Roy Shaw Destroyed Lenny McLean in First Fight! - Johnny Sabini

[@LilysLife-ns4qs]

People forget Shaw was 42 when he fought Lenny. Lenny was 29 in his prime if you can call it that. Big difference 42 and 29. When years later Roy asked Lenny for another fight. Lenny was 42 and said Roy I am too old these days. Roy said are you joking you are the same age I was when we thought. Now I am 56

[@chaseybears]

Spot on....he knew Roy was getting on in years. Plus the height and weight difference was a joke. In his day, Roy Shaw was a different class to Lenny.

[@tyee8760]

We’ve only got Roy’s word for that and he’s a proven liar 😊

[@davidburrows4801]

This guy's had a few sherberts in his day.😂

[@tyee8760]

Give it a rest...whatever happened in the first fight he got belted to fuck in the next two.

[@percylongshaft4091]

You could fry eggs on that blokes cheeks , Lenny battered him to a pulp in the other 2 fights though .

[@w1ldcard1986]

yeah after roy had been sedated that badly in broadmoor he came out half the man

[@garbo7799]

Roy was drugged up and wasn’t himself in the last two fights , Roy always tried to get Lenny back into the ring over the years but Lenny turned them down

[@johnnydickfingers7310]

So watt

[@garybanks-mu9ik]

​@w1ldcard743 all three fights were long after Roy's broadmoor spell

[@lloydpaddock3866]

Good interview , but wrong on the Paddock fight. Roy Shaw beat my cousin on points over 8 rounds , didn't destroy him and had great respect for my cousin as a fighter. I'm a big Roy Shaw fan by the way !

[@LiamGalvinFilm]

I believe your cousin beat Lenny McLean? All the Best

[@lloydpaddock3866]

@@LiamGalvinFilm Yes he did , very proud of my cousin the only man to fight both Roy Shaw and Lenny McLean

[@LiamGalvinFilm]

@@lloydpaddock3866 Obviously was great fighter as only lost on points to Roy & beat Lenny. Don't think he got the recognition he deserved

[@tinny999]

What's his name ???

[@lloydpaddock3866]

@@tinny999 My cousin is Kevin Paddock

[@ralfmalf5828]

Roy Shaw isn't that the fella that Lenny knocked through the ropes into the second row of the spectators stand's ?

[@w1ldcard1986]

yeah after roy came out of broadmoor and was half the man ....pleb

[@ralfmalf5828]

@@w1ldcard1986 Yeah I am talking about post Broadmoor.... numb nut lmao, So what's your point ?

[@williamhenry4986]

I don’t favour any of them but you have to take into consideration that shaw was 13 years older I’m certain if they was both in there 20s would of been a different story who knows one thing for certain they was both bloody ugly 😂

[@bazza1949]

Roy Shaw was a boxer...and a very good one.Lenny was a streetfighter..So fighting in a ring with gloves and rules was in Roys favour. Nevertheless both were hard men,and had huge respect.

[@ralfmalf5828]

@@w1ldcard1986 I e stood toe to toe with both men and I know which won I’d rather have to have a knuckle against , BTW your the pleb 😂

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

Lenny knocked shaw out of the ring with one punch in one fight & then KO'd him with about 20 unanswered punches in another, but ran away when he seen him in in a pub ? this guy is talking out of his arse

[@Buckblacket]

Shaw was still alive when this was filmed but McLean was dead hence the liberties taken in some of these interviews. I bet he wouldn't have talked shit like this if McLean had still been alive!

[@blahblah6968]

Shaw was a full on gangster. McLean was a bouncer and a bully. Shaw would have no hesitation in using a tool or a gun McLean would have feared him. different levels. Both poor boxers

[@Buckblacket]

@@blahblah6968 I bet they were both shit scared of you Barry. Any trouble and you'd have Cillit Banged the fuck out of them.....

[@blahblah6968]

@@Buckblacket wow. Another comedy genius!!!!!!

[@kimjongun1413]

@@Buckblacket You need a slap

[@Khaos969]

Frank Warren said he saw the fight and it was one of the strangest things he'd ever seen Lenny put his hands down and went "go on then hit me" and Roy Shaw smacked him a few times and Lenny quit... Frank said it was the most ridiculous things he'd ever seen.

