Ruby Franke’s Husband Questioned By Cops After Kids Found Bound in Duct Tape

After two of Ruby Franke’s children were found bruised and covered with duct tape, her husband, Kevin Franke, was questioned by Utah police. In his interview on August 30, 2023, Kevin Franke said he trusted Jodi Hildebrandt and claimed she was a very honest and truthful person. When police told him what had happened to his children, he said “this sounds like a made up story” and it sounded like “a horror movie.”
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[@TheWritingBug-ws6yq]

Before becoming a vlogger, Ruby never had a job. Being a stay at home mom gave her a sense of importance & this is why Kevin never interfered. Because he’s a pushover.

[@suzannec8400]

@@TheWritingBug-ws6yqI think you are correct that’s why or at least it appears things got worse when E started school because she has no purpose and lost what was left of her mind.

[@kellegraff6626]

The guy seems to have very little response of any sort upon hearing the horrible news of his son's condition. He seems very passive and detached, sad.

[@vergeREVO]

He seems bewildered, and super overwhelmed, devastated.

[@vergeREVO]

When you have your hands on your head, constantly, for so long, that indicates he's self-soothing. He's overwhelmed by what happened to them.

[@BethRitterGuth]

He says he wishes he was a better husband, but never says he wishes he had been a better father :(

[@Ashnod24]

He al so asked what is happening to his wife. He never asked if his kids will be oke. Only thing he asked about them is when he gets controle over them😔

[@kittycaruso50]

​@@Ashnod24 exactly he wanted to be able to pick them up and intimidate them into taking back what they said about their mothers abuse. Its all about pleasing Ruby

[@gregg9672]

Arrogant Monster

[@irvintheliger3091]

And the first thing he asked when they came back was, what’s going to happen to my wife. Never once did he say he immediately wanted to see his children.

[@Ashnod24]

@@irvintheliger3091 you dont have to see them you only have to controle them ...

[@shanna5259]

This husband should NOT have custody of these 2 kids…….he’s just as guilty as ruby and jodi

[@codedsoul7360]

@@Trrippy_Shadesyou also shouldn’t be allowed near any children. Anim4l.

[@cragb3334]

How is he? . Hes had no contact for a year. Oh because he's a man???? Is that it?

[@Aylii1]

@@Trrippy_ShadesIf you can’t clearly see he obviously has a guilty conscious and lack of care for the wellness of his children then you are an actual fool.

[@NsS-dy2dd]

@@Trrippy_ShadesHE OBVIOUSLY IS GUILTY, DONT BE WEIRD

[@NsS-dy2dd]

⁠@@cragb3334” because he’s a man” girl you must have watched a different video

[@GoodCitizensSpeakingUp]

He never once asked if his kids were okay - but he asked about what would happen to his wife 👎

[@barbaras2669]

He probably doesn't want to raise them himself.

[@fsimonab.2068]

He is more worried about taking care of them alone

[@saracooper7904]

This guy is not a parent. He clearly is not involved in these kids lives at all. He’s a horrible parent, and he should be blamed to some degree. He’s like a robot.

[@cocowalker1690]

Was about to comment the same thing, but scrolled to see if someone beat me. So glad I’m not just being pessimistic because I HATE cases like this but yeah… I think even the police interviewing him were just waiting for him to show emotion to the state of his kids but this guy… He asks after their tormentor and double downs on loving her… I get that that’s somewhat fair, 20 years isn’t something people do nowadays but my goodness, the little emotional distress he showed in regards to the kids seemed forced and that honestly has me thinking he needs to be rocking cuffs as well…

[@TheSuperriffs]

He said he’d like to pick them up

[@melissaw5626]

If you’re not begging and crying to see your child immediately after hearing that they’ve been hurt, something is amiss.

[@michaelscott33]

He was told to pick up his kids, not what happened, genius. Some people may not react the same way as you. As a father, I think I’d rather keep my emotions in check and not crying and screaming like a 5 year old.

[@flynnlivescmd]

Bingo 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

[@thepearlswirl]

💯

[@nounouxmarley8771]

He was mind tricked AF but his children need him, let’s pray for a real life accountability for this dude..

[@noteverton]

Yep. Up to that point he seemed credible.

[@saunch09]

"What's going to happen with my wife, I love my wife." Not a word about his kids. So gross.

[@annamariavalatka636]

SMH

[@Amzlouuu]

I am infuriated with that 🤬

[@debbied9740]

Addiction to his wife. Focus dude focus on kids.

[@bereal6590]

Lots of co parents see their kids abused in many ways emotional psychological physical and s.a. and do nothing. It's why many grow up messed up by the less abusive or non abusive parent. This guy is useless! Waste of space

[@perpetualautumn6773]

It’s sick, I would be demanding to know if my kids were ok, are they gonna make it?! He’s just worried about the abuser.

[@PoppySeed47]

Kevin "we had a son that was acting out in selfish behaviours" what an odd way to talk about your son like he has passed away or something.

[@TheAmtwhite]

Sounds like the same language Ruby was using while abusing the kids.

[@bendoverjudy]

Just remember this man was going to press charges against his daughter after everything happened because she had taken a laptop from the home. He is a dirt bag just like frankie

[@sam905]

That's right!! That sais o much about him when you think of all of it in the order of events it happened. I was thinking maybe it was right after the arrest and he was just upset because he was confused but it was after he was gold what had happened. Terrible!!!😡

[@KentuckyS1960]

These people shouldn't have been allowed to have children. He is totally a clueless individual. Pathetic. smh

[@catsberry4858]

He is Franke. She is Griffith(s?) Franke.

[@luckylady6871]

Sorry! Pressed ‘dislike’ by mistake..

