Ruby Franke's daughter speaks out about mom's arrest and her abusive childhood

[@19NELLiE04]

Shari calling her ruby instead of mom says a lot.

[@aleciacarr]

Yes

[@prima808]

I call my mother by her first name a lot. It doesn't actually "say" that much. I use her first name when I'm referencing her to another person so they know exactly who I'm talking about since more ppl know her by her name than as "my mother", especially in a business or public type of setting. It's just more formal. I don't call her by names when im addressing her directly.

[@bigphatemergy]

i do the same with my mom. it started in highschool. it makes me almost uncomfortable to acknowledge her as mom or mother to other people lol

[@CherylAshley-th8sb]

RIGHT !!

[@daniellesmith6853]

In the context of this situation, calling your Mom by her first name means sowmthing

[@cherylthompson2731]

Bless the man that called 911.

[@meghansullivan6812]

Ikr! :(

[@surgedeb]

And bless the ONE kid who had sense enough to ask for help.

[@Blakenew127]

He literally saved lives

[@sarahhomer2873]

Bless the boy who was brave enough to risk his life to save him and his sister ❤

[@hippychick420]

​@surgedeb Russell. Hope he's doing well

[@Lexie-Nel]

The 911 caller's voice breaks down while describing the boy's condition reveals a lot about the torment Ruby and Jodi were willing to perpetrate.

[@morganmiller8010]

That clip gets me every time. It's haunting.

[@saltandpepper986]

It’s so sad. The entire call/police arrival video is here on KZbin. That man and his wife were exactly what that boy needed in that moment.

[@drugreen123]

Her father is also a monster. He was a grown adult that did not protect his children and actively participated in their abuse.

[@goatgirl5968]

And now is parading himself in front of the Utah legislature trying to blame DCFS and pretending to be a victim. He's gross.

[@lolipopPrincess]

Exactly he chose to stay with this woman and allow her to abuse the kids

[@apriladams6098]

I agree that his silence makes him complicit

[@krystal1722]

This. And anyone who watched her, lauded her, and enabled her also have blood on their hands.

[@missJolie85]

@@apriladams6098 Not only that, he was just as much involved in many the controversial clips they showed on their channel.

[@928studiosinc06]

"Probably tell her I'm happy without you." That cuts very very deep.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I KNOW that would hurt that good for nothing mom. 🙃

[@jennilynmae]

You go girl!!

[@SCORPIUSANCTUM]

Truth will set us Free!

[@melanytodd2929]

❣️

[@Whitters40]

Better than any prison sentence ever will.

[@delpicsla65]

Their father failed the children as well. He’s suppos d to be the adult and protect his kids but he sat back for years and let the mom abuse them. He should’ve seen something was wrong, and got his kids out of that abusive environment.

[@drewfromyay882]

He's a complete pushover. In the interrogation he asks about his wife before he says anything about the kids.

[@studybuddy.]

He saw he did nothing he probably participated

[@MikeTheD]

I watched his interview w cops and he’s such a pathetic man

[@Starsstripesandspectacle]

You’d be surprised how cruel moms can be. My dad said when I was a baby, my mom threatened him with never seeing me again, so he went cruising on twisty dirt roads at 120mph

[@Maddddieeeeeb]

That’s what’s so sad about it is we have no idea what was exactly was happening in those moments, now I don’t want to say Kevin was involved in any way but I don’t think I can believe that. He should’ve tried harder for his kids

[@SydneyJ-m6m]

Since when is eating dinner a “privilege” a nintendo is a privilege, a tv is a privilege, a phone is a privilege…its a BASIC PARENTAL REQUIREMENT TO FEED YOUR CHILDREN 🤬

[@stephaniesmith1086]

A bed was a privilege to Ruby, she took away her child's bed and made him sleep on a beanbag chair

[@yvonnekneeshaw2784]

Agree … basic needs must be met

[@HBritt-fh6wf]

Children have certain inalienable rights. Dinner being one of them.

[@StacysSoCalledLife]

@@SydneyJ-m6m she wanted them out of her house once they turned 18! No ifs ands or butts about it! I truly feel like she never wanted kids but “had to” have them as s Mormon. I also don’t believe any of her statement she made when she plead guilty was honest.

[@lindsayb1329]

This is an old fashioned thing from the older generations that should have never been repeated. This is most likely something Ruby experienced in her home growing up! But they are not going to say this.

[@angelapatino9582]

Family vlogging should be outlawed. Its all abusive. Making your kids live their entire lives online is disgusting

[@Nobodysbby]

& it's free content for predators. Even when you tell a mother or father this they ignore it.

[@donnablack8602]

Absolutely 💯

[@donnablack8602]

Outlandish 😢

[@incoherent-marbles]

​@@Nobodysbbya lot of them know it but they just decide that the money they're making matters more, and they market towards those groups without saying they're doing so. It's absolutely sick.

[@ZoraSingsohh]

It’s sickening. Post your OWN self. Don’t exploit kids. They can’t speak up for themselves.

[@diamorefamily]

Out of an unthinkable situation came this beautiful, emotionally intelligent & strong young woman. Good for her 👏🏽 I’m going to have to give this book a read. So proud!

[@exeter66]

She really seems to have escaped her parents' house of horrors beautifully, both physically and mentally.

[@AA-rn3hl]

Another family vlogger lmao, the absolute irony. When will you people learn?

[@godsamazinggrace5331]

​@@AA-rn3hl When they or their kiddos get in trouble/danger?? Or When they get arrested?? Those parents are lovers of money!!

[@Nancy-sf2pl]

“There is no such thing as a moral or ethical family vlogger” 👏👏👏

[@karaleem8337]

I wish Ruby’s sister Bonnie would understand this.

[@annwe6]

The same can be said for the consumers who watch family vlogs. It’s unethical and potentially supports child exploitation and abuse. By tuning in, viewers contribute to the demand for such content.

[@AaronNickolas7]

YES there is! You just want there to be. There a lot of family vlogger who have inspired me. I want to vlog!

[@annwe6]

@@AaronNickolas7 What about the consent of underage family members? Kids often don’t understand the long-term consequences of having their lives broadcast online-once it’s out there, it’s out there forever.