[@matthewsharkey5685]

What you talking about

[@Khaos969]

@@matthewsharkey5685 Lenny put his hands down and let Roy hit him about 7-8 times and lost.... go and find Frank Warrens video about it.... doesn't look like hes lying either..

[@richardwalker4220]

@@matthewsharkey5685 I think he meant lenny quit

[@matthewsharkey5685]

@@Khaos969 I got confused with the roy quit I'm guessing you got mixed up. I will check the video out.

[@Khaos969]

@@matthewsharkey5685 oh shit yea i see it ill edit

[@northernpatriotmanchester675]

Lenny knocked 7 colours out of him in the returns, let it go mate

[@johnny5805]

The only thing that Roy Shaw is remembered for is the two humiliating thrashings McLean visited upon him, destroying his reputation forever.

[@vontrap6942]

Not sure what this guys point is but Lenny beat him twice after that. Lenny may not have been the best fighter, he got beat in the ring a few times but there is no doubt he was the real deal and a very tough bloke. He grew up street fighting and perhaps he did lose a few but I doubt he lost many street fights. Roy was also a tough bloke. Both were a lot harder than everyone on here will ever be. Then we get the people saying they were bullies, well they aint going to be some let's have a kiss and cuddle and be friends type of blokes in their types of lifestyles. Of course they were both bullies. You don't get to be enforcers, street fighters and bank robbers without being an evil cunt. Both men were not to be crossed but one thing is for sure, they are both dead and no one would have the guts to say shit to their faces if they were still alive.

[@ba-doubble5199]

His point is, roy destroyed lenny in the 1st fight! Its rarely talked about. Roy was half lennys size & 13 years older, won 1 lost 2 & in his 50s still wanted more but big bad lennys young age of 42 held him back.

[@mr786xcx]

Well lucky enough their both dead, pair of muppets!

[@Poet_LaureateInfinity]

I'm really confused.. from what I've seen, lenny has knocked the shit out of Roy.. So where is the footage of him "destroying" Lenny? I just can't see Lenny running away from Roy after seeing the way he knocked Roy out.

[@scott-em5bi]

Roy was associated with the Richardson brothers and the so called mad Frank, they all talk shit mate,watching Roy's fights he was useless fighting nobody's,lenny absolutely smashes him.

[@MylotheMask]

Same

[@theoracle6454]

Why can’t people accept that Lenny beat Roy fair and square twice? If Roy says he took medication fair enough, but why would he think he needs it after a victory and why take it again?

[@kieranmurphy7659]

I've only ever seen Lenny batter shaw in 2 fights never seen Roy throw 1 punch in on Lenny

[@janiwaite9360]

What about the other two fights Rosie cheeks

[@waynedycer8862]

I don’t believe for one second when Roy entered a building Lenny ran out of there

[@thomasmcclean4352]

Roy Shaw was an absolute gentleman

[@regjenkinson6247]

Was this first fight ever filmed can't seem to find it

[@Sebastian-Tickleberry]

Failed to mention the two fights after whisky nose

[@BeneathTheGold]

Even in the fights Roy lost he was still proved to be a hard bastard as he took like 35/40 rapid rock solid shots to the head and face before he went down. A normal person would have went down with one of those shots and i cant even see many pro heavyweights taking that many shots to go down. I cant find any footage of the first fight so I’m assuming there isnt any. That must be tough for roy. The only footage of those three fights are the two that he lost. I bet he would love to see footage of the first fight. Plenty of people would me included.

[@allanthompson2394]

It was the most amazing barrage of punches that I've seen anyone take and it wouldve put any man to sleep for a long time. Not Row Shaw ! You're right , that in itself tells us all we need to know about Shaw. Giving all that size awsy and age too and still Lenny couldn't put him sleep . Phenomenal really.

[@gazb9179]

Every fight I've seen Lenny punched the head clean off Roy!

[@andyh7895]

There were three fights. Shaw stopped McClean in the first one. It's not on the internet for some reason.

