RTX 4070 Ti vs RX 7900 XT - Test in 8 Games l 4K Ray Tracing

[@TestingGames]

Games : CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:06 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077 CYBERPUNK 2077 RT - 1:01 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077 Forza Horizon 5 - 2:00 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5 Hitman 3 - 3:08 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3 Spider-Man Miles Morales - 4:10 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesSpiderManPC Spider-Man Miles Morales RT - 5:01 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesSpiderManPC Horizon Zero Dawn - 5:53 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D Red Dead Redemption 2 - 6:52 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2 God of War - 7:56 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesGoWPC The Witcher 3 - 8:52 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher The Witcher 3 RT - 10:02 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher System: Windows 11 Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV RADEON RX 7900 XT 20GB - bit.ly/3W06ek8 GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12GB - bit.ly/3VMY9yr SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj

[@makarov9480]

Testing Games, can you test i5 12400 vs i5 13400??

[@valval6381]

4k?

[@somebodynamedJ.]

a wise man once said: "NVIDIA and AMD are killing it with the worst GPU launches in decades"

[@OmnianMIU]

a sad reality

[@zt9233]

The GPUs are fantastic. These are large meaningful jumps in performance for both and Nvidia esp at the high end. Launch availability for amd and 4090 is abysmal and by company choice. Prices are ghastly but you know what? The 7900xtx is the same price as the 6900xt. And I have held off on buying a GPU since 2020 when I sold my last one before the spike in prices. These are at least MSRPish and cheaper than. 1200 and 1600 for Nvidia so that was my way of voting with my wallet is by telling Nvidia NOPE the pandemic was a fluke those prices are nope-tastic. I doubt Nvidia will listen. They'll just slow their supply of Nvidia GPUs and move them to enterprise and raise prices.

[@pedroduran8927]

The GPUs are great, the problem is only the price tag.

[@rrsharizam]

Amd XTX is not even worth 50% of Nvidia 4090 price

[@pedroduran8927]

@@rrsharizam lamo and the 4090 worth that price ?? those nvidia's fanboys are a joke. AMD is making good gpus too. XTX is very close to 4080's performance. - The Issues with overheat is due to the cooling solution of the reference cards, if you buy from XFX , Sapphire you will have zero issues with that.

[@ZykopathOfficial]

Two terribly priced GPUs, need at least a 300$ price drop!

[@clicktolearnmore43]

True af

[@EarthIsFlat456]

Need to be free!

[@Proxylamborg]

There are like literally only 4 GPUs in the world that can beat 4070 TI right now.

[@hardwaretounsi]

@@Proxylamborg the 3090 and 3090 Ti are stronger than it @4k and productivity thanks to double the vram and extra memory bus so it's actually 6. Also nvidia is planning to release 4090 Ti and 4080 Ti and a Titan so in a couple of months it will become 9 gpus stronger than it.

[@math3capanema]

You are just broke bro 👍, a 100 to 150 Price drop is reasonable

[@meh5337]

Excellent generational performance on the cards but got overshadowed by how terrible the pricing is

[@MrGeesikser]

Tell me about power? What is more powerful, 4070 Ti or 3080 Ti?

[@thishallakshan7410]

@@MrGeesikser 4070ti ofcuz

[@MrGeesikser]

@@thishallakshan7410 tnx

[@niceuuuuuu]

​@@MrGeesikser4070 ti rivals 3090 ti

[@mattqualls7449]

Yeah, it's ridiculous how they've decided to stick with the RONA NINETEEN pricing with the silicon shortage that was going on. Greedy corps gonna be greedy. I remember back when the BEST card released at around $500 and would go down to $250 3-4 months later. But, that was back during the 9800PRO days lol. STILL, though, this $1200-$1400+ pricing is just uncalled for. CPU pricing is great while GPU pricing is just ridiculous.

[@borasumer]

These cards are not all that bad, they are just too expensive for what they are this year. Need a big price adjustment, they we'd start talking.

[@nomate3259]

Was highly considering upgrading to a 40 series card or one of AMDs new releases. Clearly by evidence of viewed results I'm going to hold up my middle finger and pass.

[@nomate3259]

@@Cookie4yabro Funny you should say that, I also got a 3070 just to tie me over while I wait and see what the 50 series cards will be like. Mine was 400 as well. Bargain price and yes I absolutely agree, they perform really well at 1440p.

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

I got a 4080, everything maxed out! Living the dream!

[@bfboobie]

@@nomate3259 tide you over, not tie you over

[@nomate3259]

@@bfboobie couldn't give a f***

[@jZamora87]

@@TTx04xCOBRA dang lil mama, onlyfans must be a good venture for you

[@Tonious]

If AMD would just cut the price of the 7900XT I would buy one in a heartbeat. Needs to be $150-$200 cheaper.

[@selohcin]

Yeah, exactly. I'm fed up with waiting. I think I'm going to buy a used RTX 3080 because AMD just won't give us any reasonable prices. I really wanted to buy the 7900 XT, but it's just not worth $900.

[@Isaiiahii]

@@selohcin You'd be better off with the 6950xt which beats a 3080 and edges out the 3090 as well, and even beats the 3090ti in some games, and ties it in many others. Of course RT sucks, but if you don't need RT, get the 6950xt.

[@selohcin]

@@Isaiiahii Yes, but I fully intend to turn on ray tracing, which the 3080 clearly beats the 6950XT at. The 6950XT isn't a bad card, but it's not worth it at the prices it's currently being sold at, and you can't get it at a discount on the used market.

[@Isaiiahii]

@@selohcin Gotcha. I've never looked at the used market. What are 3080's selling for used?

[@ChrisAKAgizmologic]

Well with the 4070ti technically being $100 cheaper then the 7900xt i dont think amd will cut its price at all, the 7900xt beats the 4070ti in basically everything but RT so now they hit the right bracket competition wise....... which is a shame as they should all be slightly cheaper starting at the top but heyho it is what it is. Got a 7900xt myself and really enjoying it, it all depends where youve come from whether the jump is big enough, myself was a 3060ti so i saw huge gains and i didnt see it as that bad at £899

[@oliverunruh900]

Please always include Flight Simulator into your test procedure. This makes you unique among other testing chanels.

[@bryanelizalde2188]

It would be nice to see a 3090 TI vs 7900 XT in ray tracing to see the 7900 XT's improvements in this area and to see if it's on par with the 3000 series as many people say.

[@selohcin]

The 7900 XT does ray tracing about as well as a 3080 does.

