RR - VPR Premiere, Traitors, Bachelor, and Scandoval Dupes with Rayna Greenberg and Ciara Robinson

[@HalleLumsden]

I just want to say, I DEFINITELY mourned it just being me and my husband right after my baby was born. The first week was rough and I cried because of it, then cried more because I love my son and I felt sooooo guilty. But after about 3/4 weeks, more hormones even out and the routine started. Now I can’t even remember feeling like only 2 people in my small family. Lol I’m just happy I’m not alone

[@sheenakohli9828]

Can’t wait for River Rose to make an appearance!!

[@britlauren8149]

Natalie and Nick are both so well spoken and complement each other perfectly. Love when she’s on!

[@alpal7779]

Why is no one commenting on how Tom Sandoval was trying to get Ariana to marry him and make embryos with him which potentially they did. I understand why she wouldn't want to marry him but why was he wanting to marry her if everything was so awful all the time? That is a foul level of manipulation.

[@Mimi73161]

I had forgotten about that!!

[@alpal7779]

@@Mimi73161 right? It's wild. Why was everyone shocked when she says she could see herself having children now that she doesn't have a narcissist for a partner too? Did you feel that?

[@Mimi73161]

yes! I was in no way surprised that she is starting to view the world in a different way, she's finally starting to come out of the Fog ...iykyk🙃🙂

[@alpal7779]

@@Mimi73161 yessssss!

[@jennifergravitt7872]

I LOVE the Traitors! One of my top favorite shows for sure

[@clairecoburn1820]

Traitors is worth the hype! You must watch Season 1 and how it’s evolved. Waiting for a weekly episode is tough but there’s also seasons for UK and Aus.

[@Mimi73161]

I binged all the seasons of all the franchises! I love this show I did not think I would but it is addictive!!

[@sh.boogies]

What no one is saying about Tom's behavior during that interview is that HE WAS CLEARLY INTOXICATED AF

[@NouvelleZelande900]

Right? It's like sitting around analysing why the wasted guy at the party said and did such outrageous things - but, whhhhhy?! Because he was wasted.

[@WishboneKeegan]

absolutely; also sounds like a guy who started drinking at an early age and has stayed at that teen emotional level (which is what happens with alcoholics)

[@camtown44]

This! I seems emotionally stunted to me and I'm shocked more people don't feel the same.@@WishboneKeegan

[@vittyvittybangbang]

for lala timeline… the reunion filmed late march. aired late may.. they started filming season11 around arianna’s bday in mid-late june.. so the call - tho yes should have been off camera imo - was *technically* lala seeing rachel’s final interview about one month before the call

[@SuziSPSquirrel]

Awesome interview with the Tom’s. Thank you Nick for asking the tough questions. It allowed to audience to see Tom Sandoval will never take accountability for anything he has done. Zero growth and he wonders why the audience won’t get over it? He is a man child. Blames everyone else.

[@soniaswim]

Omg Natalie!! I felt the EXACT same way ! Mourned not just being the two of us anymore and cried so much 😂😂😭 obvi the best blessing comes with it !! But I GET IT

[@courtneyluer]

Natalie literally working until she gives labor like it's nbd! Queen!

[@joanne8084]

I mean I guess sitting and talking is a job lol. I was working in a warehouse freezer when I was but I guess that doesn’t give off queen vibes like sitting around & gossiping 😂

[@carleystanton6386]

Every woman I'm related to worked in factories (building semi hubs/drums or building box trucks) until the day they went into labor. My aunt finished her shift then went to the hospital. It is a very normal thing.

[@courtneyluer]

@@carleystanton6386 everywhere ive worked the woman has left before giving birth so it's all I know! Seems like some changes need to be made in society to give women more time before birth!

[@courtneyluer]

a job is a job! @@joanne8084

[@joanne8084]

@@carleystanton6386 now that’s definitely badass queen vibes!

[@TheJaimers28]

Congratulations!!! She was born on my birthday, too. ❤❤ Go, River!

[@Kloves818]

I think people are so fond of Joey because he was their first option. Other seasons had arguably much better choices and the audience felt snubbed, so everyone went in to it with a "ugh why him" mentality. Joey's the first bachelor in recent times who stuck out in his season and is probably the best option they could have went with regarding Charity's men.

