RTX 4080 vs RTX 3080: The Ultimate Comparison

[@danielowentech]

Small error in the video: At 6:54 the footage is still showing Ultrawide 3440x1440p when I spoke and labeled it as if it had switched down to normal 2560x1440. If you are curious, at that same scene at 2560x1440 the 3080: 65fps 4080: 92fps ~42% faster

[@zperdek]

Just to let you know. Your was the first 4080 review that KZbin informed me about from all of my subscribed reviewers.

[@lafalamirr10dede81]

My first 4080 review to watch BUT change the thumbnail! IT looks like one before that's not good

[@Anthony-fg4bv]

What’s crazy is the difference in one gpu to the next in the same series. I have a 12GB 3080 and at max settings at the same scene with DLSS off, I am getting 77 fps and it’s running at 66C. Granted I am drawing 390 watts but I’ve undervolted it and upped the clocks.

[@mrshinobigaming8447]

Rtx 4080 Giving 75fps on average with Rt ultra dlss performance While RX 7900XTX gives upto 62fps With RT ULTRA FSR performance officialy In benchmarks given by AMD itself So it's 18% slower than 4080 in cyberpunk rt ultra with 17% less price and 8gb more vram so it all depends on user now you want raytracing or more vram with 200$ discount

[@buildyourcomputer]

The 6000 series looks great just from price to performance currently with 6800xt near $500.

[@kennyg5326]

Best part of the review "if you are okay not getting a good deal you can certainly buy this!" Haha that sums up the gpu perfectly. Thanks for the review! Awesome to see day 1 review on your channel!!

[@zperdek]

That's it. There are always people who are trying flush their money down the toilet, way that everybody knows about it. It's like peacock tail.

[@Sal3600]

Peak performance is all that matters. Only rx480 owners care about price to performance metrics

[@user-tr2dh4xx6u]

i had to buy my 3080 for $1300. i was new to pc gaming and had everything but a gpu so i was SOL with the shortages.

[@foreversolvent5334]

@@user-tr2dh4xx6u bought my asus tuf 3080 oc for 1,727 before tax. it was either that or go without a pc until prices dropped. my imac gave up on me. and what a time for it to tap out on me. peak gpu prices. xD This pc is a beast and since i overpayed for it i'm gonna wait until the rtx 6090 to do a full upgrade. so 2027. :)

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

I bought a 4080!! love it!!

[@Pongomuffin]

Thank you for having your own review format. You definitely add welcome details compared to other techtubers!

[@danielowentech]

Yeah there's no point just doing the same bar graphs the bigger channels do. Smaller channels need to find their own angle to be relevant imo

[@Zoduk]

@@danielowentech 3440x1440 testing is also a differentiator, lots of high end owners will go for ultrawide QD OLED, something lacking from other big channels.

[@cutebrute925]

Thanks so much for providing 3440x1440p benchmarks in this review and the rationale behind it. High performance at that resolution is where this card makes the most sense to me.

[@masterlee1988]

Yep, he should do more benchmarks on 3440x1440 more often!

[@enricod.7198]

Also ultrawide is freaking amazing. Having tried both, it's way better than 4k. You hve less pixels and a more immersive experience, expecially in open world games and fps games, its so much better than 16:9 once you try it in person.

[@enricod.7198]

Also ultrawide is freaking amazing. Having tried both, it's way better than 4k. You hve less pixels and a more immersive experience, expecially in open world games and fps games, its so much better than 16:9 once you try it in person.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Same! Imo it's the best resolution and aspect ratio for high end performance pc builds rn, having the best ratio between performance, visual quality, and price. Probably in 5 years comparable "8k ultrawide" will take its place, but rn 3440x1440 is definitely a great sweet spot.

[@masterlee1988]

@@enricod.7198 This is exactly why I want to try it next year.

[@superboss7403]

Your analysis is great as always , kinda tells the overall picture clearly . Glad i am watching this inspite what other reviewers are doing

[@nilsenhorning6775]

Love the ultrawide comparisons, very much looking forward to you doing this with a 7900XTX vs the 4080 in the future :)

[@thejackimonster9689]

I think even the 7900XT comes close to the performance of the 4080 if AMD's numbers are accurate. In Cyberpunk 2077 4K max settings with rasterization it should give 60fps average states AMD and the 4080 gives you 62fps as shown in the video. So I think the XTX model will beat the 4080 in rasterization without issues since it performs about 15% better than the XT model. It's still interesting to see how they compare with ray tracing, upscaling and compute tasks. But I think it's pretty impressive that AMD might actually offer something comparable for 200-300$ less with potentially even lower power budget. However I still see a lot of Blender artists picking up Nvidia GPUs. ^^'

