Rubicon trail. 4x4 adventure. Jeep JK vs XJ. Nitto vs Goodyear off road.

[@sevensinsvelocityshop7563]

Both are awesome machines but this is an apples to oranges comparison with nearly if not more than a decade of automotive technology differences between the two. I think given the situation and what it was up against the XJ did extremely well and probably had a ton of fun doing this trail...which is what this sport is all about

[@notamechanic1628]

I’d bet that Xj has an np231. Low range isn’t quite as low as the jks 4:1 causing more tire spin. Also curious on the gear ratios between the two. Nittos are for sure helping the hook up!

[@DJ556AR]

Sorry that we did not join you this year. Would love to have been part of the tire comparison running my Red Label Krawlers.Great video !!!

[@Snowcrash777]

The XJ has less lift, smaller tires, and needs to drop tire pressure like the JK obviously has.

[@alpa74subi]

JK and XJ has same tire size, same tire pressure and it has front and rear lockers.

[@Snowcrash777]

FL RUBI Lol well Damn! I don't know my tires then. Lol

[@chatlofton]

Daniel Anthony bad ass XJ man

[@berbandis]

@@alpa74subi I don't do a lot of four wheeling but wouldn't you want lower pressure in the xj tires to get the same effect as the jk given that the xj is about 600 lbs lighter?

[@ohsee1346]

The Xj also has leafs in the rear and a shorter wheelbase, not to mention 2.73/1 tcase vs the rubicon 4/1, and full coilovers with air bumps

[@davidbuelow8598]

Yeah, I’m not sure it’s just about ‘tire vs. tire’. I’m seeing other issues like articulation, differential performance and usage (locked vs. unlocked), vehicle weight and center of gravity, a lot of different factors. Although, when I had my ‘98 Cherokee, I had a terrible experience with the stock Goodyear Wranglers, and after switching to the BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A’s I never had any troubles at all.

[@alpa74subi]

Yes indeed. Many factors in play.

[@jameshill7694]

And tire load rating. "Lets slap some load range E on this bad boy!" Herp Derp. I ran Maxxis A/T Bravos load C and crawled over everything in my JKu.

[@sevensinsvelocityshop7563]

Biggest 2 issues I see here is line selection and the tires on that XJ aired down or not have almost no sidewalk flex which would have helped tremendously

[@irishcherokee8884]

Plus the hitchkiss springs.

[@tbenzo300]

the nittos obviously grab better but isn't there a weight distribution issue also between the two? xj may be more rear heavy

[@JsGarage]

Fun stuff! Nice video. Sucks that JK scratched that door up pretty good. Oh well at least you are going to great places. I still want to visit the Rubicon. Its on the opposite side of the country for me though. :(

[@alpa74subi]

Well, we live in Florida so for us it's on the opposite side too. Rubicon is my favorite trail and we did it 5x already!!!!! LOVE IT THERE.

[@JsGarage]

Awesome! Yea I am down to go whenever I have to get my friends with smaller budgets on board.

[@williamhall6643]

I’d love to talk to guy with xj get some info and input on his setup

[@DJ556AR]

PS I am not sure that polishing compound will be enough for your passenger door this time! :)

[@BP-uj9uq]

Man that Jk walked right up that stuff

[@Ferda1964]

great show but of course the same vehicles would be much better tire assessment

[@anthonyzhang4918]

extra foot of wheelbase and weight seems to help the JK for sure!

[@DokOps1]

I bet if the tires were switched, the results would be the same. Not really a fair comparison since the JK has bigger tires, but a very enjoyable video none the less.

[@alpa74subi]

Both Jeeps running 37" tires

[@DokOps1]

Oh wow, I stand corrected, they must be worn down as they look the same size as my 35s! His shorter wheelbase didn't help him in this video either.

[@Snowcrash777]

Wow that's hard to see the difference in tire size or lift. I know the XJ suspension sounds like crap and regardless of tire size the XJ needs to drop pressure. The tires don't give or grip with that much pressure. If they were dropped they needed even less. The XJ tires don't show the sidewall like the JK so that's obvious. I've seen better traction from lesser tires with around 10 lbs of tire pressure. As a matter of fact, I lived in Nevada County near the Rubicon Trail and have seen full-time rock crawlers and tire pressure is key.