[@skyofthelivingdead]

Correct. I was just saying this last night to my family. Anyone who is willing to exploit their children’s vulnerability and privacy for money is not a good person.

[@katebrown1514]

Why didn't Kevin do anything to protect his children. Ruby had been abusive for years before Jodi.

[@schewitt1977]

Exactly I don't believe for a minute he's innocent

[@jahliafinney707]

Even the before Jody years were Jody tho. For exampke, Jody was Chad's therapist before they made connections together

[@johnlennon6790]

Probably a weak willed man. Outnumbered by these 2 women who appear to have all the correct answers and the handle on discipline, as the culture is dunking on the "white male patriarchy". No matter your views on such things, this has an impact on a man's analysis of the situation. It's easy to feel like you're the one who's wrong, and you're on the wrong side of history. This is how I felt in the 2000's when they were trying to give my sons ADHD meds...outnumbered by bureaucrats.

[@jkoonce4244]

because the social services are geared against men in case you really dont know. also they did nothing about the eldest daughters reports and pleas for help ... open yer eyes mt

[@A-t-r-u-s]

*Because of how controlling and manipulative you women are.*

[@aprilm.1277]

"Shari reached out to authorities about alleged abuse of her younger siblings multiple times without help." I hate how the system always seems to hurt children instead of protecting them.

[@Lilac_girl27_27]

I am surprised that the father is now saying that he is proud of her. At first, he wanted to press charges against her for taking items from the house, such as laptops, phones, cameras, and so on. He wanted to PRESS CHARGE on his own daughter after discovering what the two younger children were experiencing.

[@jahliafinney707]

He didn't believe it at the time. He thought Sheri was lying

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Kevin is also not innocent

[@murderofcrows7738]

Those that watched the vlogs know that Kevin has never been innocent. He was the head of the house and Ruby was always trying to please him. It was never him trying to please her when Shari was young. He was on board with everything.

[@ladyhouseoflove]

I remember seeing one video where he was being awful to his son at the kitchen table just for having his phone out. He mocked him by reading aloud the text messages to everyone. Yeah, for a lot of households that run like this, the men are the head honcho. Ruby Franke was probably the main disciplinarian for the kids because they believe the mom is the main one to handle the kids. But Kevin Franke was an enabler that could have put a stop to this at anytime. And he participated in hurting his kids at least mentally and emotionally before.

[@bcpr9812]

He just pivoted his views to align with whichever way the wind was blowing. It's favourable to him, and just like any narcissist, when it stops benefitting him, he'll pivot yet again.

[@DogsDogsAndMoreDogs]

He's proud of the daughter he tried to have arrested for gathering evidence against her parents? That alone is abusive.

[@whims6278]

This. He was ready to try to have her arrested as a means of control and as soon as he saw that the public saw that and viewed him as the villain he is and changed his tune real quick. Narcissist like his wife.

[@cupcakebetty-w2u]

Yeah hes a narc. That was his passive aggressive jab at her. Because he lacks a foundation of empathy, he's only playing the part. Thats why his statement is so out of touch even though he thinks it sounds like the right thing to say.

[@wordswordswords8203]

I didn't know that but as soon as I heard her say the father was proud of the daughter I felt sick. No way that man didn't know how f'd up his wife was and he left the kids with her.

[@hippychick420]

He played a part in taking Chads bed for 6 months. He played a part in sending Chad to that Anastasi place. He enabled his wife every single time instead of standing up for his children. Then you add the fact that he tried to have her ARRESTED for going into the house after NOBODY was there for months. He's no better than Ruby. He never was.

[@KyleFartboy]

I cant believe the father got custody of those kids as he was okay with the abuse.

[@RobertoHernandez-cx4yt]

The father should be in jail too 🤬🤬😡😡

[@Stark_dan97]

Agreed

[@saipuakivikaupias]

“ for me, forgiveness would look like not letting that consume every moment of my life”. What a very intelligent and brave young lady.

[@maketheworldabetterplace2292]

I know right..that line, she is younger than me and I'm still working towards healing and peace in my life. Even tho I achieved balance and peace its hard for me to erase moments of longing for love and pain the abuse in my childhood left behind together with memories and wanting a family and acceptance... She achieved that already, at such a young age...I'm so happy for her ;)

[@rebekahtablante327]

She’s so wise already ❤️

[@annatanneberger1]

No, the reporter asked her the standard vacuous question if she had "forgiven." She had a very carefully prepared, memorised, worked out answer. Probably worked out with a lawyer or other counsellor who prepped her for the interview. I would have told the reporter that question is a violation of her company's policies on sensitivities about race, religion and gender. However, that reporter would be too stupid to understand that it is a shibboleth question for "Are you Christian or Moslem?" And if Muslim, are you a fundamentalist who lives by Shariah Law?

[@annatanneberger1]

@@maketheworldabetterplace2292 I have commented on this matter, but I would also like to reach out to you personally. The reporter asked a standard airhead question ("Have you forgiven?") and Shari had wisely prepared an answer very carefully, because whoever prepped her knew it was coming. It is not an example to follow. Obviously she is not seeking revenge. Or the matter would be in the courts. So it is a New Age, spiritual, mental well-being question. And what does "forgiveness" mean under these disciplines? (a) That you have to suppress any knowledge or memory of what happened? (b) Or that you may never talk about it ever again? (c) Or that you are allowed to remember and talk about it, but without experiencing any negative emotions when doing so? All of the above is completely opposite to what is generally understood today as good for mental health. Combat veterans and victims of childhood sexual abuse sometimes successfully suppress memory, but it never ends well for them. When you suppress negative emotions, you also suppress positive emotions. That is the problem with anti-depressants - you no longer feel so sad, but you also seem incapable of joy. Or even much worse. The rage comes out in other ways, against other people, innocent bystanders that never had anything to do with what happened to you. And you stand there baffled, unable to comprehend why you had just vented such terrible rage on a child for dropping an ice cream cone. You cannot and should not "erase" anything from your memory. Find someone safe to talk to. Not necessarily a professional counsellor. They become bored with hearing the same story over and over again and then they shut you up with: "you have to forgive and move on." And that is so painful, because it is judgemental, it indicates that there is something wrong with you for feeling pain. There isn't. You just need someone to hold you. To listen.

