
@DaRr3Nj1n89
@DaRr3Nj1n89 10 ай бұрын
I use that grave keeper...I think is this name card atk large +25%make my dmg to large 100%😂
@erisking7779
@erisking7779 10 ай бұрын
your stat no balance, your crit dmg bonus high but your pdmg bonus to small n element small to... you up crit dmg bonus again, will not make significan impact... but try to up pdmg bonus or ele, that will better than up crit dmg bonus again...
@faizeemohd832
@faizeemohd832 10 ай бұрын
Info to share: final p.pen boost trap damage better than int 😂
@PanduSwardiana
@PanduSwardiana 10 ай бұрын
Nice video..
@Chocobozz1
@Chocobozz1 9 ай бұрын
Now you only know?
@cbt6828
@cbt6828 10 ай бұрын
Crit dmge is half of final p dmage bonus zzzz
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@elemfao500 10 ай бұрын
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@BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_ 10 ай бұрын
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