Why The Best Engineers ALWAYS Leave FAANG

[@RahulPandeyrkp]

Our 3rd collab in 3 years :) See you all in 2024...

[@vulpixelful]

They leave the gold rush to sell shovels

[@AlexSuperTramp-]

Clement wasn't even a software engineer for two years..

[@heyaswinp]

Exactly lol. Math undergrad -> Bootcamp -> 2 years in google. (Not even a Senior Engineer). Started selling courses on joining those companies.

[@daves4986]

Seriously, why do so many early-career software engineers pivot out of engineering into selling courses 😂 I can literally learn this stuff for free on the Internet 🤑

[@levelup2014]

@@daves4986 because the money is insane that’s why I’d do it to

[@dnd90]

I agree on many points in the video. Ironically both of these people built a company that is basically feeding of FAANG 🙂. If everybody would run their own company, there would be no FAANG and in turn there would be no customers for AlgoExpert and Taro :shrug

[@thesoftwareman]

Agree with the learning potential not being as great. I think everyone should see both sides: work at a high growth startup AND FAANG. Usually I see folks that start their career at one, end up transitioning to the other. Then they spend a lot of time there building their career.

[@eforeyerman]

Yeah as a software engineer with 11 years of experience, I don’t see all of the “best” engineers leaving to start their own business. Even if you’re really smart and have a really novel idea and work really hard, going into entrepreneurship is always a risky endeavor. For every tech KZbinr who you see who left their big tech job to start their own company, how many did it and failed. Some folks favor stability and are big tech lifers. Yes you can potentially make more money starting your own company, but when you’re an E6 at Meta making $700 K TC, how much more money do you need? :)

[@secondthread-uc9bd]

true , some people just exactly want a chill job and have time for other stuff in life rather than chasing money , and faang seems to be a good way to do that .

[@bobkameron]

This video definitely resonates with me. I’m at Amazon as a software engineer and am currently working to build the technical / business acumen to do my own tech startup or at least be self employed.

[@MrFromminsk]

I disagree with the title entirely. The title should be "why engineers with entrepreneurial mindset start new businesses". There are plenty of startups founded by people who never worked for the big corp tech.

[@clem]

What topics should we cover in our next collab? 👀

[@sunny__rai]

Remote work

[@morkallearns781]

Your work experience.

[@skyhappy]

How to know when you should leave your job for that idea you've been working on

[@wonderfulworldofmarkets9033]

Honest discussion about future of breaking into FAANG after tech recession and massive layoffs

[@coderlicious6565]

How to put past a stressful bad 40-hour work week of your software dev 9 to 5 you dislike, and just work on your biz at night and weekends.

[@norcal9706]

I meet some awesome people and got to work on some cool projects having worked at two FAANG companies. But I sacrificed my health due to the work requirements in order to do so. I found much happiness and peace after I left. Not to shame anyone that is still in it but look after yourselves is the lesson I learned when I got laid off

[@19adhin]

I recently discovered your channel and have been binge watching your videos. The ones I find most interesting are the ones where you get technical. For someone in my position (4 YOE) I learn a lot and it gives me things to think about as I advance in my career.

[@displog]

You can have crazy impact (and crazy income) in FANG when you get to staff+. It's ridiculous just how many millions of $ the company puts in implementing your designs at that point. Both Rahul and Clement left Big Tech after just 3-4 years, which is just enough to escape the early-career engineer classification. I'll say this: the best engineers grow their influencing and project/service/risk management skills so they can meaningfully effect positive change. The ones who leave FAANG early don't want to grow what it takes to get out of their comfort zones.

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

I would the ones who are scared about the technical abilities or their ability to successfully execute on their own ideas stay comfortably in FAANG. Not a knock but if you are well fed and happy at staying at that level for the foreseeable future, fine. But the real go getter should only use FAANG as a stepping stone to make their mark in the startup field.

[@tehama4321]

Glad to see you two making another set of videos together.

[@rubberducky5990]

they leave faang so that they can sell their own courses on how to crack faang. it is a pyramid scheme. the other way to make money as faang is to become Instagram star selling life in a day story. we have more faang leetcoders than real software engineers. talking about impact is bs. they can make open source contribution. how is running a KZbin channel better than writing a new emulator. this is hustle non sense fooling new grads. Clement made money during sde gold rush selling shovels from non tech to Google sde in 6 months. while rahul has real credentials unlike Clement, he is late to the party. senior engineers are not going to fall for a herd mentality product.

[@vulpixelful]

This is so true 😂 Content creators are self-selecting for people who have a hard time, uh, "playing well with others", to an extent. But you need those kind is skills to contribute meaningfully to open source. Eventually you can't own your schedule if your project becomes the bedrock of multimillion dollar companies. The project would be forked and your original one abandoned if you failed to keep up the maintenance or let security vulnerabilities linger. We have enough interview prep courses. We need engineers to help work on problems like green energy. If they are independently wealthy from working in Big Tech and investing, all the better.

[@morkallearns781]

Glad people are calling out Rahul on featuring Clement. Disappointing from him.

[@markusingvarsson2146]

what is your point? they are delivering great value and this video is absolutely free. and so what if they monetize the products they build? their products are great tools, but yes they might not help you if you are a barista who hate to code. sorry if you got pursuaded by those instagram videos.

