Ruby Franke and Lori Daybell: Why Are They So Similar?

[@cariann2220]

Also AUB (apostolic united brethren) mormon polygamist cult to add to the list of mormon cults.

[@dizkidliz]

That’s the one that’s on Sister Wives. Third wife Christine’s family members were founders.

[@Iruparazzo]

for real I've been saying this, the similarities. It's not just the mormonism, it's this way they equate their parental authority with the authority of god. Like in one video Franke is practically screaming at her kids to "REPENT!" and it's like... repent to whom? To you? She thinks she's god, and also runs her family like a cult. Absolutely self-anointed behavior

[@brokebishboutique79]

Im so happy that brave lil boy was able to escape and get help. This situation could have easily turned worse with children being found in a shallow grave on Jodis property.

[@SLConnley]

You are pretty spot on, I was born and raised Mormon and I see it as predictable what happened to these kids.

[@MariaHernandez-lw5th]

I'm happy to see that someone has seen the similarities. Thank GOD someone got her kid help.

[@ferociousgumby]

Had that heroic little boy not broken away, we would have seen another tragedy, I am sure of it.

[@phoebestone1694]

Thank God he ALLOWS HUS FOLLOWERS TO ABUSE! Bc if he gets credit for saving them shouldn’t he get praise for allowing it to happen 😢😅

[@damnitalexis]

Well done. I hope more people get to see this.

[@Mellispaghetti]

This is amazing!! You're gonna get so popular so fast!

[@mimma6203]

Good video and shows that this is bigger problem than one case

[@psychicrenegade]

Why don't more people know this?!? Russell was only DAYS AWAY FROM DEATH when he escaped that house!!! His starvation was SO BAD, that without immediate medical treatment, the doctors said he would have DIED in just a few days!!!

[@amberka2884]

I have been following the Vallow-Daybell case since the beginning, and I definitely noticed the similarities with that and Ruby/Jodi. I think we need to start evaluating how these women get to the point where they are able to abuse or even kill their children. In the 8 Passengers situation, the neighbors and people online were pushing for YEARS for them to be investigating. With Lori, Charles told the police what was going on and they didn’t investigate this death just a short while later?

[@msmollybk]

Yeah, the Arizona police dropped the ball. That's another aspect of the case I find compelling -- I think authorities are slow to investigate when the perpetrators are attractive, seemingly put-together moms.

[@amberka2884]

@@msmollybk That's definitely a good point! I watched the video where Lori and Tylee are talking with the police after Charles told the police she was dangerous, and they are all laughing and almost flirting with Lori the whole time she is there. We always say that bad guys don't always look like bad guys, maybe we should actually start listening to that

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

Don't underestimate that many of the people in law enforcement, CPS, courts, etc., in certain parts of the country are disproportional Mormon and don't want anything to reflect badly on the church. I live in a high-percentage Mormon town, and I have experienced Mormons covering for other Mormons.@@msmollybk

[@microcult]

That duct tape video exclusively features the abused children that put Ruby in jail

[@rst34]

Very informative especially as someone who doesn’t know anything about Christianity or Mormons I found this to be very interesting and thought provoking and will definitely look into it more. Thanks for the video

[@msmollybk]

It is quite the rabbit hole. Thanks for watching.

[@PC-dc1kv]

@rst34. Mormons are not Christians. They believe that God was once human and that Jesus and Satan are brothers. These are not Christian beliefs.

[@nadzach]

Springville is Ruby's hometown and was the hometown of Chad and Tammy Daybell before Chad decided Rexberg/Sexberg was his safe place where he would reign over the White Camps. (Certain people describe Rexberg as a place of sanctified swingers and a convention location where cheaters went to hookup.) Springville is nearly 95% Mormon which might make it easier to sweep some dirt under the rug. I used to think Texas had a lot of blonds, then I saw Utah and a video of Lori bleaching the hair of her toddler.

[@SarahSmile25]

I love your demeanor and how you try to always keep a straight face (even when you are cracking your husband up)

[@msmollybk]

TRYING to be PROFESSIONAL!! thank you for watching

[@WolfRoss]

This very accurate. Also what I was surprised by is that marriage partners don't know each other very long before they get married. My background is midwestern with grandparents of 3 different religions but in Indiana where I'm 5th generation we are expected to know and date our potential spouse for a full year before we would get married. We have a very low divorce rate in my extended family.