[@tatertotcasserolewithsalt]

Maybe that’s why he wasn’t comfortable giving the cops his address 😅. Trying to hide something. He’s complicit for sure

[@elaineburris2896]

What man agrees to walk away from his home, leaving his children and AGREEING not to have contact with them?

[@lynnb4348]

One who seeks freedom. A selfish man. He relieves his guilt by paying the bills.

[@samum5856]

A dolt.

[@georgiarasmussen8343]

A wimp. The most despised creature on the face of the planet.

[@austinscholl]

lol

[@panda.bear15]

I think no one is talking about the possibility that he may have been manipulated heavily by Ruby as well. After 22 years of that woman, she may have brainwashed him, like a cult.

[@ReebaD]

“How did you discipline your kids when you lived in the home?” Kevin: “I’m not comfortable answering that.” Tells me all I need to know.

[@levithewonderdog335]

Spot on 💯 %

[@froandcara]

EXACTLY 100%

[@WyattRyeSway]

Yup, 100%. How is he not in trouble to?

[@annamariavalatka636]

I agree 💯

[@LadyLuck13]

Indeed!

[@milff8663]

he doesn’t wanna press charges against his wife but was dying to press charges against his own daughter what a joke

[@mad7fisher]

He is. That's no man. 🐁

[@MillyMasher]

What a vulgar father 😮

[@dukeslindaj]

He’s not a father he’s a sperm donor

[@cynthiaranzolin5175]

No “are my kids ok?”. More concerned about missing his wife than if his kids are actually OK.

[@mad7fisher]

Priorities 😑

[@theloftons8297]

How could any CPS official believe this man should have custody of any of his kids is beyond me. He has no interest in caring for his children and should have been arrested as well. Those children have been victims of long-term abuse and he absolutely knew about it.

[@Karma4All-]

There are abuse survivor stories from the Church

[@ChickenSoupMusic]

Unfortunately CPS just want to close cases because solving problems is too complicated/ takes too long. None of our 3 letter agencies function well or with best interest.

[@franpedersen7123]

Yes! One of the boys mentioned that his dad was in on it,too while being questioned by the police. What about his culpability?

[@deFinancechannel]

How is this guy not being charged? Who never asks about their kids well being for over a year?

[@sugarsore]

Lack of evidence.

[@Robbie_Rotten]

This “father” should be “invited” to prison.

[@lindalucia6334]

Best comment here!!🎉

[@dobnerk]

On the other hand, he was also yet another victim of Jodie's. He repeated her phrases and obviously felt like he was the bad guy and was banished from the family. Jodie was a part of the agreement they came to for Kevin to banish himself for his bad behavior. There is no doubt that Jodie has manipulated many people in much the same way she did to him. The stories are coming out. Don't be so hard until you know the whole story. There's another guy who is blaming Jodie for ruining his life and destroying his family. Sound familiar?

[@kittydollkori]

@@dobnerkomg he is a GROWN human. Pls stop.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@kittydollkori Absolutely! I see several people making excuses for this pathetic tool's shabby behaviour. He's an adult.

[@babiegat]

THISS

[@kathleentorres2010]

He cries for his wife. Visibly shaken. But the news that his child was found with rope burns covered in duct tape, emaciated, and begging for help from the neighbor, zero reaction. I have no words.

[@MiraculousAngelTarot]

The neighbour showed concern and real human emotion, this "dad" shows none.

[@kellyewers5692]

It was worse than rope burn . The wounds were bone deep. Absolutely horrific and this pos is not innocent in this .

[@squakke]

That really freaked me out.

[@ginaverdi6101]

No reaction! He knew this was going on when they lived together! What's wrong with him! He's guilty also

[@sarahs2288]

He was most likely aware of all of it, but they don’t have enough evidence to charge him.

[@valerierodger]

Damn. I kept waiting for him to ask how his kids were. The fact that he never did tells me more about him than anything I’ve heard since this hit the news.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

This guy neglected his children and allowed his wife to abuse them and he gets to walk away like nothing happened? Why isn't he in prison?

[@nadiad9307]

À ce demander s'ils sont tous normaux dans leurs cerveaux à ces policiers et juges aux Etats Unis. Si eux ne défendent pas les enfants !!! Qui va le faire ?

[@haznation1]

I keep waiting for this guy to ask "Where are my kids? What hospital? What injuries? Where are they all? Who has them?" BUT nothing.

[@thanchanok02]

Agreed! None of them

[@mamasmurf7830]

Exactly. That says it all! He’s infuriating!

[@Auddawg90]

Me too! Really bizarre how emotionless he is and how unwilling to assist in a case that concerns his kids.

[@lalacarroll431]

Exactly! I kept waiting and kept waiting while getting more infuriated by it! Unbelievable!!!

[@bethhc]

Jodie probably told him already when she gave him a call to pick them up😩

[@chloemonroe2908]

His lack of outrage is an outrage

[@MaraChandler]

well said.

[@thepearlswirl]

no seriously..

[@whippoorwillholler740]

Yes, he's like a lukewarm dirty dish rag.

[@peacenow42]

how do all of us females even cope with life with our little but of testosterone?@@RuggedSource

[@differenttakethanmost]

@@RuggedSourcelack of testosterone, from her having his balls in her pocket: she “invited” him to leave the house but “make sure to keep paying alllll the bills”.

[@jamiemoore9275]

Absolutely NO care, worry, anxiety, anger, sadness, concern for his children!!! I don't need to hear anymore.

[@thesehandsart]

Something WAAAAAYYYY off with Dad, he needed way too much leading in response to the children's condition. NEVER asked how the kiddos were. These poor poor children!

[@WhitneyMerten-hb3tc]

He was perfectly fine abandoning those kids, there is no way he deserves custody now.