[@helenbrooks1316]

A Strong, Honest and Intelligent Young Woman. Forgiveness - Not allowing her memories and feelings about the past consume her everyday life. So True!! One can and never will forget the abuse so asking for total forgiveness can never be a thing. See The Evil for what it is, Cut contact with the perpetrators and leave them to God!! Nurture and Try and Heal holistically. Some very Sick People in the World!! Well Done Girl ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@BobbyTheDogGuy]

Its crazy how Ruby shared how she treated her children to 2 million people and CPS did nothing.

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

Most of those million were kids at the time I myself was one but even when I was little and watching some signs were very clearly bad

[@rebekahtablante327]

And that Sheri says she called CPS many times and they did nothing! So sad and scary that this could have been stopped a long time ago.

[@kmars3239]

Nor did the bishop

[@critterscute3642]

@@kmars3239 Yes. The “church” played a role. They recommended Jody to countless families that were destroyed by her in addition to the bishop having first hand knowledge of this situation.

[@michellesouthflorida9682]

not only that but her "followers" praised her constantly, and would come after anyone who DARED say anything negative.

[@river8760]

I hope the kids are getting the best care, support, love and specific counselling they need. They deserve to live happily and free from those monsters.

[@Ellie.isscary]

Hearing her call her Ruby is bone chilling. I've been watching their family since I was a child because I found their family so completely different from mine, it felt like watching a sci-fi movie. This whole case has been an eye opener to me since I feel like I never detected anything more than a really strict mother. I'm so proud of Shari and I really hope the rest of the family is healing.

[@totoo6958]

you are me!! i thought the same!

[@patrickripleyiii134]

It's really hard for people with good parents to understand it, I have great parents who love me, imagining having parents who don't is so alien to me

[@_rat_5758]

Same here

[@BMack-p9s]

Yes, a clear statement 'we are detached'.

[@ijustwantcake532]

@@patrickripleyiii134I’m glad you do. I didn’t, and I have to say knowing what a healthy love is like is some of the best protection against people like Ruby. People like her think that they have the right/authority to hurt other people, but it’s a crime against humanity if they’re slightly inconvenienced. I imagine that for her, recognizing how much she hurt her kids is like recognizing my icon is pink. You didn’t because it’s not important. This sounds crazy because it is. And I’m so happy you don’t have to figure out how parents like her think in order to survive. You might come across them. And even if you won’t be able to say WHAT is wrong or WHY it’s wrong, but you’ll be able to say THAT it’s wrong and that’s good enough to act on.

[@elizastevens8313]

How they could only have to serve four years is just beyond unjust for those poor kids and what they endured

[@moda78z]

4-30. We don’t know yet. It’s up to the parole board. I doubt they’ll let her out after 4.

[@taylorcampbell3450]

I think the family/those impacted can speak at her parole hearing too and say what they think about her being paroled. I wonder if any family will attend/have a stance. We know her parents think she should be let out.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I'd be shocked if either of them serve less than 10 years, there's just too much public outrage about the case.

[@SFBL1]

Honestly, it should have been 10-15, but I'm assuming they pled down, so what can you do?

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@@SFBL1 that's just not how the law works in Utah. They initially had 6 counts of child abuse, and when they pled down 2 counts were dropped. This just means that they'll serve 4-30 years instead of 6-30 years. But, since they'll almost certainly serve more than 4 years, it's sort of a moot point.

[@Berriyes]

"To my babies, my six little chicks, you are part of me." Bullshit.

[@Youtubeabcd1234]

Crocodile tears to manipulate any witness

[@SleepExports]

Narcissism

[@justso4509]

Those words from her really set my teeth on edge. #1 "To my babies" - They hadn't been babies for years #2 "my six little chicks" - They are human, not animals in a barnyard that you might "own" #3 "you are part of me" - *It's NOT ALL ABOUT YOU, Ruby!* They stopped being "part of you" when they were born. They are 100% their own people, and until they are adults you as a parent have a responsibility to properly care for them, not abuse them.

[@SleepExports]

@justso4509 aka narcissism

[@robbiephillips5827]

100%

[@haleyhagen7173]

Started the audiobook this morning. I can’t stop listening! Her words and the way she speaks is incredible. Proud of her for speaking up and finally getting a chance to speak out.

[@Mai-lh3xc]

She reads the audiobook?

[@haleyhagen7173]

@@Mai-lh3xc yes!

[@haleyhagen7173]

@ Yes!

[@SCORPIUSANCTUM]

YES! So brave

[@dominikaxy]

I will listen to it too.

[@cawilliams355]

The fact that Ruby was so popular has me worried for so many kids out there.

[@breezeh1127]

I think a lot of ppl like to watch the demise of others. I don't think they actually believed what they saw (kinda like reality tv) or practiced it and just liked the drama and the unbelievable things she said and did.

[@Nik_Key]

@@breezeh1127Yes she did! She had millions of people who egged her on and worshipped her every word. Why do you think she and Jodi had a platform.

[@idontknowwhatmyusershouldb3512]

@@breezeh1127 I watched 8 passengers almost daily for several years at their peak and I have to say that this wasn't the case. The appeal came from them being a massive family living either a very different or similar life to you, seemingly doing all these cool things. At this time, and at our age (I was between 10 and 13), I was unable to recognise the red flags. However, I did become gradually more suspicious overtime (as I know others did), especially between 2018-2019, Ruby became stricter in a way that was now obvious on camera. I agree with the original commentor, it is indeed worrying that Ruby was so popular.

[@notsolethall]

Probably a lot of moms like this and don’t realize it

[@jennifercheney4353]

​@idontknowwhatmyusershouldb3512any family that is on social media, or tv, and appears normal should raise red flags. That's been proven EVERY time....

[@queenoasis]

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how the Father got off scott free. He allowed Ruby to treat their kids that way that she did and claims he had no idea they were being abused. He was complicit in every way.

[@lovellmills7959]

Because he wasn't there. Convienetly. He sucked up to her no matter what.

[@estherahn1513]

Despite how horrible her mom is, she is really well adjusted, with such a strong grasp of seeing her mom the way she really is. Proud of her to write a book. I hope and wish her a future of great joy and health.

[@timidsore7933]

Exactly! She's very strong and smart, and is confident in herself. I've also been subjected to verbal and emotional abuse by my parents and relatives growing up, and it's left me quite unsure of myself.