[@LelynnsSquirrels]

i was with my Hubby for 2 years before we had a kid, & 2 years later we FINALLY got married.. (married 4 years AFTER coming to the conclusion that our lil family actually worked, as a unit) 💁🏼‍♀ now, here we are, 2 decades later, our Daughter just turned 21, & WE'RE ALL STILL TOGETHER.. (yet literally every1else in my family has gotta divorce or 2, hidden under their belt)

[@DisHammerhand]

As a Christian (don't know if I would be considered a fundamentalist. I'm a 'Bible only' type) family and the raising of children is highly valued. Training them to be faithful and decent human beings is important so discipline in needful. Abuse is not. You don't hurt your kids. The passage about 'provoke not your children to wrath' is often overlooked. It is a warped faith that abuses. Also parenthood is not for everyone and some people just shouldn't be parents. Btw, your baby is adorable.

[@Raebaeheyy]

Having been through the foster care system as a child- I’m sure that Ruby franke will be required to have a psych evaluation by the courts to have any chance of getting her kids back

[@awesomesmasher999ftw4]

She better not get her kids back. I think they would have ended up dead if the child had not gotten away.

[@elizabetta2453]

She will never get her kids back, she is going to jail at least for 15 yrs...she deserves 30

[@astaraoneill9166]

@@elizabetta2453 , 90

[@jodibraun6383]

She & Jodi are facing up to 15 years per count. That's up to 90 years each. She's not getting her kids back anytime soon.

[@that1pretty.potprincess779]

i’ve been saying this for years and everyone said i was reaching

[@msmollybk]

You are ahead of the curve! I didn't see it until the arrest.

[@jakedupree7268]

Not reaching at all both are sick twisted moms. One saying the world going to end. The other devil coming after me

[@YumiFaeldo]

The singing part is pure ❤❤❤

[@San_Teel]

You're like a breath of fresh air 😊 subscribe button pressed and staying pressed 😊

[@atreehuggingpunk]

whilst mormonism is worse in its cult like mentally and divine roles- id say baptists are very much like this. like i grew up in a fundie baptist church and ive heard the exact same rhetoric with just as much vehemence. luckily my family wasnt as- well, fucking crazy- but it still saturated my thinking for a long time. the amount of abuse that goes on is staggering. all my friends were so. 'well behaved'. i was eventually dropped as a friend because i questioned things and wasn't afraid to test authority (thank u abuela and mother ilysm). one of my ex friends cried when i sat on the 'boy side' in teen sunday school. its crazy

[@CbBundles]

Two awesome books to read to get a good feel of the Mormon beliefs-Under the banner of heaven ( the book, not the show, the show is good, but doesn't explain in detail) and When the Moon turns to blood ( which explains why Lori Daybell believed what she believed) both of these opened my eyes to what this church is all about and I do hope more of these Mormons open their eyes to what their church and start to question it.

[@msmollybk]

I am putting those on my reading list. I think I want to do something next about Chad and Jodi and their published work.

[@HopeLaFleur1975]

​@@msmollybkyou mean the oldest child! Good job cant wait to see that!

[@SLConnley]

Ewe or she could read the miracle of forgiveness and be horrified.

[@lovechronograph]

ooo i like ur vibes. subscribed

[@madelinemahajan2808]

Literal end times huh? What bitter irony that it is THEY who are the cause...NOT the solution or the saviors but the bringers of the twisted and the evil and the salacious end.

[@TheVelvetKitten]

Finally! ... someone is speaking about the Mormon Church itself being highly culpible here. You know that Mormon all believe that they live in the time Christ is returning and that they will be called on in the Apocalypse. The massive pantries and prepping is a huge thing. The emphasis I saw was not just have a Family, it was women should have as many children as possible, even if the Doctors tell them it is no longer safe.

[@thegatesofdawn...1386]

Mothers that hate their children.

[@Justlikeholymary]

ohhhhh the duct tape bit from ruby in the beginning... foreshadowing

[@nothingworksworks3511]

If that child didn't escape....:(

[@languageofhorses5324]

Hi new friend! I subscribed to your channel 👍

[@HopeLaFleur1975]

New subscriber ❤🍁🇨🇦

[@msmollybk]

Bienvenue, Canada!!