[@ZoeBay-vn1hc]

He sounds brain washed or she is blackmailing him with his "addiction."

[@shannonsummar5156]

@@ZoeBay-vn1hc she messed w his head too!

[@thisisme9136]

This guy was so manipulated and abused by this cult... this happened to so many men in this cult... they were alienated, coerced and brainwashed... it's disgusting what Jodi did to so many families.

[@yennyzepol1983]

He was told that he was poisoning the family because he looked at por n. Then he believed it! Do you know how many couples would get divorced if what he believes about por n to be true. He sounds like a cult follower brain washed by his cult leaders. His wife wanted a verbal separation, not a legal one because then there would be consequences and court custody orders She wouldn’t have any control of. It’s just interesting that it’s after his wife kicks him out that the sadistic abuse occurs. Meaning that he wouldn’t have let it happen had he been living in the house with them. So she needed him to leave in order to be the monster she really is.

[@TheLoneCamper]

He has every right to them, but he clearly dosen't want them.

[@brandih8972]

That cop is begging that father to show even a little bit of concern for his own children

[@yeesh9215]

None to be had.

[@bereal6590]

The faux sniffling is very surreal, feels performative

[@jean55547]

he knows he's being recorded, trying to make himself cry 😂

[@tanyachambers5055]

@@jean55547that’s what I was thinking

[@tammyminor4272]

💯

[@LR1115]

He should be charged as well. Living in the same household, and not doing anything is beyond terrifying.

[@pam9231]

Where is his concern about his starving injured son? He kept talking about how much he loved his wife but never asked if his son was going to be okay. So sad these two narcissistic parents had six children. Those children deserve better.

[@xoxolovechristielynn]

Don’t let this POS fool anyone! I’ve been SCREAMING about this family for like 6 or 7 years and Kevin is not innocent. Yes, the abuse obviously got worse once Ruby got in with Jodi, but make no mistake… Both Ruby AND Kevin used starvation as “punishment” for many years and even posted it to KZbin. He was there when they were hungry, he was there when beds were taken from them for months, he was there when Chad was sent to a labor camp for “rebellious kids”. He echoed the same words about the children living “in distortion”, and needing to save their souls from “evil”. He needs to be charged too! He’s showing his true colors even since the arrests by threatening legal action against his own children! I hope and pray the investigation is still ongoing and he will be arrested soon. I also hope they’re investigating Ruby’s siblings and parents as well because her sisters used to join her in “parenting” videos on Facebook, saying the same damn things. Abhorrent people, all of them.

[@annamariavalatka636]

Me too!

[@marcust123]

He needs to be jailed the scumbag

[@Zoehh473]

Agree

[@lisak5804]

💯

[@honeybunch5765]

I haven't watch that much of them but the few episodes I saw it was very clear how weird and off they were as parents. I started watching them shortly before they sent Chad off to that torture camp. I did spot watching through their channel and was shocked about the mother's behaviour. It was obvious the kids were 90% of the time uncomfortable. The advertisements they had to participate in like poor Russel had to promote pull up diapers pretending he still wets his bed. The teen girls had to share their experiences of their first periods to promote sanitary wear. They were forced to play instruments. She would force them to perform infront of others. You could see they hated it and they all gave up their lessons because of Ruby. I saw all that unfold in the short time I watched them and that was enough to put me off and feel sorry for her children. I was sadden but not surprised when all this unfolded. Her sister Bonnie is just as strange and money hungry. Can't stand watching or listening to her. All these Mormon vloggers are weird. I refuse to watch family vloggers where children are involved.

[@katcihealer]

the detective was seemingly horrified by this man's lack of caring for his children.

[@VoklstWestie]

As are we all....

[@abdallaha92]

He's not a man.

[@brittanysue7465]

Not sure if he new how serious the situation was because once again the police officers didn't call him a neighbor called him to let him know what was going on so I don't think he knew the whole story but I believe the wife controls him

[@lorencast]

Absolutely! His a pu**y not a real carrying Father. He doesn’t deserve to be a Father. And he said he respect jodi oh man!! There you go

[@milkshakepuppy5413]

Why? Why hadn’t he seen his children in a year?

[@Beachgrl1717]

I pray 🙏🙏 that those precious children do not get put in this mans custody.

[@sofiagomes3844]

What kind of father wants his kids to be arrested ???

[@LadyJpraise2024unbound]

Talk about absentee father. The ultimate betrayal is a parent lying silent while Abuse takes place

[@mouseandryforever6848]

Couldn't agree with you more. He is acting like a sperm donor. Nothing more. Kids aren't safe around him.

[@mad7fisher]

How could you not physically need to see your children? I don't understand that - for a year ?! he just doesn't give a crap, he doesn't care. That's the bottom line

[@daisiesorchidsholly]

I wish he'd stayed an absentee father, but he's too messed up to realize that he cannot be trusted with the children. He's done enough damage.

[@charlotte_stevens]

​@@mad7fisherwell said!!!

[@richardwendt9266]

I genuinely think he was just brainwashed.

[@jenfoster128]

'She invited me to leave the home' the most Mormon way of saying get out ever.

[@algomaone121]

I know. No one ever gets invited to be kicked out.

[@susaneweinberg4411]

Yes, INVITED. There are so many buzz words that Mormons use that on their face are inappropriate

[@aClownBaby-]

They learn to make everything sound positive, it’s so creepy

[@SimonkaShow]

That sentence sounded so strange to me but I had no idea it's a Mormon thing

[@jc2385]

He comes to get the kids. He’s worried about the kids. Really? He hasn’t bothered to call them or see them in a year! Makes no sense and no one in their right mind would turn kids over to him. He’s a stranger to those poor kids.

