Rucksack Packing

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[@hamster3171]

a moment of silence for all the recruits falling asleep during this video

[@b0mazor]

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[@Paxientas]

STAND UP. SIT DOWN.

[@paulshewchuk3016]

that 2 minutes of dead air at the beginning would murder me in a classroom environment.

[@paulshewchuk3016]

ahahaa holy shit i think there might be 1 1/2 minutes of commentating over a 22 minute video. the fuck are we doing canada?!?! put some metallica in there or something

[@larrycaine6673]

In my day it just shove it in that bag and move it!

[@needle444]

"These items should all be rolled rightly" *Performs the loosest roll I've ever seen*

[@floydvaughn836]

Yeah, and briefs, t shirt and socks should be rolled together. Except for 1 pair of socks in an outer pocket. Is this the 82 pattern? Like the silent keepers on the outer pockets.

[@semperfi-1918]

That is not a spincter tight roll.... well ok maybe by todays standards...

[@GIITW.5OKC]

thinks to himself "my name was drawn out of a hat for this bullshit, I'll just make it look like I kinda give a damn to please the superiors."

[@OldNavajoTricks]

A perfect example of Do as I say, not as I do, your reward for noting that lesson earns you tea and biscuits whilst the rest of your section performs gravity checks...

[@davidoftheforest]

To anyone who carried this thing: you have my respect. I used my dad's old pattern 82 rucksack when I first got into ruck marching. I loaded it with steel weights, 70 pounds. This ruck has no sternum strap, the waist belt is just unpadded webbing and when you tighten the shoulder straps the bare straps will dig into you under the arms. I did 10km during the winter with 70lbs twice a week and yea, I salute you if you carried this in the army!

[@Mecha04]

Some people say he is still struggling with that pack to this day

[@limmaanka]

My god! Miniature backpack! A nightmare to take out a pair of socks 😆🤣

[@Bruce6001]

30 minutes later.... found them

[@wolfy9479]

Wish we had 22 minutes to pack up. 5 minutes was the most I've ever had to tear down everything, pack up, and form up...

[@tamgorden8791]

ya and that is just on the basic training course

[@gregorydunn3860]

What is this “time to pack up” you speak of?… You forgot to adjust for daylight savings ;)

[@Liam-ly8rv]

I can't help but watch this. Its like a time warp. Not back a decade or two but like 60 or 70 years. A plate and cup, WTF.

[@sgtg4600]

My wife carries more than that in her handbag. eh!

[@3101010]

she likely doesn't take two hours to load it either.

[@chrismurphy8026]

I would highly recommend you field strip the IMP’s before you pack them.

[@obnoxiouspriest]

I'm halfway through the (Canada) driest video ever. MND couldn't even spring for a mic in the room with our faithful demonstrator. No, you'll do it all in silence, and under our one electric light-bulb. We have to pay by the word on voice-over so let's keep it tight.

[@Murderface666]

He must be admin to pack a plate...

[@sp10sn]

yuKeepFcknWitMEEEE Hah. I had to watch the video as I thought you meant they had him pack his armor plates. Would never have even occurred to me that he was bringing flatware :D

[@DementedDaveH]

It's bone china.

[@seanmitchell7023]

I watched all the way just to watch that poor lad struggle knowing he was being filmed and couldn't mess it up 😂

[@hikerjim8803]

this takes me way back. I miss my old ruck

[@Whisky_Four-Three]

it was like watching a MMA bout

[@mohammadimrankhan4523]

22 minutes of struggle.

[@Akaoushi]

Never packed the Melmac cup and plate. Never used the waist belt either.

[@diederikvl70]

The war is over when he is ready packing lol

[@frankweidig1106]

Donald Trump ist the new President of the USA

[@diederikvl70]

so?

[@mathieu4432]

who's f#$ked now

[@notBrie]

its how canada "fought" a lot of wars, stall shit till the war's over.

[@KorribansFallen]

diederik vl: There was no "Sense of Urgency" in packing. In a real time situation when time is short - you can pack it in 2 minutes - i know that for a fact - had it screamed during training - "PACK FASTER"!! LOL By the Training NCOs. 😂😂

[@GeorgePooshoes]

I remember assembling the 82 pattern rucksack the day before leaving for CFB Meaford on the parade square of the John Weir Foote armories in Hamilton in the summer of 04.

[@LynnJynh9315]

A Canadian... politely preparing for war.

[@lankey6969]

Worst part is, he probably wasn't going anywhere and had to just unpack all his gear once he got home.