[@amykru]

Jodi is Chad Daybell. Jodi was trying to build an MLM therapy pyramid. Most MLMs are rather cultish. Thank you for giving the attention to Jodi which she so richly deserves. She is a monster.

[@msmollybk]

Just published my jodi and Chad video!

[@GariWatkins]

Omg Ruby recording herself with that duct tape… 😮 Jodi and Ruby are definitely lovers. It’s achingly obvious

[@HopeLaFleur1975]

I suspect that Ruby was a lesbian😮

[@crystaldragonwoman]

Bravo for saying and putting into context what many are wondering about … esp the strong harsh discipline of not only Mormons but fundamentalist religions in general ….. a lot of folks come out of of harsh childhood with a lack f a capacity for empathy, think Musk, who clearly states Empathy is not an assess, and DTrump, whose behavior falls into a sadistic narcissism, he enjoys his bullying… so it is not just religious harshness.

[@ARolls-dd2zd]

Neither of them are psychopaths. Unless you are familiar with the Hare Psychopathy tool, you might want to watch defamation of wealthy people.

[@crystaldragonwoman]

@@ARolls-dd2zd I am not aware of the Hare tool .. I will explore it later … and I was a psychiatric nurse for 20 years, working in the field of abuse …so I have become well acquainted with the effects of child harshness and psychopaths .. true, I jumped the gun on Musk .. going with his famous rages, clear statement… that empathy is not an asset … and his biographer stating, Musk lacks empathy… while praising his other superpowers … Trump I am clear is a sadistic narcissist… enjoying his bulling etc etc l… I am fine not to call him a psychopath.. I will correct my post … I was using shorthand…

[@edamameedamame1202]

Excellent video and thank you for doing this vide, very well done. You have a critical mind that is also shown some spunkiness in the analysis, impressive and I am forward this video to all my friends who are following this case. Please consider doing a content on the sisters and Kevin, your views and opinions would be very interesting. SUBSCRIBED!

[@msmollybk]

Thank you very much! I will be making videos on the rest of this strange bunch, stay tuned.

[@edamameedamame1202]

Criminal bunch

[@kittyblue8310]

I am ex LDS and I can tell you that your reputation and your family’s reputation is everything in the church !!!

[@pepethefrog8759]

Yes! There is also so much pressure to have a family. Mormon families that appear to be prim and proper by the book make me worry about what happens behind closed doors.

[@carrielawooto9933]

Not for everyone. Utah member and I didn't grow up that way

[@foxibot]

There is huge pressure for Mormons to have kids. And have huge families. That’s integral to their faith and then they have spirit kids on Kolab their Mormon planet. They also have many spirit wives too. Basically polygamy in heaven. I had friends that popped out 6 babies that couldn’t afford kids, and I would say hey don’t have any more and the answer I would get is our church encourages big families. I was like but if you can’t afford all these kids, maybe you should stop having them. I wasn’t judging them I was worried sick about the kids. And many times I had to step in and help them by buying groceries and taking care of the kids. One little girl wanted to move in with me and told my friends that they had too many kids and that I didn’t have any so I could take care of her. That broke my heart hearing her say that. She stayed with me and loved the attention I gave her. I just did normal stuff like read her a story at bedtime and make sure I was there to help her wash her little hair, and stuff like that, she was only 3 and she would get thrown in the tub with the others to fend for herself, all by herself, and I was pretty horrified by that because clearly she wasn’t able to take care of herself. I adored her. And the other kids too.

[@andrewbullington4562]

Hey guys, we should all start playing volleyball late at night!

[@msmollybk]

Nice try

[@Acinnn]

The type of same sex relationship Jodi describes sounds lot like homoromantic but maybe asexual type of relationship. she also in some other video said person is capable to go whole life without sex..... well....she seems to be sadistic zealot with god complex... so that negates any sort of sympathy one would have with her.

[@foxibot]

Yeah I imagine she is a self hating gay in the closet because of her religion, who makes everyone else miserable because of it and is hyper religious, to keep it repressed. She may just have an emotional type situation where she makes the other women dependent on her which makes her feel important and needed. And then there’s all those lingering touches she does with Ruby and pulling her out of the water on that boat.

[@mosttemp]

i hope ruby is taken to jail for atleast 40 years . child abuse is not ok

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

There is no such thing as going to jail for 40 years. Jail is county.