[@teacoffee5847]

@@thejackimonster9689 yeah man, though I am waiting out for the 4090fe's to come back in stock as I believe the 4080 is a rip off. If amd could give top quality results for raytracing, 3d model building in blender and high fps in vr then I would buy an amd card. I currently have a 3080fe and vr is a bit of a struggle

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@teacoffee5847 I mean AMD cards are totally fine for 3D modeling in Blender. Don't misunderstand me there. ^^' The main advantage of Nvidia GPUs in Blender is just the accelerated CUDA and OptiX rendering. Besides that you get way more VRAM for your money from Nvidia and capacity matters more in big 3D scenes than speed there. Blender is also some area which could turn heavily in the future since there is a Vulkan renderer in development and AMD is working on ROCm for rendering which should come close to CUDA performance when it's ready. But currently Nvidia is the better choice for artist when time is money in rendering. ^^' For VR I would even favor AMD with the new cards (RDNA3). Because Nvidia doesn't offer you an USB-C port as output. So you need to run an adapter or two cables if you don't have a wireless headset. Overall VR shouldn't make use of any ray tracing yet given that latency is even more important in VR. So you can't use any new DLSS 3.0 or FSR3 to make up for the relative slow ray tracing in comparison with rasterization because it would increase latency. Also I would expect that most VR applications won't get too graphically intense. Otherwise they wouldn't perform on the standalone headsets as well (the whole reason the metaverse still looks like Wii graphics ^^'). So in that case the display port 2.1 offer from AMD could actually make sense. Because when you think about it, you might want to have highest possible resolution and refresh rate per eye in newer headsets. I would think this is a way more realistic use case than 8K gaming. ^^'

[@JoMaMaz]

@@thejackimonster9689 So, one of the ONLY last few pieces of my new PC build for VR sim racing on an HP Reverb G2 (which I got on sale today for $299 😁☺️) is a GPU, but I don't know what to buy... I agree these prices are ridiculous, but as someone still rocking a GT 740, I HAVE to upgrade to something, and it has to be something good enough to run VR sim racing with nicer settings on an HP Reverb G2. What am I to do? 😕 I had considered a 3080 12GB or Ti variant, but as seen in the post you responded to, his 3080 is struggling some. If I go AMD, they don't seem to bode as well with VR from some reviews, I could wait for the 7900XTX, but goodness gracious, $999 is still a LOT for a GPU... BUT, you make some good points about the Display Port 2.1. Is the 7900XTX the way to go? And I know they're supposed to have "plenty," but I feel like there is PTSD of trying to buy new GPUs when they come out, and if I wait all the way until Dec. 13th and can't get one...sigh Help, please!

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@JoMaMaz I don't know how availability will be with AMDs cards. But I would think when they come out, you can still get a 3080. Honestly I think even $899 for the 7900XT is too expensive. But when they come out and sell well, other GPUs should automatically lower prices (not sure whether Nvidia will lower prices for the 40-series though but all others should do it). Because realistically the 6950XT needs to be at $600 probably when the new cards can be bought. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to buy. All the other older AMD cards will need to lower prices as well then and once you get a 6800 XT at 400~500 bucks, a 3080 needs to be cheaper as well to not be ridiculous. So I think waiting for the new release will likely get you the better deal, no matter which GPU you pick. I would recommend looking for specs by other people playing what you are looking for currently and whether they state it's good enough. Overall it also depends on which headset you use, which resolution and refresh rate you target. Oh also be aware that VR can cause motion sickness and other side effects no matter how good your hardware is. Some people are just susceptible to that. So before putting a lot of money into VR, I would always recommend trying it out somewhere else. I would compare it to something like a rollercoaster in a sense that just because some people throw up, doesn't mean it's bad to everyone. But you should figure out whether you stand it or not before paying for it. ^^'

[@stephanhart9941]

Congrats, Daniel, on the Day 1 coverage!!! Hope you can get a test bench soon with AM5. 13th Gen is a great option but a dead platform.

[@danielowentech]

New system incoming for sure

[@Richard-tj1yh]

What of this platform longevity if you end up paying price of 2 intel motherboards for it?

