Megadeth - Holy wars... the punishment due (Guitars only)

[@ianh6845]

3:25

[@geraldorodriguew3605]

The only part of this song I can play :-)

[@gamesandguitars3901]

Ian H YOU ARE A GOD SEND! This is the only part I cant play right now and i wanted to learn it by ear

[@ianlongshore]

Hey ian

[@S-A-CCL]

1:27 That fucking riff... one of the best riffs ever written if you ask me

[@Copp.r]

I know right, this might be the singular riff that gets me into megadeth.

[@clw5746]

Just learned it today, it's so fucking good

[@_ProTrax]

That riff gives me a reason to live

[@kps393]

For real man its sooo good and under rated

[@BURNOUT3272]

I’ve been saying this foreverrrr

[@ShiningTrapezoid]

Playing this and singing at the same time is bonkers

[@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051]

yea i try it all the time. it is so very difficult

[@omardamian6792]

Shining Trapezoid it’s super easy. My voice sucks for singing tho :(

[@bandolierboy1908]

It’s not even that hard

[@DanielLightspeedMcNair]

just gotta practice it until your hands get into muscle memory, which shouldn’t take long since the verse riffs are some of the most fun, rhythm-based riffs ever, and then learn where the notes sync up with words, and you’ll have it.

[@bandolierboy1908]

@@DanielLightspeedMcNair You explained it 10x better than I could ever explain it! I'm also glad i'm not the only one who understands the whole "notes sync up with the words" approach. It seems like a lot of people try to have 2 separate brains when playing this, one for the guitar and one for the vocals...I tried the 2 separate brains approach at first and got totally lost. When singing and playing this song, I noticed its not good to see the vocals and guitar as 2 separate entities because nothing will match up in your head if you try to see them as separate, and when you switch your focus between the two while playing. But when you see the vocals and guitar as one entity (in other words, seeing where the words sync with the notes and just letting your hands do the work), it's so much easier to pull off.

[@bengalsbay4079]

That clarity. Shiiiiit! Mustaine's hands have magic.

[@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051]

you could say his hands have five magics

[@scottvelez3154]

@@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051 Give me alchemy!

[@AdamRobertshaw]

Interesting you say that, I actually was surprised how sloppy the guitars sound in the isolated track compared to the final mix. I think it's Dave Ellefson who actually brings the real clarity to this song! Check out the bass+drums only live version, think it's Menza and Ellefson - sounds incredible!

[@phantomlord5707]

Adam Robertshaw Eleffson is a bass GOD.

[@drfeelgordo]

@@AdamRobertshaw I agree, it wasn't as tight. I was hearing the little inconsistencies they threw me off when trying to learn by ear as a kid. Martyb though is clean

[@5150forevermore]

By the way the rhythms were all played with the full band. No click track/metronome. That's why it sounds so raw and energized. Just a pure gem of a metal song that will live on forever. 🤟

[@ghostamity5116]

4:38 the greatest use of a guitar ever

[@deego_e]

This comment should be the only one pinned here.

[@hitoshura7]

true, best part in holy wars

[@mandarbamane4268]

4:37 Exactly. Harmonics was known to me (when I heard this for 1st time), but this part got me, I thought wow Dave knows how to do his stuff

[@skorpionmvv]

I fucking love this tone

[@asmo_1929]

Well, it's not bad. But i feel the tone on Countdown to extinction is so much better

[@SkyfallHD36]

@@asmo_1929 said no one ever

[@asmo_1929]

@@SkyfallHD36 I wasn't speaking about the music, the sound quality is just better on Countdown to extinction

[@SkyfallHD36]

@@asmo_1929 of course mate

[@juancitoperez2856]

2:53 this part feels so empty without the bass, almost to the point that i can hear it automatically in my head.