[@anamarquezkoch4392]

I don't see the finale as bullying, it was 9 months of being lied to, manipulated, and gas lighted by those two. BIG DIFFERENCE if they would've found out a month into it

[@brittanycampbell4507]

My baby is due in a week! Wishing you guys all the best for your labor/delivery!

[@chrissyg9576]

I love the Traitors!!! I also watched the UK and Australia ones. Love them all!!! ❤️❤️❤️💯

[@Hailzhoward]

Rayna!!! So happy to see my queen

[@chelleymarie2129]

I think what’s going to be hard about this season of VPR is that what we are watching is Ariana processing what happened to her just _months_ ago and comparing how she’s acting to what she’s done since then and is doing now and I don’t think that is fair. Sure she did DWTS and is on Broadway _now_ but S11 was filmed just a few months after all of this came out so they were all still reeling. So I don’t think it’s fair to say that Ariana is “leaning in” to her pain too much at that point and in the same breath saying she’s a millionaire and on Broadway because at that point, she wasn’t. She is NOW and she’s not spoken about Tom since the episode of DWTS that she had to. Everyone else (coughTOMcough) keeps her name in their mouths. IDK, I just think it’s really unfair to say and we need to keep the timeline of when this was filmed in mind.

[@jannettemorris7540]

Great episode so happy for u guys ❤

[@brightsidegirl]

Please watch and recap season one od traitors!!! It was so crazy good and the ending was insane 😂 would be a great thing to add to vial files + . So glad I started watching 👏

[@courtneyluer]

Also Rayna looks gorgg

[@DevoteddreamerD]

I understand not wanting to wish ill will on Tom Sandoval and wanting the best for him because we all want the best for everyone BUT…. Where I got annoyed with him in Nick’s interview with the Toms is that to me, behind all the cringe moments, he is being fake. There is a possibility that he does not feel true remorse for the pain he caused not only Ariana but his friend Tom, Scheana and well, everyone because he is so lost within his own despair. I think he is embarrassed and upset how his reputation has been stained along with perhaps professionally taking a hit. I think he feels bad for what happened to HIM. I think he is resentful for how he has been trashed and how she has risen up with the public and their dear friends in her corner - She literally has had a complete career glow up and I think he resents that. I could be wrong, obviously, but nothing he says makes me feel like he has done a deep dive into himself and soul searched into why he did this and thought about what it did to other people. For him to say get over it is beyond insensitive - it’s been 10 months!? The affair itself was 9 months - He stood there in their home, their sacred place, the place they took months to even find furniture for because it was SO important for them to make it perfect… he stood there laughing with Rachel and friends during get togethers in that home, knowing he had sex with her IN the home WHEN Ariana’s grandma passed away…. I mean WOW. 9 months of total and complete betrayal and she is supposed to just ‘get over it’ as he said and stop being petty when it comes to the sale of their house? It’s as if she should be grateful for the glow up. To give her a timeline of when HE thinks it is appropriate for her to ‘get over it’ shows to me that he has a lot of internal work to do as a human being and come back to a space of humility and grace. The audacity of his attitude toward her in that interview really speaks to who he is in this current moment and speaks to the lack of remorse he feels for her pain. THAT is why I think a lot of people are hating on him. I don’t think we should hate on anyone or bully anyone BUT I do hope he does some growth, feels true remorse and works on himself. Forgiveness will only be an option, I think, once he has done that work and is able to vocalize to those that matter, his regret and understanding of the gravity of the situation beyond his own despair - Not to say that anyone has to forgive him or should. I feel for him, it’s really tough to look in the mirror, strip yourself down of ego and do that work but he will be better for it. We are just humans out here with no manual and we often do really fucked up things to those we love… wishing him and all in that situation the very best. Side note, how he responded and talked to Natalie pissed me off, just saying… don’t be a dick.

[@sumar8111]

Well said!!!

[@msnyx823]

I’ve been listening to Rachel’s podcast, which has mostly presented Rachel’s side of the story. So, Nick’s characterisation of it is fair but it is not completely accurate. However, the real value and unique perspective has been the 2 episodes where she has a psychologist expert talk to her and explain various psychological models that help understand what happened on VPR and with Rachel. These episodes have been incredibly insightful. I’ve gotten more useful information from these experts than I’ve gotten from most other podcasts.