[@stephanhart9941]

@@Richard-tj1yh you won't

[@Mark-kr5go]

@@Richard-tj1yh intel doesn't have an answer for x3d yet, which the ryzen 7000 series is recieving at ces 2023

[@teamtechworked8217]

@narpuppy420 so you are still on a 6700k?

[@slimefudge]

Let's go Daniel! Straight out the gate with quality detailed comparison! HYPE!

[@cybersecuritydeclassified4793]

Another great video. Are you an educator by chance? I appreciate the methodical way you able to explain without going over the top. My 11 year old loves your channel as well. Thanks!

[@TheLongWind]

Yes, he's a High School Math Teacher

[@mikeoes1]

Daniel is amazing, he is quickly getting up there in quality of content with digital foundry but as a one man show. Well done!

[@aaz1992]

I don't know about that but still great content

[@jZamora87]

Well, with Daniel, you get more of an Educated opinion, with Digital Foundry you get a scientific opinion, I enjoy both, but sometimes I just want to hear words that I understand

[@Tofi_ytchannel]

Really great content, now after watching a 40 min video, we even get to know that a newer, more advanced and more expensive GPU can do about 30% better than its predecessor

[@charliedetviler8340]

Super solid and fair review. I really appreciate you showing the prices from PCPartpicker instead of PCPartCherryPicker like everyone else. For some reason, everyone's got their own weird agenda when they're talking about current pricing. It's refreshing to see a reviewer show real-time pricing.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

This is a really good analysis of the situation. Thanks. I will wait a while for the prices to really settle.

[@Pisscan]

Prices are not settling any time soon 💀

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@Pisscan doubt that. The global economic situation is getting pretty bad and crypto mining with GPUs is dead: there will be opportunities

[@BBWahoo]

I will wait for the 4080ti

[@Pisscan]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 copium

[@Pisscan]

@@BBWahoo 4080ti will be even worse value… either wait and see rdna 3’s real world performance, 30 series during Black Friday sales or a 4090 at retail. (only pay retail, because even these prices are scalped by nvidia)

[@796Psycho]

Switched from a 1060 6gb to the infamous 3080 12gb before the prices went through the roof 1month ago, glad I did :) Im only aiming for 2k in the future and it will do a good job over the years!

[@iamdopeasfcuk]

same, except i bought in early september where 3080's were under $700. i remember seeing videos on youtube about how everyone should wait until the new gpu announcements to buy. well, those ppl that waited now have to pay more lol.

[@christophervanzetta]

My 3080 10GB does 4K pretty well. Perfect for high refresh rates on my 1440P monitor and awesome on my 4K TV at 60fps. Finally got around to undervolting my gpu to a sweet spot where it actually improves performance with a decrease in power draw.

[@senti2175]

Prices have gone higher?

[@smcremix8791]

@@christophervanzetta Me 2, although the 3080 is awesome coming from a rtx 2070 but some days i feel ungreatful & want a 4070ti 🥲

[@tonye2920]

Picked up a 3080 12gb brand new for like $820 5 months ago. Coming from a console guy performance is night and day lol

[@thomassvevo]

My good gosh THANK YOU for showing 3440 x 1440 performance. I'm tired of trying to guess what the performance of a card would be on my ultrawide finding a middle ground between 1440p and 4k

[@masterlee1988]

Yep, I'm planning to get a ultrawide that's 3440x1440 as well in a few months from now so something like this is useful.

[@tugaykaya7738]

@@masterlee1988 the samsung one with qdoled that comes out in 15th december?

[@masterlee1988]

@@tugaykaya7738 Oh I had no idea about that one!

[@tugaykaya7738]

@@masterlee1988 yessirr

[@spinm0ve]

I think the most comforting thing about this review is the fact that my RTX 3080 should be plenty sufficient for at least the next 2-3 years so long as I don’t run into VRAM limitations. NVIDIA bumped their head on pricing this generation.

[@zZiL341yRj736]

Dude in 2023 it's already failing in most of the game. It's not gonna last in 2-3 years.

[@spinm0ve]

@@zZiL341yRj736 Yup, you were absolutely right. Once I started seeing the shenanigans with LoU Pt1. and HL I sold off my 3080 for a 6800XT. I'll ride that horse until it wheezes from exhaustion. The prices are just too insane these days.

[@bjaurelio]

I love your comparison of what settings you need to use to get a 60 fps plus gameplay experience at 4K. No one else is doing that comparison. Because it's not like for like, you can't graph it. There's obvious value in the like for like comparisons, but looking at what settings are needed for similar framerates is useful for comparing the likely use case most people will use with the cards.