[@user-go3nd6mw4e]

AJFA

[@Snavels]

@@user-go3nd6mw4e I dont think I'll ever understand the mixing process that went into that album, but I think it's a good example of why bass actually *is* important to metal. Ive also noticed that when people dial in their own guitar tone, they have way too much low end, I guess not realizing that the final mix tone they're replicating was achieved with adding Bass

[@wokevirushandsanitzer5300]

The guitars don’t have much low end. It’s needed to get all the good rhythmic action. I tried to play it with more low end and it’s just a muddy mess. The bass is very imperative. It’s not an easy song on bass. Ellefson is a monster. I just found a guy who covered this song with only fingers on bass. Utter insanity. “The bass channel” I think the channel is called. Look it up it’s seriously impressive. I can’t even play it properly with a pick on bass😂😂.

[@riverpb5250]

@@Snavels it was done to haze jason as flemming rasmussen said in a recent interview, lars told him to pretty much pull the volume of the bass as low as possible. flemming did have a "proper" mix, but he had to follow lars' orders, and at the end, the analogue tapes pretty much deteriorated and can never be recovered anymore

[@lucgoos3338]

Dont mind this comment, just using this to hopefully learn this song one day: 0:10 chuggy main riff with pauses (because fuck people who wanna learn this song right) 1:27 verse riff 2:13 acoustic solo 2:39 second main riff 4:36 harmonics riff

[@DzoniMakaroni]

I tried learning this today and I have one question: How the F U C K does he sing while playing this 1:27

[@DzoniMakaroni]

​@@NubsWithGuns It's been 3 years since the comment. I can play and sing it at the same time but it's still kind of uneasy. Props to Dave!

[@trvltrmmn]

@@DzoniMakaroni ма лаган си

[@Quantavious75]

@@DzoniMakaroniwow I love the update. Still got it?

[@DzoniMakaroni]

​@@Quantavious75 Nope. I just sing now, I couldn't play this without singing, let alone with lol

[@h_rocky417]

@@DzoniMakaronii actually find this one very easy than other less notes riff idk why

[@FaTaLKoNcEpT]

1:27

[@sethery7826]

best part

[@Maggiethegsd]

It's a brilliant riff

[@Keemo69420]

It´s when hands start to die in a horrific way

[@auroreriou5469]

2:26 dat riff 😍

[@morerandomcontent6856]

Ikr😩

[@Snavels]

Sounds like the riff was reused for Symphony of Destruction

[@Snavels]

@@_ProTrax It's called a joke buzzkill, I know my theory.

[@_ProTrax]

@@Snavels How was I supposed to tell that was a joke with the stupid shit people say on here

[@Snavels]

@@_ProTrax Yeah man you really aren't beating those buzzkill allegations. Getting all butthurt in the KZbin comment section 💀😭

[@morkeherrer2024]

I love so much this song and Dave's composition process.

[@JimbrasMermelevos]

2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15

[@breal1183]

So you're saying you want us to go to 2:15?

[@apartida123]

B Real Thinks so

[@apartida123]

2:20 lol

[@maj2809]

Marty's part

[@nc3057]

It's like Arabic music

[@5ub2ero]

Examining those kind of isolated tracks reveals more of the fact that how today's bands are influenced with their predecessors and build their sound and riffing on them. This tone and riffing alone, reminds me a lot of Lamb of God. Especially Sacrament album if to be specific.

[@EM-zj1xm]

2:27 my personal fav riff from this track. Doesn't sounds like a thrash metal thing to me. It has kinda doomy/melodic death metal vibe to it

[@Snavels]

Just my guess, but Dave apparently also loved it so much he made an entire song using it (Symphony of Destruction)

[@EM-zj1xm]

@@Snavels Yeah these riffs sound similar, but in Symphony of Destruction its too simplified and groovy, and to me it doesn't have that "dungeons and castles in an rainy autumn forest" otherworldly melody, lol! In other words, it doesn't sounds like mid 90s european metal. I hope you understand what I mean 😅

[@moratuwamaleke6923]

Greatest metal song ever written

[@jeremymiller1513]

Playing and singing this shit is awesome.