[@brandondean9040]

amd still have a bit to go for ray tracing but for the price of the 7900 xt its way better and soon as they impliment that into there drivers nvidia will be in trouble imo

[@filip9587]

​@Brandon Dean I found the 7900XT to be better than the 4070 Ti in other games for RT.

[@brandondean9040]

@@filip9587 thats good to know im so ready for my 7900 xt to come in hoping my 750w gold evga power supply will run it im ready to test out some games!!!

[@filip9587]

@Brandon Dean I agree. With the current prices in my country, the 6950XT is only 50 less than a 7900XT, so I'm hoping to get that too. Was hoping to get an XTX, but they're hard to come by, especially at msrp. Cannot wait to see how SAM will work with my 5600X too.

[@rrsharizam]

There is no bad hardware. Only bad price.

[@CreamySenpai31]

12 gb vram is pretty bad hardware if you ask me. If they made it 16 I would’ve brought it no brainer now idk which to choose considering cyberpunk is basically on par with a 3070 ti in performance

[@xxx333mmm]

@@CreamySenpai31 what is par on 3070 ti ?

[@erisium6988]

@@CreamySenpai31 one year before ur comment u were so happy (as everyone) to pay for higher model aka 3080 that had 10gb vram and was slower and was taking much more watts

[@videosuu300]

@@CreamySenpai31 12gb is not bad hardware, if something has to be called bad, are the games that require so much vram because of bad optimization. There are no great games out there that require more than 8gb at 1440p

[@thelonelyowl2654]

All the 4070 Ti needs to be a good graphics card is a price cut to $600.

[@nelsonpiedade61]

more like 350euros.

[@AdnanAhmed]

4070ti is performing like a $300 card...

[@thelonelyowl2654]

@@AdnanAhmedI don't know how you guys came to that conclusion. $300 would probably barely cover the BOM costs, not even mentioning R&D costs. Companies have to make profit to stay afloat. You forgot that?

[@elyad67]

@@AdnanAhmed Find me a 300$ gpu that performs like the 4070Ti... The same kiddos saying this crap are mad that the 4070Ti is equal if not better with time to their 3090Ti which they bought for 2000 bucks 🤣🤣🤣

[@Noctuaz]

@@elyad67 facts

[@hariskhan01]

Both should be hundreds cheaper and the 4070Ti has a fake $799 MSRP because no models are priced at the MSRP at all.

[@bilalkhan-cs7fi]

newegg has multiple variants at $799

[@ScuffedIonian]

@@bilalkhan-cs7fi do you think they even bothered to check before typing

[@Arxgxmi]

@@ScuffedIonian its funny cuz msrp is nvidias price and what we pay is usually higher anyways cuz of the other companies designing the cooling / oc so even if they weren't at msrp it doesn't mean its unusual lol

[@anuzahyder7185]

There are many at msrps. Amdonkeys tsk

[@KelvinKMS]

4080 should be $699

[@wtfskilz]

Geeze I'm worried if I buy a 4070 Ti it'll be obsolete by next year.

[@sloyit3267]

12gb

[@WheresPoochie]

As much as the lack of VRAM scares me, I find my eyes drifting towards the 4070 TI. The depth just seems more rich.

[@basshead.]

get a regular 4070 and play at 1080p

[@mega5376]

​​@@basshead.ah even a 4070 is enough for 2k ..atleast rn

[@Ziplock9000]

That's 100% just you. There's no difference in the compressed YT video

[@marcoschoen86]

I don't pay a 1000€ for this. 2019 i build a whole PC with 1200€ and a 2070 super and could play everything on ultra.

[@cubanamerican22]

1440p*

[@Dark88Dragon]

Yeah, my quite new gaming rig costed sub 1.4k (not even the price of a 4080 in ma country), playing everything rock-solid in native 1440p Ultra

[@urchikgaming4178]

4070ti is a4k card not 1440p. Don't compare your shitbox 1080p with 4k. At 4k your 2070 will have 5 fps

[@NextGenCeoTV]

I went to store 1 week ago for RTX 4070 TI from Gainward. Last minute i change my mind and got RX 7900 XT. It was cheaper than Gainward 4070 TI by the way in store.

[@StevieCEmpireofUnitedGaming]

Made a solid choice well done

[@CGPepper]

I'm in the same boat. Reference XT is 850, 4070 ti is 909 for inno3D, 969 for gigabyte.

[@zt9233]

Performance like this it's hard to believe the 7900xt is the second best GPU. But compared to the 7900xtx the price isnt right. This should have been the 6800xt at 600-700 and even 5hen I'd tell you it should be 400ish and by die size alone it should be.

[@dafaqu694]

By die size alone, 4070ti should be 450 at best

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

Enjoy shitty Ray Tracing performance lmao

[@findgod...]

@@dafaqu694 what you smoking

[@findgod...]

@@dafaqu694 700 minimum 600 for 4070 non ti would be good price

[@dafaqu694]

@@findgod... oh no here we go nvidia fan smoking, the die size is only like less than 50% of it, it's AD104 it should be 500 like 3070

[@Kryptix0III]

same fps on Spider-Man with RT reflections and shadows enabled is impressive

[@the_niko9]

12GB for 4K it's not future proof

[@AachenCityTitty]

u dont buy a 4070 for 4K gaming.....really not

[@AndreFreitas91250]

Nvidia sells the 4070 Ti has a 1440p high frame rate (on ultra settings) gpu and not has a 4k GPU that's why you only have 12 Gb of VRAM (expensive 1440p gpu :X)

[@eversonneo]

@@AachenCityTitty what do you buy then ? nvidia promisses 4k ready since gtx 1000, holy even 970 had the 4k ready badge on it, 4070 is more than enough for 4k, truth is that bad optimization will aways be a issue, nobody buy a 4070 for fullhd.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

Use DLSS or FSR and you'll be fine for the next 2 years.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@@AachenCityTitty Yes you do. The 4070Ti is faster than the 3090 at 4K. And people have been using the 3090 at 4K for the past two years without issue.

[@DavyDavePapi]

I'm a ray tracing kind of person, so 4070 ti is what I would go for, if it had more vram like 16gb at least

[@Frader1981]

12Gb is a bottleneck in the future!

[@stixktv__9999]

No

[@erisium6988]

in the future u will be forced to play without RT because gpu will be too slow or play lower res. This level of performance doesnt need more vram. Whats the point of putting 1TB in GT730? None

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Overall a nicely done video. One suggestion though maybe put a black square around all of the text - so it's easier to see and read. With the colors that the text are - it's more difficult to see against the color of the screen.