[@blugrave4345]

At what part of the video is this?

[@bjaurelio]

@@blugrave4345 go the the realistic 4k settings bookmark

[@darudesandstorm7002]

reminds me of when hardocp used to do their 'best playable settings' benchmarks back in the day.

[@venzoah]

The most impressive thing about the 4080 is power consumption. It's draws about the same amount of power as my 3070 but offers 2x the performance. Incredible performance per watt here.

[@sailyourface]

If the 4080 wasn’t 70% the price of a 3080 this would be the performance I was hoping I was waiting for.

[@bladebk5537]

imo would go for a 3090 not that much more expensive

[@haziee3108]

You mean 170%?

[@Delayeed9]

Literally the worst value for performance launch that I have ever seen. I say if you want good performance just get a 3080... That card is still a beast.

[@bladebk5537]

@@Delayeed9 not enough perf and it s not that much difference in price, i ve found a 3080 ti more expensive than an Asus tuf 3090 lol

[@marcelosoares7148]

@@Lug-L he's using RT Psycho settings which are extremely demanding

[@Category5]

Congrats on putting out the best of the 4080 reviews. I knew it was a pass, but this confirms it. I have a 3090 that OCs like a 3090Ti, and it's hard to make an argument for an upgrade at 4K 120Hz.

[@michaelangst6078]

@@George-um2vc A 4090 is it.... ''FAM'''

[@gordonyz4]

3090 already need 60+ refresh on your 4k monitor for best results

[@petrofsko]

@@gordonyz4 I'm stuck with an evga 3090/5950x got in my prebuilt bought on 10/11/2021 Upgrade from i7 930@4ghz /Rx 480 8gb.Can't afford 4090 couldn't fit into corsair airflow mid tower prices in UK horrific my cpu still £580and gpu £1350

[@lordium1848]

Same thing with my 3080. I overclocked it till the 3090 base performance stats and I don’t even need more, because I’m a 2K gamer. 😊

[@Nick-4K]

I sold my 2080ti for 1200 after I got a 3080 at 700 during covid. I don't plan to upgrade for awhile unless 5080 is godly and affordable

[@Powerman293]

I think this your best video yet. Glad to see you get early samples!

[@Sacdaddicus]

Glad to see how far you've come. Day 1 Reviews will be big for you my man. Keep up the great work.

[@Sirfrummel]

Congrats on your first launch video. I enjoy hearing your analysis. I watched your video before GN 😂

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Good video. The rtx 4080 would have been a great card at.. $799. You would have to be out of your mind to pay $1200+ for it. RTX 3080 launch buyers didn't know how good they had it at $799. Who is the demographic for this $1200+ rtx 4080 card? 🤔

[@pwnomega4562]

3080 was 699 and so should the 4080

[@ivantsipr]

If only it was $1200, only 3 models (4 counting the FE) have the $1200 MSRP, every other model is over $1200 up to $1600 on a few of them.

[@ogaimon3380]

yeah but we know it was never going to be since nvidia still selling rtx3000serie

[@pentiumdeusex-machina4645]

Who is the demographic? Scalpers and crypto miners. Nvidia clearly made a bet a year or two ago, during R&D for the 40-series, that the Ethereum boom would last into the beginning of 2023. That's why they created graphics cards that would be extremely powerful, but expensive and with drawbacks (size, power draw on the 4090, an unproven power connector) that would hurt gamers more than miners. When Ethereum went proof of stake, leaving miners scrambling to find other coins that would at least help them break even so they didn't have to admit that they were on the surface of a bubble that just popped, Nvidia went for their backup plan of throttling supply hard to at leasy keep scalpers in the loop, to make sure they could still sell everything, both the 30-series and the 40-series, way above MSRP. Nvidia can get away with it because of their commanding market lead. I just hope AMD realizes that a distant second place won't get anywhere doing that, and has enough of the Radeon RX 7000 series available at launch.

[@Hellsingproification]

@@pentiumdeusex-machina4645 extremely well explanation dude that's exactly what i think.

[@James-un8io]

been waiting for your first early review

[@CopperheadsGaming]

Thank you for including ultrawide! not enough add it. Way to keep me coming back!

[@myamaha62]

I think it's awesome that you can have day one reviews. I like how you run the reviews.