[@reen7050]

Him not answering the question: How do you discipline your children? says a lot

[@agatakozowska8320]

He is guilty af.

[@featherjean6291]

He wasn't in charge of anything in that household.

[@anitavarley1975]

Agreed

[@susanstone3588]

Even based on the fact he admitted to being addicted to pornography let alone showing no concern for his children's current situation this man should NEVER have custody of his children.

[@fayeb.5855]

Exactly

[@trinity5283]

He’s aware, she didn’t start behaving that way over night.

[@sandraabrahamsson6677]

💯 and he sees nothing wrong with her behavior

[@Mother_of_zebras]

Go listen the phone called from jail between the two. Made me sick how he had nothing to say except to agree with her. Jodi thinks she is the next coming, and that the Bible backs her.

[@rosemariewalsh1246]

I do not understand why this poor excuse for a father is not being prosecuted.

[@teresathayn5170]

Sherri, their eldest daughter, accused them of over a decade of abuse!! Listen to the children! ❤

[@SalemTheScorpio]

@@teresathayn5170 I don’t understand why they aren’t listening to the kids. Sherri isn’t a child, nor is the oldest boy. Giving the children back to this loser is condemning them to more abuse.

[@curiositykilledkat1]

Because LDS I imagine

[@justkiddin84]

Because he is a holy man who had all these kids in the LDS. Utah is basically a theocracy, run by the LDS cult. That is why.

[@TheBLGL]

Because the Mormons probably don't think the men should be blamed for anything, I would assume.

[@pamscarr8696]

Those children should NOT be with their father any more than they should be with the mother or her "friend".

[@GayAllTheWay2024]

Kevin seems like a radical believer in Jody and Ruby's vision even though he didn't do the abusing of the kids. Officer: "No human being should be treated like that." Kevin: "Yeah, okay". Kevin should lose custody as well.

[@brookehoskins]

What a tool. He never even asks about his children's conditions.

[@m.w.3699]

Yea he must have already known. There’s no way he wouldn’t have asked ‘is he ok?’

[@teresathayn5170]

Ruby called him! "Come get the kids!". That's all we know.

[@Psychiatricnerd]

Honestly I think she abused him (emotionally) as well.

[@ceterisparibus8966]

I guess, but do you consider that he abused her?@@Psychiatricnerd

[@merleginsburg388]

@@Psychiatricnerd i'm sure you're right.

[@willieverusethis]

He should be charged with neglect. He didn't even visit with the two older children after they left the house. What a weak and ineffective human being.

[@ghents565]

You dont get it. He is brainwashed. He is very distraught. He did what the church told him to do. To try and get to see his kids. Ppl need to wake up and not let the church into your life this deep. I am not sticking up for him. He will need help and to be deprogrammed.

[@laurieg673]

His son lived with him.

[@teresathayn5170]

​@@ghents565 Nope, I ain't buying it! He was party to all of Ruby's abuse of the kids! She'd make them go hungry, she hated cooking, duh. They were made to scrub the tiles in the bathroom on their hands and knees!! Kevin's all in, ignoring abuse and making millions!!

[@eiforget]

He also questioned why his eldest daughter wasn’t being arrested for “burglarizing” the family home when she went in to gather items like journals and such, likely evidence that she was determined to preserve before her dad or mother could destroy it, and he sees that as an affront and malicious activity. His own daughter and he wants her arrested. He’s a creep, just like his wife and Jodi.

[@kellywilliams5088]

​​@@ghents565Seriously? He got out of there. He was free! He had enough time to really think about what he was doing. He knew how Jodi was. He never once told Ruby to back off when it came to her crazy punishments. I'm sorry, but he is complicit.

[@kimjorg]

The way he only thinks about Ruby and not those precious children. Heartbreaking

[@tonyfauci9963]

When he slammed the table yelling how he works every day, likely says a lot about his psyche

[@ellenhenderson6865]

Performative.

[@Jack-px8lf]

38:51 reminds me of my abusive dad. 'i work every day' 👏 👏 yay you're a gainfully employed adult. 🏅 and he looks at a picture of his family every day 🖼️👏

[@lauramunoz8497]

His wife almost killed his children and he is not "comfortable" answering questions? Wow.

[@deeandrew38]

He’s also not comfortable asking if his son is going to be ok.

[@MathewWoodard]

He doesn’t want to implicate himself, simple as. He knew what was happening, maybe not every detail, but he was aware. This guy is culpable.

[@Nikki_alterego]

Exactly!!!

[@deeandrew38]

@@MathewWoodard yeah… so why is he not being charged at all? This is neglect at best on his watch.

[@amandataylor1604]

My understanding is that he was told to pick up his kids....so at this point he doesn't know anything

[@GwenPidgeon]

If a police officer informed me my husband had dehydrated, starved to the point of emaciation, put duct tape around the wrist and ankles of my children over existing wounds made by ropes, the last thing I would be saying or declaring is I love my husband. That is absolutely the last thing I would be saying.

[@Ashley__Rose]

I would say ok take me to my husband, I need to “talk” to him. Give me just 5 mins alone with him, officer. 👿

[@judithwilber2540]

he said whats emaciated....but knew the word nebulous lol strange

[@cynthiagimbel6590]

Agree! His sadness seems misplaced. His wife has sole physical custody for a year, he has no contact w kids, just finds out 2 were horribly abused during that time and his concern is all about Ruby and himself: "I just want my family back..." Very odd. I think most ppl would b focused on the children's health and verbalizing passionate confusion over how their spouse could let that happen.

[@WeeScot]

By all accounts it was part of Jodies MO she would run marriage counseling courses where she would encourage the partners to break up and blame it all on the men and their inner demons. He was told he was the problem and that's why he wasn't to see his wife or kids.

