Prime Crime: The YouTube Mom Who Put Her Kids Through Hell - Ruby Franke

From a popular KZbin family vlogger to a convicted child abuser, the shocking story of Ruby Franke has captivated the nation. From influencer to inmate, the KZbin mom has hit rock bottom behind bars alongside her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. This episode of “Prime Crime with Jesse Weber”
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[@AnnSuann-cl8zf]

Anyone have more than five children is not normal

[@Tricia-yf1ld]

@@AnnSuann-cl8zf. That’s not true at all!☹️

[@cindysis]

​@@Tricia-yf1ld I agree with u wholeheartedly. My great- grandmother had 10 because she wanted lots of kids my grandparents had 7 my mother had 8 and I have 6.

[@jaynejameson1607]

​@@AnnSuann-cl8zfplease enlighten us 🙏

[@Spooky_pookie]

I have 8 children and I am very normal and never abused them.

[@lunalovegood6303]

There should be a law that you are not allowed to post children under 18 online.

[@missJolie85]

I don't think that is the solution, children on tv is a representation of society, but there should be restriction on what and how something is shown.

[@susannasolis2864]

I agree 100%.

[@wendyblack933]

online NOT TV@@missJolie85

[@sacredcoaching5107]

While I agree parents and caregivers shouldn’t ( I don’t post pictures of my granddaughter, three, on SM) it would be taking away rights away from a good loving parent. But this day and age with SM it’s dangerous.

[@NishaVee]

If that's the case there should be no kids actors under 16/18 especially working for Disney and Nickelodeon

[@PipsKay432]

The true hero of this case is the 12 year old boy, who escaped and got help for himself and his siblings

[@bz3548]

Agree 💯.

[@bz3548]

I hope the parole board keep them in prison for a lot more time than 18 months. It will take a lot more than 18 months for the children to feel normal.

[@lakanron640]

He's gonna be messed up for life.

[@nikkihayes9236]

AMEN!! 💯 🙏 🙌 💖

[@cpb0589]

@@lakanron640it’s so sad 😞

[@GEKENILWORTH]

Not only is the 12-year-old boy a hero, but so is the compassionate neighbor who called the police to get the boy help.

[@splinterbyrd]

Well it's no different to what any of us would do if a starving child turned up on our doorstep. But I agree, it's especially moving given that that's probably the first bit of kindness that poor boy has experienced for months, possibly years. I hope he recovers, but tbh I'm not all that hopeful😢 Hildebrandt and *both* Frankes are clearly insane. I don't think they should be in prison; all 3 should be in secure mental hospitals. Permanently.

[@jeffsaxton716]

He wept. A truly compassionate guy. Thank you, sir.

[@user-ot7bj4mn8s]

Id help to, and so would you

[@PCKA1987]

I’m done with these online “life coaches” and “influencers” and “fitness gurus”. So much BS out there.

[@kathleenfreed5597]

I agree, it all baffles me.

[@chrisandshazza01]

Amen to that, wouldn’t go anywhere near them!

[@tamibrooke5155]

Yes! Health coaches also. They use the platform to scam desperate and sick people. Like “Justin Health”. I tried him and he pushed me through our conversations, didn’t provide what was promised and was unprepared during paid coaching….. like didn’t look over my blood work or results before hand and didn’t know how to respond or help me!

[@irenepadmo5745]

Don’t forget the Kardasian how they’re ripped off their fans with shonky products and lied to their teeth

[@fozzydare7987]

I’ve always wondered about these YT ‘expert’ coaches etc - never dabbled - this nonsense confirms all my doubting

[@kalpanaperry6709]

Parents should not be allowed to profit off of their children nor should they be allowed to film their children's most personal private moments for the world to see. What is wrong with these parents?

[@melanieamber1973]

Exactly 💯

[@bluewave7120]

And social media for allowing such behavior

[@n0tfr0mth1sw0rld]

What is wrong with the millions of viewers who watch their content? If noone would be watching they wouldn't have an incentive to film their children 😔

[@edithdlp8045]

​@@n0tfr0mth1sw0rldI never saw this show. The only information I have is of the aftermath.

[@ericswild]

There is a special place in he'll for these womem

[@onelove0890]

Making a child go without lunch because the little girl forgot… SHES A CHILD, they forget that stuff it’s a mother’s job to make sure the child has lunch. Even as an adult I sometimes forget my own lunch for work. These poor children.

[@christinalopez5606]

That was a red flag to me as well.. like shecis just a child.. so you go to the school & bring it..simple or charge it.. smh.. that was wrong

[@Katie-rx8ql]

I watched that video as she made it as I was a follower and I remember then thinking how nasty that was.

[@KatieDeGo]

Agreed. Also, did they not have school lunch she could've paid for for her kid?

[@belladaylight2132]

Yeah, i don't even know how many times I went out to lunch or ordered lunch because I forgot mine or just overslept in the morning...

[@cjking4511]

@@christinalopez5606 I agree. I believe it is a parent's job to make the lunch for the kids NOT the other way around! Aint like the mother had a real job. She had lots of free time to prepare lunches and cook meals for those kids.

[@davinalucas9275]

Franke was abusing her children way before Hildebrand came on the scene. They are both evil and should be jailed for the full 30yrs.

[@MorrWorm8]

FACTS!!!!

[@splinterbyrd]

It makes you wonder what must have gone on in Hildebrant's and Franke's own childhoods

[@jennycole6529]

My thoughts exactly

[@icebergrose8955]

Hildebrand was abusing children way before Ruby came along. Both horrible people.

[@halloweenville1]

The fact that it took one of her kids to escape, rather than her 2 million subscribers to report her crazy behaviour, tells you all you need to know about our current society.