[@cosmicsteve8370]

Correct the prices because 4090 costs $2300, 4080 costs $1700 and 3080 costs $950

[@Ariies]

Im a 1080p 240hz competitive fps player, that also likes to enjoy some singleplayer games at times like Cyberpunk. So thank you for including 1080p in your benchmarks. I have recently upgraded to a 12600k form a 4670k (Valorant is my main game currently) and am currently looking for a GPU, mainly because I want to be able to stream and play Apex Legends at 240fps (the GTX 1060 6gb I own doesnt come even close to 240fps even without the stream on). The new AV1 encoder is mainly the thing thats making me want to wait for the 4070 or 4060 instead of buying a 3070 right now (to make the stream look nicer, might as well, if im getting a new GPU anyway). Whats ur opinion on the AV1 is it worth the wait?

[@Ariies]

​@Jonas Jonaitis It also has AV1 but I have never had an AMD card before, just feel more comefortable with Nvidia, will wait for someone to compare the two encoders when reviews start popping up, the price of AMD does make it a lot more competitive and for the first time Im actually interested in AMD because the Nvidia prices are ridiculous

[@vonelreysusano2551]

I've heard somewhere that apex runs bad on 200+ fps, tho not sure on this bc I only have a 144 hz screen

[@Ariies]

@@vonelreysusano2551 Ive heard about that issue, but i think it got fixed since other apex streamers like Aceu are all on 240 now

[@Edmundostudios]

I didn’t think the 12GB 3080 has a retail price. 700 was for the 10GB version

[@KenShew325]

Great review. Appreciate you showing ultra wide performance.

[@valkan6893]

Thanks a lot for testing at 3440x1440, realy appreciate the effort

[@daviddouillet4138]

Daniel, great video as always. You may need to invest in an external capture card whenever possible (I know other expenses have priority but it even out the plain field and make your measurements more accurate). Keep it up mate.

[@danielowentech]

Incoming

[@xezee]

Great work. You're the only guy who cares about the best resolution (3440x1440) :)

[@RubbingPotatoes]

1440p ultrawide is where it's at and the best experience while keeping up with performance. 4k is a bit overkill.

[@itscalebgreen]

4080 on 1440p ultrawide monitor running at 120-165 fps is *chefs kiss*

[@MenkoDany]

I think that when the next 5000 series or whatever comes out, the 4080 and 4080 Ti will be good "budget" used high-end cards. The 16Gb VRAM is gonna be key once gamers move to higher resolutions and especially high resolution + high refresh rate

[@NoChill_Gill]

I mean , if you want the new GPU and more frames , be my guest and get the 4080 but literally the 3080 is still a good buy 💯

[@kaisyaya8492]

4080 are now 1500ish including taxes, while the 3080 is around 700 , so 110% prices increase for 40% at best performance uplift , yikes.

[@surfx4804]

Megga vid! That must have taken ages to do all that testing and also edit it all together. Many thanks! Would love to hear the behind the scenes how well it went vs how slick it looks.

[@orionizaqt]

If you don't care about Ray Tracing or DLSS 3, then I think the 7900XT or XTX are just gonna be a better deal honestly. It doesn't seem like buying Nvidia is worth it past a 3070 atm unless you want a 4090

[@fatidicusaeternus6498]

Seems that Nvidia learned from the 30 series reviews saying going past the 3080 was poor value with such small performance increase so they really squeezed in a lot of cuda cores past the point of diminishing returns to distinguish the 4090 from the 4080. People saw this cuda core discrepancy and pre-judged the 4080 to be poor value at its MSRP.

[@Zoduk]

Thanks for the ultrawide addition! A lot of people who are into the 4090 will be buying a AW3423, considered the best gaming monitor, which is great with these new GPUs

[@calumgray]

Yay for review samples! Hope your first day one video performs well!

[@KinkyJalepeno]

I'd instantly sub if someone started doing these benchmark vids with a focus on VR performance.... Good vid though, I'll be in the market for a new rig to go with a Pimax Crystal at the end of the year, and 4080 seems to be a sweat-spot.

[@swag2053]

really the only difference between the 3080 and 4080 is the prize

[@Q36BN]

8:27 Did you guys noticed how much more efficient 4080 is compared to 3080 at this "idle" screen? It's like 4080 - 48 Watts VS. 3080 - 113 Watts. It's interesting because both of the cards are running at "40% of power". This might mean that nvidia is trying to optimizing power usage at low power levels, meaning laptop cards might be mighty impressive this time. I'm sure AMD will be also good in mobile this time, they said this multiple times, they wanted to be power efficient. We just have to wait and see who will win :)

[@umbles7007]

It's so crazy seeing the price difference. One generation, just shy of being double the price.