[@PNNYLN]

I think for anyone that’s been in a relationship with a narcissist, your interview with the Tom’s made them feel seen and somehow vindicated. I has been emotionally hard on him because a narcissist holds a very “interesting” view of themselves and they are so dedicated to that perception that everyone around them believes it to, this is only reinforced by being on reality tv. So to have who you really are exposed publicly, and realize he’s the only one that holds tickets to his own show is really hard BUT to still attempt to defend it and gaslight was so cringe to watch. Narcissism is really difficult to deconstruct, he may be in too deep to be free of it (it appears that way). Prayers for him, and major prayers for anyone who gets involved with him 🙏

[@eliz49]

I obviously missed the episode about the departure of Amanda. What happened!? She will be missed greatly

[@iamheatheranne]

Re: Rachel returning to VPR. If she came back, we don't know how they would edit her. Maybe she thinks being coerced by I Heart is less worse than VPR painting her in a bad light if they want? We assume we would be able to tell her story on VPR but maybe she wouldn't?

[@iron_Xtreme]

Nick your #1 skill on Special Forces was your ability to lie during that interrogation challenge at the end: you are the definition of a good liar and if that's what it takes to be a good Traitor that's your ticket to the jackpot!

[@mistyabney6755]

I have a stupid question… I saw on Insta that River Rose was born… how is this episode of VF talking about the baby not being born yet when Bach aired last night… I’m so confused…

[@skye9092]

They get early screeners

[@MarkeeCoco]

Their show probably gets to watch the episodes ahead of time, hence how these are always posted the morning after it airs for us.

[@lalaa8653]

Congrats Natalie and Nick, River Rose is such a cute name! (Vivi would be such a cute nickname haha)

[@gertprincess]

Ok if ya love Shakespeare names...you'd love mine. Gertrude. Queen Gertrude. Hamlet's mother. Hahahhaa. Bring it back. I dare you. 😂

[@TeeVaPool]

You have to remember this was filmed only a couple of months after the scandal broke. Ariana has definitely moved on, Tom’s still the one wallowing in this mess.

[@lindseyscammell9347]

What do you mean? It wasn't filmed a couple of months after the scandal broke. It was filmed pretty recently

[@sam11297]

@@lindseyscammell9347it was filmed in July. It broke in March.

[@lindseyscammell9347]

@@sam11297 They spoke about the Tom's trip to Thailand, which was in January 2024....and they also discussed Arianna petitioning for the sale of the house, those documents were also filed in January 2024. They also commented several times about how its been 10 months, which also brings it to January 2024. So I have no clue what you're on about. What dyu think... they're some psychic fortune tellers or something lol

[@andreaterwisscha6385]

PLEASE look up clips of Kameron Wescott of RHOD and you will see Sydney from Joey's season on the Bachelor is her literal doppelganger! It's uncanny.

[@mrsjessicasmith]

I think she looks like a potato

[@BronzeStarz]

I hate how the bachelor recap has become a little footnote in these videos when that’s why people watched in the first place

[@courtneydiannebenefield8934]

We’re seeing Lala text Rachel 8 months later but I’m real time you just said they started negotiations the day after the reunion aired and they started filming soon after. So I’m thinking it didn’t take Lala 8 months more like a couple.

[@SuziSPSquirrel]

They started filming the last week of June…scandoval happened on March 1st…so Lala called her in June.

[@moriahelizabeth3831]

Sandoval calls Lisa Vanderpump, a senior citizen that could be his mother, dude on the show. I dont think it’s him being disrespectful, I just feel like he uses that word a lot. Not defending him I just don’t think he is very well spoken and does not think before he speaks. And it’s so crazy why is everyone still so obsessed with discussing this topic. Their relationship ended just like it started why does no one talk about this on the podcast.

[@heatherjohnston5763]

Yes nick nailed it about Olivia

[@dev_with_me]

I don’t think Lala was trying to give her a chance. I think she was just relating to her and wanted her to know she’s not alone. Maybe if she responded there may had been a sit down but I didn’t get the vibe that she was inviting her back into the group.

[@mrsjessicasmith]

Lala did what the producers asked her to do.