[@amandawoods5069]

They did from my understanding. There were even petitions out to get police to look at her.

[@halloweenville1]

@@amandawoods5069 Petitions petitions petitions, that's not taking action. Taking action is forming a vigilante, people rising up and reacting themselves. That's what's wrong with society these days, still stuck in the delusion that signing forms and relying on police is going to save people (it's not) and if petitions are ignored, it's time to take law into our own hands. It's 2024, they don't care anymore. Haven't people learned anything about how the system works now.

[@melaniegould9002]

Sherri one of the oldest also tried calling the police when she moved out but the police didn’t have a warrant

[@halloweenville1]

@@melaniegould9002 Nobody tried hard enough.

[@melaniegould9002]

I don’t disagree. Sherri knew it was bad and didn’t push the investigation. Sherri isn’t all to blame. Family and viewers who say the signs should have pushed police

[@BellaCW]

Ruby is a part of *10* women that were being "trained" by Hildebrandt. They should definitely look into the rest of them as well, not only the obviously public ones.

[@maqui8667]

To teach “Mental Fitness”

[@cloudburn498]

i was thinking this was a cult of some sort listening to this story, im sure that was the aim, the guy in the therapy group couldnt leave, imagine someone having that sort of power over you.

[@eponack]

@@cloudburn498It’s a cult born from a cult. Mormonism is a dangerous thing that we have let grow into many branches and we just keep looking the other way.

[@anthonyhomesly950]

Right. This was effectively a CULT. and everyone involved needs to be investigated

[@maggyf3932]

Sounds like a cult situation to me. When I saw Jody on screen in the courtroom I thought to myself, oh, here comes the cult leader.

[@slconley]

Ruby smiles so big and bright when she’s talking about punishing the kids. She’s a sadist and enjoyed inflicting pain.

[@khaI624]

What is a sadist?

[@slconley]

@@khaI624 a person who enjoys inflicting pain and humiliation on others.

[@jcallwood25]

@@khaI624stop being lazy. Google is your friend.

[@christinablair1978]

​@jcallwood25 You could have just told them the definition of sadist, it took the same amount of time and effort to write this pointless comment instead.

[@jcallwood25]

@@christinablair1978 I don’t need to do anything. I look up meanings of words myself instead of asking ppl to do the work for me. You stay safe though😘

[@jasonhansen8996]

I am 47 - a victim of child abuse. TRUST ME - those kids will absolutely deal with this for the rest of their lives. The amount of publicity is going to add additional layer of difficulty for them, so yeah. It's gonna be with them forever

[@chengestaciones2974]

I'm sorry for what you been through I'm praying for you and to those children for peace and healing 🙏❤️

[@jasonhansen8996]

@@chengestaciones2974 I appreciate it... I only share what I've gone through so people will understand that I know exactly what I'm talking about, not for prayers or thoughts. It's just hard to get someone who has not experienced it to understand that the kids - regardless of how many years of counseling... Will NEVER get ahead of or "outrun" the effects of child abuse.

[@jarkachalmovianska7812]

​@@jasonhansen8996 unfortunately so many kids are abused in one way or another.... sooooo many

[@feliciamccarron300]

The father definitely showed no concern for his children. He needs to be held accountable

[@sgillenkirk84]

agreed!!! Ruby has said several times in various ways "she wasn't done with them," and she's sad that she has to leave Kevin to finish what they started.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

So agree! How could he allow that?

[@hayesedwards4883]

Dont forget to hold youtube accountable. This vlogger had many complaints. Family vlogging shouldnt be allowed.

[@JC-hy7vm]

100% agree!!

[@cjking4511]

I DISAGREE. There is no law stating YT should hire employees to monitor vlogging posts. People who watch the posts have the power to take the video down by complaining about it. Too many complaints = post taken down by the computer algorithms.

[@hoserbike]

I feel that, and then I wonder how many victims have been helped by the public noticing these people's evil.

[@dianeratti5644]

​@@cjking4511 They already watch all KZbin things going on that's why you can't say what you really want to say !!!!!!

[@lala1004u]

Hildibrant should be a scientologist...she'd fit right in...she able to brainwash she's able to disconnect families and abuses children...so sad

[@tyronethomas4543]

I don't like the idea that Pam saying "we have guests coming, so we MADE the girls do some cleaning, but they did it of their own free will". Every adult in that whole circle, should be looked into.

[@mzj384]

Yes exactly Who says "they did it of their own free will?" WTH

[@bellycurious]

Oh... teenagers ( or adults!)that enjoy cleaning someone else's house. What a great hobby. 😂

[@elhonigg]

So weird. Unless the kids were literally brainwashed to want to clean.

[@lexiatel]

And to be under the assumption, but when the husband of Pam was so defensive, that was a red flag for me...

[@helenaquvang7705]

And the way they respond to the police. If they were not a part of using the kids, then they wouldn’t have been hostile and the girls would have talked. They reacted like hostages especially when they walked out to the cars.

[@charis3256]

My kids are 8&11. I’d never make them be responsible for their lunches. That’s my job.

[@t.8936]

I might be like "we should make your lunch. Come help!" If they said no, I would be like. Well, you should learn. Come on over. But I wouldn't make it their responsibility or ever have them go without a meal.

[@Joanne152]

That's seriously the worst you got out of this

[@mina5142]

What baffles me is every time somebody is abusing their kids they have like a dozen kids. Like, if you hate kids so much why have so many?

[@t.8936]

That's not freaking true. Lots of abusers have one or two kids. But a Mom of 8 gets more traction online so you know about it.

[@SophiesWorld2024]

A lot of people have kids because you get respect in society for having kids...not because they like kids. My mother is one of them.

[@courtneygrier2015]

And yet we are the monsters for not wanting kids at all...