[@blingbling574]

Kit bag on the kit truck is where most of that stuff goes. Ruck is for ammo, water and bare essentials. You won't be sleeping beauty till you feel safe. He's packing for a camping trip, not combat.

[@redriverscout4404]

Canada is not Florida. You leave stuff like your sleeping bag behind and the enemy just has to wait 24 hours and then loot the human popsicles. Unlike in the US our kit is not designed primarily for invading other countries either. Like most European armies a lot of our gear is designed to fight a defensive action on your own turf.

[@redriverscout4404]

Also what you describe (ammo, water and bare essentials) is what your LBE is for not your ruck. The original manuals for the 82 pattern stuff is online and it was never intended that you would be fighting with a ruck on your back.

[@blingbling574]

Red River Scout I had to stay up fully dressed with minor naps 72hrs during winter conditions. That's just training, during offensive operations I'm sure I would been alert the entire time.

[@kamiskenaw4340]

They have combat shoulder straps for combat.

[@tamgorden8791]

not even that

[@b0mazor]

Holy fabrics and linen. As an ultralight backpacker you'd think he's taking all that to offer the local mosque as prayer mats. No way I got space for that in my pack; wheres the food go?

[@CigaretteTheChannel]

the food went in the top pouches of the pack

[@adamberkmortel1728]

Thanks for the help

[@rluxon]

Last time I seen that much new kit together was when my Lt. Walked out of supply. Lol

[@matchesman5019]

Nice info, may I suggest transparent garbage bags….

[@daballz89]

"In here you'll be carrying things you want to keep dry such as underwear, socks, insulated clothing, extra pants, jacket, and sweater..." No you won't. If it doesn't all fit in your valise, you won't be carrying it. The pack belongs to the platoon and you'll be carrying ammo, rats, and other stuff the Pl 2IC tells you carry. Extra pants, lol... ya right, you don't carry anything "extra."

[@lib556]

...and once the radio is in the inner pocket - not much room for anything else.

[@Michael-wc8xl]

@@lib556 I still had to try to fit a 25 set in mine....along with bullets and any(every)thing else the Platoon needed

[@jamesgammon5716]

Had a hard time getting that sleep system on that ruck

[@johngalt969]

Btw - if you load a bin liner into your ruck then load the ruck there's a higher chance you'll rip and pierce the bin liner than if you preload it and slot it in.

[@canarbn3com]

It is like watching a clown car only in reverse and with kit.

[@semperfi-1918]

🤣

[@RECOIL64]

this reminded me of how much I hated trying to gear up in the Army. I use an alice pack which i have modified after getting out of the army but a lot of the gear issued never packed well.There are much better solutions civilian made which has made the pack awesome, hopefully the military has helped the soldier with new lighter tech, remember he doesn't have his weapons or ammo.

[@alphabears6342]

Sorry, today the have the Mollee rucksack. Now you can add even more crap to the outside of the bag.

[@semperfi-1918]

I love the large alice packs... go bigger i go bust and wont be able to move as i was always a pack rat. I always got the list plus some in those things.... i still use one to this day being out its my bugout/ camping bag.

[@crossfox1991]

Today the pack is 15lb empty and holds more so they pack more into it. It's more comfortable but most people pack it heavier then they normally would

[@RealBoiJare]

Or communication devices

[@tassiebushcraft3965]

Lucky soldiers never have to pack up and leave in a hurry lol

[@brynleybodinham5703]

that looked like hard work i would be exhausted just packing

[@easygroove]

is this backpack from the 50´s ? - Really, A Plate ?! ROFL

[@hecller22]

Every unit, every army has her own system of backpacks and packing issued stuff.

[@vinni40k]

Wow, they really just let a guy with a uniform from the 2010's struggle stuffing gear from the 90's in a pack from the 70's and call it a 'training video', huh?

[@gulfrelay2249]

83 pattern ruck? is so,it's older than he is.

[@kamiskenaw4340]

Everyone there is an a attachment they replace the shoulder straps with(the combat attachment comes with shoulder straps and pouches for ammunition and grenades) the combat attachment.

[@aaronmcintosh2903]

He didn't add the steel bowl at the end of the valise we used for shaving in the field.

[@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse]

*OMG! YOU’RE SO CAMMO I THOUGHT THE THUMBNAIL WAS A PIECE OF BROCCOLI!* 😂💀

[@andrecharlebois705]

the valise straps are not too short; they were designed to secure just the valise; not the valise and the thermarest pad. Back in the day, the black betty mattress was packed to a square and stowed in the bottom of the valise. This left plenty of strap to secure the valise.

