ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN 452 vs KTM ADVENTURE 390 X || WHICH IS BETTER?

[@yogioutofoffice]

I am liking Himalayan compared to adv x version. I wish it was few kgs lighter🥸

[@FTRClub]

Being a BMW F850 GS owner, you shouldn’t complain about the weight 🤣 Try the Himalayan once bro. It masks the weight very well.

[@px6497]

Remove the guards and main stand... you have few kgs less

[@debjeetsharma7049]

Brother the weight of bike is only feel on papers , it is lighter than you think in real life. Is a well balanced beast machine.

[@FTRClub]

Indeed. It’s surprising how well the Himalayan masks its weight. RE has done a fabulous job

[@nexuspurnea5140]

I’m Really Waiting for This Kind of Video ,All My Confusions are Cleared, Keep this Good work

[@FTRClub]

Glad to hear that

[@pshareesh]

Add a rear adjustable suspension to 390X and the comfort changes drastically. I have done this on my bike and the difference is huge, lot more comfortable to ride. Costs only 7500Rs for the upgrade

[@FTRClub]

I know. Even my friend has gotten an Xpulse rear suspension on his Adv 390 and that has made the ride better.

[@janoschekheldderberge3446]

Danke für das informative und gut gemachte Video. 👍 Die Himalayan ist auch meine Favoritin.

[@FTRClub]

Ich bin wirklich froh, dass es dir gefallen hat, Kumpel 👍👍

[@vishl5405]

Great video!! Loved it🙌🖤

[@FTRClub]

Thank you so much buddy. 🙏🏼

[@pesi_parashar]

Great comparison New versions of KTM ADVs may come in after second half of 2024 , that will be long wait😮

[@FTRClub]

Indeed. The launch of Himalayan is already impacting the sales of Adv 390. I hope KTM brings the updated model sooner.

[@Motoristika]

Looking forward to see this new beauty from RE. Do you think it is beginner friendly? Thanx and regards from far away Serbia :)

[@gikalarajanikanthvalmiki5417]

😊

[@khalid.biker23]

Great video mate, please tell me how come your screen on the RE is not flickering?

[@powel12]

Bro...the comparision was nice but you missed a lot of things..seat cushioning,headlight throw,whole features..brakes comparo,fatter rear tyre of RE comapred to 130 section rubber ok KTM,engine heat management,pillion comfort etcc..etc...etc

[@FTRClub]

My apologies for missing out on those points brother. I had extremely less time with the bikes. Moreover shooting alone has its own limitations. Most questions I’ve received over Instagram by viewers was about engine and suspension. I will try doing better from next time. Thank you so much for the honest feedback. I really appreciate it. 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@VM-1964]

Unfair not to have brt out the following... 1) Weight advantage of KTM 2) Benefit of tubeless tyres, compared to current option on Himalayan 3) KTM being a proven engine and body whereas, Himalayan has to be watched over at least 1 yr from now. Now, apart from a comparison point...why don't u influencers impress upon RE to concurrently give out an option for alloy wheels on Him450?? At least that wd preclude a future expenditure of at least 30k for ppl who are not insistent upon spoke wheels,(tubeless after approvals in future) as they aren't the hard core off-road varieties???

[@FTRClub]

I did mention about the peace of mind the KTM brings coz it runs on tubeless tires. I agree that I missed to point out one of the most important points and that’s the weight advantage of the KTM. I am not an influencer bro. I am just another guy who loves motorcycles and likes share about it with like minded people. Unlike influencers who get bikes from factory for days, I walk into a showroom, ride the bike and shoot these videos. Coming back to your point, I don’t see any reason why would RE get cast wheels on Himalayan. In fact no manufacturer makes 21” cast wheels. They might however bring a Scrambler on this platform, but that too “MAY” get cast wheels (there are 90% chances of it not getting cast wheels).

[@virajvrooms]

Experienced riders will have no problems on any bikes. So that argument doesn't count. The updated 390 will face similar drawbacks like the Himalayan. a larger front, skinny tyres and a top heavy design. It will always be a trade-off.