[@xninefoxx8874]

Eh not relly no

[@Deadspartan785]

No its not

[@joshuapicarello]

I've got my 7900XT at 3Ghz. This card is an insane overclocker.

[@metalmaniac8260]

driver issues

[@joshuapicarello]

@@metalmaniac8260 I will admit the drivers can be hit or miss, occasionally having to downgrade a few revisions due to bugs. But I don't have much of an issue with that personally.

[@selohcin]

Great video! Can you do 1440p next, and this time include Hitman 3 ray tracing?

[@ikkasenjinkatalatinian3051]

I know that these comps had a long time format. But I would really like to see it with DLSS or FSR enabled, because one of the other reasons that users use to choose one of these GPUs are the technlogies they carry.

[@P4SCVL]

DLSS and FSR are nice for FPS, but they bring a hughe frametime with it. Not that perfect as it always sounds.

[@anuzahyder7185]

@@P4SCVL what do u mean by frametime issues. Dlss is totally fine. Fsr is good for old n weak gpus. I wudnt wanna use fsr coz there r too many artefacts n it’s kinda blurry.

[@thedaeron3877]

I went for 4070ti over the 7900xt ...since it was cheaper in my area by 150$ ... and i don't like the look of fsr look blurrier IMO. BUT ... i'm still pissed at myself buying a gpu at this price. Anyway it's still kicking it i love my 4070ti

[@anuzahyder7185]

@@thedaeron3877 good choice

[@potvinsuks8730]

@@P4SCVL Exactly. Hence why a program like MSFS 20 may be a good candidate for it but not for the majority of competitive gaming. Thia is my dilemma right now in tryimg to pick a GPU for my 13700k Flight Sim/Sim Racing build.

[@CallMeShiba]

Basically rtx 4070 ti is a 3090ti and rx7900xt supposed to be way better than 6900xt? Which was around the same level as 3090 or 3080ti at its time

[@jose121624]

@Pyro-Lyro let me tell you that you stayed in 2002

[@anuzahyder7185]

@@jose121624 it doesnt. There r still frame time issues

[@hellrep]

@@jose121624 and you stayed in 1980

[@arturlacerda1165]

@@hellrep SFU

[@jose121624]

@@hellrep Yeah yeah, and here I with a 960 and a 2080 with OBS problems and crashes with the version of driver 528.02, oh look that coincidence nvidia giving me problems a company that is supposed to not give problems in that aspects…….

[@teleman07]

If AMD comes up with good 7800 and 7700 cards with good prices and closer to performance of 7900, they could overtake a certain company and bring balance to the force. Also why the f. do we have a ti card already. What are they gonna call them rehashes this time? 4070 ti super?

[@stillcold]

The 7900xt really should’ve been the 7800xt, but well seee how it goes. Also, we have a 4070ti already bc it is just the unlaunched 4080 12gbs that they had already produced. They did not want to waste their stock on that product or waste the 4070s they’re obviously producing rn so they just figured they’d call the 4080 12gb a 4070ri

[@pinakmiku4999]

Are you an Amd shill? Are you aware of Amd launching 6500xt at $200, 7900xt at $899 and lie about 7900xtx performance which turned out similar to 4080. Go back and watch Amd launches in 2022. What you are referring was 2020 when even Nvidia had launched 3080 at $699 thereby making 6800xt for $650 a hard purchase if both would have been available in plenty. Amd is not the market leader so it follows Nvidia in pricing. Their goal is to take market share now not lead them. Edit: Until Nvidia corrects pricing Amd won’t. And most people buy Nvidia shown by market stats facts

[@stillcold]

@@pinakmiku4999 "fOuRTy nInETy LIKe pErForMAnCe In RasTEr," yeah they lied so much. I waited a month to build and passed a 620$ 6900xt deal for that bs. cant believe people defend amd after the 7900 xt, their 7900 xtx lies, etc.

[@teleman07]

@@pinakmiku4999 " Until Nvidia corrects pricing Amd won’t. And most people buy Nvidia shown by market stats facts" What I am saying basically is that this is a great opportunity for them to capitalize on nVidia's shtty pricing. AMD is an independent company capable of setting its own prices and apparently that makes me AMD shill somehow. I am no AMD shill but your attitude shows whose shill you are.

[@anuzahyder7185]

Xt su*cks. Imagine being slower n charging 100 more

[@elnero6875]

70 series used to be like $400, oh how times have changed

[@chrisk1458]

And Gouda cheese was below 2€/100g So what

[@jenkaigaming]

I'd like to see how the 7900xt performs with a 7 series AMD CPU. You aren't getting the most out of it without using SAM

[@ethanjones3588]

Lmaoo

[@isanvicente1974]

no body talks about lumen in unreal 5 engine, for me is the future... RT hardware needs at least 1 or 2 generation of GPUs to work properly...

[@anuzahyder7185]

It’s already working properly. There will be more rt heavy games. Amd cannot hide behind rt shadows anymore

[@hustleacc8075]

@@anuzahyder7185 Na even a RTX 4090 is still too slow to play in max RT without DLSS

[@bigmac371]

@@hustleacc8075 fun fact of the day: “ You don’t need 144fps every single game”

[@hustleacc8075]

@@bigmac371 When I pay 2000$ for a GPU, than no: "I need 144fps for every single game"

[@anuzahyder7185]

@@hustleacc8075 i have 4090 buddy. N it’s not 2000. It cud be 2000 now due to super high demand n no supply but i got it for 50 above msrp. If u want 144fps then play with dlss or play with some rt turned on. Y r u disregarding dlss when it looks great? If there was a significant dip in image quality i cud understand. Idk what u guys really want. The features are there u wont use it. Nvidia made it possible for us to get over 100 fps at 4k max settings with rt but U only want it ur way. Then u shud go n make graphics and show nvidia and amd how u can do it for lower price.

[@Larimuss]

4070ti costs about $1000 USD in Australia. It’s pretty insane.

[@feiht5487]

ok and what's average monthly wage for people there that don't make this purchasable?

[@Larimuss]

@@feiht5487 minimum wage is higher I doubt average wage is higher. AU is the most expensive in the world to buy software and probably hardware too or one of

[@CoffeeGameMovie]

@@Larimuss1000$ is not that bad really... here in hungary this card is more expensive. Here its like 1200$ instead... so just dont cry. Yah and wages are way lower than in australia. :P

[@Larimuss]

@@CoffeeGameMovie don’t cry? AMD and Nvidia are milking Covid to keep their card prices high for smaller performance gains than previous gen. Regardless whatever country they are ripping people off. One component for a computer should not cost that much and never should. But it is what it is for now. Maybe if a third competitor really comes into play. For sure they collude for prices I bet you which is illegal in Australia.