[@aaronmcintosh2903]

....and you kneel on the valise when loading it on the ruck...it makes it much easier

[@altorhys]

Good. Now do this in a bug out!

[@bjornlukas4936]

This kind of packing when you are under attack ......😂

[@BushcraftQuebec]

You will have to leave some kit behind if everything is to fit tightly and have to leave fast

[@robinloxley205]

Individual items should be packed in separate plastic bags, some items can even be vacuum packed. Having crossed many rivers, streams, lakes, lochs and even at sea, i can say 1000% better to waterproof individually. Carry spare plastic bags too. One trash bag is NOT enough. When it comes to water and sand they get in everywhere. The residual air in some bags can also add to buoyancy when doing a river crossing using poncho as raft. Although mostly military I have had to cross water at other times in a non military situation.

[@BushcraftQuebec]

More better

[@fyaworx]

That sleeping bag is fricken huge

[@DaveGIS123]

The Canadian sleeping bag will keep you as warm as toast, even in winter. pro tip: Back in the day, we used to carry woolen fire blankets with us in the field and lay them on top of our air mattresses to absorb condensation.

[@indianacitizen]

I really hope our northern cousins have gotten a better ruck in the last few years....

[@2712StatesvillAve]

That's that good part. We haven't lol.

[@Luca-zq3pi]

We haven't, I use this exact model, mine was made in 1987 and of today is still being used, just with a lot more duct than I thought possible because our units don't any ruck sacks period. No Gucci ones, no more shit ones like mine, they're all fucked.

[@kalebbrown6068]

Still got my 82, I don’t really want the new one lol

[@johngalt969]

Trust a fucking leaf to have it in Frog.

[@Bluesky_skyblue]

that was painful to watch

[@duffbeer989]

Fucking flashbacks. But we never got half the new gear and we had to buy our own rhino liners

[@josephcornejo2288]

Cool

[@ericbelrose1984]

Does anyone know of videos for the new rucksack pattern. I believe the sleeping bag stuff goes in the bottom. I'm wondering the ideal set-up for balance and comfort!

[@crossfox1991]

Incase you haven't tryed yet if you pack the sleeping bag without the new compression sack I find it actually takes up less space and is that little bit lighter

[@anonymousperson4363]

I highly recommend the tarp not be put in with the sleeping bag. If it's raining, your sleeping bag gets wet when you have to open the compression bag to get it.

[@yomomgay9195]

By the time he gets his gear ready Jesus will already have raptured people.

[@supervivet911]

I see the ppl designing rucks for Can army are as sadistic as all other ruck designers...Why are the straps ALWAYS too short?

[@alphabears6342]

I can guarantee that this cheap trash bag is not going to keep the gear dry. They should use either a heavy duty 3 mil white garden bag. It’s though, will keep the gear dried and it’s easier to find stuff at night with a red light. Try to find your stuff at night in a black trash bag.

[@lampiaries86]

if you push harder it will stay!

[@lib556]

Tip #1- ditch the 82 pat POS ruck and get something decent. Don't take a bunch of unneeded crap like melmac plate and cup. There should be a canteen cup at bottom of canteen. No need for second shirt or trousers. Socks good, less underwear. Long johns not needed if warm enviro. Unless going to the arctic, ditch the hood and one of the sleeping bags. I see he had a fleece toque - wear that to bed. The early 90s Canadian attempt at the poncho liner was crap: too heavy and bulky. I swear that thing was essentially an old wool blanket sewn into left over rain suit nylon. Rubbish. The better CADPAT one didn't come out for a while so do like we all did - buy US Army poncho liner at their PX, used at surplus store or order via a catalogue. Speaking of which, where is this OCdt sleeping? I don't see any string etc for making a shelter so I assume he'll be in a mod tent with his buddies. In that case, no need for a shelter half or even the bivvy bag - those are for real soldiers. For that matter, he doesn't even need a poncho liner. Ablution kit is unnecessarily bulky. Don't use full-size towel - not going to lay on the beach. The hand towel is sufficient. The horrendously heavy and bulky angle head flashlight? You kidding me? The narrator makes an error when he says "you put the air mattress in the 'stuff sack' with the sleeping bag". He must have been reading from an old script from when we still used the black 'rubber lady' inflatable air mattress. It's inefficient to stuff the thermarest in the valise. He seems smart enough to pack the valise in reverse order - you don't want to have to haul out the sleeping bag to get at shelter making stuff - especially in the rain. The valise needs to be cinched tighter. Compress with knee and cinch the string progressively - like lacing a boot. The opposite D rings should touch each other. Admittedly hard to do with so much extra crap like the outer sleeping bag etc. The end drawstring needs to be cinched tighter so that the white label isn't visible. The sliding tensioners on the drawstrings are notorious for loosening. Once tightened, tie a quick release slip knot in the string which prevents loosening. The valise straps on the ruck are backwards. The running end should be brought up from the bottom and fed into the buckle at the top. This way, straps can be cinched by pulling them down, toward the user. Easier to strap thermarest on outside of valise instead of between it and the frame. Note the thermarest cover has a row of 'anchor points' like molle straps. Best to pass cargo straps through the loops to prevent thermarest suddenly popping out of the side or shifting position. Many find it easier to secure thermarest under the top flap or securing it longitudinally on outside of main bag via extra straps or bungies. Rations. Must be stripped of unwanted items or those not needed. This will save half the bulk and weight. The OCdt packer was smart enough in the vid to pierce the bag and force the air out of one of the meals that was being stubborn. Stripped rats then can go in the outer pouches.