[@Maggs.19]

They ONLY plead guilty because they were terrified of those children giving a testimony. They knew it would be so much worse for themselves.

[@dukki.2192]

That is ALWAYS the case. If children testify, perps get the book!!

[@GR-nz5rz]

I think the same thing. Poor children. They pleaded guilty for there own beneficial bc they are in big risk if they speak. They are not concerned for the children but only for themselves.

[@veeyan6882]

This is the biggest bs, u force kids to constantly get on court n speak and if they dnt the case falls apart ?

[@oohhsedagod6183]

Bingo! And I still would let them children testify!!

[@splinterbyrd]

I still can't get my head round how Hildebrandt was able to practise as a "therapist." I mean if I opened a clinic based on the scientific truth that Coca-Cola cures cancer... isn't there anyone who would try to stop me??

[@KeremcanBuyuktaskin]

Influencers and life coaches are the ultimate cancer of the age we live in.

[@carlapaz8722]

I agree.

[@dorotaroberts2848]

Agree . They are dangerous

[@sheilaanderson321]

Exactly!!!!

[@gail9566]

These mommy channels need to be shut down and outlawed

[@Justice55339h]

Yes but there are some (if not many) very abusive license psychotherapists who ruin people's mental health and lives as well.

[@svenlundergard1]

How many millions of parents have these monsters INFUENCED?? How many more kids are being abused??

[@allahlovesyou7241]

😮😮😢😢

[@AL-zb9rv]

Monsters don’t have horns, red/blue skin or scary teeth,. They look kind, come of as a bright person and mellow,the average person.NEVER underestimate ANYONE.

[@janusresh962]

This is perfectly correct! I was scammed just recently because the other party looked so innocent.

[@AL-zb9rv]

@@janusresh962 Sad to hear it! Hope you’re okay.

[@jgp1294]

Not a very healthy way to go through life

[@lindseytrainor3338]

@@jgp1294as long as you have firm boundaries they’ll choose someone else

[@jgp1294]

@@lindseytrainor3338 eeexactly

[@willow4430]

The fact that she had millions of followers is more than concerning. Makes you wonder what’s happening in those homes as well.

[@FloppityFlopFlop777]

Exactly.

[@itsjustme9354]

True

[@jp5483]

Tbh i was one of them back in around 2018. i quit the channel when I had my own kids. It just felt so off what they had going on in their home. And back then it was „only“ how they had to clean the house, how they were doing home schooling and forced to pay their instruments daily. Really don’t want to know how this went on…

[@Robloxqueen7423]

True I didn’t even know about her until all this came out. Never knew about this family. Family bloggers in general should be checked in on all the time. They care more about the content than the children. All to often

[@dianeratti5644]

Sick insane people will follow makes me sick 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@80club45]

4 years is absolutely ridiculous, they should have gotten at a minimum 20 years in prison

[@jaynejameson1607]

They got what? They got away with it? 4 yrs is getting away with it 🤬 disgusting isn't it 🤬

[@tspaulding3845]

The fact that the MOTHER followed the abuse, shows she knew better. How does a mother agree that holding a child's head under water was helping the child? 4 years was absolutely disgusting. They didn't care if the children testified, it was WHAT the children would testify about - SMH

[@stacYvonne]

No, they got 1 to 15 years per count of 4 counts. So they will serve a minimum of 4 years and a maximum of 60. I believe Ruby will do much more than 4 years and Jodi will do even more than her.

[@bears_bears_bears]

They should have gotten a year for every year each of those children will live for. So, let's say 80 years per kid. Because the damage is permanent. Severe childhood trauma literally changes your brain permanently.

[@stacYvonne]

@@bears_bears_bears I 100% agree with you. I don't understand that there's a possibility that they will actually serve under 2 years. I'm shocked that they are both not doing at least 40 or 50 years.

[@emmaba8265]

The Dad never knew?!?! Oh please.

[@mariaking9802]

He was nodding his head during the hearing. He knew!

[@RubyRedDances]

"Sure I'll watch your kids! I'll use them as free labor!"

[@wheatbread2002]

The fact that Ruby never said I'm sorry to her kids in her statement, says all that needs to be said.

[@evolicious]

Because she is not sorry.

[@Jemoda0015]

An apology is pointless. What would that do?

[@wheatbread2002]

@ElizabethCroke-de9qr her statement was an "apology". I'm stating she didn't even say sorry. If i was a judge, It shows how unremorseful she is, and wouldn't lessen her sentence.

[@wheatbread2002]

@reinhardvonlohengramm6296 her statement was an "apology". I'm stating she didn't even say sorry. If i was a judge, It shows how unremorseful she is, and wouldn't lessen her sentence.

[@maggyf3932]

32:50 hmm... What's she saying there?

[@carmenm.478]

All these KZbin families that portray themselves to be happy and perfect who expose their kids for views should be investigated.

[@EBB505]

Yes I agree! The children don't and can't give their consent. I'm sure they are not always in the mood for our recording and that would be abusive because they're forced to show up for work.

[@hestersue5563]

MOST ARE NOT HAPPY, ITS JUST A PHONY FRONT

[@user-bn7bk5mw4s]

Kate Goslin. No murderer but fooled everyone

[@sarahcomerford4607]

Right

[@mariaakader1572]

I agree 💯. Never understood the mentality of those parents who expose every detail of their child's life for views.

[@jcfra420]

Ruby is such a freaking liar. She was abusing those kids WAY BEFORE she met Hildebrandt. She just does not want to take accountability for the fact that she is garbage. Ruby is going to find that true justice will happen in prison. We all know what is done to people that hurt children in prison.

[@twilso9]

It’s baffling that only two people went to prison for this when it’s CLEAR it was systematic abuse that MANY people were involved in.