[@striker13390]

Kid, 21 inch alloy wheels do not exist.

[@godwinchelsea4244]

Tube tyre only best

[@amzzmazzrr]

Both bike's city mileage?

[@AbhishekSingh-oj3fq]

Brother please.... suggest which one is good in these two bike

[@FTRClub]

I’d personally pick the Himalayan any given day. The suspension, seat overall build quality is so much better on the Himalayan.

[@AbhishekSingh-oj3fq]

Thanks....what about vibrations and heating

[@FTRClub]

There’s no escaping vibrations from single cylinder bikes, but compared to the KTM, Himalayan has significantly lesser vibrations & it even heats up lesser. Until the updated Adv is launched, with the bigger engine, Himalayan will continue to be a better option among the two. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.

[@AbhishekSingh-oj3fq]

Tell me.... should have wait for...new adv or go for hima450

[@FTRClub]

2 things to know: 1. There’s no timeline known to anyone about the launch of the updated Adv 390. It has been spied testing since April 2023. It’s over a year now. 2. Even if the 390 is launched in a few months, it will be a lot more expensive. I am suspecting that on-road prices will begin from 4.75 (current model with the electronics package starts at 4.54L). KTM might not build an “X” version at all, unless the sales numbers are low. If you aren’t in a rush and if you have the budget, you can wait for the updated 390. Else you can get the Himalayan. Trust me you won’t regret.

[@MiniClipsZone]

Sir please help i want a realibe and comfortable bike , that can run long term with good maintenance which should i pich Him 452 or KTM x ? 💕✨

[@FTRClub]

Sorry to put it this way, but KTM will start showing problems much sooner. Since the bike can be ridden hard, you will use the brakes a lot more and the brake pads won’t last more than 6-7,000 kms. Stock chain sprocket and clutch plates usually have a life of max 12-15,000 kms. The engine produces so much vibration that the plastic part surrounding the headlight assembly breaks off (result of poor engineering). Himalayan is still new and it needs atleast another 3-4months to prove its reliability. If you are not in a rush, then I’d say please wait for a few months. Hopefully the updated 390 Adventure will also be out by then. If you aren’t very particular about 40bhp or more, try the Suzuki VStrom SX250. It’s a lovely motorcycle which can tour at 115-120 all day long and the engine is bulletproof

[@MiniClipsZone]

@@FTRClub Thankyou so much sir for the efforts and being honest 💕🫂, helps a lots to take the decision.

[@saikat_sarkar]

What about the tube tyre issue? Why u dont count this as a major issue.

[@FTRClub]

Well, I did speak about it but while editing somehow I had clipped that part. My bad. I understand it could be a dealbreaker for many buyers. I’ve been living with tube type tires on my Xpulse’s since last 2 years and never had I gotten a puncture across 12,000+ kms riding in city or highways or during terrible off-roading. The KTM-X gets tubeless tires but the grip from those MRF’s isn’t something to brag about. The RE gets tube-type but the grip from the new Ceat rubber is exceptional.

[@Nature59099]

very nice review

[@FTRClub]

I am glad you liked it. 🙏🏼

[@JeevanShivanna]

Hi FTR club, If my requirement is one ride of 2000-2500km once in an year. 1000-1500km ride yearly twice and Rides in rains + offroads like Manali to Leh + too many hair pin curves. Actually long rides for all scenarios whether 390 adventure or 390 adventure X is better ? What do you suggest ?