[@alexandraa3498]

I wouldn’t even be thinking about my husband, I’d have to be held down by 10 people to keep me from seeing my kids.

[@ellencercone9299]

They should never get out of jail The way Ruby talks she still thinks the kids are evil So scary 😱

[@GaiaNaVi]

He doesn’t ask about the physical condition of his kids when the police give him an opportunity. I'm absolutely horrified. Those poor children, i hope he doesn't get custody.

[@snowwhite2524]

Kevin found out that his wife tortured and starved their children and he's more worried about Ruby than his children. Wtaf?!

[@DeathOfARockStar]

He knew all along she did that. Because he did it as well, he used starvation as a form of punishment. Watch their videos.

[@1972dsrai]

Thats because they didn’t tell him anything he didn’t already know. He’s equally guilty and should have been charged with them.

[@nothingelse1520]

He's ab absentee father. People throught Ruby was a single mom

[@arykaarmitage9178]

I have a feeling she has some kind of info about his behavior around the kids and this is keeping him quiet.

[@yolly2292]

This guy’s acting is as bad as his wife’s

[@marilouo4321]

He was a college professor and he did not know what emaciated meant? He had to ask for a definition. Unbelievable.

[@77cns]

I noticed this too. More than once, he asked the police what a certain word means.... then later he says he's smart. ha!

[@cynthiawilson5066]

Really

[@soude85]

You think that’s odd? Of course he knows what the word means but he doesn’t understand why this word was used in connection with his children. (Like “Are they just skinny or what exactly”)

[@chevyrell]

But yet used “nebulous” in general conversation🙄

[@MaurLiz]

I also thought it was odd that he asked what "emaciated" meant...IMO.

[@preciousgankila1547]

Please don't give the man these kids

[@barb782]

He belongs in prison for turning a blind eye. An accomplice in my opinion

[@arinaeliott5329]

Asks about his crazy wife but not his traumatized kids. He’s just as guilty

[@jenniferlee1410]

Right? Says he's separated, doesn't know what they're doing for an extended period of time but is more concerned about her than the children. Sick.

[@pennyc11]

So happy they kept kids away from him. All he cares about is getting laid.

[@fjb3544]

On what grounds? What do you know about this man? He obviously has issues. But that does not make him a child abuser.

[@hoppersdoppers]

First thing i would've said is how are my kids. Not about his wife

[@melissas4874]

He was quite in denial and being gaslit by his wife and this other woman into thinking he was a horrible person. Also, he does ask about his kids, but when they tell him what happens he doesn't believe it and says it sound like something made up. He's been told to not trust himself or his own eyes by those 2 women for years and they are always right. I guess when women are gaslit and emotionally abused we are supposed to believe it, but not men huh?

[@asbisi]

It is documented: He loved humiliating his kids, laughed at them when they fell, laughed when their mother punished them. He is as sick as the two in jail.

[@whoseturnisit9733]

If the law will not reprimand him for his neglect and abuse while he live with them, here is hoping the kids sue him for all the 8 passengers money. After all they were paraded and used for their monetary benefit.

[@Fonoyb]

It saddened and angered me when the "Father" asked about how his wife was BEFORE he asked about his Children!

[@Oliver-jg8og]

"I don't know anything about what has been going on in that house". He just busted himself.

[@lachexamour]

How is he a college professor and he doesn’t know what ‘emaciated’ means? On so many levels, what a complete fool!

[@iloveschicken6527]

Facts!

[@stephaniesmith1086]

Could be in a state of shock that he isn't processing normal things. Not to defend him, but sometimes under stress people don't really comprehend. Could also be he doesn't understand how his kid could be in that condition, I mean he hadn't seen them in a year and now told this, he doesn't know how bad it is. He is a horrible father

[@genericamerican7574]

Brigham Young University… need I say more? I would have been shocked if he didn’t act like this. They all speak with the same affect.

[@jenscheibner792]

Doesn't care??

[@stephaniesmith1086]

@@genericamerican7574 the church is also to blame, they promoted Jody, loved her, and it made others believe her and her methods. That church and all its affiliations are to blame

[@sofiamaria194]

“What’s going to happen to my wife” WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS. WHAT.

[@amym5114]

FACTS!!

[@cuestarey5565]

Kevin, knew exactly what was going to happen to Ruby this time. The Family had been under scrutiny for Child Abuse allegations by DCF for years, now she was caught red handed, real evidence she tortured her children.😢

[@camilegend]

there is something seriously wrong with this father. he is showing no emotions when he hears about his children. he is either aware of what was happening or just a narc. he was ok to not see the children because he needed time for himself? 😭

[@lifesgood3470]

Hes a POS absentee father . He deserves a negligence charge not checking on his kids!! All 3 deserve prison justice. These kids had NO ONE.

[@dr.catdoga384]

This mf need locked up too. If he had any interest in his own children, he knew what was going on.

[@kazshaw3945]

100% True !😠

[@kazshaw3945]

@@virtuserable Ruby was doing this long before she met Jodi ,hence Kevin would have known and went along with it !

[@shayshaymann113]

@@virtuserableKevin and Ruby were abusing those children wayyy before Jodi came around

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

I think that guy did fight for his kids though@@virtuserable

[@LadyLuck13]

​@@virtuserablethe proof is in the videos he posted with Ruby on their channel. Do some research

[@shellibabick]

I don’t believe this man is innocent of not knowing that his wife was cruel to their children while they were together. He knew exactly what she was doing. And he did nothing to stop her. He may not have been as cruel and evil as Ruby, but he knew what she was doing and let her do it anyway. Then he runs away like a coward for a year or so abandoning his children and leaving them with his wicked wife. He’s guilty.