[@CoffeeGameMovie]

@@Larimuss This is the trend, lets face this: few years ago u could buy a good i5 K CPU for 50-60K, now its like 100+... I bought my asus sabertooth med-high end motherboard for 55K, hehe now the same category is 100+. Its not just VGA-s, in price u see bigger diff there cuz they were more expensive always. And dont forget these expensive cards are veery strong, a 4070ti or 7900xt what u can buy for 1000$ are that strong that u can literally play any game with them maxed out 4K@100-120fps. (just forget RT, its bullshit). And even then u can use DLSS with nvidia for + 30% fps, and after all u just dont HAVE to max out the games, often the high setting is just as good as max, but with +20% fps. Eh so this topic is deep enough....

[@ArTuRkrut13]

Можно перетест? Прошло довольно много времени с сравнения этих видеокарт и вышло довольно много обновлений драйверов. Может теперь баланс сил изменился?

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

I just bought a 4070 ti and now I'm kinda regretting my decision. The 7900 xt draws more power and isn't as good featurewise (less rt performance, no dlss etc) but would've been cheaper and the 20 gigs of vram compared to the measly 12 gigs are kind of a big deal down the line :( Should I send it back?

[@ilovebanana177]

Nah just keep it. 12gb vram kinda suck but the card is very efficient

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

@@ilovebanana177 I ordered both and will do some testing. But I probably gonna keep the 4070ti. I hope I don't regret it later :S

[@uniqueforce8378]

Get the 7900xt

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

@@uniqueforce8378 I did send the 4070ti back and kept the 7900xt. Thank you.

[@uniqueforce8378]

@@Art_Vandelay_Industries how are you liking it. I’m about to buy 7900xt over the 4070 ti

[@ghost085]

How much to upgrade from the XT to XTX? I think that would be the better deal. Still too expensive though...

[@The_Z_Force]

It would be nice to see a comparison when DLSS3 and FG are enabled. Visually you cannot distinguish the difference but the performance gain is off the chart.

[@__-fi6xg]

cyberpunk works so well for dlss 3 because you dont see the guy playing and having input lags while taking a corner. Testers of cyberpunk allways choose a video instead of actual gameplay footage.

[@Adrian-is6qn]

The issue with Frame Generation is that there are very few games that actually got it right now. It has been like 6 months. And there's less than 10 AAA titles that got it.Even new games like last of us or re4 don't have it. Same with Callisto protocol or dead space and i think jedi survivor won't have it either.

[@xshangheighx]

This guy gives 3 out of 5 games that are remakes saying they don't have frame generation.

[@Adrian-is6qn]

@@xshangheighx What's your point ? Just because the game is a remake doesn't stop it from having FG. It's a just a matter for game developers to make appropriate patch to include it. If a regular Joe can make a mod that includes FG in Elden Ring & Jedi Survivor than a multi billion dolar companies got no excuse for not having it.

[@victorlgcarvalho]

Frame generation is utter crap. Tons of input delay added just to make the game "feel" smooth. And I'm a 4080 owner, so I know what I'm saying.

[@dvlx8453]

600-700 $ ACTUAL INSTORE PRICES AND THESE TWO CARS WOULD FLY OF THE SHELVES AT LIGHT SPEED which most likely will happen 6 months when both companies realize they need to save their sinking ships

[@User_SSG]

"With great money, comes great FPS."

[@jovik2671]

i dont see great fps neither

[@User_SSG]

@@jovik2671 DLSS 3

[@WolfChen]

@@User_SSG not every game has that..

[@songoku1957]

Just Sold my 3080Ti EVGA and bought a 7900XTX PowerColor Limited Edition. Best decision i made. Works well with 5800x3d

[@metalmaniac8260]

enjoy driver issues

[@songoku1957]

@@metalmaniac8260 lol dont know what you talking about pc works fucking good no issues. Grow up

[@KingsDR]

I think anyone upgrading from a 20 series card will not be disappointed with either of these cards

[@pcxgaming44]

They will def be disappointed with the amd drivers

[@chanelbandit]

What about a 970 upgrade?

[@Entweder_Oda]

20 Series owner can wait till the nex gen drops👍

[@Koubles]

@@pcxgaming44 I don't know why people are saying AMD drivers are so bad as if they're unusable. I see way too many people who ACTUALLY make the switch report a very similar experience to NVIDIA drivers, in that they encounter roughly the same amount of bugs. A good friend of mine had owned a rx570 for 6 years and hardly had problems gaming with it. However, he is huge Blender render user so he did complain about the driver performance specifically in that regard. That said, most people aren't buying these cards to use them for 3D blender rendering, and even so it's not like it's out of the question for simple hobbyists. Nvidia is undeniably better if your daily workflow consists of blender and premier pro, but I wouldn't discount AMD cards nowadays by claiming that their drivers don't work, which seems to be less and less true these days.

[@pcxgaming44]

@@Koubles a friend of mine has a rx460 and has to use drivers from like 4 years ago and gets constant screen freezing and black screens, if he updates to new drivers he gets more performance (idk if he gets screen freezes/black screens with those) but games crash in less than 4 minutes

[@samghost13]

Radeon GPU with more Ram is Futureproof

[@shroud4269]

Why tf is everyone so pressed over the price. Gpus were 2-3x for almost 2 years and now we finally get msrp and everyone is like NEEDS TO BE $300 CHEAPER 😡😡😡

[@hadifelani]

I'd still chose whichever that has bigger VRAM capacity.

[@stixktv__9999]

Then you're a fool.

[@hadifelani]

@@stixktv__9999 sure, call me whatever you want. In the end it depends on what games you play. And in my case, I play mostly on heavily modded games like Cities Skylines, Fallout, Skyrim, etc which could take way more than 10GB even on 1080p.

[@hadifelani]

@@stixktv__9999 furthermore, RX 580 8GB has proven to last longer than GTX 1060 6GB with their extra 2GB of VRAM.

[@stixktv__9999]

@@hadifelani I totaly get your first comment, but here you forget that the rx 580 has always been stronger than the 1060 and AMD kept emproving their drivers whereas NVIDIA just couldn't get more performance out of the pascal architecture. Vram might make difference like you said on certain games but the 8gb don't make the rx 580 better, drivers did.

[@stixktv__9999]

@@hadifelani but anyway the rx 580 is simply not powerfull enough to utilizes those 8gb vram.