[@ningyding]

It is actually a strange phenomenon, but documented, that babies often come out initially looking like the father so that the father knows that it is his, but then they grow into what they will actually look like, which is more of a mix of the mom and dad! So Natalie don’t worry. This is just nature’s way of telling Nick that you didn’t cheat on him so he will love the baby.

[@brendawunsche4647]

Raynaaa ❤

[@serenawindsor1262]

They aren’t able to get bachelor people because the bachelor is Disney/ABC. I’m surprised Peter was offered a position tbh. Most of the cast are from NBC-related programs bc the show is on Peacock, obviously, and CBS/Viacom bc the show is being produced by a former CBS executive.

[@sofun101]

Rachel was not bullied, verbally abused or anything of the sort. That is a ridiculous assertion. I do however hope she got the help she desperately needed and will be a better person going forward. Otherwise, great podcast

[@ashbash842]

Just wanted to put it out there what Ciara was saying isn't that you'd protect or love Natalie less than your child but it's a different love in the aspect that you'll have this different level of respect for Natalie because of the life she's brought into the world for yall to love and raise into a strong little lady

[@marlenelopez4130]

Nick, I really appreciate the empathy you show towards Sandoval. I agree, people online have been so mean to him. It makes me sad I also think it bugs me that people demand accountability from him, when it reality, he doesn’t owe it to anyone. People feel so entitled to judge both Toms, I don’t understand why!

[@anna5169]

They didn't film the next day there was time in between the reunion and then filming again. like 6 weeks like come on do your research guys before shit talking. And the reunion aired long after it was filmed

[@clwm2dlw]

Wrong about Peter. MJ and Janelle knew Dan was a traitor before Peter said anything.

[@leahbia82]

NICK! It's valentiNe... Not tiMes! 😂

[@HurricaneEmily]

Is it just me or does Nick seem a little miffed that Natalie finds Joey attractive?

[@LA-ty2ug]

Yes. He always seems negative and jealous of the new bachelor leads lol

[@anarubino4105]

such a greatt ep

[@OnlineinMT]

Nick usually gets it, but saying Rachel should have gone back on VPR is an ice cold take. He of all people should know how reality tv works and I think would have been absolutely detrimental to her. Seemed more like a weird soap box moment to passive aggressively shit on iHeart?

[@SydneyKong]

“He's not playing chess no” 💀💀💀

[@lisabella221]

im so confused in this shes still pregnant but they had the baby a week ago but they are recapping last nights bachelor

[@lisabella221]

still confused

[@skye9092]

They get early screeners for episodes

[@nataliazd7559]

TEAM MARIA!

[@KayVaughn-x8p]

Do u guys thinks its odd that 10 days aftrr a 9 yr relationshop..ariana fell inlove?? Just curious ur alls opinion!

[@Tamika-dq6ze]

She met him 10 days later. She didn’t fall in love with him or even start dating him 10 days later

[@maayanmiti]

Most babies when they born, they look like their fathers. So the father knows it’s his baby and start to connect with him for her.

[@KayVaughn-x8p]

Would u disown ur brother cuz its seems like tom an toms relationship ...like brothers??

[@Cecalore]

Was Sandoval late on purpose? Lolol because you were “late” to his 🤔

[@Sunshinelollipops223]

I think they are wayyy to hash on schwarts. He had nothing to do with the affair and he is a great guy. And Tom was a nice person he just messed up.

[@amandacraig5070]

Who are you guys to tell Ariana when to feel better and get over it?? Also this was filmed three months after the affair not now. You guys never watched Vanderpump now you jump on the band wagon cause it’s popular. You don’t know what you’re talking about. And bashing Ariana is disgusting

[@Sunshinelollipops223]

lol they are so horrified by the reunion have you seen the other reunions? Vpr has always been crazy. These people have always been sharks and bully’s .

[@stobyswife]

I didn't like the way Tom Sandoval, had raised his voice to Natalie. Was waiting for Nick to be like take it down a notch.

[@lindabucaram298]

Omg I felt the same as Natalie but I think is her hormones more than anything is called baby blues that happened to ALL MOMS THAT I TALK TO! So it will go away is just baby blues hormones ! So you are good Natalie is not bad !

[@julielockhart1904]

Three words: Schwartz. Needs. Therapy.