[@lencicollier6492]

I call BULLSH*T concerning the Father NOT knowing anything!… 😠 Wasn’t he in the home the year his eldest son lost his bed… and had to sleep on a f**kin’ beanbag for 8 months?… He knew PLENTY! 😡

[@hyanotha]

The father is almost as bad as his wife. He saw what was going on and he obviously didn't think anything of it.

[@user-zl9zr7gc7p]

The Father was there when she was filming taking the kids beds away, making then sleep on the bath room floor, and threatened to go without meals though. He just wasn't around when she got catch and was arrested.

[@samanthaallsopp7358]

Yet, he loved his kids so much he didn't see them in over a year??

[@steffaniebusana8491]

Agreed!!

[@lencicollier6492]

@@user-zl9zr7gc7p Yep!... EXACTLY!

[@justjet175]

The man on the 911 call sounds like he's completely given up on humanity after seeing that boy. 😢

[@splinterbyrd]

The man on the 911 call restores my belief humanity. Hildebrant and Franke ought to be grateful the 12yo survived. Had he not, they could now be both facing the death penalty.

[@RendaJane]

@@splinterbyrd Had he not escaped when he did, Rube and Judas would have buried them in the desert.

[@ninagalia1796]

Wow! Those kids will be traumatized for life . Those 2 women deserve life in prison .

[@ONYX_200]

No. As a counselor or psychologist you have a responsibility to report Child abuse.

[@terryKessler42719]

Not if you self proclaimed that you are a life coach. Be whatever you wish to be. This is terrible and should never be allowed. But they got away with it.

[@RosaGlez-ls1oz]

We don't own our children, they aren't possessions, they are independent individuals with their own feelings and will.

[@mommmiern]

We are only trusted to borrow this time to lead them, then let them go. I agree

[@syreetacunningham899]

I totally agree

[@bettyprice7428]

And you shouldn't try to break their will.

[@bettyprice7428]

They both were lying about why they did it.

[@Princessfrmalmighty]

Riiight and i dont have kids and understand that

[@michellegomes2030]

She was already cruel to the children before this coach appeared.

[@JudgeyJudgeyable]

Agreed. The coach just validated her feelings

[@yogabee2222]

2 🥜🥜 jobs

[@Bumblexo]

I totally agree but I also feel like Jodi made it worse

[@mely1022]

Right!! People started questioning her behavior way before that coach appeared. She was a very strict mom with questioning discipline methods. I still cant forget that she sent her oldest son to those therapy wilderness camps just because he needed extra discipline 😢. Her oldest son was the most “rebellious” and you could see how bad it ticked her that he wasnt her perfect little servant as her other kids

[@zojairam]

No amount of brainwashing will convince me to deprive my children of food, chain them, and let someone abuse them. Ruby is just as responsible as Yodi. Also I don’t believe that the father didn’t know cause even his older knew that the kids were being abused.

[@reesev5]

Why has this guy not pressed charges against JH for HIPPA violations and named her in a civil suit?

[@TheMary0831]

The way Ruby grins when her son says he's not been in a bed for months. Sick.

[@Odette321]

The way the oldest son grins while talking about tormenting his little brother is the same. He's creepy like his mother.

[@GK-arcadia]

​@@Odette321He was raised that way

[@yellowishgreendragon.-.]

​@Odette321 Ruby's reaction was worse. It was narcicissm. He also wasn't tormenting his brother, he was playing a prank one time like most siblings do.

[@Katie-rx8ql]

Oh did you see the pure evil in her eyes though when her son was talking. She was clearly embarrassed by what her son was saying as we were not meant to be told that he'd had no bed for months. Her face turns from a smirk to an angry grimace. That woman is totally evil.

[@SatieSatie]

​@@Katie-rx8ql If she had been so embarrassed, then she wouldn't have uploaded it. Either way, she gives me the creeps.

[@michelleallred8521]

There is NO such thing as a certified mental fitness trainer!!!!

[@suzerick75116]

I think both Ruby and Jodi were certifiably mentally ill...lol

[@jonathanturner4220]

Certified Mental Gymnastics Trainer

[@patriciamckeon4650]

Certified Mental Psycho is more like it 💥

[@moonfaith9682]

Certified lesbians 💀

[@arielasgedom3242]

I agree with you

[@parvati33377]

Life in prison is what BOTH these creatures should receive. and certainly, ZERO contact with the children. and I hope the children get deep counseling and protection. so sad.

[@FatNebraskaMom]

"Trust your instincts. Build up that muscle of intuition." Truer words never spoken. ❤💪

[@LakesLauren]

“I made them scrub the floors. But they did it on their own free will”. Who says that?? Who makes someone else’s kids clean their house? Why did they have to “scrub” floors anyway. Pam didn’t even ask what was going on - because she knew. She needs to be investigated too.

[@Clarene24]

Thank you She was in on it also

[@jasmin140100]

I was thinking the same thing 🤔

[@gillmahoney4742]

I5s wrong as you know to make kids scrub floors. I had to do lots of chores when a child along with granny but i didntmind, children know no different.

[@gillmahoney4742]

I dont like intrusion but when i see this I feel far more watching is necessary

[@GR-nz5rz]

Exactly

[@Boopierthanmost]

6 children ❤ 6 healthy and cheerful kids, what a blessing she had. She just ruined everything, sick evil monster

[@GreenSharpieScience]

She was probably doing it to them all along while they looked all cheerful

[@helgardhossain9038]

Yes, and she did EVERYTHING ON HER OWN ... That poor dad didn't see ANYTHING living under the same roof with his family ... and cashing in, as well ... such a poor victim ... 😅

[@doctorjames4245]

It went completely downhill when she joined that terf cult

[@scottinnh88]

Beautiful family and the money to put them in the best schools give them the American dream and this is how these demons do it. I despise these people.