[@a.jlondon9039]

Good work. I subbed. I think Jodi hates Ruby's husband and most men in general. She wanted Ruby all to herself.

[@tamarleahh.2150]

I don't think that those moms meant for it to get it so far. But they kept on trying to maintain their unquestioned authority and when they saw that it didn't work quickly they kept escalating. Eventually it became personal to them whenever their kids misbehaved.

[@Time_Is_Left]

Did either of Joby ever talk about Lori? Did any of the mormon influencers?

[@mimimosa259]

I had no idea the Daybell case involved mormonism.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

Fun fact, Rexburg, Idaho (the city where the Daybell murders happened) is over 90% Mormon. It's the most Mormon city in the US. Even the Judge and half the lawyers in the trial were either Mormon or Ex-Mormon.

[@gotlandia1588]

They both or one of them going to turn all of this on KF, he’s by no means innocent.

[@monus782]

Although I never was Mormon I’ve found many similarities with former members so I’ve been a longtime listener to Mormon Stories, I’ve heard of the polygamist offshoots but I forgot there were other groups which have a more apocalyptic viewpoint (Tara Westover, the author of Educated, came from a survivalist family but was mainstream LDS) and the stories of these two are crazier than I thought.

[@a-jheney102]

If one looks back throughout both the written or verbal , true or mythical stories of humanity there is the strain that. shows the dangers of excess.ive indulgence. .In this case a believe system based on false ideas leading to those who indulge leaving the realms of reality .

[@thegatesofdawn...1386]

Clearly they were in an inappropriate relationship. Kicked Kevin out. Kevin must have been in a state of shock & maybe horror.

[@postedbynorico]

I feel like these type of moms were passing on the abuse they themselves received.

[@foxibot]

Good moment where creator and her baby beg you to reconsider believing you will usher in the 2nd coming, lol.

[@annaballestero1327]

You are right, I do find this infuriating and sad that there is such a hyper focus on the fact that both Ruby Franke and Lori Daybill are Mormons. What does it matter? Many people of other religions also make poor or extremely bad life decisions so why the continuous pointing out that they are Mormons. I do not condone or defend either of these women but to say that Mormonism is the cause of their actions seems to me like it’s just an excuse to continue to bash the Mormon church. It may surprise you to know that 99% of Mormons are just regular people, trying to make a living and raise their families. Focusing on the one percent of people who have clearly done bad things doesn’t seem quite fair. Just remember there are good and bad people in all races, religions etc., so stop making generalizations and statements based on people who are disgruntled and disillusioned with Mormon religion (it’s not a cult by the way no matter what people may say.) Furthermore, you can thank the Mormon church for their huge humanitarian donations to world wide needs such as the fires in Maui, the war in Ukraine just to name a few. Ruby Franke and Lori Daybill just both happened to be Mormon, but they made their bad decisions all on their own, it’s called “free will” last time I checked we all have it to use for good or evil.

[@catherinefinken2294]

Well said and thank you.

[@c471]

Except Elder Bednar said that Mormons give up free will when they "choose" to get baptized...

[@LelynnsSquirrels]

my monster is winning, & those kid's monster probably will too.. life isn't fair.. (the world doesn't care about ppl like me, cuz i let my past get the better of me)

[@elizabetta2453]

Who was the last lady in your video, she is an ex- mormom would like to hear more about how the cjurch operates

[@phoebestone1694]

So many of these people are in government! Supreme Court Barrett comes to mind first 😢

[@MeganMikkelsen6037]

I read the title as why do they look so similar and thought this was going to some kind of conspiracy video.

[@HopeLaFleur1975]

Frankenstein parents...just beyond. While the whole family except Beau..do not have KZbin. I think the whole family is comprised. Materialism...all sisters have new built homes! While the parents are 'missionaries'.....in Serbia. So many questions!