[@joannewilkins5000]

I think as long as Schwartz is loyal to Sandoval then Sandoval will have him around. I had a friend like this for 21 years. We travelled world on my staff travel which is cheap travel as a flight attendant and soon as he got into a serious relationship and married his boyfriend he gave me the flick. Pretty shocking. I never saw it coming. But he was definitely narcissistic and his now husband earn good money and pays for everything so I am not useful anymore. I see it in these men relationship. I think Schwartz values the friendship more than Sandoval.

[@seven92023]

This episode once again showed that this is not judgement free podcast and that women don't have empathy for men. Everything the VPR cast does is to create and promote the drama on the show. They have always done that, for 10 years. On the Bachelor, the women were really trauma dumping and revealing so many of their own red flags. And poor Joey has to listen to that and pretend for the cameras. Sydney is hypocrite and a liar. Maria did nothing of what she said. But Nick contradicted himself when he judged Sydney's character IRL.

[@noahprobz]

There have in fact already been multiple people who have come out on tik tok and said they went to school with some of the women and they were soooo nasty

[@CozyDinosaur]

Kate Chastain was hilariously bitchy, apathetic and bad on season 1 of Traitors. She tried to get voted off by being terrible and she couldn't because she was so terrible that they didn't believe she was a Traitor. It's hilarious. That is why they are bringing her back.

[@joanne8084]

I don’t know why anyone expects Tom to keep droning on about what he did. He said he was sorry like a hundred times… he’s not good at articulating himself & honestly this has been the best thing that has ever happened to Ariana & she was the OTHER woman in the beginning of their relationship so wtf do you want him say. Also again Natalie said Nick didn’t text her until 6:55 pm saying he was heading to Tom so again he literally was late!!!!

[@dr_power.]

It wasn’t Sandoval that “wouldn’t let it go”, it was Nick and Natalie. 10:50

[@stukyle611]

Ciara!! where did you get your boots from?!?!?!?!?

[@tracim3080]

18:27 so you’re an adult with standards, and who acts with morals and judgment. That’s not a bad thing

[@KiKifulton]

The commentary on Ariana was trash. Never once has she asked for a pity party, she’s only asked for support, & for people to respect the boundaries she put in place. Ariana can grieve as long as she wants, considering her ex brings up crap from 10 years ago. It hasn’t been a year since this scandal broke out. Remember they were together for nine years. Why is society against women feeling scorned, in pain, and heartbroken? Also, no one but Ariana knows how much money she is making, and money has nothing to do with feelings. Money doesn’t cure pain.

[@marileorube24]

How is she grieving when she was on another man 10 days later. She didn't love tom anymore. She was just pist she wasn't smart enough to see what was in front of her face

[@piggycupcakes]

ummm joey has charisma, i'm sorry but zach and clayton do not! come on nick

[@kandykaye9981]

Why does Nick talk like he has a mouth full of socks?

[@marileorube24]

I feel like the girls on this pod are mean girls. It's the mainstream to Hate on the toms rn but come on its been a year. Sandoval has apologized a million times. What do people want to see? Him with a beard hardly eating not going out not doing anything to be satisfied that he's sorry? I don't think it's nice to have someone come and then bash the shh out of them on a pod after.

[@claudiapawlak6894]

Today is February 6, 2024 . Yesterday it was posted that Natalie & Nick are parents. River Rose Viall was born February 2, 2024. Congratulations ! February 2 is Candlemas. After the birth of Jesus, 40 days later , purification of the Virgin Mary in the temple. Tranquility, growth, life, Light of the World. "Our Lady of good sucess" February is also honest. "River" English origin, stream of water that flows to the sea."Rose" Syria , Latin, origin. England by the Normans "Rose & Rohese". Narcissism native of Palestine, famous type. February 2 is also ground hog day. Are these girls Egyptian ? " This guy is so hot ! " Habibi ! Divine !

[@kirstymonkeys1]

Ok, you guys have to STOP with the “like “ add a “dude” and you are all Tom S 😅

[@TeeVaPool]

Nick is still under Tom’s spell. Just another Schwartz.

[@ebstudio9525]

Joey is not hot but he does need a woman who makes money for his tennis teacher lifestyle.

[@CarolContreras-bk2rm]

Sooo sick of ariana