[@SnowconeYA]

*blinks and Daniel gets thousands of subscribers* WHAT?! is... life finally getting more fair!? He's gonna have at least 100k by the end of the year! Best tech channel bar none.

[@stevenpike7857]

For gaming, maybe not, for 3D artists, ABSOLUTELY.

[@tofu_golem]

This entire generation of graphics cards is a deliberate attempt to destroy the PC-building and PC-gaming hobbies, and I'm actually OK with that. I really wanted to upgrade my graphics card because I wanted to get a 4K monitor (mostly for non-gaming purposes, as the bump from 1080p to 1440p is much greater than 1440p to 2160p when it comes to gaming). So the only cards that were really worth considering were the 4080 and the 7900 XTX. Those cards are so badly priced that I cannot see a time when I would be willing to make that purchase. Because I'm not buying a new graphics card, I'm also not buying a new PSU and also not buying a new monitor. Nvidia and AMD have not only hurt their own sales, but the sales of other parts of their market as well. And even if it were worth my while to upgrade, most games these days are just not fun anymore because they are nothing more than vehicles for getting you to buy crap in various sleazy monetization schemes. To be fair, I'm actually kind of glad. Because I've lost interest in what was a beloved hobby for decades (the first computer I built was a '486), other parts of my life are improving. I will miss those hobbies a lot, but I'm probably better off not indulging them, and clearly the companies that sell things to people with those hobbies no longer want their market to exist, so everyone wins.

[@Dcully]

Great video , still not sure what would be the best upgrade form my 1080Ti for 1440P gaming , not fussed about rtx.

[@michaelbone6894]

I like how you show what setting you would need to reduce to get the same frame rate, since that is what people actually do in practice. High settings tend to be almost as good visually as ultra, but ultra is generally poorly optimized so frame rate takes a big hit that is completely disproportionate to the quality increase.

[@BBWahoo]

Volumetric Fog moment

[@Eternalduoae]

Congrats on getting a review sample! Good review! :)

[@vextakes]

What’s interesting is nvidia must have improved the dlss pipeline for the 40 series cos it gets a larger performance bump than the 3080

[@senti2175]

It also degrades the quality by larger margin and adds artifects.

[@s0ad29]

Amazing low power draw from the 4080 😮

[@watermelon1221]

glad you emphasize that products should have better performance per dollar as the successor comes out, rather than keep paying more every year. Ultrawide benchmarks ftw

[@reloadingdontshoot1]

Nope, sticking to the 3090 Xtreme WB I got for $700USD that does just fine Already knew the 3090ti would be maybe 5-10% worse than the 4080 for $100's less; 90 and 90ti's are the way right now. No one is gaming at 8K, for which the top end 40 series is truly for Up here in Canada on the used market: 3090ti's are going for $1200-1400 CAD ($900-1050 USD) 3090's are going for $1000 CAD ($750 USD) 3080's for $600 CAD ($450 USD) You're either scalping, a complete idiot or just want clout if you buy a 40 series card right now. RIP 40 series

[@T595955i]

Yep!!! Used Market, for higher end Nvidia RTX3000s and AMD RX6000s, is where it's at (while you can).

[@ELBoomerTV]

You guys reckon a 3060ti around 600$ would be a good buy, or wait another year.

[@T595955i]

@@ELBoomerTV Rigt now you can get used RTX3060Ti , in mint condiition, on EBAY under 330$ at "buy it now" prices from trusted sellers. Told ya... used market is where it's at!

[@ELBoomerTV]

@@T595955i Thank you for replying, unfortunately I'm not in the USA, the reason prices are higher is due to customs and shipping, do you reckon a used card would be safe in general, returns will be really tough for me, also, do you think a 3060ti is a good call in general even at 500$ to 600$ point in my case.

[@T595955i]

@@ELBoomerTV I have an RTX3060Ti and it's a superb GPU for 1440P (mine is undervolted, runs pretty much same as an RTX3070), but I don't think you should pay that much for it now. I'd seriously consider getting a used one - even with shipment you'll manage to get one under 375,00 USD / EUR.

[@winter6892]

Love the review, glad you got a review sample!

[@disaster6467]

Someone send this man a 13900k he gives the best reviews and comparisons can't have him cpu limited lol, I'm still getting a 4090 but I'm gonna wait till nvidia has a solution for the melted connectors.