[@msmollybk]

I think we should do a video on them in the near-ish future

[@Red-jt6uu]

Honestly, I think the fact that Mormons teach that they will become gods and goddesses after death for following Mormon teachings is as much to blame as the emphasis on having children. I can see how this doctrine would appeal to extremely narcissistic individuals such as Ruby and Lori and some like Lori might take the extra mile and believe that they are essentially gods right now during their lifetime. And, if you genuinely believe that you are some sort of god, you will likely think that you can play by your own rules because conventional morality is for those mortal plebs, not exalted beings such as yourself. The end game of mainstream Christianity is to become a saint, but Christians do not view saints as anything near a god. Even miracles attributed to saints are not considered the saint’s doing via their own power, but their intercession before God on behalf of someone else and it is ultimately God that calls the shots. This is radically different from Mormom cosmology and it explains why Mormons have more of a cult problem than Christianity or other mainstream religions. A saint in practically ANY other religion is still ultimately just a human being and there is nothing a human can do to become anything more than a human being.

[@codex_lui]

Mormonism.

[@michaelbrooks742]

Calling Ruby "hot" is a bit of a stretch

[@sylviahendrick]

Lori Vallow (spelling?) Daybell and her new husband Chad Daybell Ruby Frankie Jody Aries or Jodi Arias Josh Powell Scott Peterson maybe? A lot of mental health issues that led to horrific behavior and crimes come from Mormon LDS religion or background

[@msmollybk]

And Kouri Richins!

[@MyArgylesock]

Millions of members and you’re making a blanket judgement based on a handful? I’m sure we could find a handful of mentally unstable people in every religion and organization in society. Are all Catholic priests child molesters?

[@outlandishmccandlish3873]

You mean both these women are bottle blondes.

[@natalianakoriakova8084]

They both look alike

[@knowpassword]

This kinda reminds me of Tom cruise and that Scientology leader guy.. 🤷‍♂️

[@m0thdm]

Tellem Timber!

[@kellyegan9824]

They both sound insane

[@At0micAllison]

More karaoke Thursdays!!

[@msmollybk]

Andrew was SUPPOSED to do it because he can actually sing. Alas, his cooperation is not always perfect!!

[@Handle1969]

But religion calls us to do “good” but hits us with “out of this world” stuff that can’t be proven. You gotta have your head in the air yet keep your feet on the ground. Look, I believe there is a God. I pray. There are some things you gotta put in God’s hands or you’ll go nuts. Confession: I got my own brand of Christianity. Especially with nutso religions I see around the world.

[@lruss5050]

Both Mormon and delusional!❤

[@raypeters4525]

MORMANS

[@lindabartholomew6435]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[@bobbicatt]

Of course this is all Mormon based they had a huge budget to give to anyone doing a family channel .

[@lindabartholomew6435]

They don't pay ANYONE to do a blog.

[@msfoxylove20]

I’m sorry Mrs. Day Bale is wicked as hell. She killed her kids. She has no son Bown in her body whatsoever now we’re going to talk about Mrs. Ruby, Frank this is Ruby. Frank is disgusting. She abused her kids for clout. Are you kidding me?

[@nikkicicero7730]

You can’t compare it one murdered her children and the other one you strict punishment probably considered CA but she’s not a murderer as of yet do you have to be a Dingdong to compare it? I’m not saying what she did was right but she’s not a murderer so get that straight. 0:47

[@PC-dc1kv]

@nikkicucero7730. In her diary, Ruby stated her plan to take her 2 young children out to the Arizona desert and leave them there! She didn’t get the chance to kill them because the police showed up before she could carry out her plan. That’s the ONLY reason she’s not a convicted murderer.

[@dekishajones282]

Let me stop you right there. I’m so sick and tired of the Eurocentric standard of beauty who said Lori and Ruby were attractive ? it takes very little to be attractive in white society, just have blonde hair, and be shaped like a 12 year old boy ! I find both of them very unattractive and I’m not talking about their deeds. I’m talking about them physically I get so sick of this narrative of blonde hair and white women being thin are just automatically attractive. Quit making those blanket statement. White beauty is not the litmus test or the standard.

[@nikkicicero7730]

Decides they’re in Utah. They belong to the Mormon church and you may believe they’re in prison, but I can guarantee and I’m probably right they’re not spending a day in prison disserving they’re Mormon church and the Mormons are protecting them. They are rich rich entity that goes beyond prison they can do and I have the power to do whatever they please, and we will never know about it.

[@carrielawooto9933]

Why do you think they aren't in prison. What is the benefit for the church?

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

They're 1000% going to prison. I'm an Ex-Mormon living in Utah btw, and what you're saying is beyond absurd. I highly doubt the church would protect them even if they could, and I wouldn't be shocked if they get excommunicated pretty soon.