[@midnitdragoon]

What evidence do you have of his alleged involvement or knowledge in this horrendous situation? 🍿🍿🍿

[@peppercat8718]

My thoughts exactly 👌🏼

[@Astral_Clover]

Nope… he put his tail between his legs and listened to these women and moved out!

[@grapevinez6026]

​their youtube videos documenting their abuse of the children, including denying them food @@midnitdragoon

[@shellibabick]

@@Astral_Cloverexactly m. He’s a coward and abandoned his own children. He’s guilty.

[@marqann]

NEVER give him back those kids... NEVER! Ther's something so wrong with him

[@alysiaricker747]

Hes brain washed too.

[@commiehunter733]

He was brainwashed by jody and ruby

[@misscorvette02]

That man is off, way off. He agrees to avoid all contact with his 6 kids? And then refuses to reveal who told him to pick up his kids from the police and how he disciplined the kids. He’s not innocent.

[@Time_Is_Left]

A child acted out in SELFISH behavior?!? Are you serious

[@jenscheibner792]

Yeah, he/she was probably hungry...

[@kjh6903]

@@jenscheibner792right !! He needs to be in jail too . The abuse was going on long before he moved out .

[@domodomo4032]

I have a 16 year old that acts out in that exact way

[@Time_Is_Left]

@@domodomo4032 Children are born selfish, that’s literally the only survival mechanism they have If your child is selfish, they either haven’t developed to that point yet, or they weren’t taught that maturity.

[@Jay-js5ik]

@@Time_Is_Left Exactly. My son is naturally very generous and is constantly thinking of others. Yet he still has some selfish tendencies. He’s 8. It’s just how they are. Parents need to teach kids how to be empathetic and giving.

[@ThatsCrazyRight]

A dad who didn't check in on his kids. Disgusting.

[@FINfinFINfinFINfin]

That's a huge percentage of all fathers. Mine included.

[@BrendaD72]

Not defending him at all, but he admitted he had a p*rn addiction. She probably used that as leverage against him….like they probably threatened to out him.

[@alondra_missi]

@@FINfinFINfinFINfinTrue and same. It's a miracle some of us turned out okay being raised by stressed out and overworked single mothers.

[@greenbananas7766]

@@FINfinFINfinFINfin In defense of many "fathers". There are too many women who use innocent children for pawns & it makes me ill. Courts have no problem letting the "father" be a bank book & won't do much for the ones that want to be in their children's lives. Then sadly, when the children grow up, they have heard nothing but garbage about father & end up having no relationship with either parent. Been there too many times. My soul hurts for you all. I had an awesome Pop!

[@OPERATINGATOT8]

My nepthew lives with me and in 15 years my brothers never asked how he is... he showed up a month ago for the furst time in 10 years with 200. I was like thanks I just spent 400 on school uniform. Some fathers are an absolute was of space. My dad worked 3 jobs didnt have much but one thing I remember is he was always there for us at the start and end of every finish line. Kids remember this I absolutely have the upmost respect for those parents grandparents care givers doing it alone its hard work. Remember your children will always remember who showed up and who didnt. This father did not show up. I 🙏 thoses children find peace

[@tania_0rt3ga]

Him saying he doesn’t know how Ruby disciplines or deals with behaviors with the kids is one of his biggest lies.

[@CrystalGal]

These poor kids had no one to protect them. Boy does he protect his wife. I don’t think either one of them know what “acting out” is

[@madisonandthespirits]

Abandoned 6 kids with a monster…no contact for a year…wow!

[@paulinedye5479]

Crazy isn't it. He is a dirtbag, also... Sounds like Ruby made her choice to leave him for the crazy therapist. Then she continued to abuse them. All 3 involved need to go to jail for abuse...

[@inkerikavantera]

when you're with a narc that's really the only choice.

[@Awake-Free-CT]

​​@@inkerikavanteraYou're only choice is to leave your kids with her. No. I know what I'm talking about as I've been with a narcissist, and I would have removed him from this earthly plane before leaving my kids with the creature.

[@CocoKmimi]

He cries for his grief over the loss of his family. He cries over his love for Ruby. He does not cry over the abuse his children experienced

[@differenttakethanmost]

He’s pretty sure she was right, he trusts her.

[@shaft5]

Not a single question about the kids. Thats pretty damning evidence. For a long time, I wondered why CPS did not immediately release the kids into his custody. Now I know why, and I agree with their initial assessment of this guy. Dude is a real POS.

[@katiehenry7]

Are the kids all with the dad right now?

[@jedimindtrick-pi8xe]

I don't think so.

[@nursebev2249]

Because he was a part of it before he was kicked out. He knew how his kids were treated.

[@justinsearle4461]

As someone that lives near this community, I'm disconcerted on how poorly these questions are being asked by law enforcement.

[@lololounge8281]

What do you mean?

[@RoxxyFly]

Ik what you mean, its very bouncy for lack of a better word. Like the questions are all over the place.

[@serenityquesnelle3860]

It’s because they didn’t want him to stop talking or ask for his lawyer.

[@ellenhenderson6865]

They have to ask repetition questions and bounce around to catch lies.

[@tamaraelsberry6630]

I know.. I was thinking the SAME THING! It's almost embarrassing.

[@user-cz5zv3hm4p]

How could a father never reach out to his kids?? Im sorry he knows more than he is sharing?

[@laurenc2976]

He really failed his kids and the fact that his primary concern is still his wife is utterly bizarre and yet another failing to his abused and mistreated children.

[@nw22122]

Him still not having custody back of any of his kids tells us everything we need to know. Clearly he’s unfit.

[@the.seagull.35]

I won't speak on him, but in general this is not true at all. The court system is absolutely brutal to fathers... and mothers know it. The court is an instrument of punishment and control over fathers in a vindictive mothers hand.