[@dangleeballsii8034]

So many different time stamps, so many great riffs in one song

[@thirteenthandy]

This is somehow less impressive than the isolated tracks from other bands I've been hearing. I think it's because the clarity and guitar focused nature of RIP didn't bury anything, it's all there to hear in its full majesty, so this isolated recording doesn't have that novelty. Still, a metal masterpiece right here.

[@thirteenthandy]

MrIceman967 Exactly. The album didn't hide the guitar to begin with, so the isolated tracks aren't mind blowing to me. The whole album is mind blowing as is. With the other isolated tracks to be found on KZbin (let's say And Justice For All for instance) the isolated tracks bring out things you never hear when listening to the album because the guitars lost clarity among everything else, so hearing them is almost like hearing the song for the first time. With the RIP tracks, it's more like "yep, that's the guitar. It's still amazing and perfect, but nothing new." It's a compliment to the original recording.

[@jsk8et]

Andy Oliphant I mostly agree but I think the places where they play 3rds instead of 5ths in the rhythm tracks are a little clearer when isolated. But yeah, this sound the most like the album even though it's guitars only for sure!

[@saiyaniam]

The guitars are very fuzzy and high pitched, the lack of lower register means there's less for you to listen to, thats why it seems weak

[@khubib14]

MrIceman967 do you know how to get a clarity in mix like u say? So when in mixed the guitar is still "clear" is that has something to do with EQ or what? I wanna record some song next few months

[@11DNA11]

@@thirteenthandy Megadeth did that earlier. It took me decades to figure out that Dave does pickscratches on Good Mourning/Black Friday. Saw him practice it live on some video and he did it there. Dug up the isolated guitar track and those things are there. Just buried under the mix, but you can hear them later once you know they're there.

[@danielstowe2838]

It just sound so raw

[@bumsi7046]

think this is a studio rough mix

[@tidymilk5162]

@@bumsi7046 no sir. this is the guitar track ripped from the final studio mix.

[@rustyrattle5776]

this song is filled with insane riffs, like seriously, it’s too fucking hard to pick one

[@ewan_mclean]

When you have a song where every riff is called “the greatest metal riff ever,” it’s safe to say that you have the best metal song ever created

[@Scrubermensch]

4:37 the actual pay off for the slower part. Mustaine went apeshit at this one, very rarely he did use gallop picking back then.

[@Samford_]

lol that’s like the easiest part of the song

[@dampcarpet2607]

All of devil’s island is galloping

[@timmmmmm274]

he used it plenty lmao, just off the top of my head i can think of chosen ones, mechanix, wake up dead, the conjuring, devils island, 502, five magics, and there’s probably a crap ton more

[@asukalangleysoryu6695]

What the fuck are you talking about, bitch?

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@Samford_its like when someone who doesnt play guitar sees eruption and thinks the tapping is hard…

[@mcathawk1490]

Brilliant masterpiece of metal

[@stimit46]

Verse riff is just something else

[@federicoinnocente]

Marty Friedman is underrated on his riff skills

[@vinto34]

This is kick ass to the highest extent.

[@davebloodkiss]

For me the best line up of megadeth

[@ma5terwarfare]

That tone and that playing!

[@alicemarga9906]

I love bass and drums, but it's a bless to hear this guitar track.

[@Midlanflyguy]

Was watching a video of Dave Mustaine showing how he plays this and he just makes it look effortless.

[@apartida123]

2:49 my fav riff in this whole song

[@Dewitt-b8n]

Dave's picking attack is spot on. James is right up there. Both play spider chords which was something Dave came up to limit slider up the neck for certain chord progression.

[@sainandanramakrishnan4812]

James doesn't play the spider chord, its Dave's patented technique. Dave also does a lot of other crazy stuff on the rhythm. James is known for his godly down-picking on the other hand tho.