[@estherahn1513]

​@timidsore7933 thank you for your vulnerable, honest, important reply. I am so sorry to hear about the pain awful adults put you through, during childhood, when we are most vulnerable. I am 41! And growing up with my parents... while maybe I am making an excuse that they weren't the "worst" (mom is narcissistic) left me and my two younger sisters all a little weird and with issues that we all struggled to this day to get through. my middle sister and I have mental problems. Mine have been severe the past 26 years. My sense of reality is WARPED. It messes with your sense of self, security. There are lots of disturbed, unhinged people out there: people who have debilitating hatred they spew almost indiscriminately towards others, but sometimes shows up in gender/race wars. Or those "karens"? I step back and think, wow. Maybe they weren’t shown the grace, patience and unconditional love that we all desperately need, but more so during childhood. I respect Shari so much and hope to be similar to her. I pray we all can get the healing we need and can live lives of love, and peace. Wishing you healing and the best health and life❤

[@timidsore7933]

​@@estherahn1513 Thank you for such a sweet response. Wishing you a lot of happiness and healing as well❤

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

Part of it was getting out when she did. Same can't be said for the others. There's no telling how much therapy they'll be going thru.

[@Careless-sv6cf]

Everyone can put on a mask when facing the public. This type of trauma is something that will take years of therapy and avoidance from her abusers to resolve. Luckily her mom is probably going to be spending decades in prison but her dad is still free and I'm sure she wants to be away from him as well considering he was no better.

[@fromthegetgo4981]

The dad was also a main abuser who participated in the vlogging aspect. It’s so sick that he’s getting off scott free just because the police caught it all after he moved from the house

[@torchbearer1973]

This is Utah. They value the father more than a woman and believe whatever he says.

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

Since Utah is a mormon state, they're happy to dump it all on mom and dad is out working all day, so "he didn't seen anything". They're the same kind of people who think Mr. Duggar is a good dad when he's actually a psycho.

[@peggycarey9042]

I don't think that's what happened. He didn't go to jail or prison because he cooperated and needed to be available to the kids. The other two lawyered up immediately and refused to help the children move on.

[@fromthegetgo4981]

@ The other two lawyered up because they were immediately arrested on their own premises. Charges were never brought forward to him, and he wasn’t arrested

[@rachelstanford9784]

Abusive dads usually do. It's always abusive moms the courts make an example out of.

[@ccoupel6864]

Children should not live in fear of their parents. Parents are supposed to protect their children at all cost.

[@704Woman]

They love asking victims "Do you forgive him/her?".

[@THEMCMLXXXVI]

We’re being programmed to “accept abuse” by realizing we can “forgive for yourself to heal”

[@rachelfay9582]

You can forgive someone for hurting you and still not want them in your life.

[@BunnyandMoon]

Sometimes people “forgive” only to give themselves peace of mind so they’re not harboring anger, which can be damaging to your own mental health. Not necessary because you’re actually redeeming them of their actions.

[@TAM2337]

Programmed by whom?​@@THEMCMLXXXVI

[@medarchou]

@@rachelfay9582 no need to forgive. she did it on purpose for years. just forget her

[@MikeyBsGarage]

A daughter referring to her mom by first name...🚩🚩🚩🚩 Good for Shari for speaking out!

[@abbieliz396]

I refer to my mom by her first name and it means nothing

[@Ashley-sl5qp]

@@abbieliz396 u n ur mom must have issues

[@feralhomunculus]

Everyone is saying this, but my cousin has called both of her parents by their first names since she was a child and they are very close. They live near each other and are very evolved in each other's lives. Some people just do things differently, and it doesn't always mean anything.

[@BeatrizVasquez-r5l]

@@abbieliz396me too, with zero fucks given either… This caught my attention caz I wish my mom could get time for being abusive, that’s y I had to relisten to the part where news broadcaster said the abuse was reported and Utah CPS did nothing

[@BeatrizVasquez-r5l]

@@feralhomunculusyeah actually that’s true but my mom will never be a mom to me

[@Sadie-d4r]

FOUR years? Did I hear that right? There is no justice in this country.

[@Eebie_Jeebies]

I believe it’s up to 60 but I would be going like 60 to life instead of

[@LoneStreet]

I wish her and her siblings loads of healing and positive energy from now and on. And that their parents never find a way back into their lives.

[@julieshelley-fd5kp]

4 years in prison is a joke---Both monsters should be locked up for life. This girl seems so lovely and bright!

[@AngelaRPierce]

It at least gives the kids some time to process. I hope Eve is an adult before Ruby gets out.

[@GmmBeast]

I heard it was 4 to 30 and depends on the parole something something. I doubt anyone would let those monsters out after just 4 years, especially with how public this whole story is.

[@julieshelley-fd5kp]

@@GmmBeast Ah, okay doll, thank you!

[@SOLDGREEN]

Yeah, because forgiveness and redemption are not qualities are the most high. We definitely want to hate and condemn everyone all the time because that’s what helps the world😂

[@Neckoya]

​@@SOLDGREENcan your brain comprehend that you can punish someone and forgive them at the same time? Probably not if youre here defending child abuse 🤮

[@Brìza-u3o]

Dinner isn’t a privilege! It’s a RIGHT! A right that is incumbent upon the parents who brought children into this world.

[@user-vt4vt4iq1p]

From my experience growing up here, this is how a lot of Utah parenting is. My parents, my aunts and uncles- all think and talk exactly like Ruby Franke.

[@michellestone8302]

What an incredibly well-spoken, articulate, and insightful young woman. Making lemons out of lemonade - inspiring.

[@cocolimecream]

When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade 🍋

[@pennylane36]

She’s always been that way. She’s always been confident and well spoken even at 12 and 14. She doesn’t act any different in this interview than she did on the KZbin channel

[@paulettejadowski4170]

That woman crying,cries for herself not for the hell she put her children through,as for the father,well,money was the parents priority .

[@Pinkkermit17]

I love the fact that she does not say “mom” she says Ruby.. I cannot wait to read her book, we all think everything is sunshine and roses on those social media channels but behind closed doors there are demons.