[@PeaceNYC2011]

"I made her vacuum," "it was her own free will," This couple knew what was going down at the Hildebrandt house.

[@lilu6766]

The adults were all peas in a pod. Same mentality.

[@misshoneychurch8153]

Kevin loved his family so much, loved his kids so much he abandoned them.

[@scottshanahan3827]

The kid lost his bed for seven months BEFORE Jodi got involved so no way he didn't know.

[@Kim-wt2gl]

That's Right

[@lindseytrainor3338]

He seems like a bad guy, I see right through those crocodile tears about her ruining his life

[@WyattRyeSway]

I love the fact that Chad seems kind of happy his mom is in prison.

[@jeremysmith9694]

Yeah what a happy story. Six kids without their parents.

[@BreakfastML]

@@jeremysmith9694you mean 6 kids without their abusers.

[@jeremysmith9694]

@@BreakfastML sure. Abusers or not, still their parents.

[@WyattRyeSway]

@@jeremysmith9694 ……maybe no mom is better than the mom you had. He must think so.

[@kitoleummuelotik2411]

​@jeremysmith9694 They are not parents. They lost that title when they decided to hold their children in a concentration camp. They are abusers through and through, and those kids will be much better off.

[@CassieSings1003]

All kids deserve parents but not all parents deserve kids

[@lynnjudd9036]

I agree that parents should not be allowed to profit that way off their children. Children should be allowed to be children not a money making machine.

[@annrodriguez2891]

Truth❤

[@hestersue5563]

AMEN AND AMEN

[@mom_of_2]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@drhyshek]

Is that original?

[@billynicole7230]

Remember "Flowers in the Attic"? That's very accurate to her. Creepy.

[@Bugthehollywoodpug]

Whats really scary, is that she knew exactly how to keep the abuse hidden on video and in public, so its even more sadistic, she made sure no one could see their wounds etc, very sadistic

[@edwinaones9401]

So what is Ruby's excuse of tormenting her children BEFORE she met up with Jodi Hildebrandt?

[@---fn7lh]

The Bible

[@sarahella6474]

I’m not trying to defend ruby at all but ruby was getting "coached” by Jodie years before Connexions I remember her saying in her old old vlogs when they still had their old dog and years before they moved to thier house they moved to in like 2021 I just think it’s more to do with Jodie than we think

[@hollabackyall]

exactly

[@tianacrossman9905]

She just got the fame bug - the validation she needed from millions of strangers on a computer and it pulled her priorities sideways - I think it’s that simple

[@chrystaltemple4818]

@@---fn7lhno, not the Bible. Mormonism.

[@c-c8939]

I can't believe she filmed herself talking to her teenage son about starting dating on a public video. What a user. This is like just gross. Why should your children trust you lady? It's all about her.

[@nebelland8355]

Yes, that is so weird 😡

[@Sunshinetards]

She's filmed period talks too, like the whole conversation even after her daughter asked her not to.

[@cicinomaden]

Exactly.

[@tiamystic]

It made me physically cringe

[@barbieangel1725]

That was so cringe

[@igeorgoudi]

This case shows how personality, psychiatric and empathy assessment should be applied to people that want to study psychology, mental health, counseling . Not when they are graduating but before even entering.

[@jeffsaxton716]

She claimed her kids had demons, all the while being a detestable demon herself.

[@hannahhentai]

"i made her scrub the floor" "but she did it out of her own free will" the child sure

[@suzerick75116]

Yeah, that was an eye brow raiser when she said that....seems these children were scullery maids to everyone within Jodi and Ruby's enterprise.....

[@tyronethomas4543]

Yes, I caught that as well. All of those adults in that circle should be looked into.

[@stacieclark-benson688]

I wouldn't doubt that Ruby told her to put them to work.

[@kandygibson6778]

Agreed.

[@jeremybilbrey1133]

imagine a teen saying "Pam, could I please scrub your floors?" never freaking happened. pam was the president of this cult...she wrote the handbook of this crap

[@qthomas9166]

Ruby and Jodi acting like they're remorseful is embarrassing. They aren't sorry for harming those children, they're sorry because they were caught. Yeah those manipulative statements they made in court was to try to get people to feel sorry for them. Not buying it, they got what they deserve

[@tracischraenkler4801]

Ruby's whole speech at sentencing was all about her, thanking people like she was accepting an Oscar. Psycho demon.

[@Jenn-ie5vf]

@@tracischraenkler4801 I thought the same thing, like do you think you're accepting a grammy or something? It was embarrassing and I hope the judge/parole board didn't buy any of it

[@suzerick75116]

@@Mountainlife73 Yep, giving flirtatious smiles to the guard as she was led in and out of court. He wasn't having any of it lol

[@jcallwood25]

@@tracischraenkler4801Lmao. I thought the same thing. I was literally thinking why did they give her all this time to talk as if she’s not being sentenced to prison for a heinous crime!? I’m so sick of her. Narcissistic!!!

[@maartjegoede9330]

Exactly... They cant systematic treat their kids like trash and then saying they regret it.. People know what they're doing.

[@southbug27]

Ruby’s only concern was making sure her hair looked cute on tv & she could fool people into believing she was a victim too; blame it all on Jody. Ruby reminds me of OJ Simpson with her “With full sorrow for my family, guilty”. 🤬

[@patriciaschmitt6448]

I'm so leary about Kevin - if the oldest daughter indicates that "they had been contacting CPS for over a year?", how then did Kevin not know something was up? He lived with the Mrs and the children so how would he not know if there were sinister things going on?

[@brittbrat4977]

"Jodi doesn't love children. Jodi is like Ted Bundy" Well said Adam. You hit it on the head.