[@cdsmetalhead99]

@Sainandan Ramakrishnan No it's not Dave's "patented technique," nor it is even that innovative. I pretty much discovered it myself learning Symptom of the Universe when I first started playing guitar.

[@sainandanramakrishnan4812]

+cdsmetalhead99 Doesn't matter, it was still badass, point being it was just a small sample of the genius metal musicians that was Dave and Megadeth.

[@georgewootten4428]

@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Hah literally on the other hand

[@avocadocommander]

Im probably should've talk here bcz of my name but this song still gorgeous with guitars only

[@cat_bicycle12]

Not all people who listen to Megadeth hate Metallica. Your welcome here as much as anyone else.

[@jlf6458]

@@cat_bicycle12 I just like metal, so I listen to both.

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

welcome Mr. Death, creep here all you want :)

[@williamkoscielniak820]

I think a lot of us here are fans of Metallideth.

[@sirspongadoodle]

You should speak english better

[@punishmentforall]

Would Dave have played and recorded separate rhythm and lead tracks in the studio?

[@Cam_1776]

Yea

[@rockrenegade]

According to Dave, he would record two rhythm tracks one panned left, one panned right and have the second guitarist do one single rhythm track up the center.

[@punishmentforall]

Fragmenta Official - Interesting ... thanks.

[@TheGrimReaper54321]

Thats a really good mixing technique

[@rockrenegade]

Yeah, it's fairly unique to Megadeth as well. I don't know many if any other bands that do it that way. Most have one guitarist do all the rhythm tracks (Metallica, Slayer after Divine Intervention) One player on the left and one player on the right (Slayer before Divine Intervention, Slipknot) or the Morrisound way which is to have both guitarists do one left and right rhythm track each (Death - Human, Sepultura - Beneath The Remains).

[@SantiagoSkywalker98]

Could you post only the Dave Musatine track of this epic song? Greetings from Peru!!! lml #AguanteMegadeth

[@alvarojoseph3576]

6:16 soo stong, so massive

[@marquitobach7213]

Totally

[@ivancarrera1084]

2:14 - 3:25 - 4:19 - 4:53

[@shanes.1724]

Badass. That opening riff sounds like a swarm of pissed off hornets

[@Lakers-vs-Celtics]

This shit so badass it don’t even need vocals

[@зот]

The most badass shit I've ever listened to

[@rakis17]

1:27 🤟💀

[@luminate5527]

Learning this is brutal af

[@2bookoo4u]

Awesome song!!!!

[@williamkoscielniak820]

Out of all of the isolated guitar tracks I've been listening to lately, this one sounds the most like the actual song. As if nothing much is missing. I guess that just shows how Mustaine oriented this song is.

[@ali965]

3:27 My soul just left my body

[@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051]

dave mustain is a true god

[@pabloslave1]

Perfection

[@chasehunley3019]

The first verse riff is crazy

[@Hoscitt]

* Guitars and chimes. 😁

[@Alpha_Arcade]

You know its a good song when you can remove instruments from the song without making it sound worse

[@syer3789]

5:01 (solo practice)

[@apositron84]

It's so much fun to play once you get it down. It's not easy though! Especially noise control on verses.

[@petrhofmann3776]

Spider chords at hand!

[@DOMEDARK37]

0:25 Many guitar covers play this riff wrong. (0-0-----5-7)

[@elianbaez1835]

1:34 que buen riff dios santo

[@NahumSaibot14]

Lo mismo dije yo, es buenísimo

[@Skrillful]

And Justice For David

[@flowerinthedawn1]

Notice the low end, they didn't just blindly took out the lows,

[@conradblack2504]

Why is the bell tree still in there? Goddam liars!

[@superandresr]

Jason Johnston I thought the same thing

[@Crowbar11115]

It's SUPER common for Producers to consolidate tracks like that. You'll often find Guitar Solos are actually part of the Lead Vocal track.

[@mackenroll6914]

1:27 so fucking good.