[@FTRClub]

Hi Buddy, If you aren’t in a rush then I’d recommend you to wait for the updated 390 Adventure. It will have a more powerful and usable engine. Sadly I am not a big fan of the current engine on the 390. Due to poor low end torque, that engine needs a lot of downshifting plus the suspension is equally hard. Having said that, although the Himalayan is a bit heavy and makes lesser power, that engine is more usable than the one of the KTM. If you are inclined more towards the KTM then it’s worth waiting for the upgraded model

[@JeevanShivanna]

@@FTRClub Hey, Thanks for the reply. I'm planning to buy in a month. Every 2 years, new bike with better specs or fine tuning on existing bikes will be keep on happening. So, not planning to wait. So for my requirement, what would be better choice ? Adv standard or standard X ? NOT planning for adventure spokes version, bcos don't want to take risk on punctured tyres (is this thought process correct? )

[@FTRClub]

@JeevanShivanna if you are okay with the black and white display and a bike without electronics, go with the X version. I personally prefer a bike with least electronics.

[@JeevanShivanna]

@@FTRClub , Thanks Buddy.😊 For answering all questions patiently. One last question, If I take adventure X, i wouldn't miss on below ? 1. Traction control 2. Suspension - some videos says it's downgraded (big piston) As informed, I plan for ride from Bangalore to Leh/Ladakh, considering national highways and those off roads on route to Leh from Manali, would I miss suspension which comes in standard adventure? I have Unicorn, so any bike above 250 feels like awesome. But buying after long time for longer rides so checking more. Please don't be irritated for questions, we get very less professional advices in this field.

[@FTRClub]

@@JeevanShivanna The Traction Control is a good to have feature, but not mandatory. Even on my Z900 I keep the TC turned Off. Suspension is the same on the X and the Standard variant. Only the SW variant gets adjustable suspension and I can guarantee more than 99% of the SW would have never ever turned the suspension by even one click. I have an Xpulse Rally and I have never ever felt the need to fiddle around with the clickers on the suspension. The only sore point on the X version is the switchgear. I hope KTM has already fixed it. I hope this helps. And please don't hesitate to ask whatever doubt you have on your mind. The reason I make this videos is to be able to help fellow bikers like you, with whatever knowledge and experience I have.

[@zayview]

Hi brother, I am 39 years old and height 5.7...i never had single bike in my life..i have Honda Activa and car ... I m planning to travel on long distances...plz suggest me one bike . Himalayan or ktm390 which one is better for me.

[@FTRClub]

At 5’ 7” KTM will be challenging due its seat height. Moreover, since you have never owned a bike, the 390’s brutal power response can make riding a bit too intimidating and it does get new riders in trouble. Considering all these, I’d recommend you get the Himalayan. Also, please test ride the Triumph Scrambler 400X as well. It’s a lovely beginner friendly bike.

[@mihirl1]

im a new rider looking for tall looking bike should i go for himalayan over adv x?

[@px6497]

Did you test ride scrambler 400 as well

[@FTRClub]

I won’t recommend the Adv X (atleast for now) coz of the build quality issues. My closest friends own both the Adv-X and the one with full electronics package. The small plastic part alongside the headlight assembly breaks away in no time. The switches are worse than an XL Super. The passenger grab rail can’t be used to lift the rear of the bike else it breaks the internal assembly holding it. There are many such issues. If you are looking for city and occasional highway runs, get the Triumph Scrambler 400-X. However, if you are into off-roading a lot (like me), I’d recommend the Himalayan. I’ve posted a separate video on the Himalayan where I’ve covered all the positives and negatives. You can take it a look at it on the channel. At the offering price, Himalayan is definitely a steal. I hope this helps.

[@FTRClub]

Yes I have but sadly, GoPro being what it is, it just didn’t record the entire footage. 😒😞

[@svaralen]

A really beautiful bike RE 450!!! Do you think it is beginner friendly? Thank you ✌️

[@FTRClub]

Compared to the KTM, the Himalayan is a lot more friendlier and forgiving for newer riders. The power delivery is smooth. The KTM on the other hand is like someone punching on the face each time you twist your right wrist.