[@andreamoore367]

Who has them ? This whole family is toxic. Her sisters are the same as her. Those poor kids

[@pcbrightlights]

He can’t be trusted AND doubtless the children don’t trust him because he deserted them for more than a year!!!

[@ZELENKAPB]

Absolutely I totally agree

[@alisalavine1052]

Uh, yeah, no. Just because YOU can't think of other reasons why he may not have custody of kids, doesn't mean there aren't any. Let's try logic for a moment. He is also a victim. He's scared. He's confused. He's been gaslit since Jodi came into his family's lives. He's broken and fragile and not able to take his kids until he's stable. My guess is that he's going through a lengthy process set forth by the Court to heal and relearn how to be a parent. Jodi had just as much a hold on him as she did Ruby. Jodi is a narcissist, a sadist, and malignant. She is a cult leader. This family, like others that were directed towards Jodi's practice, has to be deprogrammed then reprogrammed. Thanks, LDS church. Great job. Add it to a very long list of lives you've destroyed. This is what happens when we let a faith community tell us how to live. We stop thinking critically. We don't teach our kids to think critically. Like lambs to a slaughter...

[@paulapalacz6477]

What an actor he is , as a parent if I’m finding this out , I’m standing , I’m crying , I’m seating , I’m begging to see my kid. I would be saying that I feel responsible because I did not protected my kids but he worry about his wife instead of the kids , they are definitely a team , even though he wasn’t present there at the time , he knows what going on and in his f head he thinks that if he would treat her better she wouldn’t do as much to the kids. I hope the kids will not go back to this guy !!!!

[@carolmccullough-kuchar4782]

He's guilty of allowing this torture to be continued. He knew very well what was going on with his children. He let them do whatever they wanted to do to his children. What a father he is...father's are supposed to be protecters. Where are these children?

[@thomash.larsen6932]

This guy participated in the abuse together with Ruby, and afterwards abandoned those kids for a whole year 😳 Lock him up.!

[@amyh7554]

Yeppppp!!

[@kasie680]

Know them personally do you?

[@amyh7554]

@@kasie680 you would be surprised. Actually yes

[@basicallyno1722]

@kasie people know them from all of the videos they recorded of themselves abusing the children and bragging about it. We don’t need to know what was in their heart - we saw the abusive actions prior to them getting fueled by Jodi Hildebrandt.

[@amyh7554]

@@basicallyno1722 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@hollyantoun63]

When he is told what condition his son is in ... he never even asks about his daughter.

[@Jiorgiapeach]

He doesn’t even know where his kids are. Like he didn’t even know if they were all in the same house. She totally cut him off. She caught him watching pr0n, kicked him out of the house and cut off all communication. Just like with the children, ruby convinced ppl that the abuse was their own fault. He thought he didn’t have the right to even know his children’s whereabouts because of his evil decisions.

[@lornadryden5650]

But to be fair he didn’t know where any of the kids are and he’s probably still trying to honor Ruby by no being involved with the kids, he’s brainwashed

[@cynthiawilson5066]

Disgusting

[@soude85]

He actually did, it’s when the audio was cut off,

[@elinaq750]

What time stamp?

[@VK.x]

Absolutely messed up 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@ManuelGarcia-dp4iz]

This man knows more than what his saying.

[@Monkeyshine911]

"I've had ZERO communication about my kids in the last year." "You're taking my kids away from me?!" 😂😂😂

[@ana-gd6nq]

Kevin: "Chad was acting in a selfish behavior" Also him: Abandoning his kids

[@FamLawJ.D.]

🎯

[@jenniferbyork690]

He learned from his parents!

[@hsk2909]

Also Kevin / NEVER saying nuff is enough hun...ok..go get a boxing ball.

[@shayna8324]

his selfish act was playing a prank on his little brother by waking him up in the middle of the night and saying he was late...for that he slept on a beanbag for months and went to wilderness

[@conscientiousobserver8772]

@@shayna8324I think it was more like a trip to Disney, made the kid pack and everything.

[@mbburke3780]

Not immediately "OMG IS HE OK ??I NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL !!" He should NEVER get those kids .😡😡😡😡💔💔🙏🙏

[@patty8894]

He failed as a father !! He didn't demand to see his children !! He's just as bad as she is.

[@whenimonmymoon6822]

Also, this male cop is so clearly reigning in some serious rage. I appreciate the little bit he's letting shine through.

[@MoreTeaPorFavor]

His ability to throw contained rage shade is remarkable. *chef’s kiss*

[@tinawhite8835]

Early in the interview, this Investigator tried to establish a rapport with this man by stating how it must hurt his heart to be separated from his children for a year, and this guy looked at him like... 'Why would it hurt my heart?'. I think the Investigator decided then, no more Mr Nice Guy.

[@LauPalomas]

He's guilty af too. Why he's not behind bars is something I can't comprehend.

[@raeannespears]

I feel like his time is coming.

[@EpsteinsRope]

Because he's literally not guilty otherwise he would be... derp

[@ballinv2452]

because hes not guilty and you are not the law. you are protected by the law ad the family court system. you are the problem here. You are the ones who take children from the fathers. one 100 years there has not been one man who has successfully been able to get full custody of his kids in a divorce or separation matter.

[@CarlaKay23]

The pos just admitted to not seeing his children for over a year yet he has seen his wife. Why hasn’t he got an attorney at the time of this video fighting for his rights to see his children? The pos speaks for itself here… also men rarely get full custody because men tend to be the majority when it comes to being selfish self centered pos who abuse and abandon. Dont like that fact?change it.

[@Mushroom_moon_stirfry]

Because evidence

[@mlmj1994]

Just because he and Ruby separated, wasn’t an excuse for him to not see his children on a weekly basis. He could’ve tried harder IMO…

[@tonidavis1654]

My question….why is he still a free man????!!