[@noexcuses5524]

Psyhologist and therapst are usually narcissist, not all. Did u noticed that certain people are drawn towards that profession?

[@probiersdoch]

@@noexcuses5524 es ist eher so, dass Menschen mit Helfersyndrom Therapeuten werden. Also eher die Kinder von Narzissten. Diese haben meist sehr viel an sich selbst gearbeitet, bevor sie sich dafür interessieren, wie man anderen helfen kann.

[@mariacorcoran9069]

That comment from him made me laugh out loud

[@OmEvul1415]

Ted Bundy? Ted Bundy was a serial killer and necrophiliac.

[@icake1017]

They didn't go to trial because there was probably WAY more evidence of things we know nothing of. Had nothing to do with not wanting to traumatize the kids. Enjoy prison ladies. I pray you're your fellow inmates find out why you are there and do what they do best. Good luck.

[@jamiewalsh8249]

Child abusers, smart move not going to trial..now she will only serve, at the most...3 years

[@meganvansipe]

AGREE

[@xavierwashington5408]

From what he heard from Adam Steed, Jodi deserves 15 years

[@homegown1234]

I don't know much about the other lady that was her biz partner, but she looks as if she came to be destructive which is not unbelievable and if Ruby was wise, she wouldn't listened to this woman but also consider her children's needs first before that horrible woman. Ruby is supposed to be matured and should know better, so I blame her stupidity in hurting her children. Shame on her.

[@McQuizzical]

Absolutely!

[@fireflyrn]

Those poor children will never completely heal 😢😢. I wish those children a happy future❤

[@Notenufftime2]

I've said this a million times. Those who portray this amazing life online for "likes" and social acceptance are the ones with serious issues behind the cameras and filters offline. This is the product you get in the end, everytime. Prayers for these children 🙏

[@HoustonRebel]

"Popular KZbinr"? I'd never even heard of her until this story broke out.

[@tashacapgoddessmelanin9760]

Me either🤷🏽‍♀️

[@deej9367]

Because you're not a nut job that watches mommy vloggers

[@Riley512]

2 million subscribers is a lot. How many other YTers do you know?

[@lennart266]

Popular could mean anything though, T series has 262 million subs most people haven't heared about it.

[@ajmalroshan.7396]

​@@lennart266I think most people knew about it from PewDiePie vs T-Series issue

[@raketensven3127]

2 Life sentences with no possibility of parole. Throw the keys away, these are 2 demons.

[@roooddd]

Right???

[@dianaveronicakambanis9690]

Isane

[@selamtewolde9112]

I agree 100%

[@MissCherryBomb69]

There's a couple more in Utah too

[@Tammissa]

The one word that explains everything to me is ….”Mormons”

[@tigerclaw88]

Yup

[@kaybeeMoAfrika]

Yyyyuuuuupppp!

[@eurekamreum5458]

Exactly what I thought when I first heard this story.

[@Asianbrat]

Always been a violent and deluded “religion.”

[@mr.brightsouls7861]

Big respect for Jessi Hilderbrant too. They’re so well spoken and seem to be extremely intelligent. Props for coming forward.

[@MissHellKitten]

As someone whos had an abusive childhood.. the girls not wanting to talk to the cops is exactly what i did as a kid, when "help" came along. I had a little sister to look out for. And despite how crappy life was at home, my only concern was not being separated from my sister. We didnt even really get along. But i wouldnt tell anyone anything, for fear of being taken away and not being there for my sister if and when she needed it.

[@MegaAsh112]

I hope you and your sis heal from the abuse🙂

[@mandymcclelland8552]

❤️❤️ hope you & your sis find healing x

[@yarenyoldas2174]

You are such a perfect sister ❤

[@sallyschmitz4817]

I hope she NEVER sees her kids again!

[@dizzymindy6024]

Same

[@purpleflowers92]

Same

[@splinterbyrd]

I hope she never sees *any* children again

[@benjaminschmidt7607]

And if she really regrets and changed?

[@tiffanymarie9750]

@benjaminschmidt7607 clinical narcissists never feel regret or remorse for their own actions. They might try to fake it, but all they ever end up feeling is sorry for themselves.

[@user-py6xv2er8u]

Ehhhh pretty sure Pam knew WTF WAS GOING ON

[@lienestalidzane]

Not everyone deserves children! Terrifying story.

[@n.b1434]

Putting her poor children on the spot. And embarrassing them in front of the world. And her small daughter not having her lunch, so she made her go hungry. Degrading and sickening. And the father should have put his foot down and protected his children! Poor excuse of a man.

[@blueseptember2174]

I don't agree with not bringing the lunch but public schools if that's what she went to would be required to give her a school lunch that day

[@mikeJohnson-ie2md]

@@blueseptember2174 They are not required to give free lunch in middle school nor high school unless parent's income fall below a certain income level. I know. I attended public schools exclusively until I went to college. I went without lunch on almost every school day for 8 consecutive years.

[@t.8936]

Surely there was more that ended her up being charged? I completely disagree with no lunch when the child forgot to make it, I wouldn't make a child that small responsible but what else?

[@n.b1434]

@t.8936 Apparently, there are quite a lot of incredibly disturbing things she did, such as tying them up with ropes and starving them, rubbing things in their wounds so they would burn for hours and not heal(?) Her son escaped and went and got help. The children were quite abused. Very, very horrific and sad. I hope these poor children have other family members who will love them dearly and care for them!!! They have a tough road ahead.

[@dR-og9vh]

I don’t know how the dad sits there nodding his head in court like he did anything to protect his kids , such a disgrace

[@joy3203]

Those are years of brainwashing.. i couldn’t really blame Kevin at all. You have to be there to understand the depth of manipulation

[@mwash52]

Yes. A year without talking, texting or FaceTiming your kids? He should not get custody.