[@caraibiguitar]

GREAT!!!!!

[@symbolic261293]

Dat mustaine solo

[@MikaRafelloGuitar]

The first song ilearned by ear!

[@1jimbojam]

Hi , love this, ....any chance you could link my to Train of Consequences with just guitar?

[@Greg780]

Late reply but here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXvZY4x7gbyLqsU

[@andrewweber9930]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@pirellip-zero7042]

3:46 my favorite🔥

[@codiediscover]

Que deleite. Bacanisimo

[@timetoplayguitar3994]

why is no one talking about last solo

[@sirspongadoodle]

Its just a generic pentatonic scale

[@jamesmustaineanselmo2782]

4-37 - 4-47 SuperFishka!

[@Cerdansantiago]

2:15

[@bryceheath222]

0:45 that lick is so tasty

[@cooperguitar1709]

1:33 Posting this to repeat to this point to try and learn by ear

[@xenounde0]

e B

[@sundukpaketovich5294]

1:27 я это сыграть то кое как только могу, а рыжий ещё и поёт при этом, ну мужик, одним словом - еврей

[@baeshev]

Не, ну риф лёгкий, но петь под него это пиздец

[@Krzztl]

i swear i can hear the other instruments yet they’re clearly not there

[@metalmaster6999]

What bpm is that track pls?

[@yesnickcarter]

46 and 2

[@dirtymuleracing5321]

4.40

[@Your_guitar123]

0:04

[@faf9087]

5:39

[@alex9046]

lol every riff has its own comment here saying it's the best riff ever

[@_ProTrax]

Stretch it out over the rest of the album and that's Rust in Peace

[@GalacticCenterOG]

I don’t see one for drums & guitar… the only 1 you haven’t done it looks like lol.

[@muri6853]

Tbh i like the fast part of the song more precisely the beginning before the acoustic breakdown

[@guzaldeniz1856]

BASS

[@johnp82]

Could you imagine James Hetfield circa 1986-1988 singing on this track? How awesome would that sound.

[@Maggiethegsd]

This would be actually true if mustaine remained in metallica, and after all he was lead and james was rhythm so james would sing and play this!! How cool!!

[@user-el6lt8fr3x]

Maggiethegsd too bad mustaine never got a second chance

[@kenousti190]

Would been fucking epic and badass

[@Qthetar]

It would be too good for their talentless arse

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@user-el6lt8fr3xoh shut up… megadeth is far better than talica

[@masb1141]

Demoníaco

[@ryangreene50]

2:27 are they power chords or single notes he’s playing? Single notes with the open e string? I can’t figure out how to get that sound

[@liamo8769]

Open E string and singles 2/3 on the A I’m pretty sure

[@lucastadeo2992]

1:29 FUCKING EVIL SOUND!!!!

[@leinad2934]

How did you extract the guitars from the track?

[@ocaldini]

Guitar hero track probably

[@apartida123]

Rico MegaSuper yeah without gh ots extremely difficult to get to the guitars by itself

[@avocadocommander]

Guitar hero he could've actually re recorded the guitar parts

[@bumsi7046]

@@avocadocommander studio rough mix

[@qwerqwer-yx2vr]

5:19 Dave Mustaine

[@cracker4326]

Thats right!

[@Your_guitar123]

0:10

[@SAARussian]

Where did you get it?

[@catparrotking5182]

How did you do that

[@IlIIlMomo]

Guitar hero

[@Your_guitar123]

0:1

[@marcinmcula99]

How many rhythm tracks are there?

[@thrashssjgod]

4 i assume

[@israppleraglobalistgroup2270]

I hate this guitar tone but the composition is godly

[@Itsshaunbewarned]

God this is so good without dave mustaine's pop singing

[@lukreo1]

3:27 4:21

[@josenava3183]

Yo WTF! 3:25 This is the first time I notice that riff that goes with the solo

[@xuhan9976]

2:14 3:25 4:19 4:54