[@ronnie.b31]

I own a 390X switch is pretty decent good fit n finish

[@prashantha_k]

This was a good narrative vlog wells done . I am planning to purchase the Adv X this week ! Only for the tubeless tires . I currently own Himalayan 411 although it's a good machine I am sick and tired of getting a puncture once a month or two . And I am planning to sell this and go for a tubeless Adv motorcycle. I was hoping for Himalayan 450 being tubeless but it never launched for the Indian market . Any tips for the purchase of Ktm 390 Adventure X ! Much appreciated if you give me some . My main riding style would be 90 % of highway and roads . 10% would be offroad 😅

[@FTRClub]

Your usage seems primarily for highways and currently there’s no other bike offering more value and capable for measuring the length and breadth of the country other than the 390. The good thing about X is that it doesn’t get unnecessary electronics and since it has the same engine as the top spec model, it can cruise at 120-130 all day long without any drama. The updated model’s launch is just around the corner but I am doubtful that KTM will bring an X version with the new model. Go ahead with the Adv-X brother. Trust me you won’t regret it

[@sahilahmad6344]

I dont have much experience in riding a bike. Looking to buy my first bike.. should i go for the himalayan 452 ?( I'm 5'8 and 58kg)

[@uniformuniverse]

Triumph 400 will suit best.

[@FTRClub]

Yeah Triumph will suit you better. Himalayan’s weight can get a bit overwhelming. And bro, don’t mind me saying it, but you need to gain some weight.

[@virajvrooms]

Depends on your age. If you are in your 20s. Just buy a used KTM 390 adventure and own it until you are capable to handle ADVs. Participate in off road events of KTM ProXP. You still have a lifetime to experience biking ahead. If you are in 30s and just starting your biking journey then Go for the scrambler 400. You still have a good amount of time to experience biking but then ensure you don't hurt yourself. If in 40s I would say buy two bikes. One a smaller spare bike to hone your skills and an ADV to enjoy those skills. And please don't listen to these KZbinrs. You don't need to gain weight. The bikes are already 100+ kg. Practicing will increase your strength naturally. Lower your body weight better in your old age..

[@sahilahmad6344]

@@virajvrooms Thanks. I'm in my early 20s

[@abhishekpandit1290]

Purchage whatever you want and like dont think about weight When you become habitual everything is fine then it will be difficult only for 2-3 days

[@TheINDIAN]

Is the re engine smoother than the KTM by a big margin.how much smoother is it . Twin cam single cylinder 4 valve engines dont like low rpms anyways how low do you expect it to pull from . And why do you shift early in the first place, first gear does pull up to 30 kmph lugging it will never feel good. The re is still a bad spec with near 200 kg for a 450 with not much power the ktm is not that great also . Both are road bikes that can be used for casual off road . Dont you think India should have a bike that is close to a dakar rally bike spec with a twin cylinder engine with 160 kg weight . CF Moto mt 450 is the closest to what the Himalayan engine should have been but it's heavy.

[@FTRClub]

I agree with you are saying, but here’s my argument: 1. At lower revvs (below 6,000 rpm) yes, the RE engine is significantly smoother than the KTM. 2. Why would you need to downshift to 1st gear each time you cross a traffic light at slow speeds (not talking about a complete halt to 0kmph)? Why can’t the engine sustain 2nd gear without knocking for speeds up to 30kmph. 3. Let’s not expect Street Triple type lightweight nature in budget/affordable motorcycles. All these “Affordable Adventure” bikes on sale in India, from Xpulse to Himalayan to KTM are quite heavy for the power they make (KTM having a significant power to weight advantage for sure). 4. I am not aware of any twin cylinder motorcycle that currently races in Dakar Rally. They are all single cylinder. With the quest to make bikes affordable/approachable manufacturers are compelled not to use high quality components which are lightweight. But yeah, there’s no denying that RE could have worked on keeping overall weight of the new Himalayan well upto 180 kgs.

[@TheINDIAN]

@@FTRClub using 2nd gear below 30 kmph is to low a speed for a twin cam single to pull. For such low rpm pull u need more cylinders. Or valve deactivation using 2 valves for such low rpm pull. It's disappointed to see that re made a 450 that's so heavy. They just don't care for the rider when you drop the bike with luggage and try pulling it up and when your body gives up you are going to regret. Without guards its near 200 kg . Why do we have such bad lazy engineering. A 450 cc engine that has less power than a 375 cc engine. That to a single cylinder in 2023.