[@twcmyers4160]

Yeah we can see that on streams to on KZbin even with drug people to

[@hayleyhills5673]

Shari - I look forward to reading your memoir as writing what happens in your life, the trauma, the confusion all of it - can be so healing. You inspire me ✨

[@Milaperadotti]

Jody and Ruby were absolutely having a romantic relationship

[@marilynng2877]

Agree! It seems like Jodi hates men and is attracted to women, and this is why she destroyed so many marriages that came to her for counseling. If she wasn’t interested in Ruby, then why kick the husband out?

[@addie.official-xcb]

that’s pretty disgusting..

[@Moonstone115]

Ruby was definitely the pillow queen 😅

[@jeffreymartin6369]

@they.luv.adalynnexplain why

[@addie.official-xcb]

@ 1. It’s wrong for the kids. 2. It’s extremely unprofessional. 3. they were Christian, it goes against the religion.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

According to Kevin's second police interview, Ruby and Jodi were sleeping in the same bed with eachother and he wasn't allowed to go upstairs in his own house without permission. Ruby and Jodi were absolutely having a romantic relationship.

[@Starfish2145]

And he was a complete and total wimp

[@crystalsmith9038]

really, I thought ruby was straight since she said she was attracted to her own brother as well

[@meghansullivan6812]

Totally got that vibe!!

[@whims6278]

I think Jodi is a lesbian and suppresses that but ruby is just a narcissist who loved the attention and feeling special

[@spOOkytimes]

on on hand, I feel bad for him, because this isn't Jodi's first time destroying a marriage, but, on the other, he has always seemed complicit and hand-off as a father.

[@redwoods7370]

So glad these children received justice. Keep speaking out against child abuse. Shine a continual spotlight on it. 🙏

[@Amipalovestwilight]

Child abuse is apparently rampant in Utah, and at the same time underreported, because the LDS church advises abuse victims to call a church hotline instead of the police if something happened to them. This usually ends in the abuser getting away with it (meaning that he/she might be disciplined by the church, but is not getting arrested) and the vicitim not getting much (if any) help or even being blamed for what happened to them, because they wore immodest clothing or something. It's really sad. So glad these kids got the help and justice they deserved.

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

There is NO church that is helpful to abuse victims. Especially women.

[@JocieFire]

I am not sure how accurate this is currently, especially regarding children being blamed. Historically, for sure. US culture in general has been quick to victim-blame, glad we are starting to move away from that but we have a long way to go.

[@alycran]

There is not a church hotline. I grew up in Utah. I do believe there have been local church leaders who didn’t report abuse for whatever reason, which is sickening, but the overall church leadership definitely counsels leaders and members to contact the police. I honestly don’t think child abuse is more common in Utah than any other state, but I haven’t looked it up. Ruby Franke was absolutely not following church guidelines at all

[@onionbubs386]

iirc Utah recently changed reporting laws so leaders in the Mormon church aren't legally mandated to report child abuse. And that about 90% of Utah legislature is Mormon. That's horrifying. I wish more people recognized Mormonism as the cult they are.

[@lauragundry607]

What you’re saying about the church and Utah isn’t true.

[@deborahbaker4770]

Ruby isn’t sorry for what she did she’s sorry she got caught ‼️

[@wordswordswords8203]

yeah, her and that other person she did the abuse with are about as bad as it gets.

[@SerenaHe-z3k]

I don't think she is sorry at all, she only "apologized" to get a lesser sentence. To her, it's injustice. I know these type of people too well.

[@ezzb]

People falling for Ruby's act "I'm sorry, Jody manipulated me" was infuriating. Thank you Shari for reminding everyone this started long before Jody and is a much bigger issue than just the Frankie family. Children shouldn't be exploited as content

[@RnBReworked]

I like her response regarding forgiveness.

[@MauraPerovich]

I did too.

[@amsie_86]

Me too I struggle with the concept daily and have been for over 10yrs, I struggle with is letting go of the past having minimum contact with my mum. but I'll always be having contact for her sake not mine. I have unconditional love but it contact would send me down a downward spiral plus we have nothing to say to each other like strangers not mother and daughter so different. I've grown so much without my mum and thrived but the overarching guilt and grief never goes away

[@cupcakebetty-w2u]

​@@amsie_86im sorry about your mom. You deserved a mom who loves you

[@Ann-m8q4i]

I'm a Christian and I think many Christians think they have to "forgive" and basically give someone a second chance or whatever. Nope! People who are crazy are going to continue to be crazy. We have to warn people about people who are truly crazy. Adults who are violent are most likely ALWAYS going to be that way. Adults that are compulsuve liars are always going to be that way. We can't just "forgive" adults who do these things and act like these things never happened. I think we can forgive someone if they've had a bad day or cheated on a spouse, but I don't think we can forgive someone like John Wayne Gacy or adults like the Turpening family. Some adults are just pure evil!

[@RnBReworked]

@@amsie_86 Yeah, sometimes you have to protect yourself and your energy. I don't believe that just because someone birthed you, that you automatically have to remain in their lives and vice versa. I struggle with forgiveness too - my father was very cruel to my mother and even though he's been dead 30 years now, I still remember those hellish 10 years like they happened yesterday. It's even harder because I have no explanation for why he was the way he was so it's difficult to forgive.

[@faeriefire99]

Her testimony for children on social media was amazing! I highly advise everyone watch.

[@mariannejohannessen9751]

What's it called?

[@faeriefire99]

@mariannejohannessen9751 You can search Shari Franke testimony Utah lawmakers. I'll post a link in a separatereply, but they sometimes get removed

[@faeriefire99]

@mariannejohannessen9751 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3XXip-Kjsp_ic0si=5LYLg5pBhj42yKit

[@djjones7226]

Shari is indeed a remarkable young woman. She is courageous, as well. She attempted over and over to report the abuse of her siblings. No one was listening until that fateful day when 12 year old "RF" escaped. Thank God for the neighbor who intercepted him and immediately called 911! Hearing his words and the emotion when his voice cracked as he described what he witnessed on the emaciated little boy who had come to him for help..just took me to my knees. Shari could now share all that she knew to be true and finally be heard! She has unrelentingly advocated for her siblings and their safety. I'm overjoyed to hear Shari's statement that she is no longer afraid of Ruby. I admire this young woman's strength and her commitment to also advocate for all children who have had no choice but to participate in their parents self-aggrandizing Vlogs. I wish her peace, privacy and happiness as she moves forward with her life..free from the evil that defines Ruby's existence. As A Side Note; I suspected immediately when I saw Jody & Ruby interviewed together that they were lovers. *The abuse these two women have perpetuated on innocent precious children confirms that they are both diabolical!*

[@StamperWendy]

0:35 dinner is a right, food is a right, not a privilege 😫

[@Raddiebaddie]

Right you are REQUIRED to feed your child. That’s the bare minimum 😭

[@skyofthelivingdead]

Unfortunately some abusive parents use food as a means of control. It’s sick.