[@commiehunter733]

Because jody and ruby were doing the abusing. Jody convinced ruby to kick Chad out the house over a year ago and the he had little to no contact with his kids .... jody saw Chad as a "person of distortion." Jody and ruby are crazy ppl

[@unsocialsocialbutterfly294]

“I’m not comfortable giving my address right now“ I’m not comfortable with this and that 🙄 Bro!! Your children were just found bound, beaten and starved! Wtf is wrong with you?! Kevin was right next to Ruby for years watching all her abuse! He belongs in jail right next to his wife!

[@kittycaruso50]

Ok but the cops just told him to answer what he wanted and say he wasn't comfortable answering anything he wasn't comfortable asking. Why the cop set things up like that, idk, maybe just to keep him from sropping the interview all together. But it allowed him to dodge any tough questions

[@VirginiaGeorge]

He didn’t know at that point. ETA Kevin did not know the state in which his children were found before this interview.

[@Famr4evr]

The children were uncomfortable their whole lives!! Dude! Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and the state your children are/were in

[@rhondamoore1682]

HE KNEW!!! 😡

[@gtaylor6937]

What a weak sister this guy is! I can't even get over how pathetic an excuse he is for a father. After the condition of his son has been described to him, he can't figure out how he should feel. Uugghhhhh!

[@jenfehr1]

Even after hearing the condition his son was found in.. not ONCE did he ask if that little boy was okay. My heart breaks for those children.

[@1WFran]

Exactly

[@Kloetenhenne]

I once heard a Mormon man say that people who are married are soulmates and that even the relationship with their children is below that bond. No wonder he doesn't ask about the children and tells them how he looooves his wife..

[@suzannec8400]

As an Aunt to a Nephew who is my everything I saw that to.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

"Would I condone that behaviour. Based on that description, no, but then I don't know the details". WTF!!! Where's the concern, the immense worry for his children, the pain of knowing your child has been in pain, the shock, the anger at their primary caregiver for allowing that to happen?

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@Kloetenhenne Even if his concern for his children is less than his wife - which I don't get because love is love and for me at least is immeasurable for those closest to me - where is his basic humanity an empathy when hearing about the state his desperate son was in.

[@islandgirl9166]

He’s guilty too Lock him up!

[@diyartsandhomewithluna]

He’s just as guilty, there’s too many videos of her thinking it’s ok withholding food and using that as a punishment and he was fine with that. Him standing by is just as bad.

[@watsonspuzzle]

He angers me so much. It was Ruby who told him to pick up the kids, but he refused to tell police it was her. He hears about the near deaths of his 2 young children, and all he cares about is if Ruby is going to be in trouble and how much he loves her. No wonder child protection services wouldn't give him his kids back. I bet they still haven't. He TOTALLY betrayed those kids. He's so weak and pathetic. He didn't even ask about the kids after he found out what happened to them. It's all about his wife and his shattered dreams. Very sad.

[@emmakathryn8118]

I hope he doesn’t get the kids. They need a loving home. 😢 he’s just as nuts as Ruby.

[@Getting_real]

complicit . Needs to be arrested along with his wife.

[@alana8792]

Why in the WORLD is he not being held accountable? This is absolutely insane. He needs to be locked up as well.

[@Angelstar7774]

So he VOLUNTARILY abandoned his children for over a year

[@april4848]

Sick

[@xoxzarinaxox]

I think that he is also a victim of cult programming. I'm not saying he failed the kids, but he was brainwashed, to a degree

[@allietaylir]

ruby didnt allow him to see the kids i’m pretty sure and that’s also why he didn’t know about any of what had happened

[@pamelalansbury94]

He needed the break you guys, he needed time and space to be a better person. /extreme sarcasm/

[@shelhuff1043]

Ran off to party & porno

[@Sunshine-fx9op]

He was there when they denied Christmas for the young ones. Supposedly for not being grateful. He's a horrible father.

[@carlynhelaine]

And when the oldest son was sleeping on a bean bag chair. And when the youngest girl forgot her lunch at home and ruby refused to bring it to her bc it was HER responsibility

[@joannamillan8882]

That's sad 😔

[@ellenhenderson6865]

@@carlynhelaineomg! Was this stuff in her videos?! How did that go on for so long? She was profiting on yt on their suffering, sounds like. Insane.

[@codycodes2]

If this father is telling the truth: he doesn't live with his 6 children. He hasn't seen them in about 2 years and he never asks about how they are doing. At the very least, he is a terrible father even if he didn't abuse them himself. If he lived with them and cared about them they wouldn't be in that situation. He's just as guilty in my opinion.

[@featherjean6291]

He was told not to visit. He was told to get the f out and stay away while he fixed himself because she was the one running the show.

[@olgamattisson1996]

He hasn’t seen his small children in a year? That is insane. I wonder where are those kids now.

[@agatakozowska8320]

And he participate in his wife and her friend business...

[@williammorshead2614]

“I’m not comfortable giving my address”! The easiest thing for anyone to find out including the police. And he withholds that. This guy is a real gem.

[@amberday6108]

His lack of outrage and emotion when the cops tell him his child was duct taped, is proof he abused them too😢 disgusting!!!!

[@redlocculturetalk370]

right i would have been crying so hard with anger saying my child is innocent and sweet and never felt pain. i’d be doing and saying everything

[@nina2222]

This

[@n.sarahsteele2619]

To me he just looks completely chocked, and in denial of what he'd just heard

[@mr.skittletime9304]

Well everybody reacts differently

[@RiverSage-fg5gc]

How could he be so distant from the kids? How could he not know? He appeared clueless.