[@TakeshiInazuma]

The 4080 is performing where a 4070 should be. The xx70 class supposed to beat the previous 90 to model by 10%

[@scanning7567]

Hey mate I'm enjoying seeing your channel grow. You deserve it! Thanks for uploading so frequently as I watch your videos pretty much every day. Keep up the awesome work :)

[@Varil92]

The point is that 1200$ is terrible performance/price ratio. And 1200$ in best case scenario. Here in Europe we will have at least 1600€. Obscene.

[@PetrHipik]

What about replacing the 3080ti with the 4080? I have ultrawide resolution with HDR and i like moding games and occasionally hit the limit of less than 60fps. Sometimes I like to play Vr, specifically skyrim vr where I have 300 or more mods and it is sometimes noticeable in larger scenes. Is it worth the upgrade for me?

[@AntiOnYT]

Thanks for the ultra wide benchmarks 👏👏

[@unstanic]

Why below 60fps is considered unacceptable? Especially for AAA games? It’s not long ago that I was super enjoying 4K ~30fps on my ps4.

[@soulsborne84]

Amazing your videos!!! Specially those ultrawide is very useful for me!! Thanks and amazing work comparing those gpus!!!!!

[@L0rd_0f_War]

I agree with your conclusions and analysis, but what sort of a question is in the thumbnail 'is the extra $400 worth it' when comparing last gen to the new gen card??? They aren't suppose to be in linear progression (unless someone thinks like Nvidia - which is BS). I know you speak about it in your video, but why choose a thumbnail like this? it would make sense when comparing 'value' between same gen cards even between different card makers, which you have done in the past and its cool. Well done on the review itself.

[@dualisticmix]

Awesome vid! Waiting in the 7900XTX to see how it does as that is the card i am getting. Excited

[@leonardocostenaro]

Great work Daniel! Very detailed and clarifying. Hope you can get the AMD's 7000 series to compare.

[@GeorgeTsiros]

1:55 bro the spikes in the frametime graph do _not_ mean the motion will be stuttery. you are completely ignoring the _content_ of the frame being sent to the monitor. yes, indeed, _most_ of the time it will _most likely_ mean that there _will_ be stutter but it is not _enough_ stutter is visible _not_ when a frame takes longer to produce, it is visible when: the _combination_ of time _and_ image content does not match what your eyes expect. suppose the following frametimes and object positions (arbitrary units) on screen. 10 ms : 1 10 ms : 2 10 ms : 3 10 ms : 4 20 ms : _6_ 10 ms : 7 10 ms : 8 (suppose we're using a V-synced 100 Hz monitor. Yes, this is a much more constrained example than what even _I_ would like to use, but I had to use this one to keep the numbers simple) and then suppose a different one 10 ms : 1 10 ms : 2 10 ms : 3 10 ms : 5 10 ms : _5_ 10 ms : 6 10 ms : 7 the frametimes for the second card are objectively better yet i would say the second one would appear stuttery more than the first.

[@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418]

Mid range graphics cards are now £1500? I have to admit, if this is the new norm, then my PC gaming days are finally over!

[@chasebroyles6585]

Two of my friends bought 3080 10gb near launch for over $1100. The 4080 isn't a good deal, but hell I'd rather spend $1200 on a 4080 now than $1100 on 3080 back then.

[@tomr3319]

True!

[@ericimi]

Thanks for ultrawide testing !!

[@livedreamsg]

Good job on the day 1 review!!!

[@nickllama5296]

Thanks for doing these, Daniel! They are informative! Really appreciated.

[@TheArachnoBot]

Damn, you sound like a sports caster. A very information packed video, great job!

[@billjones261]

The 4080 or 4090 for that matter only makes sense if your gaming on 4k monitors or doing video processing. Personalty I think the asking price for these cards is ridiculous. The 4080 goes for $1800+ here in Canada and the 4090 goes for $2300+ add 12% tax to these cards and it become an over bloated money grab. 👎

[@chada8166]

You great human being. Please continue including Ultrawide comparisons.

[@Finalterra1396]

I was honestly really excited for this card before the announcement, I didn't blink twice at the 4090 price as that was expected, but It was just so disappointing to see the direction they've taken with this launch. Even at an msrp of 900 dollars that would have just compared so much better in price to performance to last gen. its amazing how cool and power efficient it is compared to the 3080 for the performance increase, but when you look at that price tag, all the excitement is replaced with disapointment.