[@Carey86]

True. Dessert is the privilege, not dinner.

[@ChrisJericho-yf4db]

It was fine when I was growing up in the 90s and before then even so I head to take away dinner. People are addicted to food these days. One meal won't kill you here and there

[@briarchambliss]

@@ChrisJericho-yf4db portion control is nowhere near the same thing as food denial and refusal. food is a human right. sure not having one meal may not kill you but the psychological abuse of constantly being denied might.

[@simka2iza]

You don't have to be an influencer; we treat neighbors with the same blind faith. My grandmother made my mother's life a living hell, and to this day, my mom has to hear from neighbors and acquaintances how great a mom she had, how much she helped her. All their knowledge is based on the fact that my grandmother smiled at them, was talkative and friendly, and told the world her version of the story.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

My grandfather was the same, he would help neighbours mow the grass and was consider a stand up man by the community. However he would beat the whole family behind closed doors and demand to be treated like a king, or more accurately dictator. You know the stereotype of if the dinner was slightly cold then the wife gets beaten? That was what would happen, even if he was late home so it was his fault. I have never met my aunt because she ran away after being beaten so badly with a fire poker that she could not manage to go to school and pretend everything was fine. My grandfather was very angry at this so he beat her again and she feared he would kill her, so she flead, thankfully with the help of a friend and their family, she was 15. My grandmother never learned to drive because my grandfather would not allow it, even when they moved out of the city center. He wanted to drive her everywhere or they walked, for miles and miles. People used to say my grandfather was such a gentleman and wow he doesn't even make her fill the car or other duties but rather does it himself, yes because he wouldn't let her due to being incredibly controlling! My father doesn't talk much about the abuse he suffered in childhood but I am certain it contributed to the mental health and personal issues he struggles with to this day. People thinking he has an amazing childhood with the perfect father, and how could he not be perfect in those circumstances, certainly was a burden and caused extra stress. Out of all of the brothers my father has been able to be the healthiest I think and certainly the least sexist towards women but they are all suffering emotionally and I can't help but wonder how much better they would have turned out if they got rescued and held when they were being abused as children.

[@cupcakebetty-w2u]

My mom was the same way. I had to leave everyone behind

[@spOOkytimes]

preach.

[@im-gi2pg]

My sister said she thought our mom had a full-time job with our neighbors, lol. We had a violent childhood, daily she chased us in a circle inside through the house yelling screaming hitting hard with a brush. It was normal to be chased. Normal scary part of the day. Mostly we were locked outdoors like animals (too young for school) but that was good because we went to a eucalyptus grove up on the hill and played alone for hours. I remember age three sleeping on my stomach on a big downed eucalyptus tree smooth without bark. I realized as an adult during a healing that the tree mothered me.💚

[@cupcakebetty-w2u]

@im-gi2pg wow this is heartbreaking ❤️ you as a child went to find the comfort of a mother in the wilderness. My god. Bless your sweet soul

[@o.l.9016]

she is so smart for avoiding those questions the reporter was asking about the nature of ruby and the therapist’s relationship. huge props to her, hope she gets her wish of being off the grid for as long as she wants!

[@livvyb3583]

Hearing that man’s 911 call is so heartbreaking. ‘To my babies, my six little chicks, you are part of me’…….you mean the ones you abused and denied food….she needs to be in prison for a very long time, 4 years is not near enough!

[@snsn7251]

Absolutely chilling to this day

[@ClaireCopeland-n6y]

How about 40 years. Or 400

[@danusdragonfly6640]

Seeing the young boy approach his door with such skeletal legs is heartbreaking.

[@julieinnocent112]

The maximum sentence she got was 30 years. So I hope that she spends more time behind bars for 30 years.

[@CindyForsgren]

There is some mental illness involved with this women, rubie to think she was being a good mother and then get sucked up into this relationship with the therapist. Nd obvious the father is at fault big time. As well It's a sad world

[@annikabjornson998]

The way the 911 caller’s voice breaks down when describing the boy’s condition tells a lot about the torture Ruby and Jodi were quite comfortable committing.

[@mindeloman]

I've seen the non-blurred photos of the boy's injuries. It was heart breaking. The neighbor truly knew he had been through some bad stuff.

[@Aus_MS-Warrior]

She doesn't deserve to be called Mom! A mother loves & cares for her children.

[@soniaz1487]

Sending lots of love to all the Franke children. Want them to live their best lives possible! Happy for this young lady.

[@Jdksneo]

The thing that’s important to know is that this type of child abuse isn’t a rare occurrence. Like unfortunately this crap is happening all over the US and nothing is being done about it. Cops didn’t believe me as a kid when I asked for help to get away from my abusive family. It’s a problem. Glad this girl got away and realizes how much better she deserves.

[@shivareddy9821]

Fantastic explanation, thank you!

[@Lakotajo2]

We live in Utah. My kids went to school with Ruby, a sister and brother. They say their family was strange. The abuse started at least 2 generations before Ruby started her abuse. It gets a little weirder, my husband installed 2 closet organizers in their home. She did a bit of filming and Ruby fed him Subway for lunch.

[@stitches318]

Subway is pretty horrifying

[@rachelfay9582]

No wonder Ruby’s parents want her to be released. If this cycle of abuse goes back multiple generations, they probably don’t see anything wrong with how she treated the children. I’m proud of Shari for speaking out and hope her siblings are doing better these days.

[@iftheteafits]

No excuse. I was struck with a belt and wooden spoon but I didn't feel the need to inflict the same punishment on my child!