[@McLeonVP]

0:21 8 fps for 100 dollars more? *typical fanboy of brands comment *

[@bunnyjr6383]

honestly only matters to me when the prices drop, nobody can afford this shit anyway unless they're stupid or rich

[@McLeonVP]

@@bunnyjr6383 Obviously

[@nolanroube1009]

The 7900XT is realy a good GPU and with better drivers it could be excellent

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

yes more amd games will come esp since they 'own' every single console, also you can get away with deactivating/lowering nv settings theyre sometimes not noticeable and not worth the fps drop

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

eg lowering ao, aa, shadows, rt etc

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

will usually result to butterly smooth experience esp in 144hz

[@jmun3688]

amd drivers are generally scuffed at launch but get quite a bit better by the end of the generation. I believe the performance in a lot of games actually increased quite a bit between the start of rdna 2 up to today

[@GeneralLee131]

I'd be interested to see the 7900 XT overclocked. Mine manages 3000mhz+ with no trouble.

[@peter1001pp]

Without oc mine. it went 3000 mhz by it self

[@did00p]

but not under 100% load. in 3d mark with +15% powerlimit and 95% voltage, 2850Mhz was average clock. 3000mhz only in lower demanding titles.

[@davidcole2337]

So Basically if you don't care about Ray Trace RX 7900 XT all the Way. If you like to run games with Ray Trace on you have to examine closer and some specific games are faster with RTX 4070TI..

[@Tuskabanana]

if you dont care about drivers, and gpu overheating, take amd, they just need 2 years to fix drivers :O

[@Assassin2928]

Dont forget about smart access memory on ryzen cpu.

[@muhammadluqman3452]

@@Tuskabanana all of that can be fixed in less than 6 months and raw performance is always better than raytracing and if im buying a 900$ or 1000$ gpu it better be future proof unlike nvidia than downgrades their gpu drivers

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

@@Tuskabanana Drivers are fine, gpu overheating is just a bad batch and nobody buys stock AMD cards anyways, it's only aftermarket cards which do not have any problems

[@Tuskabanana]

@@muhammadluqman3452 bro 7900 xt got like 5-10 fps more in 4k, if you get games with dlss 3.0, 4070 ti will stomp the 7900 xt, and they will release more than 50+ games with dlss 3.0, rt performance is better too

[@cornadoor5684]

Thanks for your efforts testing for us.

[@Warmuro]

AMD is known for big fps boosts updates after updates, so in my opinion, give it a few year and difference will be bigger. Also prices are still going crazy even after they made huge profit cause of the bitcoin. I wonder what would they do if people stop buying their GPUs just for 1 or 2 years.

[@grzegzimierz]

In few years there will be new generations of cards, not much people except AMD fanatics will buy something at this price tag without proper software support.

[@basshead.]

We haven't seen it with RDNA2. RDNA2 is almost 3yo.

[@boriska808]

Looking for advice, 1080p monitor, I7 13700k Cpu, looking for a good solid GPU for 100+ fps

[@MLadie96]

The fact that different games show opposite results really shows how much AMD needs to step up with their drivers. Some people - me included - just wouldn't go team red if they had to say goodbye to dlss, reflex, dldsr, good - but not THAT good - drivers. I mean, they would if they saved more money, which sadly isn't the case.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

for best money spent its amd though esp midranges, 6600/6700/6750 are way too good for the money

[@MLadie96]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 true, but I wonder what both customers and AMD thought. It’s obvious that they wanna earn money, but they need to place their products considering their limitations compared to Nvidia (talking about top tier and not midrange)

[@kuma8030]

@@MLadie96 amd has fsr and fidelityFX (they are not THAT good but they are pretty fucking close given that they are around 1 gen late to it) and and in terms of reflex they doesnt have anything good yet, HYPR-RX which hasn't been released yet but when it gets released it should get close to or around the same as reflex. we should compare tecnologies again in around 4/5 months when both HYPR-RX and fsr 3.0 hit rn they are a bit overpriced for what they offer in terms of technology (not in resterization performance tho even when as time passes thats more and more irrelevant) rn i would go team red any day of the week(im team green rn) and the part bout different games showing different results its just something that has happened always you usually see amd performing better in games that come from console and nvidia performing better in pc exclusives (or orginally only pc) its more of how the developers make the game rather than the drivers from both sides.(they help but they are not THAT relevant besides problems exlusively related to drivers like stutters and low 0.1 and 1% while having higher 99%)

[@thatguy3000]

Add VSR in there. Nvidia driver update pretty much shows that VSR makes a difference now, unlike release where it looked like there was no difference and the GPU was under pressure and eating power for no reason.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The Last of Us Part 1 uses 14GB VRAM, have fun with your 800 dollar GPU that can't run the game properly because NVIDIA scalped you on VRAM.

[@aradhaysingh147]

30 fps is more than enough for story based games, no? Considering there aren't any significant frame drops...

[@hristcroix]

As much as I want to buy a RX 7000 series due to better FPS.. with 2 years of use with my 6700XT, I'll switch to Nvidia. Drivers really sucks at AMD.. If it works, it's really good. But if not.. you're going to have a really bad time troubleshooting, worst is you can't fix it.

[@philmag1]

Wow this is what I want to know from someone that actually has experience with these cards. I have run Nvidia for the last 15+ years and never had driver issues. My MSI Trident X with an rtx 2080 is humming along with my Aorus F048U 4K OlED, I don't play the triple A games more like War Thunder, American truck sim and some racing titles. Very stable platform even slightly overclocked. I am starting a build but will be doing it slowly as I am now retired and limited income. I was hoping AMD was going to step up the drivers quality so I could switch over.

[@spinninglink]

This was my experience as well. I went AMD for years and I felt like a lot of my time was just troubleshooting fps, games stutters, artifacts or freezes etc. I figured "oh that's just typical PC stuff". Switched to Geforce by chance, and MAN i've never looked back. It's like day and night, it just WORKS no issues, don't have to be messing with tons of settings or wasting all my time looking up issues. Couldn't be happier with my 3060ti, and now my 4070 ti. Not only that, but if you do anything outside of gaming like with AI, Nvidia is the only option with its tensor cores!