[@bobprobert353]

@@andyh7895 Yes so I see,I got mislead

[@mangetbunupmrrtm3930]

Roy beat him then one got disqualified then Lenny fucked Roy up and said I’m the Governor. That’s was Roy’s slogan.

[@andyh7895]

@@mangetbunupmrrtm3930 As I recall Lenny submitted against Roy in the first fight. And Lenny KO'd Shaw in the first round in the the other two fights. I don't remember a disqualification.

[@mangetbunupmrrtm3930]

@@andyh7895 the second fight got disqualified

[@cloudburstskys2720]

Roy shaw had a strange effect on a lot of these guys, there's 2 videos of lenny McLean destroying shaw but they still talk like it never happened and only talk about the first fight where shaw beat him.. Shaw was very fit that first fight and still relatively young, he had been training hard for years, stamina, strength training, he was in good shape, lenny could've run a mile without being knackered, he was a hard bloke but had no fitness and didn't know anything about proper fighting in the ring, where shaw had trained as a boxer so it's not surprising shaw won that first fight...second and 3rd fight lenny was fit.. He had had a couple of months of proper boxing coaching from a proper coach, he wasn't particularly skilled still but compared to the first fight he was more than ready., plus he was fit. No booze, better food and he was better than shaw, simple as that, I think if shaw was the same age as him he would of still battered him .. But.. McLean was full of shit, I've just read his book, he claims to of never been beat in or out of the ring...fact is he was beat many times .in the ring where it's documented with many witnesses and there's also lots of stories of him being beat on the streets, in pubs, clubs.. A friend of bill Gardner the west ham legend says he took McLeans weapon off him and he ran back in the club he was working at, bill is one of the most genuine characters you will ever hear about and he said his friend was the hardest man he ever knew, so as hard as McLean was there was blokes who were harder , he was a bully and a liar.. No1 is perfect though

[@cuibono6872]

A little bit off piste, but please indulge me, I used to follow West Ham in the 70s, before the ICF were heard of and when we went away there would always be a bit of trepidation, looking around to see if you recognised faces etc and you always gave a sigh of relief when you heard that Bill Gardner and the mile end mob were about, at the time it was always, "I've just seem Hampton and Gardner, the names went together like Mike and Bernie or Morecambe and Wise at the time, over the years I have read lots about Gardner, and the youngsters that followed, Cass Pennant, Leach and the rest but never nothing about Johnny Hampton, at the time he was revered but I have never heard him mentioned by any of the "famous" ex hooligans, was I imagining Johnny Hampton ?

[@w1ldcard1986]

dont be an idiot...for a start mclean was twice shaws size ffs..... and when he beat shaw, shaw was half the man he once was after almost being sedated to death at broadmoor mate so stop chatting absolute shite...pound for pound shaw was the hardest man ever to walk britain ...course theres gonna be absolute whoppers like you who are gonna claim differently but most of the east end know that roy was the king

[@garrywilson7465]

He lost 5 times

[@keebone]

Paul Sykes supposed to of done Roy Shaw twice in nick, over in seconds both times by accounts

[@kevinmcdermott3312]

Never believe all you hear. Like news papers.

[@tenks7341]

Not a chance 😂, Sykes was a bully, came up short every time against proper fighters, even turned his back against his opponent when the British Heavyweight Title was at stake !

[@MrDanybe]

@@tenks7341 what do you mean not a chance boy, he was one of the hardest men in the uk and had a terrible reputation in every nick he went in, it's well documented he beat the shit out of roy twice in Durham, roy even backs that up himself, do your research boy

[@neilrogers6767]

Paul Sykes was head and shoulders above all these guys as a boxer. No Shaw or McLean would have lasted in the ring with him, not the same league at all. Back street brawlers only. Good against average guys not proper fighters. Dodged away from Bark Gorman didn't they?