[@obeliskt1024]

as Steve from GN would say, "Stagnation"

[@AnimeWill]

Why is this video 41 minutes? The price to performance is not that way off from MSRP. $100 difference is like 9% more and I don't think people who are in that price range are crying over that. That's pretty close. And some games it does seem to be worth it to get the game over a consistent 60FPS in 4k. The other third party cards that are going for $1300-1500 are concerning but we have to see what their performance is and how they handle OCing

[@richardtucker5938]

Hey Daniel, I think you may have found your niche and it seems to be a Digital foundry-esque style. When I first started seeing your videos, I thought you did a good job presenting but were not talking about things I didn't already know/find from my existing tech channel subs. But comparison videos such as these (hardware/feature/gfx quality etc) I think make you stand out in your own right. Great vid man

[@EpicConspiracy]

I’m upgrading my 3080 12GB to 4080 this weekend. Best Buy pulled through finally got one wooooo

[@stevendavis1135]

Can you explain about best buy pulling through? The 4080 has always been relatively easy to buy because it's really poor value. Nobody wants them

[@xiaowei1]

Very different take by looking at the unreal 5 engine, which is what we need to know for future usage. Also, you clearly had a lot more time to pump out the testing with all the raytracing, DLLS, etc.. instead of doing the review just before you need to head off to work... Well done.

[@jcob3251]

Ty for doing ultrawide tests

[@PQED]

I always hear reviewers saying "it makes no sense to buy a GPU this high-end for 1080p", seemingly not realizing that some of us are looking to keep the GPU for years to come. Now, why not buy a new GPU every gen you say? Well, first off you'd have to deal with release bugs in drivers (and other long-standing bugs), which you won't with the older GPU. Sure, you may miss a few features, but in my experience the higher-end GPU's also won't start lagging behind (stuttering, for example), as quickly which could be because the hardware is imbalanced (far more common with mid- and low-end GPU's in my experience). Not all of us have a stable enough economy to buy GPU's regularly either, and will save up to get something higher-end, but still sensibly priced for what you get (so not a 4090, for example). I'd really like to see reviewers take this into account and not just say "don't get x for x thing (resolution, for example)". Especially as VRR monitors are becoming more widely used. I could probably add more to this, but I just wanted to give some quick food for thought.

[@Fluke2SS]

Am I the only one seeing his numbers not matching what he is saying? The videos show 4080's with less FPS by almost 40% than the 3080's, unless you have the videos labeled wrong for which video cards?

[@mody1234]

Great comparisons! Your videos are very informative and helpful.

[@KingdomBusiness21]

This channel is underrated. Need to get Daniel to 200k at the very least!!!

[@mamba528]

Basically, buy this card if you're willing to be scalped by the manufacturer.

[@senciddimisin]

great great video, subbed. too much work went into this.

[@Krashulka]

I don't mind the DLSS with RT on the 4080 OC 16GB, I play on a 70" 4k TV and don't even notice the fake frames, it all looks good to me. The card is a beast really, Everything I play gets 60 smooth fps minimum, with all the graphic settings maxed out full. Cheers

[@tomr3319]

I agree, 4080 is an amazing card despite the price.

[@13zveroboy89]

Yeah overpriced trash .

[@madac219]

Why compare it with the 12gb version of the 3080 though? Most people bought the 10gb version as the mrsp value was so good at that price point.

[@xathlak]

I'm looking to run games at 1080p with all the bells and whistles at 144hz, so i appreciate you including it.

[@ErikTheEbikeExpert]

Hey I just upgraded to 4080 from 3080 I still have a ryzen 9 5900 is my cpu still good enough?

[@CyberHorrorZero]

1600 euro for a 4080 and 2500 euro for a 4090 starting prices, here in Germany....that's pretty upsetting.

[@ermocrate]

Here in Italy the 3080 costs half of the 4080 msrp, 760 to 1470 euros. Crazy for 30% more performance.

[@Dave-xv7ez]

One thing I learned decades ago is not to get too hung up on the potential for hardware to collapse in price. Sure, you want to try to be as efficient as you can be with your money but you cannot predict future prices. The mindset to have is one of building a system that will last you for a set amount of time where you then replace it in it's entirety. I then to go for the 3-4 year mark

[@devometv9369]

Daniel continue like this my friend,your channel will grow up more! You are my favorite channel on these days..Good job.Clear and net.

[@akshaygupta6724]

Hi all, I'm more into 1080p gaming, would 3080 be okay for next 3-4 years?

[@vird7648]

yes even 3080 is overkill for 1080p

[@Bigbacon]

have to remember that most people who got 3080s didn't pay MSRP, they paid 1200+ dollars. doesn't make it right.