[@lackofdubs5975]

Everyone saying how bad the gpu are lately, are misleading a little. Every so often, the applications and games get more advanced than what technology can handle. It's always happened. That is what we are seeing. Also worth note, the new consoles released a few year ago which believe it or not, set the tone as to what developers will/can do and will take a little while for them to dial in games. Consoles are what makes the bug bucks for game devs these days, so once they start using the full potential of those, that's when pc will get way more optimisation

[@Ziplock9000]

No people are complaining about price/performance which is off the charts in a bad way

[@patrickkyle7311]

incrível é uma placa de 2023 não conseguir 60fps num jogo de quase 10 anos atrás só pq colocaram RT nele. A maldição dos traçados de raios

[@nelsonpiedade61]

nao é isoo nao cara. o witcher 3 foi desenhado de proposito para vender placas nvidia 4000series com dlss 3. com frame generator. e so isso mesmo. se nao tu podia correr o game em ultra com ray tracing on com uma 3070 ou 3060ti. mas nao da nao. so mesmo ligadno dlss 3 para conseguir tirar o cap nos 30fps para uns meros 40-50fps. isso prova ke todo o ray tracing foi desenhado de rayz a pensar nesse uzo do dlss 3.

[@VulgrDisplay]

Neither card has what I would consider acceptable Ray Tracing performance... Still probably two generations away from Ray Tracing being performance enough for actual use, and actually making a substantial visual difference.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Both cards are great! Prices are fine when compared to the 3000 series pipe dream msrp you'll never get. Id like to see a price cut if $100US on both, but these are much more appealing to me than the 30 series was as a 2070 super owner

[@E1666000]

Speak for yourself m8, I got my 3070 Ti at $50 less than msrp

[@bane1521]

you couldn't find them for msrp only because of mining. Now that mining is no longer profitable, you can find any card at msrp

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@@bane1521 why would I want to pay msrp for an outdated card though? Too little too late

[@E1666000]

@@GregoryShtevensh "outdated" lmao

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@@E1666000 yes its the rrp of 2+ years ago

[@DiabloMixXx]

Both cards are not worth the money if you have a 4K monitor. If such large sums are going to be given for cards, I would calculate between 4080 and 4090 in general in at least 40-50 titles.

[@stixktv__9999]

You can do 4k with a 1080p monitor. Games resolution isn't about the resolution of your screen. Paradoxaly it's better to render a game at 4k and then downscale it to 1440p( on a 1440p monitor of course), you keep all the details and sharpeness of the 4k and you get an absolut amazing anti-aliasing by downscaling. The resolution of your screen directly depends on the size of it, of course you don't want to play on a 52 inches TV at 1440p, but for a 27 inches monitor 1440p is just fine. I tried 4k on 1080p, 2k, 4k monitor and honestly a 24inches 1080p monitor get you the same result as a 32inches 4k monitor.

[@arturaspf2566]

4k and ray tracking is still a big challenge for both, so I not see anything, why would be worth to upgrade. Im still happy with my RTX 3070 at 1440p resolutions, smooth 80+ FPS in any game with ultra settings. To achieve same performance on 4k need about 1.2k euro, too crazy... So better i'm wait another gen 😊

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

4k and amd is powerpoint

[@warnacokelat]

When two companies realized they dont have to wait for the next mining craze to jack up the prices.

[@redinthesky1]

How good could this card (4070) have been with bigger bus and slightly more vram ? So its pretty great at 1440p raytracing. But its $900. Price/perf is going nowhere, and it was better before these cards came out /sigh. The 7900xt is alright, but its overpriced too, and should have been called a 7800xt

[@Xianngg]

this card is pretty much the 4080 with less vram, they indeed planned to call it 4080 12gb

[@Andytlp]

20gb vram vs 12 seems no brainer. Think xt is 900 so only 100 bucks less. rt isnt playable on either and rt isnt good enough. only 10% of people even play rt games as linus poll pointed out.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

It's perfectly playable on the 4070Ti if you use DLSS.

[@riskyadi36]

@@EarthIsFlat456 they are both bad in price Dude seriously?? $900 for GPU like that? Ill prefer my 3080 2nd hand

[@anuzahyder7185]

Its $799 n beats the sh*t out if xt. Dlss upscaling n dlss frame gen are there to help u play games at max settings with rt. What does amd have ? U need to drop resolution or play without rt. Oh u can use that blurry fsr which is shi**y in most of the games. In a couple of games, it looks good

[@nerbry8273]

Ofc 12gb vs 20gb is not a equal comparison. But infact nvidias vram is much faster than AMDs. It doesn't necessarily make up for 8gb vram, but you should keep that in mind. Besides all that the 4070ti is clearly made for wqhd not for 4k. And yes it's way too pricey for that.

[@Nockspielt]

The Rx 7900XT is almost on the level of a RTX 4080, only a few small percentage different. But 500 DOllars cheaper then the 4080.

[@i_cri_evertim]

I just noticed that Nvidia removed the VRAM size compression on their next gen cards.

[@tg-s9061]

What does that mean?

[@llSpacebookHabbo25ll]

3080 is dead,attention this 10 12 gb of video is dead in this year The last of us have 12-13 gb de vram in ultra This card minimum card recommended is the rx 6900xt 16 gb vram 4070ti is dead with gta 6 in ultra!

[@Michael45007]

Video cards are too extremely expensive. Guess it's time for me to buy a console. The first time ever too. Thanks the video card manufacturers for creating such a bad business that pushes the customers to seek for cheaper alternatives.

[@sergc76]

I found myself at a moment about to build a pc with the parts already but once I really thought about it the price was just too much for the performance , I waited a year for those prices too , I can wait another for more price drops

[@truereaper4572]

Your loss I guess?

[@truereaper4572]

@@sergc76 What performance are you looking for at what price?

[@Milchschndde]

we will miss you, but from a budget point of view I can totally understand you.

[@tolypolonty5766]

If you get a 6600xt then it'll perform better than a console. the whole system would cost more ofc but no massively more (couple hundren USD ish)

[@dipesh5607]

this guy used rx 7900xt with intel i3 13900K he is insane

[@KatakatoGames]

Guys im from the future , 7900xt will be 799us, and 4070ti will drop to the MSRP but for real. 7800xt 649, 7800 non xt 599, 4070 and 4060 ti pretty much the same so AMD will crush Nvidia this gen and FSR 3, Hyper RX will be wonderful.

[@anuzahyder7185]

4070ti is already at msrp. Amd will crush nvidia every gen in peoples dreams

[@mr.ballstone1914]

4070 ti=6950xt besides dlss and raytracing. Costs $200 more. Wtf is this market

[@infinity2z3r07]

vote with your wallet my friends

[@berkayjan11]

RX 7900 XT is already much better in rasterization so if they are head to head in RT, why would anyone choose 4070 Ti over 7900 XT?