[@anthonyrowe6101]

Dave Courtney knocked out sykes

[@peteredwards3229]

Lenny underestimated him in the first fight didn't train thought it was going to be a walkover Roy was a psychotic individual unfortunately and that was his downfall loads of psycho s out there today

[@zigzzagz5732]

Actually Lenny made the mistake of putting his hands down and letting Shaw hit him.... This guy says Lenny wouldn't fight him again but where did that second fight come from. lol

[@flatliner3802]

I’m sorry but he didn’t destroy Kev paddock . Roy did beat Kevin but he beat him on points and lasted the full 8 rounds …. So he didn’t exactly destroy him plus Kev was in the pub a few hours earlier and was a last minute replacement and did zero training in preparation . I’m not knocking Roy as he was a very strong hard man but his trainer is exaggerating a little saying that “ Roy destroyed Kev paddock “ he beat him but he didn’t destroy him at all 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@thewhitedoncheadle8345]

fuckin hell, someone went overboard on the rouge

[@leechinnery2791]

People don't take into account the size difference between Shaw and Maclean,Shaw was 5 ft 10 and 15 stone,Maclean was 6 ft 3 and 23 stone,also Maclean was massive into steroids whereas Shaw wasn't,on the cobbles Roy would've killed him and that's a fact,I have no bias towards either guy btw,respected them both massively as 2 very hard men.

[@ralfmalf5828]

Hi Lee Lenny was just under 6ft and when he thought Roy was under 16 stone , you can see it for yourself on you tube . Lenny got massive through the early 80's which you can also watch on you tube at an event when he fought man mountain York . I urge you to watch that as in the front row is a Mr Roy Shaw , so Lenny running out of the back door of The Tottenham Royal is laughable especially as it's wasn't called that since the early 70's it's the Tottenham Ritzy during that era .

[@ralfmalf5828]

@RealityCheckNow 2020 I'm just under 6ft 2 and when we stood face to face he was a couple of inches shorter than me

[@ralfmalf5828]

@RealityCheckNow 2020 I urge you to read my chapter in his book

[@chaseybears]

@@ralfmalf5828 I was told he was 6'2" and 17 to 18 stone when he fought RS ? Could be wrong

[@ralfmalf5828]

@@chaseybears I'm 6ft 2 and when we stood face to face he would grab my neck and pull my head forward until our eyes were at the same height and say " God bless you son"

[@christiphermeadows5348]

That blokes cheeks should be for sale in a butchers shop window....

[@peakyblinder2847]

Never seen the first fight. Where he won? Any link to this any one

[@w1ldcard1986]

theres no footage to it mate...shaw offered anyone who had it recorded massive money but nobody ever came forward

[@kevthegoat8774]

There's no footage of any of the fights Lenny lost

[@martinhill9261]

After watching the 2nd and 3rd fights against Lenny it's hard to work out how Roy battered him in the first fight.

[@ifiwas195]

He done him with body shots. Lenny said he was unfit and Roy was a better boxer. Lenny went off and learnt how to box and the following two fights says it all

[@martinhill9261]

@@ifiwas195 it's such a pity there is no video of that fight to complete the series.

[@tomthumb3500]

Don’t know if it’s true but Roy was well into his 40s when he fought Lenny.

[@chaseybears]

LM fought a 13 years older man in RS with a height and weight difference that wouldnt be allowed in pro ranks.

[@tabsntoot]

About 39 first fight

[@outsidemayor2098]

Lenny destroyed him twice after ? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@tyronekhan848]

Where's Ronnie Pickering in all this

[@jeremyrodgers2216]

Lmfao

[@PaulBaksy]

Hes smashing bikers

[@GVGames1986]

Roy looks like a block of construction concrete and probably used to hit just as hard.

[@jamiewilson5679]

Any relation to Derby?

[@Hoxton66]

Yes he is, son of Charles, darby

[@108.London]

​@@Hoxton66no relation 100 % fact

[@almccausland9300]

Lenny doesn’t mention his losses in the book

[@108.London]

The only unbeaten fighter who lost at least 6 fights and who properly 5hit himself when jango fronted him at Woodford Town football club.

[@PaulBaksy]

Nobody does,they are muhammedamhardbrucelee

[@samcaldwell7694]

The last two fight roy lost simple as that it might be said that Roy wanted to fight him again and again that's just bravado all boxers when they loose want a rematch both hard men but look at the fights no more to be said

[@enquirer2.0]

Legend

[@hellohandsome9875]

I don't believe a word of it,,,, Lenny running away, yer right

[@100bollocks]

No footage of first fight?