[@wayfarinstranger2444]

​@@rachelfay9582I was aware of Ruby's parents first, as I was watching their channel first. They seemed like the nicest people. I was shocked when I made the connection between the 2!😮

[@alycran]

@@wayfarinstranger2444ruby’s parents also have a channel? How old are they? I think her sister does

[@MB-jn1sx]

so so so proud of shari!! i don’t think you’re like your mother at all, im so proud of you for breaking the cycle! ❤❤❤

[@minsterhill]

Such a put-together young lady! May God and love be with you!

[@Grant1000]

OMG!!! I can’t believe it!! I can’t believe she came out!! SHE LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

What?

[@Grant1000]

@ I’m confused by you

[@surpriseimblack]

She looks like her mom

[@eeen4119]

@@surpriseimblackShe doesnt at all. He looks a lot like her mom’s mom though.

[@Hello-ze1sd]

Sending Shari so so much love and support I am so so sorry for everything all of these poor children have been through and are going through sending love xxxxx

[@shinyoshawott11]

so intelligent and well spoken. you have so many people in your corner supporting you shari ❤️

[@maggieirussell]

I hope Ruby never gets out of jail so the children can live peacefully

[@PHlophe]

when shary said i look like her and sound like her. i felt that . nothing worse than looking into the mirror and spotting the person you dislike. its uncomfortable as hell.

[@Bananas904]

Unfortunately this will not be the case. She was sentenced from 4 to 30 years.

[@sherryab3964]

I’m so inspired how strong this young woman is to speak out and take charge of her story. Good for you Shari! You chose not to be a victim and chose to be an advocate and a voice for those who do not have a voice. Bravo 👏 Shari, you deserve all the happiness this world can give you and then some. You will be an amazing Mother ❤

[@usernameanonymous158]

"I think she is as sorry as she can be. What she has done is so bad,that I don't think her mind allows her to kind of fully comprehend the guilt of all that." This is such a strong statement, and very wisely said, and brave! God bless you ❤

[@lesliematteis8010]

Good luck Shari. You are so intelligent and Brave. Congratulations on your engagement. You will be an excellent mother. You are nothing like Ruby. I hope your younger siblings can figure things out so well!

[@PenelopePitstop0078]

I always wanted to be blessed with a daughter, and raising my two sons were the best years of my life. I’ll NEVER understand parents who treat their children like this‼️

[@PHlophe]

Being Mommy Penny to sons is cute as hell too . but you have daughter in laws surely

[@PenelopePitstop0078]

@@PHlophe so nice to read a sweet comment❣️ Thank you for doing that; our world has become so wicked & hateful, that a simple kind gesture is appreciated. I’ll have 10 kids in my next life, lol. I just love kids and the awesome responsibility of devoting oneself to doing the best job you can, to guide them onto a happy, productive life. Yes, I’m even still close with my one former daughter in law, I love her dearly. But, the other one has an issue, in that she’s a bit threatened by the close bond with my eldest son, so she can act a bit weird. I spanked my sons, once. Because, they got ahold of a large butcher knife from the kitchen and proceeded to slice up the back of a chair. Then, in I walked, and it scared the bejesus outta me, so they got 2-3 swats on the bottom. They do not physically discipline my four Gbabies. Together, we stopped a generational cycle of it being ok to physically hurt your children. This, hopefully, should be the goal of every parent, imho.

[@amsie_86]

because they think the world revolution around them and there needs, they only see things from there perspective abd how it affects them. they can physically look after a child but emotionally they've no clue

[@mdrejuyan5463]

You explained this so well, thank you!

[@mrqs1549]

I’m so happy that she is doing well. I hope that her siblings are doing well too. I cried watching their story. Sending my best wishes to them.

[@cilajoao1]

You need a license to have a dog and you do this to your children?? They should rot in jail.

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

They were NOT sentenced to jail.

[@bodhiswayze1892]

The bravery of that little boy who escaped & went for help is incredible. I will never forget hearing the 911 call the neighbour makes where he gets choked up seeing this child. This was evil.

[@BMarie774]

I had no idea Shari wrote a book. I literally paused this video at 3:06, went and purchased it, and came back. It’ll be delivered tomorrow morning between 4-8AM

[@pickleBOB405]

Update me on how it is!

[@angelatheartist8349]

If you pay for Spotify you can listen to it there. I'm more than halfway done and this woman is deep for her age. It's beautifully well written.

[@rrr441]

Okay...

[@abbieliz396]

I can’t afford it :) I thought the economy was bad for us all… hm.. Enjoy!

[@isabellabass5346]

It’s amazing, I’m reading it now.

[@oreos4843]

The most astonishing thing to me is that internet communities were ringing alarm bells far before any action was actually taken against her. People want to think this is an uncommon thing. It's not.

[@onionbubs386]

People were reporting her to CPS for years, but Utah government couldn't care less about child welfare

[@doygazgar]

Both their statements before sentencing were absolutely fkn repulsive, and both should serve at LEAST 15 years

[@BMarie774]

I’m glad shari is speaking out. She’s doing so while respecting her other siblings, but also telling her story. People were awful to Shari. They called her Ruby 2.0 etc. and said she was Ruby’s “minion”, a goody two shoes, etc. And yet she’s nothing like her mother.

[@AngelaRPierce]

It's the two next oldest girls that I was concerned about being the "minions". Every time Ruby was coming down on someone, they were in the background, egging it on. And when the police visited Pam's house, they seemed unwilling to cooperate. I wonder how they are doing, now that Ruby isn't in the home.

[@apok1980]

She seems wise beyond her age.

[@karbearmama1973]

Wow, what a wise and beautiful woman. I am a survivor of child abuse and have raised three wonderful kids in a peaceful home, thanks for God's healing in my life. It is possible to break the cycle of abuse.

[@WH2012]

She is wise well beyond her years. She has a very bright future ahead of her.

[@rayluby6659]

Being wise beyond one’s years is a known side effect of a traumatic childhood 😢

[@abbieliz396]

Yes. Can’t wait for her to have a family of her own! She is gonna make a great mother and wife- a true woman!! So happy for her

[@abbieliz396]

@@rayluby6659 nah. My childhood was great and Ive always been labeled with that trait. She’s just awesome

[@marymiller8370]

The father should be in jail as well. He walked away and let those kids SUFFER. How dare he not suffer as well

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

Ruby and Jodi were never sentenced to jail.