[@romeo6696]

Then snap the buckle from over packing the ruck and spend a day trying to get a new pack and putting it together again. Only to be given an even worse pack from supply that is sure to fail even quicker. I don't see the crate of ammo and jerry can they hand you and say put this in your ruck after it's full in this vid. Now picture yourself doing this -50 in a snow drift.

[@dickhurtz1862]

Did you ever look at a video and ask wtf?

[@TheInteligenceOvWar]

I'd like to say that he shouldn't be packing his underwear and socks first. He should be packing the stuff he is not gonna use as much to the bottom, to the stuff he is gonna use the most on top. This way, when he changes his cloths daily. It will be much more simple.

[@MikesFitnessGoals]

This vid needs R. Lee Ermy from FMJ

[@BushcraftQuebec]

pretty simple kit here but i strap a woodstove canvas tent and food on one pack to pass urban area or simply traveling with 1 kit with my hand free thanks fpr sharing

[@darrenspohn8376]

fortunately this is not carried on day to day patrol missions.

[@jeh966]

Sir i lost my pack sir

[@phildrolet2974]

Never used the 82; I had the misfortune of using the 64

[@crabtrap]

is this K.I.T from Night Ryder?

[@jamesmadison7551]

we got a all weather bag, for our, they using a trash bag, works just as same.

[@Whisky_Four-Three]

how much fun would that be with cold wet muddy hands.

[@sgtg4600]

Please tell me they issue better kit than that to the troops? Trash bags as a ruck liner! Thought we had moved on from that?

[@redriverscout4404]

It actually is not a bad idea. It is cheaper and do you really need a custom made liner? I mean it is not a high end camping trip. Plus one cool trick with using plastic bags (I have seen it demonstrated with an ALICE pack) is you can use them for buoyancy so your ruck will actually float if you need to cross a river. Every bag liner I have seen would be kind of useless for that. That being said if you really want a ruck with a bag liner there is a company that makes a 64 pattern ruck that has a bag liner.

[@tamgorden8791]

we had ruck liners sized small medium and large NO garbage bags

[@berner]

I had a garbage bag in my ruck during reserve BMQ at FYA and we used the same ruck in this video. I was 7TOR out of MPA. Sadly I only made it as far as the last 2 weekends of my BMQ-L before my knee gave out on me. 130Bty, hua! Mind you I did get to have the Meaford experience before my hopeful career in the forces went down the shitter. But yeah, I don't see the problem with using a garbage bag as a liner to be honest. Maybe I'm old fashion in saying this but if it works, it works and I'll use it. (or it could just be that I'm too lazy to make the trip up to the Dennison stores to get one, if they even give them out there. No idea. lol)

[@jaredpeabody894]

Still use this Ruck to this day and yep still rocking the garbage bags.

[@crossfox1991]

@@tamgorden8791 I have never seen anyone with an issued liner in my 10 years

[@ragequitify]

as a new recruit this helps out a lot

[@tamgorden8791]

ya if you failed and being recoursed

[@floydvaughn836]

Wait up; where's the beer?

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

Moose-burger MRE

[@iceman7084]

Watching this makes me cringe with disappointment and despair.

[@kamiskenaw4340]

Jesus are you dumb.

[@sarvejitsingh5805]

.. ONE OF THE BEST ON y,tube,.top 3 definentley.,well explained ,shown in land scape,.puts other video,s to shame..THANKS AGEINE,minestrey,O,D.siemion

[@tamgorden8791]

this is 1 of the best? where the hell have you learned your rucksack packing skills? who taught you about packing rucksacks, some girl guide? this is the worst instruction video going

[@Apbt-rv7zw]

Is it the worst really? It was good, purposeful and relevant.