[@soulsafari2147]

None exists. Roy searched everywhere for it.

[@thesniper437]

Yes he did ,but Lenny knocked him out twice after!!

[@paulperrin2152]

Lenny wouldn't fight the Duffer from Middlesbrough,

[@braille5575]

@@paulperrin2152 Lee would have ended it in 1 punch.

[@reviewswithpappy8058]

Well he should never of lost to man lot smaller and lot older than him same age same size roy would smashed him let's be real at least man ???

[@noblemann4898]

When they met, Pretty boy Shaw was in his early 40s and big Lenny was in his late 20s. On that age difference alone, if Shaw was the same age as Lenny it would have been 3-0 to Shaw

[@carlranger8060]

What a lot of cobblers! The Wealdstone Raider would’ve done them both on the same night. 'You got no Ground, you got no Fans'.

[@jambikes123]

Lenny stood there and let it happen for the laugh that’s why

[@haskeldinho12345]

I think this man may have had a sexual interest in Roy. Sees what he wants to see. 😂😂

[@ralfmalf5828]

Maybe, but he definitely wants to tell his stories about Roy to make a few quid , ' I could write a book on him " Write s book about yourself not someone else's stories

[@scott-em5bi]

Wheres the video footage of the 1st fight 🙄

[@LiamGalvinFilm]

Never been found -

[@scott-em5bi]

@@LiamGalvinFilm alarm bells not ringing lol

[@craigsteward245]

Sick to death of it.... Lenny this. Lenny that... He was absolutely rubbish in the ring Would even have made anywhere near southern area champion against proper fighters.. let's be honest , he was a big bully who couldn't box his way out of a paper bag as proper average boxer such as cliff fields and Kevin paddock easily proved. Even when challenged by a chap of equal size but more ability in ray hill, he bottled it , not once but twice and didn't even turn up..... Get over the hype. There were loads better fighters around at that time. He was better actor than boxer, and not very good at that either

[@markhughes8314]

Bloody Ginseng.......:)

[@craigfromscotland5272]

Bloody vitamin E 😁

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

In the words of Lenny Mclean " All he took was a right hander"

[@mrnice7570]

🤣😂

[@carlgibson5269]

Ok 1-0 then battered out of the ring ,then punched to the floor so 2-1 so Lenny was the governor 🥊

[@teddybear9029]

I always thought Roy came across as a really nice fella!

[@paulmurphypdm]

Roy was 4 stone lighter 7 inches shorter and a lot older than lenny.

[@therealnarcostherealnarcos9217]

And Lennie destroyed Roy in the 2nd and 3rd fight so what’s the point in this video

[@tyee8760]

Unstoppable…he get belted through the ropes 😂😂

[@christiphermeadows5348]

He wouldn't ov lasted seconds with these modern day MMA cage fighters these days

[@DM-hp7ct]

So what

[@w1ldcard1986]

right on lmao..if he had the training he would hav e...naturally much harder man than the woman in the cage these days

[@kevthegoat8774]

Facts, put any of them against British MMA fighter Tom Aspinall and it's a no contest.

[@josephmills-mw2hs]

Obviously

[@80spoint]

Lennie battered shaw in their last 2 fights because it’s all on utube for all to see

[@likeaboss6421]

Roy Shaw was tough but there was only one governer and that's lenny McLean and I believe he didn't want to fight later bcs he knew he had cancer so he retired, they don't come as tough as lenny

[@TheHarrybo1]

The same lennie who.cliff fields KOd on two occasions

[@waynedycer8862]

I don’t think there’s a man in this past or present that would make Lenny Maclean run away that’s the worst insult u could say about a fighting bloke they’d rather be knocked out this fanboy don’t no wat he’s on about never had a fight he’d think a sly dig is fair just a Chear leader

[@davidgalvin8238]

The 3 men Shaw, McLean and Fields could all beat each other on their day … Paddock was also a tough man. Fields was the better man in my opinion never a bully always a nice quiet guy until he had to go to work, chin like iron

[@tabsntoot]

Depends on the day doesn’t it. You can’t say either would beat either on every occasion life isn’t like that it’s like football some days are excellent the next week utter tripe.