[@marilynwillett804]

because men arent masculine any longer, they're all jimmy kimmel,

[@tauruscommunist9532]

​@@mwash52he also took part before that

[@guybartlett9587]

The sad thing is letting them out won't help them and leaving them won't help them, but 30 years will help society.

[@RecklessInspirer]

I always found family influencers to be strange.

[@jasonmb9465]

And the father didn't know any of this was going on.... Riiiight..

[@MiraculousAngelTarot]

He knew it and he condoned it, he was thinking with the wrong head.

[@hestersue5563]

AMEN AND AMEN

[@SK-rs1hu]

He belongs in prison too

[@supergirlll]

The father is just as guilty

[@doctorjames4245]

He was more worried about a laptop getting taken. I wonder what was on it huh

[@FreeSaudi]

The neighbor was crying 😢 what a kind caring person ❤

[@KathyBarnett-mv5vg]

I'm so glad that little boy went to their house, they saved lives that day.❤❤

[@jallgire72]

I'm not sure how you see that level of abuse and not become emotional about it.

[@user-xp8qt9of8t]

Yes, horrible, but in germany also happening until death😢😢😢, these poor kids have luck not to die, but eldest sister goes before many times to police, but police dont believe her and dont do anything 😢😢😢😢😢a big fault

[@mandymcclelland8552]

​@@user-xp8qt9of8t😢

[@brianstormthomass]

i think that’s the characteristic of a mother/father i obviously don’t know them but they showed more love than those kids got in a long time. disgusting people i hope they rot in prison.

[@bmichellew2010]

Ruby and Jodi are sadists. They both got a thrill out if control and abuse in the guise of "discipline". In the videos Ruby posted of her punishing her kids severely for even minor infractions and monetizing it is alarming. I think she got off on humiliating them and monetarily profiting off it. I don't think Ruby ever loved her kids. She merely saw them as profit and people to torture and control because of her sadistic nature. She even said that kids are evil and that the program and belief system that Jodi had was more important to her than her own children. I hope when she gets out that she never gets custody. I'm also hoping her kids,even as young as they are,realize the gravity of the situation and don't fall for any of her tactics to get them back. If she gets them back it's likely that she will be worse with them as an act of revenge,especially with Russell.

[@Aspin-uk8vf]

Dad should be in jail....he never did a well check on his children. His silence is damning. Dad was part of it before he moved out.

[@TV-wy1py]

The dad married Jodi and had 6 children w/ her. That should tell you enough about him.

[@davidloughlin2238]

When your social media presence is more important than your children.

[@FUK-ULEZ]

And you see it AAAAA LOT, these people are narcissists, I have always found it weird to turn your family into a brand.

[@TB-yk7bn]

Yep. If you're subjecting kids to constant filming...that should be a red flag.

[@vanessashaw3351]

How sad that the kids were terrorized into looking "happy" on the videos..what horrors they would endure if they didnt "perform" 😢

[@FUK-ULEZ]

@@vanessashaw3351 reminds me of those performing bears in chains. The Internet has done a lot of damage to people.

[@noexcuses5524]

I seen in forensic files where a mother purposely killed her child for likes on fb and sympathize.. dunno know if she ask gofundme..i forgot the details but ppl r becoming degenerate

[@annazaman9657]

If I told my husband to leave the house, work on himself and not contact the children...... he would probably kick me out

[@CT-vm4gf]

And he would end up in prison and you would have custody of any children. You’re pretty naive.

[@annazaman9657]

@@CT-vm4gf it's a joke. He probably wouldn't listen to me

[@Dhfhucudu]

@@CT-vm4gfNo one goes to prison for kicking someone out….

[@donnamcfall5758]

Right, mine would tell me to move and try working on myself and that I would not be taking the kids.!!!

[@donnamcfall5758]

Lol

[@saffyak6561]

Evil, Evil woman ! She's only blubbering because she got caught!!!

[@winkybinx]

Anyone who has abused their children should never be able to see their children again. They shouldn't have to ever be around their abusers again if they don't want that.

[@gingerbeer849]

In Pam's defense???? She tried to hide the fact that there were TWO children in her house doing slave labor. She was NOT confused about what was going on. She was complicit.

[@helenaquvang7705]

Exactly 👍

[@justmoon9798]

Doing what type of slave labor?

[@JudgeyJudgeyable]

She was confused about how to make herself look innocent

[@droopypie]

It's not wrong to put children to work - they need chores

[@bisquitngroovy]

@@droopypiethose aren’t even her kids! When’s the last time you borrowed a friend’s children to clean your house? That’s wild.

[@aselle1709]

"Ruby,Ruby, Ruby this, Ruby that." Where is their FATHER?! BOTH of parents should be responsible. Sick and tired of this nonsense. Why didn't the father protect his children?! Pathetic!

[@TV-wy1py]

Ppl expect alot from a man who married Ruby and had six kids w/ her. That alone tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is. He, himself, is not mentally well.

[@hayleyboggs9242]

Watching this story, i have just held my 3 year old daughter and kissed and hugged her

[@hayleyboggs9242]

This world is so evil 😢

[@AHD2105]

She used her kids. She's a total creep. Their privacy was lost.

[@LFNikita]

I’ll *never forget* the *phone call* that older *gentleman made* to 911 on that *poor boy.* The *tears* he *held* back: *I broke.* When the *EMS worker* began *to* cry: *I broke.* I *believe* the *entire world broke* as well. *However,* it *was* the *bruised* and *battered boy* who *hadn’t broke.* He *saved* the *day* & *started* the *healing process* for *his family,* for the *countless* other *victims,* for the *world* and I *pray,* for *himself.* I’ll *always believe him* to *be* a *hero.*

[@lexiebabie]

😭😭😭😭😭😭 you made me ball. You have a way with words, and every single one you spoke was true.