[@lampiaries86]

cheap cheap gear, this is my video of the day. made my day as well

[@MountainManKm]

You are packing a lot more then you need.

[@fucker1714]

A CIC officer showing me how to do literally anything...pass

[@Christopherjamesmurphy21]

No god damn wonder all the plastic hardware is broken on the surplus bags lol.

[@steffenk.-outdoorundgedons4094]

Hi, thank you for the Video. Do you know how much all the stuff weigths ? regards Steffen

[@PartyChicken407]

Around 40-50lbs. This is not a normal load though... this is more of a camping load than a combat load.

[@kennethquesenberry2610]

No more messtins?

[@jamesgammon5716]

First time packing a ruck eh? Lol

[@_yamcha]

No toilet paper?

[@Stellar12316]

Canada is still using a ruck from 1982

[@bagelsecelle9308]

21:00 holy shit man, just sit on it

[@torontomercenary]

Why not just put the canteen pouch on his web belt?

[@CaspianWint-dn6nj]

He is an Army Cadet, not regular or reserve, hence the ridiculous shit he is packing

[@sappersteve1443]

+Todd McPherson not sure that he is;don't Canadian Army Cadets wear O.G. uniforms? That sure is a lot of excess baggage though!

[@mymicks21]

+sapper steve He is Cadet Instructor Cadre, not a cadet. he is technically a member of the CF but all they do is just supervise cadets.

[@sappersteve1443]

I notice he has "cc" on his rank slide and he has a plate,mug,and eating irons,but regular troops don't get issued with them anymore,so you could be right?

[@mymicks21]

sapper steve it's CIC. I think it's just civvie stuff

[@abrahamrasmussen2367]

+Todd McPherson That couldn't be a cadet because cadets dont have digital uniform. (I know about what I'm talking because I'm one). I think its a CIC

[@mikedavis5745]

God damned ruck sack....

[@dustanrawley5107]

CIC that's why he's packing weird shit. Why do they even get commissioned.

[@nilloc93]

my only question, why the fuck is his bugnet going in the "keep dry" part of the ruck?

[@nocoolname113]

+nilloc93 because who wants a soggy bugnet XD

[@nilloc93]

nocoolname113 its a mesh net, it dries out it 2 minutes, that space could be used for socks, cell phones, and other important to keep dry things.

[@stormtrooperliam]

Cell phone?

[@nilloc93]

heavymetalcowboy originalman yeah? you get cell signal almost everywhere, also really useful if your vehicle doesn't have a radio so you can text the packet commander

[@jasonkwok3082]

no ammo in the pack. is it the current Canadian backpack?

[@c.k.8114]

MP Kelly

[@redriverscout4404]

Most of your ammo would be keep on the LBE and in your field jacket and trousers. According to official manuals online you would not be fighting with your ruck and would not need if for engagements lasting less then 24hrs. Most fire fights would usually be over long before that point.

[@ljt47exploring64]

Where's his webing pouches mess tins cooker and so on

[@johngalt969]

Two pair of underwear? No wonder leaf's smell funny.

[@patlovestayalive1973]

Be very carefull you guy's in the middle east. God speed, be well, be tought, be the great Canadian.

[@geographyinaction7814]

You're all a bunch of muppets. He's packing his full kit so as to move to a different base of operations NOT packing for an op...can't you all figure that out?

[@ryanbrushett2599]

Mike Maslen I imagine some people that are an awful lot more intelligent and qualified than a Mr. Mike Maslen designed the way that rucksacks are packed and the contents necessary

[@tamgorden8791]

ya 1st time he started putting his crap into the ruck, I knew this. but if they are teaching persons on how to pack a completed pack, this is far from what it is to be

[@johnwalsh4948]

What...No kitchen sink? Way too much stuff and excess weight.

[@stephaneleblanc8868]

Poor guy CIC not the best for this demo but a good old grunt would have been better, GO ARMY !!!

[@ZackyChann]

Lol, yea make sure you dont leave any room for pers ammo, ammo for section and platoon weapons (1 belt c9 per man and .5 belt c6 per man) water, food, NVGs, pyro, or a radio. Noob.

[@Monkesmell91]

10:40 did he just shove a *PLATE.* into his bag?

[@jackgray1982]

Anyone know what ruck this is it is different from my alice

[@MARTINI0897]

overpacked and so much unnecessary stuff. oh god want to see him walking a few miles.

[@carlinmeatwaad2056]

bet you do

[@justpullguard]

I used this video as a reference for when I went to the field the first time... holy fuck did I learn quick