[@sirtubemaster]

Ever since i put the Nitto trail grapplers on i don't have to use 4X4 anymore! :)

[@alpa74subi]

:)

[@ANGLINARMY]

The xj has a loose nut behind the wheel. A new driver would fix it. He's doing the same stuff that's not working multiple times, not carrying his momentum, not even getting momentum at times when he needs it, poor line choices for his vehicle... basically his data processor is lacking. It's hard to watch at times.

[@gregoryhowell]

This should be called squeaky trails

[@victorevan7893]

The red jeep got to much air in tires

[@alpa74subi]

Both jeeps running 12psi.

[@victorevan7893]

FL RUBI must be stiffer tire

[@jacobbiddle1884]

Awesome video! Is there a build thread for the Cherokee? Would love to get more info about it.

[@alpa74subi]

no build thread and unfortunately no more Cherokee, it was part out and scrapped

[@jimlayhey1965]

where did you get that bar at the bottom of spare tire

[@zackbean6797]

What kind of rear bumper is the xj running. And what axles are under the xj as well

[@johnmonroe5108]

Nice video

[@moultonmotox]

Nittos for sure. What tire pressure are you running. I'm not seeing much sidewall flex in either set.

[@alpa74subi]

12 psi

[@squigglysquishers7521]

What year is the xj and is it auto or manual

[@91Bronco]

What exhaust are you running on your JK ?

[@stitch1007]

Cool video! Do you need to run spacers with the Hutchinson wheels? If so, how much?

[@alpa74subi]

yes. 1.5"

[@stitch1007]

FL RUBI Thanks. I've been looking at getting a set.

[@gustafpeyron]

What size nittos on the anvil jk? Still 37s? They look bigger. And nittos are my fave!

[@alpa74subi]

yes 37s. It's a perfect size for us.

[@gustafpeyron]

Mind if I ask what axle upgrades you've done? You using OX lockers instead of stock lockers too?

[@alpa74subi]

Front is a Dynatrac ProRock 44 with RCV Ultimate CV Axles and OX air locker. Rear is OEM dana 44 housing with RCV 300M Axle Shafts and of course air OX locker.

[@jorgelrod]

35 splines? or standard 30 Front/30 Rear?

[@seananon4893]

I know this is an old video, but does the owner of that XJ have a KZbin channel? I’m looking at building a 91 XJ overland trail rig, and need someone to bounce ideas off of.

[@alpa74subi]

No he does not.

[@ohsee1346]

Fam just check out some xj forums

[@danhambrick6331]

What tire carrier does the xj have?I would love to have one.Thanks....

[@alpa74subi]

Home made.

[@artweiser]

Like video no music or talking just good wheeling. Jk tires worked better. Not impressed with Goodyear. I run bfg mud tires my opinion best tires made

[@alpa74subi]

I know that BFG are very good also.

[@Little.R]

Imagine having beadlocks and not airing down to 15psi.

[@spicy568]

What exhaust are you running in the jk?

[@alpa74subi]

Magnaflow

[@Monica-ij9vp]

The jeep jk is manual or automatic transmission? How many inches was elevated?

[@alpa74subi]

auto and 4"

[@chrissilva661]

Rubicon is 8000 feet so that’s 96k inches of elevation 😂

[@Snowcrash777]

DId the XJ even have diff lockers?

[@alpa74subi]

yes front and rear.

[@Snowcrash777]

Wow! Those are my next set of tires then! Thanks Bro for the cool video! Even though watching an XJ do so poorly was painful lol

[@jassem3333]

Like a doog walking with a lion 🤣🤣

[@erich2186]

7:38 That will buff out..

[@nicot2436]

💪🏻

[@vincentorona163]

Unfair, different car

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Just buy a RZR XP Turbo S. It will crawl better than any Rubicon

[@alpa74subi]

We spent 3months offroad every year in the jeep. Driving from Florida out west, how we gonna do it in RZR????

[@viivcreations9161]

yeah id go for the xj....you can buy like 10 of them for the price of 1 shitty unlimited

[@astyisda7949]

You lose than the old XJ.

[@alpa74subi]

haha what

[@Achisachis73]

This is not about the tires, the drivers made all the difference. High centered?! SMH clearly a newbiee

[@ryankeyes7192]

That is a horrible tire comparison. I just wasted 5 mins of my life

[@alpa74subi]

you are welcome, I should make it longer!