[@___SSS___]

@@TheINDIAN be vocal for local or change your name 😂😂😂

[@TheINDIAN]

@@___SSS___ be local then

[@FTRClub]

Absolutely. There’s nothing wrong asking for better quality just coz it’s local. Local can be as impressive as international, if there’s a good intent behind it.

[@pranjalipranjali2751]

2:40

[@FTRClub]

What’s at 2:40 brother? 🤔🤔

[@pranjalipranjali2751]

i liked choice of your words..."its toxic"@@FTRClub

[@FTRClub]

Hehehe thanks a lot brother. 🙏🏼 I keep looking at the video, trying to figure out what am I missing 😄😄

[@sharath17385]

Himalayan is top heavy and unreliable. Right now, 5-6 riders in my group have either half engine replaced or the timing chain kit replaced, one guy has got full engine replaced. This is apart from the coneset and chassis issues. The engine tappet n valve noise is just unbearable in few H450 bikes. I mean the quality is not consistent, it's a hit or a miss. The QC levels of Himalayan is still not upto the mark, but they will get there eventually. Till then getting a KTM is your best bet.

[@FTRClub]

Would you mind sharing what went wrong that the complete engine had to be replaced?

[@amishagrawal47]

Asia lag raha hai plane main aagae hai and pilot sahab Bol rahe hai 😮

[@FTRClub]

Actually mainey realise nahi kiya, but aap sahi bol rahe ho. Abhi khud hi suna to laga ki waakai main koi flight ka captain bol raha hai. 😂😂

[@amishagrawal47]

@@FTRClub so true bhai 😅😅

[@FTRClub]

@amishagrawal47 microphone hi kachra hai 😂😂

[@Ride_with_uv]

finally someone spilling out the beans for KTM, I have test driven both for some long Kms and I have never been a fan of KTM even tho all of that power is available at hand, am a heavy built rider even the seating is not so confortable on KTM

[@riderhunt]

Great Ur review was awaited Now will have to wait further of KTM Adv versions 😂

[@FTRClub]

😄😄 I too am waiting for the updated Adv 390. Some new spy shots are floating the internet & the test mule looks nearly production ready. I am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏽 😄

[@Gouthamhegde]

I guess this comparison is biased in favor of Himalayan . 1) KTM is 20 Kgs lighter than the Himalayan- ask any experience rider what a big difference that it. 2) Even Himalayan has no juice below 4K RPM. 3) KTM handles way better than Himalayan in every given condition and way more agile. 4) KTM can do both city and highway duties with ease , Himalayan is very tough to maneuver in City. 5) KTM has no issues in ergonomics like Himalayan, where foot pegs will foul with your calf muscle. No doubt Himalayan is a very good bike , but KTM is better , and Himalayan's price is 30 to 50K more than what it should have been.

[@FTRClub]

It’s the weight advantage of the KTM coz of which I too am waiting for the updated Adv 390 to be launched. Ofcourse it will be a lot more expensive than the Himalayan, but it’s worth every penny. And if KTM pulls out an X variant, without all the electronics that would definitely eat up Himalayan sales.

[@puneethgowda2137]

Silkboard to electronic City 😂😂

[@FTRClub]

it's opposite actually. It's from ECity to Silk board 😂😂😂😂

[@abrezmirza453]

Ktm has much power than himalayan 450

[@yogeshvishen]

Days are completely changed …RE is offering least vibration than KTM Fit and finish and plastics quality is better in RE than KTM 21 inch is better than any 19 inch ktm Adventure means good Suspension, its not a track bike to have a stiff suspension or KtM should change the name to KTM RC 390 adventure More ground clearance being lower in seat height.

[@FTRClub]

KTM RC 390 Adventure name would be hilarious :D :D