[@roanmangan7417]

@@Ausgar-yc1ylyes they were????

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

@@roanmangan7417 Wrong, they were NOT. There is NO such thing as being sentenced to jail for years. You have no idea what jail is.

[@roanmangan7417]

@@Ausgar-yc1yl prison then lmfao you clown 🤡

[@roanmangan7417]

@@Ausgar-yc1yl Awwww is someone mad we used Jail instead of prison? Booooohoooo 😂

[@VampiraVonGhoulscout]

Thank you, Shari, for your bravery. It's so validating for those of us who were abused to hear your story.

[@samanthacollado8964]

Wow.!. Shari Frankie is beautiful.!. May god continue to bless and protect her.

[@JessicaLeist-oh9go]

You go girl! You’ve got this! Thank you for sharing your story! It could not have been easy!

[@chelseakingdom7775]

She's so balanced and well spoken. Good for her. Praying for her happiness and success. Wonderful for her. ❤

[@ShaunaAllen-qn6lt]

Brave girl. Stay strong. Love to you and your longsuffering siblings. That father should not escape scrutiny as well.

[@splatteaverse]

Heard about this case. This is truly one of the saddest stories I ever came across while scrolling online during my college for a few years, the oldest daughter calling the woman who used to be her mother by her own name gives so many chills. Hopefully the oldest daughter and the rest of the children are doing much better and continue to live together freely from this nightmare.

[@tlotus3032]

Bravo for your honesty 🎉❤

[@SamAsm367]

I respect her advocacy and agree that minors should not be on social media. I see digital natives using their offspring for content and it makes me uncomfortable. Babies are defenseless.

[@gracemedina58]

Monetizing a child's life is stealing their privacy and childhood.

[@cantthinkofone6995]

Kevin should have received some charges/time behind bars as well.

[@emma2370]

Why? He wasn’t involved in the abuse ruby was charged and convicted of. He had been banished from the family. He is guilty of some stuff but it’s wild to me how so many people would defend a mother who was a victim of abuse but have no compassion for a father.

[@onionbubs386]

​@@emma2370yes he was. the abuse was going on for years and documented on their family channel. It definitely got worse when Jodi came into the picture, but Kevin was very much an active participant in the abuse.

[@lxxeax7446]

@@emma2370Are you braindead? Never mind the fact that Ruby was abusive from the get go and there’s literal video footage of him participating in it - you can’t simply banish someone and keep him from seeing his children. He could’ve informed the authorities, do literally ANYTHING but he didn’t do shit, he’s 100% guilty. Not doing anything to help his children is a decision he made, inaction is also an action.

[@transcendcapitalism]

@@emma2370Because he was complicit in all of it. He did not stop it

[@anaceweirdo1579]

​@@emma2370 when the eldest daughter tried to gather evidence, he actively tried to block her from getting his journal, which has details on how he was complicit on the abuse.

[@dolliemollly]

i very well spoken person who has probably procured cptsd but continues to be a light for those being mistreated. i send all of the love in the universe to her.

[@michelle7959]

Shari’s aunts and grandparents still blog and make money off their kids and grandkids. Pathetic! Good for Shari in trying to change the narrative of her family norm.

[@BeefSnot]

vlog*

[@purple_rxin]

​@val_89602 there's Ellie and Jared, bonnie hoellin and I think the drew crew is Julie's channel I don't know her brothers channel though

[@lenaf9470]

@@val_89602deru crew, bonnie hoellin, ellie mecham

[@marylawson4492]

Yes and those aunts run a tight ship with their kids too. Especially Bonnie. You can sense the fear in those kids at time when they are doing family stuff. Even when opening presents at Christmas. They would look at Bonnie and ask if they could open their present?

[@purple_rxin]

@@marylawson4492 I haven't watched any of them since I was a kid since I moved into the gaming side of KZbin. Bonnie always seemed strict and had a sharp tone. I used to like Ellie a bit more but as I've gotten older I'm so against family channels especially with more the labrant family stuff and then this

[@BMarie774]

I’ve been waiting to hear from Shari. She’s a hero to her siblings.

[@sarahpowell9952]

This young lady is a miracle- truly amazed at her maturity and grace.

[@michelemichele5204]

she is an incredibly smart lady, i wish her nothing but the best! a child should never be scared of their parent.

[@StacysSoCalledLife]

Im so happy for Sherri! I watch a KZbinr that calls out these family vloggers! No child should be exploited for the parents gain in wealth and celebrity status! Theres tons more like the children of the Franke family out there and it needs to be called out by news media!

[@KaleighMulligan-wm8cg]

Whos this KZbinr, I wanna see folks like Ruby being called out for this type of nonsense

[@StacysSoCalledLife]

@@KaleighMulligan-wm8cg dad challenge podcast. Hes a bit abrasive for some people but he’s been calling out family vloggers for years!

[@corpgurl]

This young lady is so wise and is a prolific writer. I’m reading her book now! She went through a lot, but has come into her own. She has a lot of heart.❤

[@amberleegollahon7843]

Shari has always had a strong head and heart, I pray she continues to heal and also her siblings come to understand as they grow older that all she wanted to do was to protect them. As someone who was an avid viewer and have met them a few times, I didn't see it until I got older and the kids lived it! ❤ proud of you Shari.

[@ThalapathiThalapathi-e1g]

This was exactly what I needed, thanks!

[@Glazygemini]

That feeling of seeing your parent in yourself and having to reason with yourself that you don’t have to be like them…that’s where it hits home.

[@staceyorwan2008]

Loose a privilege to eat dinner? Horrible , never withhold food from a child. This story is awful for all these children. I'm glad the little boy was able to get help from the neighbors 🙌.

[@Jahkaya101]

I used to watch their channel as a young kid. So heartbreaking to know that this is what was happening the entire time. Shari is such a role model and such a strong, courageous, inspirational young woman. Shari, if ur reading this, I want you to know that EVERYONE is proud of you. Live your life to the fullest. You deserve it❤

[@itbandreaboyle]

Just purchased Shari's book! Can’t wait to read it. Used to watch the family vlog for years

[@alysiawallace9624]

What a beautiful and mature young woman! Good for you!