[@victormerikov5869]

They are not head-to-head in RT, the best example is Cuberpunk. 4070ti more better with DLS3 Quality + RT. But if disable RT and DLS and FSR yes 7900xt is more productive on 10-20% but more expensive in my region on 10%. I chose for a long time what to buy and bought 4070ti and I love it. 2K RT+ DLSS Quality perfect picture with 80-100 fps.

[@Kclerie]

Yeah, sorry, Ray Tracing and Upscaling will NEVER be more important than pure rasterization.

[@redocious8741]

Nope. Rasterization will no longer be the focus in the coming years

[@antont4974]

Upscaling is literally the future and the present, 'cause every console game uses it. There is no reason not to use it if you are satisfied with the results

[@tikz.-3738]

No one cares about raster anymore we are getting past that it's stupid to use 90+ TFLOPs to bake lights and shadows in games and run them at 300 fps which is no different compared to 80-100 in story mode so sorry ur very wrong and outdated

[@EarthIsFlat456]

People from the 19th century: cars will NEVER replace horses.

[@alanaguero5486]

You should start to rethink that again. Rasterization depends on how stacked hardware GPU is (that's why now are this massive), but also has reached a limit because doesn't matter how many cuda cores/shader units you have, Ray Tracing and newer motor graphics with newer technologies needs dedicated AI hardware and software to work properly.

[@ehc7775]

Why do games need a stronger amd card but a weaker Nvidia car at recommended settings? Like 2070 vs 6800 xt for Star Field

[@billysquibb2389]

Designed for the hardware. Used to be splash animations at game startup. Powered by either company. They give the game designer microcodes or something.

[@nerbry8273]

The 4070ti is clearly a wqhd graphics card with 12gb and 192bit interface. You have to keep this in mind when u look at a 4k comparison. And yes indeed it's too expensive for only being a wqhd graphics card. But since most people still have "only" wqhd monitors or even full HD, it's not a bad option if you plan on longterm performance and are still on a wqhd monitor. Of course only if you have enough money laying around.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

While it's not made for 4K its performance at 4K is more than acceptable.

[@marcelosoares7148]

Even with the memory shortcomings it still manages to trade blows with the 7900 XT which has far greater memory related specs, i know the price isn't good but that's kinda impressive

[@entity43]

I have 4k monitor therefore I have bought 7900 xt today because 20gb vram and 320bit is quite important for me.The price of both cards is the same.I think 7900xt is more powerful than 4070ti.I watched a few test videos,the performance of 7900xt is between 4070ti and 4080.I have played "Scars above" recently with Sapphire 7900xt nitro+ and I got 144 fps with ultra settings with 4K monitor.I have ryzen 3700x cpu and 16gb 3600mhz ddr4 ram.The temperature of 7900xt was between 65 - 69C during the game.Ray tracing was off in the game.

[@Mc_Whitty]

What ever the team who made spider man mm did to give amd that kind of performance with rt on, need to hand that secret over to more game developers.

[@dane947]

To be fair, that 40 *60* ti is doing great. heh Other than price ofc.

[@michaelbyrd4004]

I don't understand how gamers keep their apartments or houses cool enough to run these systems. With these GPU's close to 300watts, 50 or 60 plus watts for the CPU, heat from power supply, and the rest of the system components, a little heat from the monitor, and you have a floor heater whether you wanted one or not.

[@omulamfibie]

I wish I chose better when I bought my 3060 Ti in october 2021. Prices were skyhigh and I payed 1200$ for an MSI Gaming Z Trio 3060 Ti. (also, prices in my country are higher in general due to taxes and customs). BUT, if I waited a few more months, for that money I could have gotten a 6800xt, which is miles better than a 3060 Ti in normal rasterization. I actually couldn't care less about ray tracing, as the visual bonus it brings is so insignificant compared to the performance cut that it's not even funny. So, for anyone that doesn't care about the marketing gimmick that is called ray tracing, AMD is the no-brainer choice. Especially now that they have added video encoding to the 7000 series, so they're pretty good for video editors as well.

[@accelerator5524]

1200? phhahaha

[@coolninjaz567]

@@accelerator5524 lol

[@omulamfibie]

@@accelerator5524 yeah, 1200. Those were the prices here at that time and even if I tried to get one from US for cheaper, I would have payed the difference in shipping+customs tax. "phahahaha" did you actually read my comment or just saw "3060 Ti" and "1200$" and your brain shut off?

[@accelerator5524]

@@omulamfibie i read your whole comment and laughed about your brain shutting off when buying a card for 1200USD. such an idiot, that deserves what he got

[@OSTemli]

That's nothing to my country we have to buy 3060 ti still at 2000$ almost

[@miguelcicerotureck3617]

Hi guys, I am not a PC Guy. Is it worth to pay 800 dollars for a RX 7900 XT today?

[@BenchmarksIT]

Paired with an AMD cpu you get SAM enabled, and that itself boosts up performances by 1-7% depending on the games.

[@iorianam8070]

But u can get low fps if 7900xtx with amd cpu. Bcs i9 13900K it's the stronger cpu on this era.

[@BenchmarksIT]

@@iorianam8070 this is false, even the 5800X3D beats that cpu in most games

[@iorianam8070]

@@BenchmarksIT 5800X never beats i9 13900k babe. 💅

[@beezle1976]

Intel has the same thing, but it's called ReBAR there.

[@beezle1976]

@@iorianam8070 Not true. The 5800x3d does beat the i9-13900k on occassion. Its not common, but it's more often than the "never" you've suggested.

[@mkatakm]

Close performances with 4070 ti having much superior RT performance.

[@capetamenino]

Close? Amd is winning in every game, only losing with rt enabled

[@wizarian]

Nvidia and AMD have an agreement to fight consumers with their prices. We will fight back not buying their new cards.

[@ebbebb91]

Hmm probably gong to wait for the 8000 AMD when the 9000 AMD is about to release to upgrade that. My 6900 XT is going to get worked out for the next 4-5 years

[@detonex1080]

is the RX 7900 XT is 8% faster than the RTX 4070 TI, but if you turn on Ray tracing the RTX 4070 ti wins.

[@unpacker9521]

Almost the same story between 7900xtx and 4080 but only 4% faster raster but the 4080 is $200 more expensive while the 4070ti is $100 cheaper then 7900xt. The real criminal price is the 4080 and all gpus are too expensive not just the 4070ti.

[@lelouchabrilvelda1794]

5 or 6 games only they test and 8% faster on 7900xt Some reviews test the gpus in 50 to 100 games and the 7900xt is fastest by 35% over 4070ti.