[@LFNikita]

@@lexiebabie Me?

[@Matt-hh2ye]

EMS crying is what got me teared up too. You know they see the worst and it would take a lot to lose her composure. That boy is a hero for sure

[@ghitaborst9942]

When he was asked by the gentleman what he needs the police for, he politely said its a family business matter. After everything he went through, he kept it together and saved his sisters... may Allah bless his soul and guide them them through the healing process 😔

[@Livingtheinvisiblelife]

@@LFNikitayeah, at least for me. You have an amazing way with words

[@truestar2602]

That counselor is definitely the bigger criminal..she should be in jail for a very long time...she basically did the opposite of what her profession required her to do!

[@OmEvul1415]

She's not a counselor. She's a con artist.

[@Minithee]

Hmmmmmmmm... Didn't the taking away of her eldest son's bedroom happen before the Franke's separated? Also does anyone else feel like we are missing something?

[@candykane4271]

The church involvement …?

[@jeanag3279]

The clips of Ruby before she teamed up with Jodi where she is talking about not bringing her daughter's lunch to school, making her son do push-ups, her other son not having a bedroom for seven months and making the children do chores before breakfast show that the "dark path" she blamed on Jodi during her sentencing hearing existed before she teamed up with Jodi. I sure hope the parole board isn't deceived by her lies.

[@jennifermcgoldrick6323]

The parole board is likely 75% Mormon.

[@ConcreteAngelx3]

Jodi was in their lives at that point too. But I do think Ruby was abusive before she even knew her.. not legally abusive but abusive all the same

[@amyholman354]

Two years before she forbade Eve’s teacher to give her food for a forgotten lunch, she comforted Russell when he called home to say he’d forgotten to pack his lunch-at that point basically the same age as Eve would be later. In that clip from 8Passengers, Ruby is sympathetic to his plight and promises him a great snack when he gets home. But still, she’s not making sure her kids have the nourishment they need. I remember the care my mom took in packing my lunch box even though she didn’t like to be in the kitchen. She liked communicating through my packed lunches.

[@brooke5258]

The older kids saying "finally" indicates it was going on longer, but I'm sure the time has expired for the older kids to bring charges. Unfortunately.

[@steellio5526]

💯

[@crystahw6106]

Ruby was abusive long before Jody got involved, Jody just gave her "permission" to do more and worse to her kids.

[@treed8029]

Who agrees to take care of children during a family emergency by making them scrub floors?

[@Makayla-vv9ij]

I find this absolutely disgusting! I don't know how these thoughts even get put into someone's mind. This breaks my heart, they should've been in jail for more than 30 years.

[@specialroy6087]

Really creepy how these women are both smiling ear to ear , while in the background there is this horror occuring behind the scenes....

[@brainysmurf74]

Like most women today. Hatred of men and children

[@RendaJane]

I don’t why they never say the word “torture” which is the accurate term for what these kids went through.

[@bunny.elixir]

that’s how ppl like this are. they act charismatic and charming to everyone else and behind closed doors it’s horrible

[@kellymoses8566]

Her husband should be on trial for child neglect. There is not way he wasn't aware of the abuse.

[@user-og5rj1py5n]

Yes exactly, the law overlooks the husbands. They often get a free pass because they are the bread runners, they go to work, they leave all the house chores and kids responsibilities to their wives.

[@bethyoung8646]

My sister and my Niece both worked at M&M and they LOVED their jobs and were treated very well by Morgan and Morgan. They are awesome! Both worked there for more than 6 and the other family member worked for 8 years. Wonderful firm and very professional and knowledgeable!

[@Realist411]

Children are a gift, most adults don’t deserve.

[@Cambamdog10]

Some because most regular parents are great like my mom and dad ☮️

[@russell-di8js]

Most? Excuse me!

[@dukki.2192]

Absolutely!! Our children deserve the best

[@lindahouston5635]

True!

[@zc6346]

Children are not 'gifts', they are comittments and responsibilities adults CHOSE to have.

[@January.]

Kevin chose to be out of his children's lives. NO EXCUSES. NO CUSTODY.

[@WyattRyeSway]

110%!!!!!!!!

[@AmandaPaige71]

Agreed 💯!

[@suzerick75116]

That is correct!!!! .If he was a real dad none of this would have happened. Hildebrandt wanted Ruby all to herself therefore encouraged Ruby to kick him out so she could control her and the kids. I think she was infatuated with her. Gross.

[@tessajones9393]

​@@suzerick75116 I agree. She gives me that feeling. I've known many women similar to her where they try and wedge themselves into a woman's personal life to get closer.

[@CT-vm4gf]

What do you suggest he’d done?

[@lifegenius763]

Unspeakable..delusional..sadistic.. I hope the children are getting the support they need to heal and recover 🙏

[@patszer8314]

This is just one example of why I don't trust people in general.

[@wendysgobbo8242]

It’s always been strange to me when parents share their children’s lives for all to see

[@fancyfeast4610]

I'm not sure who even watches these family channels..I got enough of that at home. It's strange to me.

[@user-cj5yk8wz2d]

​@@fancyfeast4610usually it's men that "love kids a lot".

[@fancyfeast4610]

@@user-cj5yk8wz2d true, I'd never seen it that way, just thought people who watch these things never had a life of their own. Makes it all the more disturbing 😳

[@Isabelle-ox7go]

​@@user-cj5yk8wz2dAnd women...

[@ED80s]

Im 58. I never had social media. The thought of putting my life out there for all to see just seemed so weird and pretentious almost.