[@rubberducky5990]

@@markusingvarsson2146 they are creating a generation of bad engineers. what will Clement with less than two years of experience tell about software engineering? that there is real money in running a scam? as long as you crack faang, you can start your own scam after a year? what is the value that they are generating? where is software engineering in the equation? is it even computer science? these are also the areas Clement isn't even aware of. it is sad to see Rahul calling these kind of people in the channel.

[@EDEdDNEdDYFaN]

Cool video. One follow on thought - there isn't really anything that would have stopped you from talking to the sales teams at Facebook if you really wanted to right? It could have been a mutually beneficial Convo to have if you went out of your way to chat with them and find out pain points that you could help address

[@RahulPandeyrkp]

That's true, I definitely could have been more proactive in reaching out to non-engineers. But it does become hard since our organizations were so far apart, and I was busy enough with my own projects and deadlines.

[@skyhappy]

@@RahulPandeyrkp If you did want to talk to the sales team, would it make more sense to take on a project that would involve talking to them? And if so, would that mean the project is ambiguous so only senior+ people would have access to do such projects?

[@dejanualex]

Hmmm, I'm wondering tho' if a distinguished engineer (e.g Jeff Dean) is reaching the outlier outcome ?

[@samirneupane7563]

The fact is Clement himself left the google and selling course how to get into google 🤣🤣.

[@zoellazayce6796]

Yikes, I'm kind of disappointed that you brought in Clement. He's been embroiled in youtube drama with Joma and Tech Lead> Also he's only been working as a SWE for 2 years, and his advice videos seems very click baity and not actually useful. I figured you knew more experienced people, instead of this tech-influencer who's selling shovels to a tech goldmind. His business isn't that great, I thought you'd knew more people with successful or experienced startups.

[@zachary_thomas]

FWIW, Nvidia engineers who stayed at the firm over the last decade+ made millions

[@RahulPandeyrkp]

Nvidia has a good chance to be a multi-trillion dollar company soon

[@ifetube9561]

And it is now

[@debabrataacharjee7230]

I think once you have faang companies on your resume , you can take risks and go on to more adventurous endeavours. In case want to get to faang and get in a position like that after few years , here is a detailed guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmW1pZ6Km6ihqqs

[@gaofan2856]

Can I replace someone who wanna leave FAANG? I already appreciate the amount of money I am gonna earn. I live in Tokyo, and sad thing is Google and Amazon are the only 2 FAANG companies which have engineer teams in Japan. And if you happen to fail interview once, then they not gonna select you maybe next 6-12 months and call you for interviews. And they also hire only once a year. So, if you ever thought that Japan is good place to work, think twice. The rest of companies not gonna pay you even close what Amazon or Google paying. So, if you wanna big tech and good salary - better not come to Japan

[@vaibhavaggarwal6591]

Great video. Had the same thought today morning. One more thing I like to add is delayed reward. I can work hard today but I only gain during reviews.

[@skyhappy]

Reviewing is has such a high return on time spent. A few mins of review can refresh your memory on 2 hours of content. One person in a youtube comment said he did 500 leetcode problems and that if you don't review, you might as well not even do leetcode. I agree.

[@morkallearns781]

Very disappointed you're giving a platform for someone who is a part of the con... Clement wasn't even an SE for two years.

[@19adhin]

Did he ever say why he left Meta after 3 months?

[@skyhappy]

paid version of AlgoExpert also sucks compared to free Neetcode, based on a vid I saw of how AlgoExpert sucks. Neetcode has helped me so much on understanding problems

[@tarik_hello]

Hey! I host a podcast where I interview exceptional people to give advice to the average person. I have recently had on Scott Hanselman who is a well known figure in the tech industry. What would be the best way to contact you to have you on the podcast?

[@RahulPandeyrkp]

feel free to message me through Twitter or LinkedIn

[@davidardo4466]

Teacher math is important for web dev?

[@rajathnayak5624]

yes student

[@19adhin]

No, you should be fine with basics.

[@nammi895]

Leaving FAANG in August for exact same reasons

[@SuboptimalEng]

Unless you work at hardware companies like Nvidia. Then your best bet is to stay there forever 😂

[@RahulPandeyrkp]

Nvidia is such a beast of a company

[@Maxim6431]

0:17 "Almost everyone who enters BigTech within few years end up leaving" This video seems to be build on a false premise. Can I see the source of that data? Leaving where, to other BigTech, is it actually leaving? I'm in BigTech myself and I can say it is filled with coasters / TC chasers and you made it seems like BigTech is filled with founders and entrepreneurs. Some people do retire after they make few mils but it is not like they all eager to build their own companies.

[@VeereshPradeep]

Clement looks so different with beard 😅

[@nuttygold5952]

and why do you need 10 million dollars?

[@rakL23058]

Rising cost of living

[@PS-ej2xn]

Dishonest tripe by FAANG leeches.

[@Sanyu-Tumusiime]

rahul stopped replying and reading comments after i roasted him 😭

[@njw6146]

he totally butchered that name lol, you could even say " that pronunciation cause Clament a lot of lament" popom tesss I'll see myself out