[@bslothed3211]

@@unpacker9521 Well I got 4090 which fucks ya'll up in a FPS battle lmao

[@AmirEpix]

​@@bslothed3211look at this rich bastard

[@venzoah]

Not caring about ray tracing is kind of a bad move. Most major engines support it and with Unreal 5, ray tracing is the default method for global illumination (Lumen). You are shooting yourself in the foot by sticking with rasterization in 2023.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

enjoy 30fps with 4090 at 4k in cyberpunk max raytracing. full raytraced games are still at least a decade away. the fact that 15-25years old games fully raytraced fully max out even an rtx 4090 tells you enough. now fully raytrace a game like cyberpunk , you might end up at 5fps

[@Reapavon]

not really because ras performs much better

[@antont4974]

Agree, ray tracing and a lot of new optimisation techniques are great

[@truereaper4572]

It's not like amd has bad RT, it's on par with the 30 series. And not very many people use RT.

[@alangrg4491]

Only the 4090 ray tracing numbers look good.

[@Thebeardedbios]

We have decided to not shave until GPU prices come down in protest. Take that Corpos!!!

[@84sloniu]

AMD could have gone for the market share but the greed buried this. Now, they are fighting with Intel. AMD AiB models cost as much as rtx 4080 and their MSRP is a fantasy unless you take reference half-products into consideration.

[@SplittingOfPrides]

12gb VRAM in future will affect players. 20gb VRAM is better, ray tracing is cool but it's not worth it. I'll skip 2 or 3 generations, then buy graphics card for ray tracing. Now I only need rasterization performance and a lot of Vram.

[@Old-Boy_BEbop]

bought the 7900xt today reference model no hot spot 110c issue and its $250 cheaper than the 4070ti and the benchmarks score is insane, really edges the 3090ti... sadly my 1080ti evga model has reach its end of service for so many years and the 7900xt is the exact same size as the 1080ti... amd got that gpu size shands down, fits into a small form build beautifully.

[@husicjasmin]

Interesting how wildly different prices can be around the world. In my country 4070Ti is 350-360$ cheaper

[@Old-Boy_BEbop]

@@husicjasmin crazy times we are living in for sure!

[@douma8037]

in my country both of them are the same price, so im confused on what to buy

[@gavinfullen4282]

I'm currently building my new AM5 PC with a Ryzen 7 7700. I'll still be using my old GPU until the greens and reds stop taking the piss!

[@GuidoDePalma]

please repeat it in 1440p or uwqhd

[@derechtedavidtto3948]

Wqhd is 1440p

[@GuidoDePalma]

@@derechtedavidtto3948 3440x1440, do u call it ultrawide maybe?

[@dattru]

The best choice you can make is to get a used 3090ti or a 6950xt

[@andreacitro4274]

Please make a rtx 4070 t vs 3080 ti comparison!.

[@jooyichen]

No RT - 4070ti = 3080ti RT on - 4070ti = somewhere between 3090 and 3090 ti Also, 4070ti in Triple A games is a 1440p card. It is limited by its 12gb VRAM and 192bit memory. It will have stuterring issues.

[@anuzahyder7185]

4070ti is between 3090 n 3090ti n beats 3090ti handily with dlss3. Really good card. Slightly overpriced

[@basicuser54]

Title: 8 games 4K RT Video: 3 games with RT

[@nickbaxter3987]

Just sold my old rig with a 1080ti and put the 4070ti in my new build gotta say it's an impressive card. The fact that it can go toe to toe with a 3090ti and at 3rd of the price was enough for me to get it

[@natsu78999]

but still 12gb vram,3090ti win in every game thats exceed 12gb vram game usage

[@jamesg8246]

​@@natsu78999 Which is a rare thing. Look at these tests at 4k....12Gb seems to be either enough or more than enough with lots to spare.

[@GalaxyJonez]

@@jamesg8246 I don't know about "more than enough" - still the issue is more about the bus 😜 while it is capable at 4K it is much more targeted towards 1440p. If you're a 4K gamer you're better off selling a kidney & going for 4080/4090 I think. Imagine if the 4070 ti had a 256 bit bus though 🤤

[@jamesg8246]

@@GalaxyJonez I was speaking about the amount of vram, not the bus width. It is interesting how well today's 70 series card does with a 192bit bus where in the past it would have been a 256bit bus. A lot has to do with how much faster the new GDDR6X memory is. It's able to cram more data through a smaller bus. Clearly as you suggested if the 4070ti had a 256bit memory bus the performance would have been better, but probably good enough that it would encroach on the 4080 or it wouldn't allow them to sell the 4060ti or 4070 non-ti at 600 bucks because there would be too much of a performance gap.

[@GalaxyJonez]

@@jamesg8246 yup, agreed 🙂 it does perform surprisingly well even with 192-bit and with "only" 12 GB vram. Question is how future proof those 12gb will be, especially for 4K gamers. 4070 ti does seems to be in the sweet spot for 1440p though - which is what I use. I'm planning on upgrading from my 2080 super rig in a few months. Hopefully these wacky prices come down if only a little bit. On the latest AM5 stuff too.. 🙏

[@harrychenhaoxia7621]

I find it's really hard to choose AMD card simply because Nvidia has dlss. Dlss 4k performance is really good and can almost match native and you get 80% performance boost. Unless AMD card is much faster and offers a similar price, I wouldn't go for AMD. And dlss 3 is much better than fsr.

[@shining_buddha]

But 4070 Ti costs 800$ 🤔

[@oscarmetal]

AMD dont give a f*/k about Radeon gpus. Each generation passing by and they dont give a f/*k. Its all about processors. They wont save us from nvidia for sure, let see if Intel at least try it. Ray tracing performance was of vital importance to stand a chance in this generation.

[@stillcold]

the 4060ti and the 7800 non x versión seem nice

[@saricubra2867]

If the 4060Ti has 12GB, good, if not, DOA.

[@antonirizki961]

8Gb for 4060ti is a high probability But you're right it should be 12Gb VRAM

[@rrsharizam]

4060 Ti will destroy AMD fanboys

[@findgod...]

@@rrsharizam lol no

[@cyranova1666]

I still remember GTX 1080 launched with 600$. but in my country it $1000. and it's worth it. Till this day I still run GTX 1080. no problem at all. and then. when these GPU comming. those price just absolute shiiitttt ass.

[@naganaga3209]

First like from India ❤️❤️

[@dem0_o14]

ok

[@Ultra_Sauce]

I get that 4K is demanding but the fact they can barely hit 60fps on CP in raw rasterization is an embarrassment of a generational improvement