[@judex3226]

Can’t say a bad thing about him, well he could have but Roy might of been watching… 🤔

[@nakayonghae9429]

Lenny battered Shaw in the next fights.

[@ralfmalf5828]

This fella is talking shit , when Shaw fought Lenny , Lenny wasn't a man mountain . They were about the same weight and height doesn't mean anything in a fight , maybe a bit of reach but it don't make you a better fighter , dementia is a terrible desease.

[@idiotology5568]

I watch one clip of the Kray film Legend and now they're recommending this shite.

[@rogerf8021]

Roy destroyed Lenny in 1 how do you describe 2 & 3;? Lenny never made a I drank ginsing excuses for losing..

[@nickybanks1191]

Does anyone out there no if lenny ever had a fight with cliff field ?

[@DM-hp7ct]

Yes. He lost.

[@w1ldcard1986]

yeah he got knocked out cold both times

[@PaulBaksy]

Roy and lenny would get there arses hand to them against REAL boxers.hardmen in there own circuit i believe but against actual boxers they would get the shit battered out them

[@enquirer2.0]

Big up sabinis

[@kevinyarlett7526]

Where is the footage that Roy shaw beat lennie mclean, 🤔

[@soulsafari2147]

It's doesn't exist. Roy tried everyone in hope he could locate it. Rumour has it that somebody doesn't like losing and did everything to take his L's out of circulation.

[@josephmills-mw2hs]

Frank warren destroyed it

[@jamesbrentnall2]

Lenny leathered him twice though there all on KZbin

[@craigbauer9566]

And got destroyed twice

[@andrewstannard8361]

And lenney distroyed roy in the next two fights.

[@anthonyrowe6101]

Roy wasn't shaw

[@kevinyarlett7526]

Your talking out your arse, lennie mclean wasn't scared of know man, 1 fight with shaw lennie knocked him threw the ropes a battered him, and another fight he anilated shaw with about 20 plus unanswerd punches, and it ended dazed wondering what planet he was on, so this guy is a total clout chaser and lier, lennie isn't alive to defend this BS, 🤔🥊🥊🥊

[@carlingram9722]

Yeah but got smashed in the other 2

[@craigl5729]

lenny lost a lot of fights for the guvnor...

[@jamb6600]

lou yates liverpool? wtf

[@andrewbracewell9836]

Funny this was never video and the other two was

[@almccausland9300]

Johnny Waldron cliff fields Kevin paddock

[@anthonyrowe6101]

Only name mentioned on here who was hard is lew Yates

[@w1ldcard1986]

as if lmao

[@w1ldcard1986]

lew bullshit yates

[@anthonyrowe6101]

@@w1ldcard1986 mate your about 15 what the fuck do you know leave the big boys talk and go back to playing computer games

[@tyronekhan848]

Roy may have won the first fight but Lenny paggered him in the next 2.... You look like you could get a job as a garden gnome go get your red hat.

[@w1ldcard1986]

yeah when he almost died from sedation at broadmoor and came out half the guy ya fucking massive whopper

[@capone6014]

All quiet after all these years and they pop up yeah shaw beat lenny when he was unfit and hadn't trained but why he trained for the second and third fight shaw got fucked up simple

[@jokerhahahahahaha6103]

Funny how all this nonsense comes out now Lennys dead, mate Lenny may have lost the first fight but he smashed Roy to pieces in the next two. Come on

[@thomasmcclean4352]

Or you would believe

[@anthonyrowe6101]

Lennie the Scottish domestic king

[@w1ldcard1986]

wasnt even king of his own street lol

[@dangl650]

In Arthur Thompson’s back yard

[@kevinyarlett7526]

B'S, 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dynamiteduggan]

Lol, the one he won, no video evidence. Lol sound like English football hooligans. All books and myths.

[@w1ldcard1986]

except for theres tons of account from witnesses who were there and seen it ya pole

[@ninjacowboy2670]

Red faced balloon lol.

[@josephmills-mw2hs]

Age mate everyone gets it

[@garymoon1]

Questions not set up at all 😂clowns

[@colinlynch5392]

Bullshit

[@kingsrd1]

Chatting bollocks